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Date: 04 Mar 2007 16:11:23
From: Dirtclod
Subject: little more advice needed
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You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
made a world of difference.
This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
rotate my arms faster?
I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
Any suggestions would help.
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 08:16:08
From: D.L.
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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Take a few practice swings starting by holding the club
about 2 feet in front of the ball, then going from there
into your backswing. Continue taking 4 quick swings
without stopping - backswing, downswing, backswing,
downswing, backswing, downswing, backswing,
downswing. This drill will get you into a better swing plane.
D.L.
"Dirtclod" <beubanks@HOT.rr.com > wrote in message
news:1173053482.997038.81270@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
> and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
> ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
> almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
> made a world of difference.
>
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
>
> I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
> and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
>
> Any suggestions would help.
>
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Date: 05 Mar 2007 17:14:22
From: water
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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I would suggest to consider what the right-elbow is doing. I'm not saying
obsess about it as some people do. But it is a point worth looking at that
can greatly affect your swing path.
Hogan liked to keep that elbow very close causing his classic flat swing.
I'm not saying go that far. But its all probably worth getting further
clarification from your swing coach/pro.
Just a thought imho
-water
"Dirtclod" <beubanks@HOT.rr.com > wrote in message
news:1173053482.997038.81270@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
> and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
> ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
> almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
> made a world of difference.
>
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
>
> I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
> and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
>
> Any suggestions would help.
>
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 23:37:19
From: Zuke
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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On Sun, 4 2007, Dirtclod wrote:
> You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
> and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
> ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
> almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
> made a world of difference.
>
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
>
> I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
> and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
>
> Any suggestions would help.
Swing at the second baseman, not the shortstop.
>
>
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Date: 05 Mar 2007 20:04:17
From: Rog
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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"Zuke" <me@privacy.net > wrote in message
news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0703042336500.8074@ucfilespace.uc.edu...
> On Sun, 4 2007, Dirtclod wrote:
> Swing at the second baseman, not the shortstop.
>
Could you make that a little more international??
Rog
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Date: 05 Mar 2007 16:35:45
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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On Mon, 5 2007 20:04:17 -0000, "Rog" <rog@repairman.com > wrote:
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>"Zuke" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0703042336500.8074@ucfilespace.uc.edu...
>> On Sun, 4 2007, Dirtclod wrote:
>
>> Swing at the second baseman, not the shortstop.
>>
>
>Could you make that a little more international??
>Rog
>
Swing at the mid-off and not the mid-on?
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 06 Mar 2007 20:07:59
From: Rog
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 5 2007 20:04:17 -0000, "Rog" <rog@repairman.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Zuke" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>>news:Pine.OSX.4.64.0703042336500.8074@ucfilespace.uc.edu...
>>> On Sun, 4 2007, Dirtclod wrote:
>>
>>> Swing at the second baseman, not the shortstop.
>>>
>>
>>Could you make that a little more international??
>>Rog
>>
>
> Swing at the mid-off and not the mid-on?
> --
>
> jvdp
> RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
:)
Rog
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 20:05:43
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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Dirtclod wrote:
> You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
> and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
> ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
> almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
> made a world of difference.
>
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
>
> I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
> and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
>
> Any suggestions would help.
>
Same one as before--see your instructor. There are drills he can give
you to work on curing that outside to in tendency. You're fortunate in
that A) you were wise in getting lessons right away, B) you were willing
to listen to him, and C) you're early in your development process so any
drills he gives you should be able to eradicate the bad habits before
they become intractible.
It's very difficult to develop a swing based on text advice (I'd argue
it's virtually impossible). One has to be able to see the swing to be
able to have a clue (not that most of us here would have that :), since
there are often a number of reasons why you might be doing what you're
doing. For instance, I can think of at least two reasons why you might
be coming outside to inside, but I can't know which is more likely
without seeing your swing.
What's worse, we often think we're doing it right, when we're not. I
have an instructor who is my extra eyes, he can see what I'm doing and
show me exactly what I'm doing and what I should be doing. I simply
can't feel what I'm doing right and wrong.
I "golfed" for 25 years before i had my first lesson. You have no idea
how much I'd had a lesson when I was 15, so I would not have built up 25
years of bad habits I'm still in the process of eradicating.
Mike
PS: If you've never taped your swing and looked at it, you might find
that useful. Better yet, have your pro tape it and go over it with you.
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 23:14:20
From: Otto
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
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> PS: If you've never taped your swing and looked at it, you might find
> that useful.
I remember our high school coaches doing that in the nets in ch (in MN)
while the snow flew back in 1972.
It was an old fashioned taping system of some type when no one had a vcr.
It was some of the best coaching I ever received.
Otto
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 21:02:22
From: Otto
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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"Dirtclod" <beubanks@HOT.rr.com > wrote in message
news:1173053482.997038.81270@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little )
Close your alignment.
> and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough.
Relax your hands
> So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
Otto
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 20:40:23
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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Dirtclod wrote:
> You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
> and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
> ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
> almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
> made a world of difference.
>
> This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
> swing outside to in ( just a little )
There are a million ways to do this, and most of them are wrong for your
swing. I suggest you trust your instructor for guidance on this one.
> and I don't release the club
> quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
> rotate my arms faster?
Release is a funny thing - rotating your *arms* faster will usually make
the problem worse, not better. Release is really where the angle
between the club and arms straightens out. It's not the same thing as
moving your arms faster, although they are related. The trick IMHO to
moving your arms is to start slow and gradually speed up your arms
through impact. Too many of us (myself included) start the arms fast
and then they don't have as much speed when you get to the ball.
Take your time. So far I've counted 3 things you want to change during
the downswing. While I feel it's reasonable to try to manage more than
one thing during the setup of a swing, even for practice 1 or 2 things
are the most a person should try to think about. I see people all
wrapped up in multiple swing thoughts, and chastising themselves after
each shot for one of a half-dozen different 'mistakes' they're trying to
train out.
Dave
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Date: 04 Mar 2007 19:30:26
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: little more advice needed
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On 4 2007 16:11:23 -0800, "Dirtclod" <beubanks@HOT.rr.com > wrote:
>You guys helped me out a great deal with your last advice. I took it
>and went and got some lessons. The instructor said the grip was good,
>ball position was good but my posture was terrible. I was standing
>almost straight up and no bend in the knees. He fixed that and it
>made a world of difference.
>
>This is where I need a little more advice. According to him, I still
>swing outside to in ( just a little ) and I don't release the club
>quite quick enough. So how do I get rid of the outside to in and
>rotate my arms faster?
>
>I know it sounds easy, but he says my swing should be a little flatter
>and I am struggling with the mechanics of this.
>
>Any suggestions would help.
Take a pop can (empty or full, your choice) and put it about a 8-12
inches behind the ball. Swing so that you don't hit the pop can.
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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