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Date: 19 Jan 2007 04:41:45
From:
Subject: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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I have now managed to put some pictures and a couple of videos together
to demonstrate this fantastic drill. Go to...
http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/beginner-golf-lesson.html
Don't just try the drill, let me know how you got on with it.
Awrabest
S.MacD.
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Date: 25 Jan 2007 05:40:59
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 25, 1:45 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> If you read a page on my site and come back with a question about its
> topic, I will be glad to answer all of your
> questions about my competence.
>
> Your, "I've visited your site and I want to know if your qualified",
> attitude is a little too vague for me to answer.
Vague? I asked you if you were a PGA teaching pro,
and if you had passed the PAT and you said yes, so I asked
for some verification. What is vague about that?
It appears to me now that you either didn't understand my question,
or else lied.
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Date: 24 Jan 2007 23:45:28
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Hi Bill,
If you read a page on my site and come back with a question about its
topic, I will be glad to answer all of your
questions about my competence.
Your, "I've visited your site and I want to know if your qualified",
attitude is a little too vague for me to answer.
If you feel that my material is so ground breaking that you want to
know my entire resume then put out a
question with some substance and I may even start to like you.
You never know who you are talking to and in any case...
IT'S NICE TO BE NICE!
Awrabest
S.MacD.
On 22 Jan., 14:26, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 9:37 am, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> > > Birdie Bill wrote:
> > > > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>
> > > > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>
> > > > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
>
> > >YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
>
> > >http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html>
> > > You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> > > of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> > > my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> > > rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
> >Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> > of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> > via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> > "private members" aren't you?
>
> > Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> > fact on their web pages.Here are some examples of what I am looking for:
>
> http://camerondoan.com/news.htm#Profilehttp://camerondoan.com/swings.htmhttp://members.cruzio.com/~scgolf/index.htmhttp://www.progolflesson.com/index.html
>
> You claim to be a teaching pro. It is possible that you
> are. I'd just like to see some evidence of your
> competence.
>
> If you think that is being "unfriendly",
> I forgive you, too.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -- Zitierten Text anzeigen -
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Date: 26 Jan 2007 22:36:13
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On 24 Jan 2007 23:45:28 -0800, pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>If you feel that my material is so ground breaking that you want to
>know my entire resume then put out a
>question with some substance and I may even start to like you.
I ventured over to your Private Members page and noted how you listed
several authorized instructors of The Golfing Machine and Homer Kelley
himself as professionals you had personal encounters with. When did
you meet with Homer?
Congratulations on jumping on TGM bandwagon and trying to make a few
bucks off it which seems to be a growing trend on the web these days.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 22 Jan 2007 05:26:56
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 21, 9:37 am, "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>
> > Birdie Bill wrote:
> > > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>
> > > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>
> > > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
>
> >YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
>
> >http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html>
> > You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> > of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> > my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> > rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
>Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> "private members" aren't you?
>
> Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> fact on their web pages.
Here are some examples of what I am looking for:
http://camerondoan.com/news.htm#Profile
http://camerondoan.com/swings.htm
http://members.cruzio.com/~scgolf/index.htm
http://www.progolflesson.com/index.html
You claim to be a teaching pro. It is possible that you
are. I'd just like to see some evidence of your
competence.
If you think that is being "unfriendly",
I forgive you, too.
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Date: 22 Jan 2007 05:07:37
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 21, 1:41 pm, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
> criticism.
>
> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
I saw this reference to a "private members page":
>I just know I won't be popular with my private students for giving
>this free video golf lesson. They have paid so much to get me to
>explain and demonstrate this drill to them.
>They will not believe that it is now available for free, zilch, nichts.
>Well it is and it isn't. For those of you who have read the page
>'beginner golf lesson', you will already have the basics for this drill.
>You will also be well aware that this drill does have a certain magic.
>However, for some reason you are still not getting the fantastic
>results, which are guaranteed from the drill.
>Well that's not entirely true, some of you are and the best of luck
>to you. That's what I wanted you to achieve. For those who are not,
>I have devised my 'private member page' to give a little extra private
>assistance in achieving the same results.
>
> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
> you.
How was I not friendly? I'm just asking questions that for some
reason you don't like answering.
>
> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
Well, yes, look at the post from RonrutMR2
>
> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
>
> Awrabest
>
> S.MacD.
>
> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
> are you?
>
> It would explain it for me.
>
> In any event, I forgive you.
Forgive me for what?
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 19:17:05
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 21, 8:53 pm, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2007 18:45:46 -0800, "Birdie Bill"
>
> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not a net cop, I'm just looking for straight answers.
>This might help you, Bill. At the bottom of his web site it gives a
> contact email address of chopr...@yahoo.de
>
> Put the urlwww.yahoo.dein your browser.
I asked him if he was a PGA pro, and if he had passed the PAT, he
said yes to both questions. I'm just looking for some verification.
If he lives in Germany, I think there is an equivalent professional
organization there. Would just like to know if he has any
credentials at all other than having an athletic daughter.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 18:45:46
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 21, 1:41 pm, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
> criticism.
>
> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
>
> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
> you.
>
> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
>
> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
>
> Awrabest
>
> S.MacD.
>
> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
> are you?
>
> It would explain it for me.
>
> In any event, I forgive you.
>
> Birdie Bill wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > > Birdie Bill wrote:
> > > > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>
> > > > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>
> > > > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
>
> > >YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
>
> > >http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
>
> > > You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> > > of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> > > my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> > > rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
>
> > Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> > of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> > via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> > "private members" aren't you?
>
> > Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> > fact on their web pages. Can I find you if I search on pga.com?
> > What city do you teach out of?
>
> > I couldn't get your video to play, either with IE or Firefox.
I take it by your response that you are not actually a PGA
teaching pro, even though you said you were before.
Or, which is it? Yes or no?
If yes, you are a PGA teaching pro, then what city do you
teach in, so I can try to look you up on pga.com.
I'm not a net cop, I'm just looking for straight answers.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 20:53:59
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On 21 Jan 2007 18:45:46 -0800, "Birdie Bill"
<bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>I'm not a net cop, I'm just looking for straight answers.
This might help you, Bill. At the bottom of his web site it gives a
contact email address of chopra48@yahoo.de
Put the url www.yahoo.de in your browser.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 17:26:13
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> glfnaz wrote:
> > "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> > news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction from
> >> a PGA accredited teaching pro.
> >
> > Geo Hubbard?
> >
>
> No.
L. Ron?
;^)
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 20:19:16
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On 21 Jan 2007 17:26:13 -0800, "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote:
>
>Bert Robbins wrote:
>> glfnaz wrote:
>> > "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
>> > news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction from
>> >> a PGA accredited teaching pro.
>> >
>> > Geo Hubbard?
>> >
>>
>> No.
>
>L. Ron?
>
>;^)
Yes. L. Ron Hibbard.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 22 Jan 2007 03:40:24
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On 21 Jan 2007 17:26:13 -0800, "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Bert Robbins wrote:
> >> glfnaz wrote:
> >> > "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> >> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction from
> >> >> a PGA accredited teaching pro.
> >> >
> >> > Geo Hubbard?
> >> >
> >>
> >> No.
> >
> >L. Ron?
> >
> >;^)
>
> Yes. L. Ron Hibbard.
LOL!
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 13:17:04
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Hello again head shot,
Send a short three second clip of your swing to me (a face-on shot).
Save it using windows movie maker if you can.
If you want to know more about me go to:
http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com
Awrabest
S.MacD.
P.S. My daughter, who has just turned 12, had 45 handicap at the start
of 2005 and now plays off 12 and she only works on the things I mention
on the site. You can read her story there.
Head Shot wrote:
> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> > I am already teaching for free on my website.
>
> Is there a certain level of knowlege that you expect your visitors to have?
> I have only been playing for a year; and though I am enthusiastic about
> golf and have fun when I play; I know that at the highest level I am
> struggling with consistancy. I am about a 30 handicap; though I have shot
> in the low 90's about 25% of the time; with the rest of the time being the
> high 90's to just around 100. I already did about 10 lessons with a PGA
> pro that is a scratch golfer; but I am wondering if I should go back to him
> or just try and work through my issues on my own using videos and the
> internet.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 16:22:31
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> Hello again head shot,
>
> Send a short three second clip of your swing to me (a face-on shot).
>
>
> Save it using windows movie maker if you can.
Of course it will have to be when the weather gets better. I think my
camera does 1 minute videos so I can do a few shots at the range.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 12:46:42
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Hi head shot,
read:
http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/inner-game-of-golf.html
and then:
http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/shivas-irons.html
which discusses finding your 'Chi' in golf
Hope these two sections help you somewhat.
Awrabest
S.MacD.
Head Shot wrote:
> Bert Robbins wrote:
> > If you are interested in teaching then you would take a more
> > informative tone and answer questions about your abilities to teach
> > and you motivation for your web site.
>
> I can tell you what I need to learn. When I go to play golf, I first go to
> the range. At the beginning of the range time; I am all over the place.
> Then I settle in and about 75% of my iron shots go where I pretty much want
> them to go; give or take Then I head off to play and my shots go where I
> want about 50% of the time. I want to learn how to shoot the shots the
> same consistantly. I was at the range a few weeks ago and this guy walks up
> to the range line and just starts hitting the ball exactly the same over and
> over again. I was shocked, because he was obese and had a really hard
> time even walking. That blew my theory that you need to be in great shape
> to play the game with any consistancy. If he can be consistant; why
> can't I? I do tial arts, swim, and hit the gym - why can't I get
> consistant like that out of shape guy did?
> .
>
> --
> ___________________________________________________________
> A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
> I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
> gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
> Jefferson
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 12:39:05
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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I am already teaching for free on my website. I do not have to answer
anyone's questions for free lessons. Thanks for the business advice
though.
There's no need to get nasty.
My motivation for my website is explained on the homepage if you had
even taken the bother to read it you traffic warden you.
Wake up, dry your eyes and get a life Bertie boy.
Bert Robbins wrote:
> You come across as a pompous ass.
>
> If you are interested in teaching then you would take a more informative
> tone and answer questions about your abilities to teach and you
> motivation for your web site.
>
> When I sell something I am a wealth of information and I have a smile on
> my face.
>
>
>
> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> > Dear Bert,
> >
> > you are definately a traffic warden.
> >
> > I have posted a few articles here and have spent quite a bit of time
> > doing so. I earn quite a lot from my full time job as coach and pro
> > shop owner and since I have loads of free time in the winter months, I
> > have recently put a free teaching website together.
> > If someday I manage to get a little extra income from it in the future
> > I will be delighted. Put it this way if I earn $10,000 from it by
> > September, I would have averaged about 50c earnings per hours work.
> >
> > Your comments have not earned the right to be answered by me but I have
> > done so in this case. Only because its still off season for me.
> >
> >
> > Bert Robbins wrote:
> >> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> >>> Dear Bill,
> >>>
> >>> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
> >>> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
> >>> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
> >>> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
> >>> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
> >>> criticism.
> >>>
> >>> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
> >>> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
> >>> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
> >>> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
> >>>
> >>> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
> >>> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
> >>> you.
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
> >>>
> >>> Awrabest
> >>>
> >>> S.MacD.
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
> >>> are you?
> >>>
> >>> It would explain it for me.
> >>>
> >>> In any event, I forgive you.
> >> Are you a PGA member instructor?
> >>
> >> Are you just trying to make some money off of the web?
> >>
> >> You are not making any friends with your attitude.
> >
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 19:57:12
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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But, you have no credentials nor certifications that would allow people
to objectively judge your abilities and capabilities.
I hold an A license, C license and D license and I also was an S/L-I and
an AFF-I. These licenses and certifications were awarded and earned from
a naitonal organization and were recognized by an international
organization. I made money while holding the certifications. People knew
that when they were paying me that I actually knew the subject area and
that I was qualified to be teaching.
As others have noted this is a non-commercial USENET newsgroup. The
charter specifically prohibits advertising or soliciting by commercial
interests. If you are selling something I would suggest that you place
your advertisements in rec.sport.golf.forsale.
I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction
from a PGA accredited teaching pro.
pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> I am already teaching for free on my website. I do not have to answer
> anyone's questions for free lessons. Thanks for the business advice
> though.
>
> There's no need to get nasty.
>
> My motivation for my website is explained on the homepage if you had
> even taken the bother to read it you traffic warden you.
>
> Wake up, dry your eyes and get a life Bertie boy.
>
>
> Bert Robbins wrote:
>> You come across as a pompous ass.
>>
>> If you are interested in teaching then you would take a more informative
>> tone and answer questions about your abilities to teach and you
>> motivation for your web site.
>>
>> When I sell something I am a wealth of information and I have a smile on
>> my face.
>>
>>
>>
>> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>>> Dear Bert,
>>>
>>> you are definately a traffic warden.
>>>
>>> I have posted a few articles here and have spent quite a bit of time
>>> doing so. I earn quite a lot from my full time job as coach and pro
>>> shop owner and since I have loads of free time in the winter months, I
>>> have recently put a free teaching website together.
>>> If someday I manage to get a little extra income from it in the future
>>> I will be delighted. Put it this way if I earn $10,000 from it by
>>> September, I would have averaged about 50c earnings per hours work.
>>>
>>> Your comments have not earned the right to be answered by me but I have
>>> done so in this case. Only because its still off season for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bert Robbins wrote:
>>>> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>>>>> Dear Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
>>>>> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
>>>>> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
>>>>> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
>>>>> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
>>>>> criticism.
>>>>>
>>>>> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
>>>>> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
>>>>> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
>>>>> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
>>>>> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
>>>>>
>>>>> Awrabest
>>>>>
>>>>> S.MacD.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
>>>>> are you?
>>>>>
>>>>> It would explain it for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any event, I forgive you.
>>>> Are you a PGA member instructor?
>>>>
>>>> Are you just trying to make some money off of the web?
>>>>
>>>> You are not making any friends with your attitude.
>
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 18:22:52
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction from
> a PGA accredited teaching pro.
Geo Hubbard?
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 20:23:40
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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glfnaz wrote:
> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction from
>> a PGA accredited teaching pro.
>
> Geo Hubbard?
>
No.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 18:28:46
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:2qidnY4js8-BjynYnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@comcast.com...
> glfnaz wrote:
>> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
>> news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction
>>> from a PGA accredited teaching pro.
>>
>> Geo Hubbard?
>
> No.
>
I was kidding.
BTW--I agree with you 101%.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 20:29:19
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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glfnaz wrote:
> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
> news:2qidnY4js8-BjynYnZ2dnUVZ_qPinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> glfnaz wrote:
>>> "Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lpSdnfdaYtp1linYnZ2dnUVZ_tunnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction
>>>> from a PGA accredited teaching pro.
>>> Geo Hubbard?
>> No.
>>
> I was kidding.
> BTW--I agree with you 101%.
>
I misread your question. I read Geo. Hibbard :)
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 20:00:43
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> I have no interest in viewing your website I receive golf instruction
> from a PGA accredited teaching pro.
Is that what I should do - just get PGA instruction now and then and let
them help me fix the things that are keeping me from being consistant?
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 15:45:09
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> I am already teaching for free on my website.
Is there a certain level of knowlege that you expect your visitors to have?
I have only been playing for a year; and though I am enthusiastic about
golf and have fun when I play; I know that at the highest level I am
struggling with consistancy. I am about a 30 handicap; though I have shot
in the low 90's about 25% of the time; with the rest of the time being the
high 90's to just around 100. I already did about 10 lessons with a PGA
pro that is a scratch golfer; but I am wondering if I should go back to him
or just try and work through my issues on my own using videos and the
internet.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 21:14:35
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Head Shot wrote:
> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> > I am already teaching for free on my website.
>
> Is there a certain level of knowlege that you expect your visitors to have?
> I have only been playing for a year; and though I am enthusiastic about
> golf and have fun when I play; I know that at the highest level I am
> struggling with consistancy. I am about a 30 handicap; though I have shot
> in the low 90's about 25% of the time; with the rest of the time being the
> high 90's to just around 100. I already did about 10 lessons with a PGA
> pro that is a scratch golfer; but I am wondering if I should go back to him
> or just try and work through my issues on my own using videos and the
> internet.
If this is true, you have had all the instruction you will ever need; unless you
get to the PGA Tour level maybe. Go out and enjoy your game for what it is.
Leave the snake oil to the rubes.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 12:16:49
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Dear Bert,
you are definately a traffic warden.
I have posted a few articles here and have spent quite a bit of time
doing so. I earn quite a lot from my full time job as coach and pro
shop owner and since I have loads of free time in the winter months, I
have recently put a free teaching website together.
If someday I manage to get a little extra income from it in the future
I will be delighted. Put it this way if I earn $10,000 from it by
September, I would have averaged about 50c earnings per hours work.
Your comments have not earned the right to be answered by me but I have
done so in this case. Only because its still off season for me.
Bert Robbins wrote:
> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> > Dear Bill,
> >
> > At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
> > setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
> > more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
> > justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
> > you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
> > criticism.
> >
> > So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
> > anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
> > compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
> > club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
> >
> > As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
> > if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
> > you.
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
> >
> > Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
> >
> > Awrabest
> >
> > S.MacD.
> >
> > P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
> > are you?
> >
> > It would explain it for me.
> >
> > In any event, I forgive you.
>
> Are you a PGA member instructor?
>
> Are you just trying to make some money off of the web?
>
> You are not making any friends with your attitude.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 23:55:29
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On 21 Jan 2007 12:16:49 -0800, pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>Dear Bert,
>
>you are definately a traffic warden.
>
>I have posted a few articles here and have spent quite a bit of time
>doing so. I earn quite a lot from my full time job as coach and pro
>shop owner and since I have loads of free time in the winter months, I
>have recently put a free teaching website together.
>If someday I manage to get a little extra income from it in the future
>I will be delighted. Put it this way if I earn $10,000 from it by
>September, I would have averaged about 50c earnings per hours work.
>
>Your comments have not earned the right to be answered by me but I have
>done so in this case. Only because its still off season for me.
If you earn $1 from your website it's spam to advertise it here. Go
away.
--
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 15:31:15
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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You come across as a pompous ass.
If you are interested in teaching then you would take a more informative
tone and answer questions about your abilities to teach and you
motivation for your web site.
When I sell something I am a wealth of information and I have a smile on
my face.
pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> Dear Bert,
>
> you are definately a traffic warden.
>
> I have posted a few articles here and have spent quite a bit of time
> doing so. I earn quite a lot from my full time job as coach and pro
> shop owner and since I have loads of free time in the winter months, I
> have recently put a free teaching website together.
> If someday I manage to get a little extra income from it in the future
> I will be delighted. Put it this way if I earn $10,000 from it by
> September, I would have averaged about 50c earnings per hours work.
>
> Your comments have not earned the right to be answered by me but I have
> done so in this case. Only because its still off season for me.
>
>
> Bert Robbins wrote:
>> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
>>> Dear Bill,
>>>
>>> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
>>> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
>>> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
>>> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
>>> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
>>> criticism.
>>>
>>> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
>>> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
>>> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
>>> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
>>>
>>> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
>>> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
>>> you.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
>>>
>>> Awrabest
>>>
>>> S.MacD.
>>>
>>> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
>>> are you?
>>>
>>> It would explain it for me.
>>>
>>> In any event, I forgive you.
>> Are you a PGA member instructor?
>>
>> Are you just trying to make some money off of the web?
>>
>> You are not making any friends with your attitude.
>
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 15:38:43
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> If you are interested in teaching then you would take a more
> informative tone and answer questions about your abilities to teach
> and you motivation for your web site.
I can tell you what I need to learn. When I go to play golf, I first go to
the range. At the beginning of the range time; I am all over the place.
Then I settle in and about 75% of my iron shots go where I pretty much want
them to go; give or take Then I head off to play and my shots go where I
want about 50% of the time. I want to learn how to shoot the shots the
same consistantly. I was at the range a few weeks ago and this guy walks up
to the range line and just starts hitting the ball exactly the same over and
over again. I was shocked, because he was obese and had a really hard
time even walking. That blew my theory that you need to be in great shape
to play the game with any consistancy. If he can be consistant; why
can't I? I do tial arts, swim, and hit the gym - why can't I get
consistant like that out of shape guy did?
.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 11:41:22
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Dear Bill,
At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
criticism.
So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
you.
Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
Awrabest
S.MacD.
P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
are you?
It would explain it for me.
In any event, I forgive you.
Birdie Bill wrote:
> On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > Birdie Bill wrote:
> > > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
> >
> > > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
> >
> > > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
> >
> >YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
> >
> > http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
> >
> > You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> > of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> > my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> > rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
>
> Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> "private members" aren't you?
>
> Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> fact on their web pages. Can I find you if I search on pga.com?
> What city do you teach out of?
>
> I couldn't get your video to play, either with IE or Firefox.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 14:48:07
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> At present I am offering over 60 pages of free stuff and soon will be
> setting up ONE page, 'a private member page', for anyone who would like
> more personal instruction. As this takes time and time is money, I feel
> justified, when the time comes to charge a small fee for this time. If
> you don't like or agree with the content, I do enjoy some constructive
> criticism.
>
> So in answer to your question, at present, I am not charging anyone
> anything. This page is entirely voluntary and I would hate to be
> compared to the, 'hit the ball 40yds further in just five minutes',
> club. Did you happen to see any hard sell on my site?
>
> As for the video, I'll look into how to make it easier to view. Maybe
> if you were a little fiendlier to me it would automatically open for
> you.
>
> Has anyone else experienced trouble opening it?
>
> Does anyone know how to accept the video senders friend request?
>
> Awrabest
>
> S.MacD.
>
> P.S. Bill, you're not a traffic warden or a law enforcer of some sort,
> are you?
>
> It would explain it for me.
>
> In any event, I forgive you.
Are you a PGA member instructor?
Are you just trying to make some money off of the web?
You are not making any friends with your attitude.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 12:30:36
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Remember the good old days when guys used to trade pornos?
Stay on your present course, and you'll be removed from the man club.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 07:58:56
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Birdie Bill wrote:
> On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> > Birdie Bill wrote:
> > > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
> >
> > > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
> >
> > > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
> >
> >YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
> >
> > http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
> >
> > You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> > of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> > my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> > rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
>
> Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> "private members" aren't you?
>
> Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> fact on their web pages. Can I find you if I search on pga.com?
> What city do you teach out of?
>
> I couldn't get your video to play, either with IE or Firefox.
Another clue: When I try to open the video by clicking on
the youtube logo, a window opens up and says:
This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make
sure you accept the sender's friend request.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 17:21:13
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On 21 Jan 2007 07:58:56 -0800, "Birdie Bill"
<bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>Birdie Bill wrote:
>Another clue: When I try to open the video by clicking on
>the youtube logo, a window opens up and says:
>
>This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make
>sure you accept the sender's friend request.
Gosh Bill. You don't think that this is all a spamming post from the
OP, and you have to pay to see it?
--
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 07:37:38
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
> Birdie Bill wrote:
> > Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>
> > - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>
> > - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
>
>YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
>
> http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
>
> You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
> of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
> my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
> rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
"private members" aren't you?
Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
fact on their web pages. Can I find you if I search on pga.com?
What city do you teach out of?
I couldn't get your video to play, either with IE or Firefox.
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 09:56:29
From: RonrutMR2
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Birdie Bill wrote:
>
> On Jan 21, 6:03 am, pmch...@online.de wrote:
>> Birdie Bill wrote:
>>> Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>>> - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>>> - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
>> YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
>>
>> http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
>>
>> You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
>> of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
>> my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
>> rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
>
> Nosey? You think it is nosey to want to know the credentials
> of someone trying to sell his services as a teacher
> via a webpage? You ARE charging people to become
> "private members" aren't you?
>
> Most PGA teaching pros are up front about mentioning that
> fact on their web pages. Can I find you if I search on pga.com?
> What city do you teach out of?
>
> I couldn't get your video to play, either with IE or Firefox.
>
"This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make
sure you accept the sender's friend request." is what I get when trying
to play them...
Ron
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Date: 21 Jan 2007 04:03:08
From:
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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Birdie Bill wrote:
> pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> > I have now managed to put some pictures and a couple of videos together
> > to demonstrate this fantastic drill.
>
> Some questions I had after looking over your website:
>
> - Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
>
> - Is there a video of your swing on the website?
YES, YES, and YES, a swing drill somewhere on the section:
http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/video-golf-lesson.html
You are quite a nosey chap. I love to answer questions on the content
of my site or any articles I post in forums but I don't like to go over
my life history. However as you may have read on the site, I have
rejuvenated my swing with the new stuff that I have recently adopted.
Awrabest
S.MacD.
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Date: 20 Jan 2007 08:12:42
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> I have now managed to put some pictures and a couple of videos together
> to demonstrate this fantastic drill.
Some questions I had after looking over your website:
- Are you a PGA pro? Have you passed the PAT?
- Is there a video of your swing on the website?
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Date: 19 Jan 2007 05:02:01
From: Redbeard
Subject: Re: pictures and video clips of the four finger grip drill!
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pmchugh@online.de wrote:
> I have now managed to put some pictures and a couple of videos together
> to demonstrate this fantastic drill. Go to...
>
> http://www.online-golf-lesson-and-more.com/beginner-golf-lesson.html
>
> Don't just try the drill, let me know how you got on with it.
>
> Awrabest
>
> S.MacD.
Thanks for the information! I will try it out when the sun comes up!!
Terry
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