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Date: 31 Oct 2006 16:51:27
From: annika1980
Subject: Winter is just around the corner ....


http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69507466/original





 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 01:31:50
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


You know, for a flaming liberal, with his head up his ass,.... you take some
pretty good pictures.....


"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162342287.284040.277110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69507466/original
>




  
Date: 31 Oct 2006 22:35:24
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't
make a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's
a flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag
it out in this newsgroup.

Dave

Brian Foster wrote:
> You know, for a flaming liberal, with his head up his ass,.... you take some
> pretty good pictures.....
>
>
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162342287.284040.277110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69507466/original


   
Date: 31 Oct 2006 22:08:37
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Tue, 31 2006 22:35:24 -0500, David Geesaman
<dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't
>make a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's
>a flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag
>it out in this newsgroup.
>
>Dave

Now the other dozen, or so, that are carrying on the political rants
here deserve your criticism.

Why pick on Annika? Maybe because he disagrees with your politics?
___,
\o


    
Date: 31 Oct 2006 22:11:57
From: retiredusarmy
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
news:m97gk25urtppbpbfp7qtqhdsm4lcrme9af@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 2006 22:35:24 -0500, David Geesaman
<dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't
>make a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's
>a flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag
>it out in this newsgroup.
>
>Dave

Now the other dozen, or so, that are carrying on the political rants
here deserve your criticism.

Why pick on Annika? Maybe because he disagrees with your politics?




Don't pick on our southern boy! That is our job. If you were born and
raised in the south, then feel free to jump on him with both feet.
Otherwise, bug off.




   
Date: 01 Nov 2006 07:35:27
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"David Geesaman" <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:ei94lq01egh@news2.newsguy.com...
> Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't make
> a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's a
> flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag it
> out in this newsgroup.
>

Now, that's a shame. Bad grammar coupled with insults to another's
intelligence doesn't have the impact that one intends, does it?

Based on the many things he has written here, and supposing that I had any
desire to focus particularly on him, I might say many things about Bret (I
assume he doesn't mind the use of his given name, since he leaves enough
clues behind for us to surmise it). I do believe he and I would very
strongly disagree on several things. However, I also suspect that I would
very much enjoy conversing with him were I to spend any time with him in the
real world. He comes across as a person who has given the world around him
more than just a cursory glance, and I very much enjoy the company of
someone who tends to look a little deeper than the facade this world and the
people in it present us.

Of all the things I might say about Bret (or 'annika1980', if he prefers
that moniker), one of them would not be to suggest that he is an idiot, let
alone say so in such an emphatic way as you have. He does appear to be a
'liberal', as those of us in America are prone to misapply that term. But I
have never taken that per se as an indication that someone is feebleminded.
I've often found it ironic that so many people automatically label those
that disagree with them as morons.

I have to say that, among other things, Bret's impeccable command of
language - rough as it may sometimes be - tends to indicate that he enjoys
an above average intelligence, his political leanings notwithstanding. I
must admit that I haven't been paying very close attention, but I don't
recall that he has ever blundered so badly as to use run-on sentences or
fragments, for example. I don't mean to suggest that such rudimentary
errors would indicate that someone was a fucking imbecile, but rather that
their absence begins to suggest otherwise.

As to the photograph itself, I don't give a damn whether a mastery of the
art of photography says anything about the master's intelligence or not.
That is a damn fine photograph, and I very much appreciate the artist
sharing his work with us. If he happens to be an idiot, then that is only
more evidence that intelligence is a tricky bank of pigeon holes.

Incidentally, thank you for sharing your political views with us, if only
tangentially. Always remember that, though politics is equal opportunity,
idiocy is not.

Scott




    
Date: 01 Nov 2006 10:22:15
From: Alan Murphy
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


"S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com > wrote in message
news:37Y1h.4271$Z66.2846@trnddc07...
>
> "David Geesaman" <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ei94lq01egh@news2.newsguy.com...
>> Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't
>> make a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's
>> a flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag
>> it out in this newsgroup.
>>
>
> Now, that's a shame. Bad grammar coupled with insults to another's
> intelligence doesn't have the impact that one intends, does it?
>
> Based on the many things he has written here, and supposing that I had
> any desire to focus particularly on him, I might say many things about
> Bret (I assume he doesn't mind the use of his given name, since he leaves
> enough clues behind for us to surmise it). I do believe he and I would
> very strongly disagree on several things. However, I also suspect that I
> would very much enjoy conversing with him were I to spend any time with
> him in the real world. He comes across as a person who has given the
> world around him more than just a cursory glance, and I very much enjoy
> the company of someone who tends to look a little deeper than the facade
> this world and the people in it present us.
>
> Of all the things I might say about Bret (or 'annika1980', if he prefers
> that moniker), one of them would not be to suggest that he is an idiot,
> let alone say so in such an emphatic way as you have. He does appear to
> be a 'liberal', as those of us in America are prone to misapply that
> term. But I have never taken that per se as an indication that someone
> is feebleminded. I've often found it ironic that so many people
> automatically label those that disagree with them as morons.
>
> I have to say that, among other things, Bret's impeccable command of
> language - rough as it may sometimes be - tends to indicate that he
> enjoys an above average intelligence, his political leanings
> notwithstanding. I must admit that I haven't been paying very close
> attention, but I don't recall that he has ever blundered so badly as to
> use run-on sentences or fragments, for example. I don't mean to suggest
> that such rudimentary errors would indicate that someone was a fucking
> imbecile, but rather that their absence begins to suggest otherwise.
>
> As to the photograph itself, I don't give a damn whether a mastery of the
> art of photography says anything about the master's intelligence or not.
> That is a damn fine photograph, and I very much appreciate the artist
> sharing his work with us. If he happens to be an idiot, then that is
> only more evidence that intelligence is a tricky bank of pigeon holes.
>
> Incidentally, thank you for sharing your political views with us, if only
> tangentially. Always remember that, though politics is equal
> opportunity, idiocy is not.
>
> Scott
One must remark, though, that almost all the
more intelligent posts seem to originate from
the more liberal posters and the illogical rants
from the repugs.

On the one side I would suggest Annika 1980,
R&B, Bobby Knight, multi, Carbon, William
T Clarke in no particular order. On the other
we have Larry and his ilk, ranked in a very
particular order.

Apologies to those I have omitted to mention
by name, such as Tex, Dene,Greg, MnMikew
and Joe.

Alan.





    
Date: 01 Nov 2006 11:31:34
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com > wrote in message
news:37Y1h.4271$Z66.2846@trnddc07...
.
> I've often found it ironic that so many people automatically label those
> that disagree with them as morons.
>
Brett excels at this.




    
Date: 02 Nov 2006 23:18:26
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


S McFarlane wrote:
> "David Geesaman" <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ei94lq01egh@news2.newsguy.com...
>> Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't make
>> a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's a
>> flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag it
>> out in this newsgroup.
>>
>
> Now, that's a shame. Bad grammar coupled with insults to another's
> intelligence doesn't have the impact that one intends, does it?

Blah, blah, blah. Glad I quit reading already; I know I'm dealing with
a half-wit when the word grammar is in the first sentence.

It must be a really pathetic existence when you have read so much
off-topic crap on this golf newsgroup that you can assess and compare
what's been written. It's like being proud of your report of a bunch of
pop-up books.

I find it very telling that so many here will cry, whine, and complain
about how slow play is on their favorite course, but then clutter a golf
newsgroup with off-topic discussion.

Dave


     
Date: 02 Nov 2006 22:45:30
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:18:26 -0500, David Geesaman
<dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com > wrote:

>S McFarlane wrote:
>> "David Geesaman" <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ei94lq01egh@news2.newsguy.com...
>>> Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't make
>>> a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's a
>>> flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag it
>>> out in this newsgroup.
>>>
>>
>> Now, that's a shame. Bad grammar coupled with insults to another's
>> intelligence doesn't have the impact that one intends, does it?
>
>Blah, blah, blah. Glad I quit reading already; I know I'm dealing with
>a half-wit when the word grammar is in the first sentence.
>
Hmmmm. Which is the half-wit, the one that recognizes bad grammar,
or the one who doesn't?

>It must be a really pathetic existence when you have read so much
>off-topic crap on this golf newsgroup that you can assess and compare
>what's been written. It's like being proud of your report of a bunch of
>pop-up books.
>
Bad English usage is like a pop-up book. Bang! There it is.

>I find it very telling that so many here will cry, whine, and complain
>about how slow play is on their favorite course, but then clutter a golf
>newsgroup with off-topic discussion.

Sorta like this post of yours?
___,
\o


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 10:03:59
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com wrote:
>>
> By the way Brett, you're killing this displaced yankee in
> Florida with your fall color pictures. I miss fall and winter
> the most down here in the land of early summer, summer,
> hot summer, and late summer.

It must suck to be you, living down there in Gator Country.
I'm lucky to live in one of the most beautiful spots in the US,
especially this time of year.



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 10:01:47
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



MnMikew wrote:
> "S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com> wrote in message
> news:37Y1h.4271$Z66.2846@trnddc07...
> .
> > I've often found it ironic that so many people automatically label those
> > that disagree with them as morons.
> >
> Brett excels at this.

Shuddup, idiot.



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:14:47
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162404107.369027.203520@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> MnMikew wrote:
>> "S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com> wrote in message
>> news:37Y1h.4271$Z66.2846@trnddc07...
>> .
>> > I've often found it ironic that so many people automatically label
>> > those
>> > that disagree with them as morons.
>> >
>> Brett excels at this.
>
> Shuddup, idiot.
>
Come up and make me punk. Bring your winter coat.




 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 09:38:45
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....




On Nov 1, 2:22 am, "Alan Murphy" <afm...@btinternet.com > wrote:

> One must remark, though, that almost all the
> more intelligent posts seem to originate from
> the more liberal posters and the illogical rants
> from the repugs.

Depending upon your point of view, The "liberal" and "repug" are
interchangeable. While the forum (though inapropriate) is
entertaining, I doubt it will sway many readers' minds. Most likely,
it'll entrench them even further in their beliefs.

Now, where's some more of those idiot liberal foliage photos???



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 07:14:10
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


annika1980 wrote:
[snip]
> As they say in golf, "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian."
> Having said that, equipment DOES matter, whether in golf or
> photography. Lesser equipment will tend to limit you in some way. My
> golf equipment is such that any further improvement will have to come
> from me. My photo gear is certainly better than most, but I often lust
> for even better gear that would let me make even better pics. But for
> right now, I'll have to do what I can with what I got.

You don't teach pilots by dropping them in F-15's to learn basic
stick an rudder stuff. Equipment matters, but equipment can be
too good for the operator. One can hit a bad shot with anything.
One can hit a bad shot worse with equipment that is "too good"
for the operator.

There's some photo columnist somewhere advocating that
"beginners" get a cheap digital camera and take ALOT of
pictures. The point is to learn the limits of what they have,
and to understand light and color within a narrow range of
possibilities. Once they have understandings of light,
color, balance, focus, and heck maybe even composition,
then they can understand a piece of equipment which can
extend those limits far beyond their $100 digital 2 megapixel
camera.

I suspect one can make a similar case for golf equipment.
More than one has suggested not putting a driver in the
hands of beginners but limiting them to say a 5 iron and
down. Keep the ball "in play" so that they can learn
basic shots and course management. Then they can start
adding longer clubs, more wedges, and "hotter" shafts.

By the way Brett, you're killing this displaced yankee in
Florida with your fall color pictures. I miss fall and winter
the most down here in the land of early summer, summer,
hot summer, and late summer.



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:43:50
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



S McFarlane wrote:
> >
> I have to say that, among other things, Bret's impeccable command of
> language - rough as it may sometimes be - tends to indicate that he enjoys
> an above average intelligence, his political leanings notwithstanding.

You should play golf with me sometime. Then you'd really hear me
master some language.

As for being a Liberal, that doesn't seem to come up much on the golf
course. Very few of the guys I play with (like Bill-o, Sparky,
retiredusarmy, etc.) would call themselves Liberal. In fact, most of
them are bent the other way. When we play golf we have a lot more to
worry about than politics.

In fact, I've been terribly interested in the upcoming elections,
particularly our TN Senate race between Harold Ford Jr. and Bob Corker.
Harold Ford spends most of his time talking about the issues while Bob
Corker doesn't have much to say except to slam Harold Ford. You might
have seen some of the controversial ads the RNC ran on behalf of
Corker, full of lies, innuendo and racism. It's really heated up
showing just how low politicians will go.
The latest ad has Rep. Zach Wamp, who I know and have played golf with,
talking about both candidates who are both friends of his. He says,
"They are both good men, but Bob Corker is 'one of us' who shares our
Tennessee values."
"One of us.." The implication is "white guy."
I suppose that if Tennessee values means living in a 31-room mansion
then the millionaire Bob Corker is "one of us."

But at the end of the day I realize that very little will change no
matter who gets elected.
And that's the sad part. It's almost like rooting for your favorite
football team. Does you life really change whether they win or lose
(unless you are betting on them)?

But I digress. Let's get back to the foilage.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517259



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 15:04:35
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162392230.194220.224840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>

> "One of us.." The implication is "white guy."
> I suppose that if Tennessee values means living in a 31-room mansion
> then the millionaire Bob Corker is "one of us."
>
> But at the end of the day I realize that very little will change no
> matter who gets elected.
> And that's the sad part. It's almost like rooting for your favorite
> football team. Does you life really change whether they win or lose
> (unless you are betting on them)?
>
> But I digress. Let's get back to the foilage.
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517259


I'm beginning to like Tennessee. You're also right about very little
changing. Probably best to invest (time, money, etc.) in something other
than the political machines.

Scott




  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 21:24:48
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote
>
> But I digress. Let's get back to the foilage.
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517259


Another beautiful pic.

Thanks for sharing.

Randy




  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:08:08
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162392230.194220.224840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> But at the end of the day I realize that very little will change no
> matter who gets elected.
> And that's the sad part.

All too true.




 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:30:53
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



annika1980 wrote:
> helensilverburg@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Speaking from a newsgroup that he frequents, photography, I can
> > honestly say that he is indeed a superb photographer. He is outspoken
> > and speaks his mind, but that's what a lot of us admire about him. His
> > humor keeps the newsgroup alive and interesting and his pics are indeed
> > a treat to observe. The newsgroup we frequent can be cruel sometimes,
> > saying things that are not appropriate. I've been attacked a few
> > times, and I'm grateful he jumped in to help me out. He's well
> > respected, dare I say like a pit bull-----but the fact is that he can
> > be outspoken and his opinions aggressive at times........for good
> > reason, but you can be certain that you are blessed to have him as a
> > friend.
> > Regards,
> > Helen
>
> Check's in the mail.

Is that Yoyo? :-)



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:24:55
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Brian Foster wrote:
> You know, for a flaming liberal, with his head up his ass,.... you take some
> pretty good pictures.....
>

With the direction the neocons have taken this country and with all the
corruption on the Conservative side of the aisle, the question isn't
why I'm a liberal.
The question is, "Why are you not?"

Liberals want world peace, a clean environment, health care for all,
and want to leave the world a better place for our kids. Damn right
I'm a Liberal!

Conservatives care only about business and making money. They don't
care who they have to trod on in the process. Personal freedoms mean
nothing to these people. They used to claim to be about small
government, but that has changed. Now they want to regulate every
facet of your life, telling you who you can marry and who you should
worship.
The worst part is their hypocrisy. They claim a woman shouldn't be
allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in order to "protect
innocent life." But they have no problem with killing hundreds of
thousands of innocent people in their illegal wars. They claim to have
God and Jesus on their side. They wear their WWJD bracelets, but their
actions are diametrically opposed to what Jesus would do. They don't
care about the sick or the little guy like Jesus did. They don't care
about Jesus. They only care about "Jesus, Inc."

But I digress.

Here's another one I shot yesterday from my church.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517256



  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:23:06
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


annika1980 wrote:
> Brian Foster wrote:
>
>>You know, for a flaming liberal, with his head up his ass,.... you take some
>>pretty good pictures.....
>>
>


<snip Jesus >


> But I digress.
>
> Here's another one I shot yesterday from my church.
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517256
>

Ok...I give up. Where's de ball??

[:-)]

david



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 21:26:56
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


annika1980 wrote:

> With the direction the neocons have taken this country and with all the
> corruption on the Conservative side of the aisle, the question isn't
> why I'm a liberal.
> The question is, "Why are you not?"
>
> Liberals want world peace, a clean environment, health care for all,
> and want to leave the world a better place for our kids. Damn right
> I'm a Liberal!
>
> Conservatives care only about business and making money. They don't
> care who they have to trod on in the process. Personal freedoms mean
> nothing to these people. They used to claim to be about small
> government, but that has changed. Now they want to regulate every
> facet of your life, telling you who you can marry and who you should
> worship.
> The worst part is their hypocrisy. They claim a woman shouldn't be
> allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in order to "protect
> innocent life." But they have no problem with killing hundreds of
> thousands of innocent people in their illegal wars. They claim to have
> God and Jesus on their side. They wear their WWJD bracelets, but their
> actions are diametrically opposed to what Jesus would do. They don't
> care about the sick or the little guy like Jesus did. They don't care
> about Jesus. They only care about "Jesus, Inc."
>
> But I digress.

Hey, I'm getting to like you.

> Here's another one I shot yesterday from my church.
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517256

With the right ingredients, anyone can cook. :-)

Those fall forests are magnificent. One thing we don't have in
Australia. But winter is not just around the corner here, summer is.
That means morning and evening light on the eucalypts and dry landscape
... our only answer to your colourful fall forests, albeit a subtle one.

Hey, it's raining here today. But only a few millimetres and it'll be gone.

BTW, I'm looking for a good SLR camera, particularly for landscapes and
course shots. Is the Canon EOS400D any good? Seems remarkably priced,
but I've heard negative things about the "standard" (twin) lens kit.


--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:11:10
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162391095.248866.68450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Conservatives care only about business and making money. They don't
> care who they have to trod on in the process. Personal freedoms mean
> nothing to these people.

It means something to them. They must have the freedom to exploit who they
want, and the freedom to take away whatever freedoms they deem necessary to
take away from others. In other words, they must have freedom of tyranny.

> The worst part is their hypocrisy. They claim a woman shouldn't be
> allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in order to "protect
> innocent life." But they have no problem with killing hundreds of
> thousands of innocent people in their illegal wars. They claim to have
> God and Jesus on their side. They wear their WWJD bracelets, but their
> actions are diametrically opposed to what Jesus would do.

Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)




   
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:18:07
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:11:10 GMT, "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1162391095.248866.68450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Conservatives care only about business and making money. They don't
>> care who they have to trod on in the process. Personal freedoms mean
>> nothing to these people.
>
>It means something to them. They must have the freedom to exploit who they
>want, and the freedom to take away whatever freedoms they deem necessary to
>take away from others. In other words, they must have freedom of tyranny.
>
>> The worst part is their hypocrisy. They claim a woman shouldn't be
>> allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in order to "protect
>> innocent life." But they have no problem with killing hundreds of
>> thousands of innocent people in their illegal wars. They claim to have
>> God and Jesus on their side. They wear their WWJD bracelets, but their
>> actions are diametrically opposed to what Jesus would do.
>
>Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)
>

How wonderful to see that a thread that started as a commentary on the
weather turned into politics. Oh joy.
--

jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com


    
Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:22:08
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"John van der Pflum" <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote in message
news:403kk2l8clgh21mtn0krpuc7khs75boaar@4ax.com...
>>
>>Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)
>>
>
> How wonderful to see that a thread that started as a commentary on the
> weather turned into politics. Oh joy.

Or even metadiscussion about off topicality!




     
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:58:17
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:22:08 GMT, "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com > wrote:

>
>"John van der Pflum" <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> wrote in message
>news:403kk2l8clgh21mtn0krpuc7khs75boaar@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)
>>>
>>
>> How wonderful to see that a thread that started as a commentary on the
>> weather turned into politics. Oh joy.
>
>Or even metadiscussion about off topicality!
>

What's there to (meta)discuss? Either it's on topic or it's not --
pretty black and white, IMO.

I should clarify, however. I don't mind the OT stuff too much -- it's
the political crap that really drives me nuts. There is no point in
discussion politics via email.
--

jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com


      
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:28:59
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:58:17 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:

>I should clarify, however. I don't mind the OT stuff too much -- it's
>the political crap that really drives me nuts. There is no point in
>discussion politics via email.

Ahh, we're at the 19th hole, and politics is out - that leaves beer
and babes!

(And in some communities - football)


       
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:58:03
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:58:17 -0500, John van der Pflum
> <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> wrote:
>
>> I should clarify, however. I don't mind the OT stuff too much -- it's
>> the political crap that really drives me nuts. There is no point in
>> discussion politics via email.
>
> Ahh, we're at the 19th hole, and politics is out - that leaves beer
> and babes!
>
> (And in some communities - football)

sitting around discussing beer and babes with Howard Brazee...now
there's an interesting vision :)


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:05:44
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



helensilverburg@hotmail.com wrote:
> Speaking from a newsgroup that he frequents, photography, I can
> honestly say that he is indeed a superb photographer. He is outspoken
> and speaks his mind, but that's what a lot of us admire about him. His
> humor keeps the newsgroup alive and interesting and his pics are indeed
> a treat to observe. The newsgroup we frequent can be cruel sometimes,
> saying things that are not appropriate. I've been attacked a few
> times, and I'm grateful he jumped in to help me out. He's well
> respected, dare I say like a pit bull-----but the fact is that he can
> be outspoken and his opinions aggressive at times........for good
> reason, but you can be certain that you are blessed to have him as a
> friend.
> Regards,
> Helen

Check's in the mail.



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:04:00
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



rob wrote:
> wow..if you ever need to upgrade your camera, let me know! ill buy your
> gear! that picture quality is unreal! is it the camera, or is it the big
> additional lens that makes them so good?
>

If this were the photo newsgroup I'd say it was all the camera.
But I'd like to think that some of it is the person holding it.

"Now if you don't mind, I'll demonstrate."
A photographer went to a friend's house for dinner. Before dinner he
showed some of his recent work to his friend and his friend's wife. The
wife remarked, "Those are some terrific photographs! You must have a
very good camera."

They all then sat down to a lovely dinner that the wife had prepared.
After finishing off his dessert the photographer complimented the cook.
"That, my dear, was as fine a meal as I've had in years. You must
have some terrific pots and pans."

As they say in golf, "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian."
Having said that, equipment DOES matter, whether in golf or
photography. Lesser equipment will tend to limit you in some way. My
golf equipment is such that any further improvement will have to come
from me. My photo gear is certainly better than most, but I often lust
for even better gear that would let me make even better pics. But for
right now, I'll have to do what I can with what I got.



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 08:11:51
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On 1 Nov 2006 06:04:00 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:

>
>rob wrote:
>> wow..if you ever need to upgrade your camera, let me know! ill buy your
>> gear! that picture quality is unreal! is it the camera, or is it the big
>> additional lens that makes them so good?
>>
>
>If this were the photo newsgroup I'd say it was all the camera.
>But I'd like to think that some of it is the person holding it.
<clip >
>As they say in golf, "It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian."
>Having said that, equipment DOES matter, whether in golf or
>photography. Lesser equipment will tend to limit you in some way. My
>golf equipment is such that any further improvement will have to come
>from me. My photo gear is certainly better than most, but I often lust
>for even better gear that would let me make even better pics. But for
>right now, I'll have to do what I can with what I got.

There's a parallel to my golf game somewhere in there. :-)
___,
\o


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 13:26:04
From: rob
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


wow..if you ever need to upgrade your camera, let me know! ill buy your
gear! that picture quality is unreal! is it the camera, or is it the big
additional lens that makes them so good?

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162342287.284040.277110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69507466/original
>




 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 05:21:45
From:
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Tue, 31 2006 22:35:24 -0500, David Geesaman
> <dgeesamanIHateSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Too bad a photographic eye and the saturation tool in photoshop don't
> >make a person rational or intelligent. He's not a flaming liberal, he's
> >a flaming idiot. Politics is equal opportunity. Too bad he has to drag
> >it out in this newsgroup.
> >
> >Dave
>
> Now the other dozen, or so, that are carrying on the political rants
> here deserve your criticism.
>
> Why pick on Annika? Maybe because he disagrees with your politics?
> ___,
> \o
>


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 04:02:24
From:
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Brian Foster wrote:
> You know, for a flaming liberal, with his head up his ass,.... you take some
> pretty good pictures.....
>
>
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162342287.284040.277110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69507466/original
> >

Speaking from a newsgroup that he frequents, photography, I can
honestly say that he is indeed a superb photographer. He is outspoken
and speaks his mind, but that's what a lot of us admire about him. His
humor keeps the newsgroup alive and interesting and his pics are indeed
a treat to observe. The newsgroup we frequent can be cruel sometimes,
saying things that are not appropriate. I've been attacked a few
times, and I'm grateful he jumped in to help me out. He's well
respected, dare I say like a pit bull-----but the fact is that he can
be outspoken and his opinions aggressive at times........for good
reason, but you can be certain that you are blessed to have him as a
friend.
Regards,
Helen



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:43:23
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"R&B" wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote
> >
> > But I digress. Let's get back to the foilage.
> > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517259
>
>
> Another beautiful pic.
>
> Thanks for sharing.
>
> Randy

Is Trophy Club blooming?



  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 18:52:52
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162439003.268667.24360@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> "R&B" wrote:
>> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote
>> >
>> > But I digress. Let's get back to the foilage.
>> > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/69517259
>>
>>
>> Another beautiful pic.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing.
>>
>> Randy
>
> Is Trophy Club blooming?


Yeah, it's really beautiful right now. Plus, the greens have come back.
They were in horrible shape only about 2 months ago (they'd lost them to
some fungal infection earlier this year).

Randy




 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:42:47
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Colin Wilson wrote:
> > BTW, I'm looking for a good SLR camera, particularly for landscapes and
> course shots. Is the Canon EOS400D any good? Seems remarkably priced,
> but I've heard negative things about the "standard" (twin) lens kit.

The 400D is a great buy.
The cheap kit lens is what it is ... a cheap kit lens.
But it will hold you over until you can get some better glass. The
cheapo 50mm f/1.8 is under a $100US and is excellent. For wide angle
stuff look at the 17-40L f/4.



 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 12:02:55
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


annika1980 wrote:
> oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com wrote:
> >>
> > By the way Brett, you're killing this displaced yankee in
> > Florida with your fall color pictures. I miss fall and winter
> > the most down here in the land of early summer, summer,
> > hot summer, and late summer.
>
> It must suck to be you, living down there in Gator Country.

Gators, Florida Women's College, Knight School, the whole
mess. It took them to 2006 to figure out that "The World's
Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party" wasn't a compliment for a college
football game.

> I'm lucky to live in one of the most beautiful spots in the US,
> especially this time of year.

But I lived (existed) in Manchester,TN for 2.5 years. Beautiful
country, but the middle of Buck Snort (Okay, about as far
east of Nashville as Buck Snort is west). I wouldn't go
back there on a bet. Northern Va, Maryland, Southeastern PA
is probably more my style. Good latitude for having 4 solid
seasons a year. Do wonder where I'd golf though considering
what I hear about the crowded courses up that way.



 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:05:44
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....


On Nov 2, 8:54 am, "annika1980" <annika1...@aol.com > wrote:
> John van der Pflum wrote:
> Well, political talk is seasonal as well.

Unfortunately, it never seems to go away with many of this august
group. At least, I get to look forward to your fall photo yearly. Bad
with the good, I guess...



 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:54:18
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



John van der Pflum wrote:
>>
> How wonderful to see that a thread that started as a commentary on the
> weather turned into politics. Oh joy.

Well, political talk is seasonal as well.



 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 16:25:05
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Alan Murphy wrote:

>
> Apologies to those I have omitted to mention
> by name, such as Tex, Dene,Greg, MnMikew
> and Joe.
>
> Alan.

Apology accepted....for what I have not idea, but nonetheless accepted.

FTR....I'm conversative, mostly because I hate paying taxes.

-Greg



 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 16:21:24
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



jeffc wrote:

> Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)

San Francisco. : >

-Greg



 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:59:46
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



John van der Pflum wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:11:10 GMT, "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:1162391095.248866.68450@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Conservatives care only about business and making money. They don't
> >> care who they have to trod on in the process. Personal freedoms mean
> >> nothing to these people.
> >
> >It means something to them. They must have the freedom to exploit who they
> >want, and the freedom to take away whatever freedoms they deem necessary to
> >take away from others. In other words, they must have freedom of tyranny.
> >
> >> The worst part is their hypocrisy. They claim a woman shouldn't be
> >> allowed to choose whether to have an abortion in order to "protect
> >> innocent life." But they have no problem with killing hundreds of
> >> thousands of innocent people in their illegal wars. They claim to have
> >> God and Jesus on their side. They wear their WWJD bracelets, but their
> >> actions are diametrically opposed to what Jesus would do.
> >
> >Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)
> >
>
> How wonderful to see that a thread that started as a commentary on the
> weather turned into politics. Oh joy.
> --
>
> jvdp
> http://www.rsgincinnati.com

And it took all of 2 or 3 posts!



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 06:08:45
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



Dene wrote:
> jeffc wrote:
>
> > Truly the biggest irony in modern America. WWJB (Who Would Jesus Bomb?)
>
> San Francisco. :>
>

No, he'd probably live in San Francisco and bomb Washington D.C.



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 06:07:16
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



David Geesaman wrote:
> >
> I find it very telling that so many here will cry, whine, and complain
> about how slow play is on their favorite course, but then clutter a golf
> newsgroup with off-topic discussion.
>

The difference is that here you can always play through.

It sounds to me like you're getting waved through and are still
bitching about it.
Maybe you should worry less about the other people on the course and
just play your own ball. Some people always gotta be hatin.



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 05:50:10
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Winter is just around the corner ....



"R&B" wrote:
> > >
> > Is Trophy Club blooming?
>
>
> Yeah, it's really beautiful right now. Plus, the greens have come back.
> They were in horrible shape only about 2 months ago (they'd lost them to
> some fungal infection earlier this year).
>

Probably too much mustard dripping from your cheeseburgers.