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Date: 12 Oct 2006 22:12:15
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
follow it up with an eagle?
Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
DJJ
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 19:22:07
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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Henry wrote:
> >
> You mean she finished +2. Seems a coupla strokes were added after she
> finished. Anybody know why?
>
They added two shots to her score to make it interesting. She's that
damned good!
Actually, there was some confusion about her score on #14. She whiffed
one shot and made 8. When I made my earlier post they showed her with
a 7 on that hole. From the post-round interview it is apparent that
they didn't know she made a quad until she told them.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 19:01:39
From: EdSmithers
Subject: Michelle's 14th - from Toronto Star
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Darrell Jefress wrote:
> What happened? Penalty, or just serious screwup? I wasn't taping.
Starting her second year as a pro, Wie took a half-hour to play the
14th hole at Bighorn with two rulings, a whiff, an unplayable lie from
a desert bush and a shot off the cement cart path just to get back to
the fairway. She wound up with a quadruple-bogey 8 on the shortest par
4 at Bighorn, sending her to a 2-over 74.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 23:51:51
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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In article <35zXg.57505$QZ1.9358@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net >
"Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com > wrote:
Sorry to be so picky but Nike marketing really should get with her and
tell her to keep her mouth closed. It's very unflattering and really hard
to ignore it when it just hangs open. Also, with all the sand she seems
to be whacking it out off, it's probably really unhealthy to be ingesting
so much.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 16:44:37
From:
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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multi wrote:
> On Thu, 12 2006 22:12:15 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
> >follow it up with an eagle?
> >
> >Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>
> Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of her bouncing. The only good
> thing about 14 was that it didn't happen during a men's event.
Didn't see what happened on 14 -- what happened?
The bright side is finishing even despite a +2 and a +3 in your round.
The down side is that Lorena and Annika are en fuego!
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 18:53:16
From: Henry
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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rastafarians2002@yahoo.com wrote:
> multi wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 2006 22:12:15 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
>>> follow it up with an eagle?
>>>
>>> Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>> Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of her bouncing. The only good
>> thing about 14 was that it didn't happen during a men's event.
>
> Didn't see what happened on 14 -- what happened?
>
> The bright side is finishing even despite a +2 and a +3 in your round.
> The down side is that Lorena and Annika are en fuego!
>
You mean she finished +2. Seems a coupla strokes were added after she
finished. Anybody know why?
Henry
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 16:04:36
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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Darrell Jefress wrote:
> So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
> follow it up with an eagle?
>
> Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>
"If you don't count my double and my triple, I played like AWESOME!"
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 19:37:04
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1160694276.319419.302770@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> Darrell Jefress wrote:
>> So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
>> follow it up with an eagle?
>>
>> Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>>
>
> "If you don't count my double and my triple, I played like AWESOME!"
>
HEY!! I resemble that remark...
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 15:54:38
From: multi
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On Thu, 12 2006 22:12:15 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com >
wrote:
>So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
>follow it up with an eagle?
>
>Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of her bouncing. The only good
thing about 14 was that it didn't happen during a men's event.
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 23:41:17
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
news:1phti25i337qdesdpg7dgoe8r1vtq7jh5v@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 2006 22:12:15 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
> >follow it up with an eagle?
> >
> >Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>
> Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of her bouncing. The only good
> thing about 14 was that it didn't happen during a men's event.
>
What happened? Penalty, or just serious screwup? I wasn't taping.
If I recall correctly, 14 is a fairly easy hole.
DJJ
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Date: 12 Oct 2006 21:25:07
From: multi
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On Thu, 12 2006 23:41:17 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com >
wrote:
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>"multi" <multi@asm.org> wrote in message
>news:1phti25i337qdesdpg7dgoe8r1vtq7jh5v@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 2006 22:12:15 GMT, "Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
>> >follow it up with an eagle?
>> >
>> >Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>>
>> Unfortunately, that wasn't the end of her bouncing. The only good
>> thing about 14 was that it didn't happen during a men's event.
>>
>
>What happened? Penalty, or just serious screwup? I wasn't taping.
>
>If I recall correctly, 14 is a fairly easy hole.
Serious screwup(s), including a whiff, *and* a penalty (unplayable
lie), for an 8. But the worst was how long it took. She kept waiting
for an official, and then, incredibly, waiting for the wind to move
some branches out of her way. It took her nearly an hour to play the
hole.
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 01:12:01
From: JJK
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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"multi" wrote:
> Serious screwup(s), including a whiff, *and* a penalty (unplayable
> lie), for an 8. But the worst was how long it took. She kept waiting
> for an official, and then, incredibly, waiting for the wind to move
> some branches out of her way. It took her nearly an hour to play the
> hole.
So THAT'S why my last round of golf took 6 hours.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 07:18:08
From: zumafan
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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zumafan wrote:
> Joe User wrote:
>
> > According to the Associated Press, it was Kerr who corrected the score on
> > that hole.
> >
> > ------------------
> > In the scoring tent, there was confusion over the score until Cristie Kerr
> > took over and went through all eight strokes. "Ocho," she said. The
> > walking scorer said, "I thought she got free relief from the bush because
> > of bees."
> >
> > "No," Wie said. "That was last year."
> > ------------------
>
> That's weird, Kerr was up on the green out of view during all the drops
> and the whif. What I saw last night on TGC was:
>
> Tee shot to cart path (tee shot not shown), what was shown was lots of
> milling about with ball on path and official pointing to nearest relief
> on the hillside. CORRECTION - tee shot was against a rock next to cart path, relief was from stance on cart path.
>
> The drop (and/or drops and/or placement) not shown. When the TV came
> back Michelle was either making a practice stroke or whiffing. My
> initial reaction was that she was attempting to hit the ball but the
> announcers didn't say anything so i thought it was a practice swing.
>
> Then she stepped back for a moment and waited for the wind to blow the
> branches away. It looked like a willow or similar type tree. It was
> nowhere near a two minute wait, but she did wait a few seconds for the
> wind to blow the branches back.
>
> She took another stroke and you couldn't see the ball but you could
> hear it bounce on the path and then they showed it right next to a bush
> on the far side of the cart path. She took an unplayable, dropped on
> the cart path, played her 5th off the path to the fairway (Kerr was up
> at the green during all this), her 6th on and two putted.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 06:29:10
From: zumafan
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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Joe User wrote:
> According to the Associated Press, it was Kerr who corrected the score on
> that hole.
>
> ------------------
> In the scoring tent, there was confusion over the score until Cristie Kerr
> took over and went through all eight strokes. "Ocho," she said. The
> walking scorer said, "I thought she got free relief from the bush because
> of bees."
>
> "No," Wie said. "That was last year."
> ------------------
That's weird, Kerr was up on the green out of view during all the drops
and the whif. What I saw last night on TGC was:
Tee shot to cart path (tee shot not shown), what was shown was lots of
milling about with ball on path and official pointing to nearest relief
on the hillside.
The drop (and/or drops and/or placement) not shown. When the TV came
back Michelle was either making a practice stroke or whiffing. My
initial reaction was that she was attempting to hit the ball but the
announcers didn't say anything so i thought it was a practice swing.
Then she stepped back for a moment and waited for the wind to blow the
branches away. It looked like a willow or similar type tree. It was
nowhere near a two minute wait, but she did wait a few seconds for the
wind to blow the branches back.
She took another stroke and you couldn't see the ball but you could
hear it bounce on the path and then they showed it right next to a bush
on the far side of the cart path. She took an unplayable, dropped on
the cart path, played her 5th off the path to the fairway (Kerr was up
at the green during all this), her 6th on and two putted.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 05:58:05
From:
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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Joe User wrote:
> By the way, did I hear right when one of the golf channel announcers
> remarked on people booing Michelle at some of the holes?
I think Michelle has a been a victim of extremely bad management, from
pros and parents. Had she played and earned her way and showed us how
good she is against the women, she would've gotten the respect she does
not have. She comes across as a dippy teen who can play golf. I don't
think she'll ever lose the image she has created.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 04:35:03
From:
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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multi wrote:
> Serious screwup(s), including a whiff, *and* a penalty (unplayable
> lie), for an 8. But the worst was how long it took. She kept waiting
> for an official, and then, incredibly, waiting for the wind to move
> some branches out of her way. It took her nearly an hour to play the
> hole.
I presume that there were a couple of penalty strokes in there for
(what appears from this description to be) a very clear-cut breach of
6-7? If not, it would be sad to see a deliberate action that breaches a
rule going unpunished, and the player benefitting from not playing by
that rule.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 11:09:32
From: Joe User
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On Thu, 12 2006 19:22:07 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> Henry wrote:
>> >
>> You mean she finished +2. Seems a coupla strokes were added after she
>> finished. Anybody know why?
>>
>>
> They added two shots to her score to make it interesting. She's that
> damned good!
>
> Actually, there was some confusion about her score on #14. She whiffed
> one shot and made 8. When I made my earlier post they showed her with a
> 7 on that hole. From the post-round interview it is apparent that they
> didn't know she made a quad until she told them.
According to the Associated Press, it was Kerr who corrected the score on
that hole.
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In the scoring tent, there was confusion over the score until Cristie Kerr
took over and went through all eight strokes. "Ocho," she said. The
walking scorer said, "I thought she got free relief from the bush because
of bees."
"No," Wie said. "That was last year."
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 10:53:18
From: Joe User
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On Fri, 13 2006 02:43:11 -0700, zumafan wrote:
> multi wrote:
>
>> Serious screwup(s), including a whiff, *and* a penalty (unplayable
>> lie), for an 8. But the worst was how long it took. She kept waiting
>> for an official, and then, incredibly, waiting for the wind to move
>> some branches out of her way. It took her nearly an hour to play the
>> hole.
>
> Of course she waited for an official. Why make your own decision and be
> disqualified the next day for doing it wrong? Thanks George Bamberger!
Waiting for the official is fine. It's expected. But, on the same hole
after the long rules discussion, to then wait around for the wind to
improve your chances is probably a little over the top, even if it was
only for a minute or two. Out of consideration for everyone else, she
should have played her shot the moment the rules had been satisfied.
By the way, did I hear right when one of the golf channel announcers
remarked on people booing Michelle at some of the holes?
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 10:41:16
From: Joe User
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On Thu, 12 2006 16:04:36 -0700, annika1980 wrote:
> Darrell Jefress wrote:
>> So you get off the par train in the wrong direction (double on 11), and
>> follow it up with an eagle?
>>
>> Does the LPGA keep a stat for "super-bounce-back"?
>>
>
> "If you don't count my double and my triple, I played like AWESOME!"
Every tournament, she plays a little more like me. Just a few more
ignorable holes per round and she'll be there.
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Date: 13 Oct 2006 02:43:11
From: zumafan
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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multi wrote:
> Serious screwup(s), including a whiff, *and* a penalty (unplayable
> lie), for an 8. But the worst was how long it took. She kept waiting
> for an official, and then, incredibly, waiting for the wind to move
> some branches out of her way. It took her nearly an hour to play the
> hole.
Of course she waited for an official. Why make your own decision and be
disqualified the next day for doing it wrong? Thanks George Bamberger!
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Date: 14 Oct 2006 03:51:03
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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On 13--2006, "Joe User" <juser@yourhome.com > wrote:
> Cristie Kerr
> took over and went through all eight strokes. "Ocho," she said.
But she meant to say "Dillhole!" :-)
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 11:58:54
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: geez, Michelle . . . . . (spoiler)
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"bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org > wrote in message
news:45305e9b$0$18909$882e0bbb@news.ThunderNews.com...
> But she meant to say "Dillhole!" :-)
>
In about a year she can call me whatever she want's :-)
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