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Date: 03 Oct 2006 07:18:51
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: two stroke penalties
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Is there a general guideline (sort of like one or two club length
drops), to indicate when there is a two stroke penalty?
I was taking a random quiz from
http://www.usga.org/playing/rules/rules_quiz_results.asp
and got the following wrong:
In stroke play, a player takes relief from an out of bounds
fence under the obstruction Rule and plays the ball. What is the
ruling?
Incorrect
You answered There is a one stroke penalty.
Correct answer There is a two stroke penalty.
Explanation Definition of "Obstructions" and Rule 18-2a
Checking 18-2a, I see the following:
18-2 By Player, Partner, Caddie or Equipment
a. General
When a players ball is in play, if:
(i) the player, his partner or either of their caddies lifts or moves
it, touches it purposely (except with a club in the act of addressing
it) or causes it to move except as permitted by a Rule, or (ii)
equipment of the player or his partner causes the ball to move,the
player incurs a penalty of one stroke. If the ball is moved, it must
be replaced unless the movement of the ball occurs after the player
has begun the stroke or the backward movement of the club for the
stroke and the stroke is made.
Under the Rules there is no penalty if a player accidentally causes
his ball to move in the following circumstances:
In searching for a ball in a hazard covered by loose impediments
or sand, for a ball in an abnormal ground condition or for a ball
believed to be in water in a water hazard Rule 12-1
In repairing a hole plug or ball mark Rule 16-1c
In measuring Rule 18-6
In lifting a ball under a Rule Rule 20-1
In placing or replacing a ball under a Rule Rule 20-3a
In removing a loose impediment on the putting green Rule 23-1
In removing movable obstructions Rule 24-1.
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Date: 03 Oct 2006 16:40:55
From: Silvio Bierman
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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Caused by lack of skill : 1 stroke
Caused by lack of adherence to rules : 2 strokes
Silvio Bierman
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Date: 03 Oct 2006 22:44:22
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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On Tue, 3 2006 16:40:55 +0200, "Silvio Bierman"
<sbierman@jambo-software.nl > wrote:
> Caused by lack of skill : 1 stroke
> Caused by lack of adherence to rules : 2 strokes
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Rule 18-2a on Line 1.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 00:00:17
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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Peter Strauss wrote:
> Rule 18-2a on Line #1
> Moe Norman on Line #3
Who's on Line 2?
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 01:10:31
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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On Wed, 04 2006 00:00:17 GMT, Colin Wilson <nowhere@nospam.com >
wrote:
> Peter Strauss wrote:
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> > Rule 18-2a on Line #1
> > Moe Norman on Line #3
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> Who's on Line 2?
Oh for gawd's sake, Colin, don't answer Line 2, whatever you do!
Please! Think of the children!
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:19:24
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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On Wed, 04 2006 00:00:17 GMT, Colin Wilson <nowhere@nospam.com >
wrote:
>Peter Strauss wrote:
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>> Rule 18-2a on Line #1
> > Moe Norman on Line #3
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>Who's on Line 2?
IIRC, it was Dustin Hoffman.
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jvdp
Myke Plough-in-skee is not mentioned in this thread.
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com/files/OH_2006_make_a_putt.avi
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 01:05:50
From: Silvio Bierman
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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"Peter Strauss" <pfs126@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:ltp5i214ipaqefgu19mj40uevfkr6bkcj7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 3 2006 16:40:55 +0200, "Silvio Bierman"
> <sbierman@jambo-software.nl> wrote:
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>> Caused by lack of skill : 1 stroke
>> Caused by lack of adherence to rules : 2 strokes
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> Rule 18-2a on Line 1.
Yep, you are right. I was aware it does not always hold and use it as a
general rule of thumb. I just could not remember exactly when it did not
apply. I usually bring the book...
Silvio Bierman
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Date: 03 Oct 2006 07:25:51
From: long&left
Subject: Re: two stroke penalties
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> Is there a general guideline (sort of like one or two club length
> drops), to indicate when there is a two stroke penalty?
>
>
when you make a bigger mistake than you made to get a one stroke penalty?
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