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Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:03:06
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: happy birthday Michelle
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Miss Wie turns 17 today. Tomorrow she plays at Samsung. (pairings not out yet, that I can find.) I'll be there Friday and Saturday - too bad my girlfriend Grace Park didn't make the field this year. Hopefully Michelle's game is back after being a mess last month. DJJ
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 19:32:20
From: IndianaJohn
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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annika1980 wrote: > curtjester@webtv.net wrote: > > Pairings are at LPGA.com She's a few groups behind the headliners, and > > there's only twenty in the field. It's televised on 4 P.M. EST. > > Dude, when Michelle is in the field, she IS the headliner! > > Pretty decent final 4 twosomes ..... > > Gulbis / Creamer > Wie / Kerr > Pak/ Webb > Ochoa / Sorenstam > > Which group would YOU follow? Gulbis/Creamer.....and they don't have to hit a single shot!
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 17:55:00
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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curtjester@webtv.net wrote: > Pairings are at LPGA.com She's a few groups behind the headliners, and > there's only twenty in the field. It's televised on 4 P.M. EST. Dude, when Michelle is in the field, she IS the headliner! Pretty decent final 4 twosomes ..... Gulbis / Creamer Wie / Kerr Pak/ Webb Ochoa / Sorenstam Which group would YOU follow?
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 19:18:25
From: long&left
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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annika1980 wrote: > Gulbis / Creamer oh GOD!, I think I'm going to......
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 15:37:33
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message news:1160614500.508625.60880@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > curtjester@webtv.net wrote: > > Pairings are at LPGA.com She's a few groups behind the headliners, and > > there's only twenty in the field. It's televised on 4 P.M. EST. > > Dude, when Michelle is in the field, she IS the headliner! > > Pretty decent final 4 twosomes ..... > > Gulbis / Creamer > Wie / Kerr > Pak/ Webb > Ochoa / Sorenstam > > Which group would YOU follow? I recall Natalie & Paula were paired together when I saw this event a year ago. Surprisingly, their gallery was pretty small. But what was really interesting was that the group just ahead of them was Rosie Jones'. *Very* different galleries. I'm going out to Bighorn tomorrow, and I'll probably do my usual - grab the first pairing on the first fairway, and follow each group for a couple of holes as they come through. (Last year, the two members of Birdie Kim's gallery at the first green were her coach and me.) Some of the holes at Bighorn are almost "spectator hostile", so I'll need to plan around that, as well as preparing for the hordes that follow Michelle and (to a lesser extent) Annika. Article in this morning's LA Times about the LPGA's dilemma with the sponsors promoting the event with big billboards showing no one but Michelle. DJJ
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 16:13:13
From: Bucky
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Darrell Jefress wrote: > Miss Wie turns 17 today. Wow, she's that old already? Seems like she was just 14 yesterday. Now she has absolutely no more excuses. If I recall correctly, youngsters like Aree Song, Paula Creamer, and Morgan Pressel all finished #2 or #3 in LPGA majors when they were 17, so for Wie to do so now is not impressive. She needs to win a major, or at least a tournament. Is she going to apply for exemption to join LPGA tour? I believe the others have already set the precedent of joining the LPGA tour at 17.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 00:10:55
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com > wrote in message news:1160608391.358502.217590@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Now she has absolutely no more excuses. If I recall correctly, > youngsters like Aree Song, Paula Creamer, and Morgan Pressel all > finished #2 or #3 in LPGA majors when they were 17, so for Wie to do so > now is not impressive. Well yeah, but MW already did that at 14, 15 and 16. To date in majors she's had a second, three thirds, a fourth and a fifth. Creamer had a third while she was 18, and Song a second a couple weeks before her 18th birthday. Pressel's second at Cherry Hill last year at 17 was her first top ten in a major. As far as I know, Wie isn't making excuses about her record. That's mostly coming from fans who have an emotional investment of some sort. I'll be happy enough to enjoy watching her play and let things fall where they may. DJJ
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 16:10:30
From: Bucky
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Darrell Jefress wrote: > Miss Wie turns 17 today. Wow, she's that old already? Seems like she was just 14 yesterday. Now she has absolutely no more excuses. If I recall correctly, youngsters like Aree Song, Paula Creamer, and Morgan Pressel all finished #2 or #3 in LPGA majors when they were 17, so for Wie to do so now is not impressive. She needs to win a major, or at least a tournament. Is she going to apply for exemption to join LPGA tour? I believe the others have already set the precedent of joining the LPGA tour at 17.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 14:43:31
From: Don Kirkman
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Bucky wrote in article <1160608230.165007.282460@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >: >Darrell Jefress wrote: >> Miss Wie turns 17 today. >Wow, she's that old already? Seems like she was just 14 yesterday. >Now she has absolutely no more excuses. If I recall correctly, >youngsters like Aree Song, Paula Creamer, and Morgan Pressel all >finished #2 or #3 in LPGA majors when they were 17, so for Wie to do so >now is not impressive. She needs to win a major, or at least a >tournament. Is she going to apply for exemption to join LPGA tour? I >believe the others have already set the precedent of joining the LPGA >tour at 17. An LA Times article this morning (Thursday) says the LPGA commissioner said they would welcome Wie, but the article then went on to say that as of now Wie doesn't really want to join. [yet?] As they're playing right now I see Fannie on Wie's bag, and the commentators are saying Michelle and her father have been having discussions with Fannie. Things to come? -- Don Kirkman
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 21:59:58
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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"Don Kirkman" <donsno2@wavecable.com > wrote in message news:ti2pecgk42ajj44fnnu21nv3ri8a35s@4ax.com... > An LA Times article this morning (Thursday) says the LPGA commissioner > said they would welcome Wie, but the article then went on to say that as > of now Wie doesn't really want to join. [yet?] I asked Tom Bonk (article's author) about that last comment. Haven't heard from him yet, but I may see him at Bighorn tomorrow or Saturday. DJJ
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 15:12:41
From:
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Darrell Jefress wrote: > Miss Wie turns 17 today. > > Tomorrow she plays at Samsung. (pairings not out yet, that I can find.) > I'll be there Friday and Saturday - too bad my girlfriend Grace Park didn't > make the field this year. > > Hopefully Michelle's game is back after being a mess last month. > > DJJ Pairings are at LPGA.com She's a few groups behind the headliners, and there's only twenty in the field. It's televised on 4 P.M. EST.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 19:01:49
From: Del Ray
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Oh, don't you get what the problem is, Wie dasn't win, or Norman will say she's ruining the game of golf. He would have won all those majors himself, but he didn't want to ruin the game, don't you know.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 10:20:33
From:
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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annika1980 wrote: > curtjester@webtv.net wrote: > > Pairings are at LPGA.com She's a few groups behind the headliners, and > > there's only twenty in the field. It's televised on 4 P.M. EST. > > Dude, when Michelle is in the field, she IS the headliner! > I think her headliner is wearing a bit thin by now, don't you think? I see you have her third off, that's pretty high for what she deserves. > Pretty decent final 4 twosomes ..... > > Gulbis / Creamer > Wie / Kerr > Pak/ Webb > Ochoa / Sorenstam > > Which group would YOU follow? I would follow Gulbis and Creamer for starters. Maybe all the way. They really do look nice. They're very athletic. They really do look nice. They really do look nice. I would follow Ochoa some to see her put the final coffin nails into Webb, Sorenstam, and Kerr. CJ
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 08:18:13
From:
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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On 12, 2:43 am, "Bucky" <uw_badg...@email.com > wrote: > Darrell Jefress wrote: > > Well yeah, but MW already did that at 14, 15 and 16. To date in majors she's > > had a second, three thirds, a fourth and a fifth.Yeah, it was extremely impressive for Wie to accomplish that from 14-16 > because no one else had before. I'm just saying no one will be > impressed with second place finishes anymore now that she's 17 because > several others have accomplished quite a bit at age 17. Bucky... your agonizer, please.
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Date: 11 Oct 2006 23:43:43
From: Bucky
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Darrell Jefress wrote: > Well yeah, but MW already did that at 14, 15 and 16. To date in majors she's > had a second, three thirds, a fourth and a fifth. Yeah, it was extremely impressive for Wie to accomplish that from 14-16 because no one else had before. I'm just saying no one will be impressed with second place finishes anymore now that she's 17 because several others have accomplished quite a bit at age 17. > As far as I know, Wie isn't making excuses about her record. She hasn't made any excuses, but the current excuse (used by fans and media) for her lack of wins is that since she is not an LPGA member, she cannot play more than 8 (?) LPGA tournaments a year, which is why she plays all those PGA events. I'd like to see her file for an exception, become a member, play a full-time LPGA schedule, and kick some butt on the tour.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 15:49:00
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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"Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com > wrote in message news:1160635423.774317.8530@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Darrell Jefress wrote: > > As far as I know, Wie isn't making excuses about her record. > > She hasn't made any excuses, but the current excuse (used by fans and > media) for her lack of wins is that since she is not an LPGA member, > she cannot play more than 8 (?) LPGA tournaments a year, which is why > she plays all those PGA events. I'd like to see her file for an > exception, become a member, play a full-time LPGA schedule, and kick > some butt on the tour. > I guess we'll see what happens - I wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of "Michelle Wie Rule" put in place that would allow her to play more often without full membership. (Kinda like the USGA came up with the Michelle Wie Rule that gave amateurs more flexibility to accept outside assistance, then she turned pro and it became irrelevant.) As for the excuses - in a world-wide audience, you'll always find the fringe elements who will make excuses for their heroes. Hopefully, the numbers remain small. Just a note this weekend for the Michelle-oglers - her pattern seems to be to wear her "sexier" outfits on Saturday, and her more "professional" ones on Sunday. Th & F seem to often be the "junior-golf-like" outfits. DJJ
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 16:15:54
From: multi
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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Oops, I thought this was from Pitts to Michelle Malkin.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 23:42:07
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message news:n4jti2tnas2c70mq3rncjf9lnj9eqcj6h9@4ax.com... > Oops, I thought this was from Pitts to Michelle Malkin. Heck, I'd wish MM a happy birthday. She's a major cutie. DJJ
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 21:26:58
From: multi
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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On Thu, 12 2006 23:42:07 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com > wrote: > >"multi" <multi@asm.org> wrote in message >news:n4jti2tnas2c70mq3rncjf9lnj9eqcj6h9@4ax.com... >> Oops, I thought this was from Pitts to Michelle Malkin. > >Heck, I'd wish MM a happy birthday. She's a major cutie. Yes, I'm torn between my natural attraction to Asian women, and my natural repulsion from crazy women. Malkin is a female Ann Coulter.
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 14:10:56
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: happy birthday Michelle
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In article <m95ui2t8iqm7lv6q3rjqdpfam09r1ahvt0@4ax.com >, multi <multi@asm.org > wrote: > Malkin is a female Ann Coulter. LOL.
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