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Date: 19 Aug 2006 22:58:44
From: Patty
Subject: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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on a par 4 ?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:26:28
From: Tony
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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You've given me an idea. We really don't know if shouting at the ball influences its path. So, as a golf hack, I'm going to, on alternate approaches where I have a chance of reaching the green (that's not a given even from 10 feet) I'll alternate shouting 'get in the hole' with 'get in the water', or trap, whatever is the risk. After a few thousand shots I may have meaningful statistics, but even better, since this is research, a nice tax deduction too. I may have to test the theory on both of the US coasts, and maybe the Golf of Mexico, and of course on the other side of the equator, too. I wonder if the PGA funds this kind of research, I'd rather spend some one else's money and let them take the deduction. No cameras and shut up while I am putting wrote: > Patty wrote: > > on a par 4 ? > > Those dim wits yell it out ..on every hole. I think they actually > follow the tour ..It Always Sounds > like the same few idiots.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:09:11
From: daveholo
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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johnty wrote: > Chris S wrote: > > > Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this > > and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans behavior > > at soccer matches. > > > So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are > criticising? Actually, it looks to me like Tranny slammed "most Americans", while Chris pointed specifically to "a couple of buffoons". Broad brush vs. laser pointer ... at least that's how I read it. Dave http://www.holotradband.com
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 12:55:35
From: taltos
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"daveholo" <dave_holo@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1156090151.563131.109180@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > johnty wrote: >> Chris S wrote: >> >> > Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this >> > and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans >> > behavior >> > at soccer matches. >> >> >> So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are >> criticising? > > Actually, it looks to me like Tranny slammed "most Americans", while > Chris pointed specifically to "a couple of buffoons". Broad brush vs. > laser pointer ... at least that's how I read it. > > Dave > http://www.holotradband.com Idiot Americans as opposed to those who yelled at Tiger and threw crap on the 18th green at the Open Championship? Were those imported Americans or Europeans? Paul >
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 08:46:28
From: johnty
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Chris S wrote: > Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this > and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans behavior > at soccer matches. So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are criticising?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:44:54
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"johnty" <johnty1@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1156088788.251573.278600@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Chris S wrote: > >> Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this >> and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans >> behavior >> at soccer matches. > > > So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are > criticising? > As someone else suggested, I made no broad generalization regarding a nations behavior, rather that of the fans. IMO, that's a bit different.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 08:14:10
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Tony wrote: > Luke after all had lived in Chicago. He has a fan base there. > > But the intimidation factor has got to come into play, I think playing > in the final pairing with Woods on Sunday adds a couple of strokes to > most everyone's game. He definitely has that hurdle to overcome, plus the pressure of facing the opportunity to win his first major. The odds certainly aren't in his favor, but it would be a great story if he won. Not likely, though! (;-) Best, Ken
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 08:06:50
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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God save us if the PGA ever hires the NBA's marketing team. They'll have "GO IN THE HOLE" piped in after every drive. And, if anyone has the mindset to ignore the "Tiger's Sunday Playing Parter" jinx, it's Donald. I *have* to root for the guy being a fellow short-knocker and all. On a 7,500+ yd. course. Go Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke!
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:53:24
From: Tony
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Luke after all had lived in Chicago. He has a fan base there. But the intimidation factor has got to come into play, I think playing in the final pairing with Woods on Sunday adds a couple of strokes to most everyone's game. rich wrote: > The TV announcers said that Luke had more than the usual number of > FANS...not detractors..... at the course. In fact, they said it should be > interesting to hear/see the support that Luke gets on Sunday, right along > with Tiger's fans. RG > -- > RichG TX IL > Manager http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners/
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 22:07:17
From:
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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I was impressed with Luke's talent / demeanor. >mho >v fe >=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"d R i V e =A0L e $ s"
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:28:52
From: No cameras and shut up while I am putting
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Patty wrote: > on a par 4 ? Those dim wits yell it out ..on every hole. I think they actually follow the tour ..It Always Sounds like the same few idiots.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:06:29
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"Patty" <simplycisco@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1156053524.731203.23720@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > on a par 4 ? > Most of the fans that yell that have no idea what the game of golf is supposed to be like. Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans behavior at soccer matches.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 04:09:25
From: Jack Thompson
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Fairway wrote: > Tranny wrote: > > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? > > I don=B4t know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald > certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? They're probably sober at the entrance.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 03:48:57
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Tranny wrote: > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? I don=B4t know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 16:53:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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On 20 Aug 2006 03:48:57 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: >I donīt know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald >certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F It's like "in the hole", or doing the wave. Whenever someone with a long "oo" in his name does something good, there are fans who think it is funny to chant his name. I suppose they could have said "use the force, Luke"...
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 06:16:49
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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On 20 Aug 2006 03:48:57 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Tranny wrote: >> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? > >I donīt know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald >certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F You don't know very much at all, do you? Donald graduated from Northwestern University,and is a crowd favorite there in the Chicago area. The "booing" you heard was his fans chanting "Luuuuuuuuuuuke". ___, \o
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 11:08:26
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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You need to pay more attention and lay off that six pack. Luuuuke......Luuuuke..... "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1156070937.115801.271280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Tranny wrote: > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? I donīt know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:05:29
From: rich
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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The TV announcers said that Luke had more than the usual number of FANS...not detractors..... at the course. In fact, they said it should be interesting to hear/see the support that Luke gets on Sunday, right along with Tiger's fans. RG -- RichG TX IL Manager http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners/
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 11:11:35
From: multi
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:26 GMT, "3putt" <golf24/7@golfing.com > wrote: >You need to pay more attention and lay off that six pack. >Luuuuke......Luuuuke..... Use the force?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:38:09
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1156070937.115801.271280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Tranny wrote: > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? I donīt know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F Who boo'ed Luke? There were chants of "Luuuuuuuke" all the time. Did anyone hear a single "boo" out there?? I know that I didn't. dave
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:37:37
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1156070937.115801.271280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Tranny wrote: > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? I donīt know about "most Americans" but those who booed Luke Donald certainly are. Why are such scumbags allowed on the course? F ------------------------- You're kidding, right? They weren't booing. They were yelling "Luuuuuuke! Luuuuuuuke!" Randy
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 11:09:08
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Patty wrote: > on a par 4 ? Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? Tran
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:59:51
From: Big Clobby Bobber
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? Need a "Tran"slation? "Tranny" <tranny@notrolll.com > wrote in message news:44e826b4_1@x-privat.org... > Patty wrote: >> on a par 4 ? > > Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? > Tran
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 20:44:17
From: Craig
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Point proven it seems. > Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? > Need a "Tran"slation? > >> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? >> Tran
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:22:07
From: long&left
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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what point? BBC's not an American :) Craig wrote: > Point proven it seems. > > >> Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? >> Need a "Tran"slation? >> >>> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? >>> Tran > >
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 02:40:23
From: Big Bobby Clobber
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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long&left wrote: > what point? BBC's not an American :) > > Craig wrote: >> Point proven it seems. >> >> >>> Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? >>> Need a "Tran"slation? >>> >>>> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? >>>> Tran >> >> Not me! Canadians are too polite to call people F***tards. Mr. Bobber excepted, of course.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 14:44:21
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Craig wrote: > Point proven it seems. Lol! Well-spotted! Tran >> Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? >> Need a "Tran"slation? >> >>> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? >>> Tran >
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 18:15:33
From: Big Clobby Bobber
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Tweedledee and Tweedledumb. A matched pair. You two can go off in the topiary and frig each other. Won't that be a dainty dish to set before the queen? "Tranny" <tranny@notrolll.com > wrote in message news:44e85925_2@x-privat.org... > Craig wrote: >> Point proven it seems. > > > Lol! Well-spotted! > > Tran > > > >>> Can you get your mind around the fact that you are a fucktard? >>> Need a "Tran"slation? >>> >>>> Well, what can one say other than most Americans are dumbasses? >>>> Tran >>
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:05:32
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Big Clobby Bobber wrote: > Tweedledee and Tweedledumb. > A matched pair. You two can go off in the topiary and frig each other. > Won't that be a dainty dish to set before the queen? You're not just proving the dumbass point, but also making yourself look a right cnut. Tran
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 05:54:45
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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"Tranny" <tranny@notrolll.com > wrote in message news:44e9694c_1@x-privat.org... > Big Clobby Bobber wrote: >> Tweedledee and Tweedledumb. >> A matched pair. You two can go off in the topiary and frig each other. >> Won't that be a dainty dish to set before the queen? > > You're not just proving the dumbass point, but also making yourself look a > right <snip>. > Tran You're doing a right good job yourself there tranny.
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 11:23:55
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Chris S wrote: > "Tranny" <tranny@notrolll.com> wrote in message > news:44e9694c_1@x-privat.org... >> Big Clobby Bobber wrote: >>> Tweedledee and Tweedledumb. >>> A matched pair. You two can go off in the topiary and frig each other. >>> Won't that be a dainty dish to set before the queen? >> You're not just proving the dumbass point, but also making yourself look a >> right <snip>. >> Tran > > You're doing a right good job yourself there tranny. Yes! I mustn't feed the trolls. Thank you! Tranny
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 19:33:39
From: Mister Hand
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Patty wrote: > on a par 4 ? 'cuz they're L33t
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 17:02:11
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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multi wrote: > > Aside from the purple powder incident, .=2E.which had nothing to do with the fans! the marshals failed to > confiscate cameras, which several fans interpreted as permission to > use them any time, any place, including during a golfer's shot. > Tiger's group was even put on the clock because they had to back off > of so many shots. Not good. I hope the marshals will be more efficient at the K Club but knowing the Irish - which together with the Italians are the most likable people in Europe - I=B4m not optimistic. F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:15:31
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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daveholo wrote: > Tranny slammed "most" of a nation of 300 million people for the actions > of what, half-a-dozen people? Chris slammed two posters for their own > actions. Tranny used a broad brush. Chris was very specific. At no > time, to this point at least, has anyone in this thread insulted "most > Europeans." .... broad brush .... specific .... they're > different. 99.9 % of American golfing fans are true gentlemen. Of all the Americans I=B4ve played golf with 100% have been true gentlemen as well and a pleasure to spend a time with. We can=B4t slam a nation of 300 M for the behavior of a few scumbags. F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:12:05
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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multi wrote: > On 20 Aug 2006 13:01:57 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com> wrote: > >European golf fans are > >usually very courteous > > Last month's Open took a little shine off of that image. I didn=B4t follow the whole show. What exactly are you referring to? I=B4m asking out of curiosity. I sincerely hope that the Ryder Cup will be fought in a chivalrous spirit. Hooligans should have no place in golf. F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 16:55:46
From: multi
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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On 20 Aug 2006 15:12:05 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: > >multi wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2006 13:01:57 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >European golf fans are >> >usually very courteous >> >> Last month's Open took a little shine off of that image. > >I didnīt follow the whole show. What exactly are you referring to? >Iīm asking out of curiosity. I sincerely hope that the Ryder Cup will >be fought in a chivalrous spirit. Hooligans should have no place in >golf. F Aside from the purple powder incident, the marshals failed to confiscate cameras, which several fans interpreted as permission to use them any time, any place, including during a golfer's shot. Tiger's group was even put on the clock because they had to back off of so many shots.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 14:14:16
From: daveholo
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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johnty wrote: > daveholo wrote: > > johnty wrote: > > > Chris S wrote: > > > > > > > Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this > > > > and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans behavior > > > > at soccer matches. > > > > > > > > > So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are > > > criticising? > > > > Actually, it looks to me like Tranny slammed "most Americans", while > > Chris pointed specifically to "a couple of buffoons". Broad brush vs. > > laser pointer ... at least that's how I read it. > > > > "...fans behaviour at soccer matches" is a broad brush It is merely a statement of fact that there will be a few idiots in the crowds at either golf or soccer matches. Tranny & his pal used that fact to insult "most Americans". Chris called those two specific posters "buffoons" for their failure to comprehend the obvious. Tranny slammed "most" of a nation of 300 million people for the actions of what, half-a-dozen people? Chris slammed two posters for their own actions. Tranny used a broad brush. Chris was very specific. At no time, to this point at least, has anyone in this thread insulted "most Europeans." .... broad brush .... specific .... they're different. Dave http://www.holotradband.com
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 13:31:20
From: johnty
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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daveholo wrote: > johnty wrote: > > Chris S wrote: > > > > > Kind of like the couple of buffoons that answered this > > > and slammed Americans. Apparently, they like to forget their fans behavior > > > at soccer matches. > > > > > > So you're coming up with the same general nonsense as those you are > > criticising? > > Actually, it looks to me like Tranny slammed "most Americans", while > Chris pointed specifically to "a couple of buffoons". Broad brush vs. > laser pointer ... at least that's how I read it. > "...fans behaviour at soccer matches" is a broad brush
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 13:01:57
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Dave Lee wrote: > Who boo'ed Luke? There were chants of "Luuuuuuuke" all the time. Did anyo= ne > hear a single "boo" out there?? I know that I didn't. Good to hear. To me, ca 10,000 kilometers away, it sounded like booing. I=B4m glad to stand corrected. As to American vs European fans, personally I=B4ve only played with very civilized and nice Americans; the behaviour of American fans is sometimes a bit debatable, though - their treatment of Monty has been incredible. European golf fans are usually very courteous, but of course football fans are more like a posse of feral dogs. Goes swith the territory, doesn=B4t it? F
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 13:22:48
From: multi
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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On 20 Aug 2006 13:01:57 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: >European golf fans are >usually very courteous Last month's Open took a little shine off of that image.
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 00:17:11
From: Jack Thompson
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Fairway wrote: > the behaviour of American fans is sometimes a bit debatable, though - > their treatment of Monty has been incredible. Monty brought that on himself. Trash talking before a Ryder Cup is a classless move.
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 03:35:13
From: Noons
Subject: Re: why do they shout get in the hole!!
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Patty wrote: > on a par 4 ? Says a lot about "they", doesn't it? LOL!
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