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Date: 12 Sep 2006 21:52:42
From: sjh
Subject: installing or removing grips with compressed air



I was intrigued by the Star Grips thread a while back. As I'm not yet
a darksider, though have taken the first step (bought a small
compressor). The solvent free install method set off a ding, because I
don't like messes, and I like fast and that way that guy did it on
Star's video suited me. Grip changing is getting very expensive these
days, so I knew it was a matter of time before I would bite the bullet.

So my question is, does anyone know of an idea to get what Star Grips
offer here for a lot less. E.g., I bought the exact trigger thingy
shown in the link for $5 at the Home Despot, made by "Husky" to go with
my 1 gallon comp.

http://www.stargrip.com/TapelessInstallation/graphics/PromoColorB.gif

What I'd like to add is that black "cup" to which needs to be I guess
at least 7/8" or more to fit over the grip cap??

Thoughts appreciated.





 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 04:43:48
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air


sjh wrote:
> I was intrigued by the Star Grips thread a while back. As I'm not yet
> a darksider, though have taken the first step (bought a small
> compressor). The solvent free install method set off a ding, because I
> don't like messes, and I like fast and that way that guy did it on
> Star's video suited me. Grip changing is getting very expensive these
> days, so I knew it was a matter of time before I would bite the bullet.
>
> So my question is, does anyone know of an idea to get what Star Grips
> offer here for a lot less. E.g., I bought the exact trigger thingy
> shown in the link for $5 at the Home Despot, made by "Husky" to go with
> my 1 gallon comp.
>
> http://www.stargrip.com/TapelessInstallation/graphics/PromoColorB.gif
>
> What I'd like to add is that black "cup" to which needs to be I guess
> at least 7/8" or more to fit over the grip cap??
>
> Thoughts appreciated.
>

Friend of mine uses the Husky part - no end cap - works just fine.

David


 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 15:47:26
From: dsc
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air


Don Fordham wrote:
> "sjh" <strat68@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158176476.083642.88410@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Mike Dalecki wrote:
> >> I have the star grip thingy, and based on the advice of someone whom I'm
> >> forgotten, I cut the cup off, leaving only the base and the small nipple
> >> to insert in the grip.
> >>
> >> FWIW, I use this on my own clubs, but I've found that over time, a
> >> blown-on grip can tend to migrate around the butt end of of the shaft a
> >> bit. I don't care much about that as I don't take a grip based on how
> >> the grip aligns with the clubface, but many do, and if it moves around
> >> even a bit, it can have a deleterious effect on one's shotmaking ability.
> >
> > Thanks guys, seems the training wheels are unnecessary :)
> >
> > I plan to install the grips upside down, not much graphics on my
> > favorite grip anyway. I look at the leading edge of the sole when
> > gripping. As long as they don't move when swinging :)
> >
> > Another training wheel question, do you use a protector to keep the
> > grip from balooning after you get the hang of it? If so, any
> > alternative 'round the house ideas welcome, the goofy shaft tubes are
> > somewhere in my mom's garage, and I don't think they make em anymore.
> >
>
> You don't need the protector when installing. Proper tecnique when
> installing is to use short bursts of air and the air will come out through
> the shaft opening of the grip as you go.
>
> The grip will balloon when taking old grips off, especially if they were
> originally put on with tape. That's because the air gets trapped in the
> grip until its seal with the shaft is broken. The protector will prevent
> the grip from exploding untill its seal is broken. Then you can use short
> bursts and twist the grip off. I use a short piece of PVC pipe as a
> protector.
>
> Here's a short article on the process:
> http://www.clubmaker-online.com/arnie.gripblow.html

Yep... I exploded the first one I tried... It ruptured in a spot worn y
my right thumb. So be careful. :)

After installing the new grip dry... it seems that the bery butt end is
a bit loose, but the rest of it is stuck tight. Is that pretty normal?
does it effect play?



  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 00:15:13
From: Don Fordham
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air



> Yep... I exploded the first one I tried... It ruptured in a spot worn y
> my right thumb. So be careful. :)
>
> After installing the new grip dry... it seems that the bery butt end is
> a bit loose, but the rest of it is stuck tight. Is that pretty normal?
> does it effect play?
>

I haven't run into that; it may depend on the make of grip. What I have
noticed, is that the entire grip feels "mushy" right after it is put on. I
think that this is a combination of the grip being stretched in the
application process, and some trapped air remaining under the grip. The
grip recovers overnight.

One consideration with using air is that the grip is probably sized to
include a single wrap of tape underneath. The same grip may feel a little
smaller when installed with air. I suppose this could also account for the
slight looseness you mention. The solution is to use ordinary masking tape
under the grip, or go to a smaller grip like a .580 rather than a .600 on a
.600 shaft .





 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 12:41:16
From: sjh
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air



Mike Dalecki wrote:
> I have the star grip thingy, and based on the advice of someone whom I'm
> forgotten, I cut the cup off, leaving only the base and the small nipple
> to insert in the grip.
>
> FWIW, I use this on my own clubs, but I've found that over time, a
> blown-on grip can tend to migrate around the butt end of of the shaft a
> bit. I don't care much about that as I don't take a grip based on how
> the grip aligns with the clubface, but many do, and if it moves around
> even a bit, it can have a deleterious effect on one's shotmaking ability.

Thanks guys, seems the training wheels are unnecessary :)

I plan to install the grips upside down, not much graphics on my
favorite grip anyway. I look at the leading edge of the sole when
gripping. As long as they don't move when swinging :)

Another training wheel question, do you use a protector to keep the
grip from balooning after you get the hang of it? If so, any
alternative 'round the house ideas welcome, the goofy shaft tubes are
somewhere in my mom's garage, and I don't think they make em anymore.



  
Date: 13 Sep 2006 19:30:52
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air


sjh wrote:

> Mike Dalecki wrote:
>
>>I have the star grip thingy, and based on the advice of someone whom I'm
>>forgotten, I cut the cup off, leaving only the base and the small nipple
>>to insert in the grip.
>>
>>FWIW, I use this on my own clubs, but I've found that over time, a
>>blown-on grip can tend to migrate around the butt end of of the shaft a
>>bit. I don't care much about that as I don't take a grip based on how
>>the grip aligns with the clubface, but many do, and if it moves around
>>even a bit, it can have a deleterious effect on one's shotmaking ability.
>
>
> Thanks guys, seems the training wheels are unnecessary :)
>
> I plan to install the grips upside down, not much graphics on my
> favorite grip anyway. I look at the leading edge of the sole when
> gripping. As long as they don't move when swinging :)
>
> Another training wheel question, do you use a protector to keep the
> grip from balooning after you get the hang of it? If so, any
> alternative 'round the house ideas welcome, the goofy shaft tubes are
> somewhere in my mom's garage, and I don't think they make em anymore.
>

No, I don't--You'll find that as long as the air is flowing from the end
of the grip, it can't balloon. There's a knack to this, like riding a
bike, such that once you have it, you will be fine.

Mike

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Date: 13 Sep 2006 20:46:42
From: Don Fordham
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air



"sjh" <strat68@eudoramail.com > wrote in message
news:1158176476.083642.88410@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Mike Dalecki wrote:
>> I have the star grip thingy, and based on the advice of someone whom I'm
>> forgotten, I cut the cup off, leaving only the base and the small nipple
>> to insert in the grip.
>>
>> FWIW, I use this on my own clubs, but I've found that over time, a
>> blown-on grip can tend to migrate around the butt end of of the shaft a
>> bit. I don't care much about that as I don't take a grip based on how
>> the grip aligns with the clubface, but many do, and if it moves around
>> even a bit, it can have a deleterious effect on one's shotmaking ability.
>
> Thanks guys, seems the training wheels are unnecessary :)
>
> I plan to install the grips upside down, not much graphics on my
> favorite grip anyway. I look at the leading edge of the sole when
> gripping. As long as they don't move when swinging :)
>
> Another training wheel question, do you use a protector to keep the
> grip from balooning after you get the hang of it? If so, any
> alternative 'round the house ideas welcome, the goofy shaft tubes are
> somewhere in my mom's garage, and I don't think they make em anymore.
>

You don't need the protector when installing. Proper tecnique when
installing is to use short bursts of air and the air will come out through
the shaft opening of the grip as you go.

The grip will balloon when taking old grips off, especially if they were
originally put on with tape. That's because the air gets trapped in the
grip until its seal with the shaft is broken. The protector will prevent
the grip from exploding untill its seal is broken. Then you can use short
bursts and twist the grip off. I use a short piece of PVC pipe as a
protector.

Here's a short article on the process:
http://www.clubmaker-online.com/arnie.gripblow.html





 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 18:26:17
From: Don Fordham
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air



"sjh" <strat68@eudoramail.com > wrote in message
news:1158123162.407555.295980@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> I was intrigued by the Star Grips thread a while back. As I'm not yet
> a darksider, though have taken the first step (bought a small
> compressor). The solvent free install method set off a ding, because I
> don't like messes, and I like fast and that way that guy did it on
> Star's video suited me. Grip changing is getting very expensive these
> days, so I knew it was a matter of time before I would bite the bullet.
>
> So my question is, does anyone know of an idea to get what Star Grips
> offer here for a lot less. E.g., I bought the exact trigger thingy
> shown in the link for $5 at the Home Despot, made by "Husky" to go with
> my 1 gallon comp.
>
> http://www.stargrip.com/TapelessInstallation/graphics/PromoColorB.gif
>
> What I'd like to add is that black "cup" to which needs to be I guess
> at least 7/8" or more to fit over the grip cap??
>
> Thoughts appreciated.
>

The cup is really not necessary. I've been removing and installing with
only the trigger and a conical tip for quite a while.




  
Date: 13 Sep 2006 14:07:14
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: installing or removing grips with compressed air


Don Fordham wrote:
> "sjh" <strat68@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158123162.407555.295980@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>>I was intrigued by the Star Grips thread a while back. As I'm not yet
>>a darksider, though have taken the first step (bought a small
>>compressor). The solvent free install method set off a ding, because I
>>don't like messes, and I like fast and that way that guy did it on
>>Star's video suited me. Grip changing is getting very expensive these
>>days, so I knew it was a matter of time before I would bite the bullet.
>>
>>So my question is, does anyone know of an idea to get what Star Grips
>>offer here for a lot less. E.g., I bought the exact trigger thingy
>>shown in the link for $5 at the Home Despot, made by "Husky" to go with
>>my 1 gallon comp.
>>
>>http://www.stargrip.com/TapelessInstallation/graphics/PromoColorB.gif
>>
>>What I'd like to add is that black "cup" to which needs to be I guess
>>at least 7/8" or more to fit over the grip cap??
>>
>>Thoughts appreciated.
>>
>
>
> The cup is really not necessary. I've been removing and installing with
> only the trigger and a conical tip for quite a while.
>
>

I have the star grip thingy, and based on the advice of someone whom I'm
forgotten, I cut the cup off, leaving only the base and the small nipple
to insert in the grip.

FWIW, I use this on my own clubs, but I've found that over time, a
blown-on grip can tend to migrate around the butt end of of the shaft a
bit. I don't care much about that as I don't take a grip based on how
the grip aligns with the clubface, but many do, and if it moves around
even a bit, it can have a deleterious effect on one's shotmaking ability.

Mike

--
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Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2006: June 23-25 Info: http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2006/
RSG-Wisconsin 2005 Pics: http://dalecki.net/rsgwis2005/pics/
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