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Date: 19 Nov 2006 11:43:57
From: James Morin
Subject: steel vs graphite
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All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 21:29:23
From: gpsman
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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James Morin wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
> considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
> one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
> negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
How 'bout mentioning if you began golfing yesterday, or the day before?
Can you hit the ball, or does it happen by chance?
99% of golfers could use a wooden shafted shovel and notice improvement
in their ball striking, and are idiots.
Save your money, buy 14 shovels.
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- gpsman
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 04:47:31
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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The answer is unfortunately "maybe". All things being equal (which
they're usually not) the grapite will be lighter and should
theoretically allow you to generate greater swing speed.
But unless your driver head is worth it (a relatively expensive, new
model head) it may not be worth the cost of having the shaft replaced.
You may be better off getting a good condition, used driver with the
shaft you want (and maybe a better head).
Anything other than getting a specific, expert opinion from a trusted
club maker is just guess work. At least get on the range, or better yet
a simulator and/or launch monitor at someplace like a Golfsmith with the
shaft/club you're interested in.
Rob
James Morin wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
> considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
> one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
> negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
>
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 04:07:29
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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James Morin wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
> considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
> one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
> negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
>
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Steel: heavy...consistent...cheap
Graphite: light..occasional anomalies..expensive
Most shafts in irons are about 1/2" longer in graphite and this accounts
for the greater distance reported from clubs w/ graphits vis-a-vis the
same model with steel
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Watson deMeneux
-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:27:47
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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James Morin wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft?
If all swing factors were equal, it wouldn't matter.
But one thing I've learned: All things being equal, they ain't.
The advantage of graphite over steel is the weight of the shaft.
Lighter weight = faster swing speed = more distance.
A lighter shaft also lets the manufacturer put more weight in the head
where it will do the most good.
The advantage of steel shafts has historically been tighter tolerances
and more consistency, although those advantages probably aren't as
great as they once were. This is why many goflers will choose graphite
shafts for their long clubs (more distance) and steel shafts for their
irons and wedges (more accuracy).
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 20:34:34
From: retiredusarmy
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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"James Morin" <001946@kelcom.igs.net > wrote in message
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All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
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Disclosure: I am not a certified club builder. I do my own building and
repair.
In a driver, I think graphite is definitely better. I would not put
graphite in my irons unless you had a professional take a lot of time and
frequency match all the shafts. In irons, I want the same distance every
time I hit a certain club. When I had graphite for 2 months in my irons, I
had swings of + or - 8 yards on irons.
A three wood is another candidate for graphite if you have a smooth swing.
However, if you have arthritis or severe tendonitis in arms, graphite will
help dampen vibration even better than the sensicore and foam additions.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 20:56:05
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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James Morin wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
> considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
> one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
> negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
Zero or negligible improvement.
Generally the only clubhead speed improvements come from slower swinging
golfers who get a little bit of extra snap from a longer, softer
graphite shaft.
It will change the weighting and feel of the club substantially, so in
many cases a golfer who swears up and down that a shaft is so much more
powerful simply doesn't realize that it's a problem of them treating the
club differently. There are many cases that seem reliably documented,
but in all of them the improvement comes from something else that the
shaft manufacturer is all too eager to attribute to the gear.
Dave
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 15:55:17
From:
Subject: Re: steel vs graphite
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On Nov 19, 11:43 am, "James Morin" <001...@kelcom.igs.net > wrote:
> All swing factors being equal, will an R flex graphite shaft result in
> greater or less overall distance than an R flex steel shaft? I have been
> considering repacing the steel shaft in my driver with a newer graphite
> one...but am reluctant to spend the extra money if there will be no
> negligible improvement. Some positive feedback would be appreciated.
>
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Simple,
Do you want your ball longer or in play?
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