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Date: 21 Oct 2006 23:02:24
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


Well it's really pretty simple actually. When you participate all year with
people who give you feed back on stuff like:
Why can't I break 100?
Why can't I break 90?
Do you think Mo Norman had any good ideas?
Is Tiger good for golf?
Hey Natalie, are those real?

And you actually read and respond to the crap that gets laid down here, day
in and day out.....

Who else are you gonna bounce politics off? Some right wing or left wing nut
job news groups? Or someone who knows what it's like to have >35 putts in a
round?
Someone who can consistently hit the ball >250 yard off the tee but hits the
fairway <50% of the time?

Someone who knows what a snowman is (in July) or some political hack?

So you dingdongs who keep blasting the OT political posts (Mike Dalecki, for
one) just lighten up. Tis the season.....

Now any of you nut jobs who even think of voting for a democrat... what the
F*#k is wrong with you?

Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!

New Orleans would be OK but all the rift raft from there are still here in
Houston (one year later)..............

Can we get Osama to target Hyannis, MA? That would be soooo awesome!!!






 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 17:03:01
From: Rex
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote in message
news:4Gx_g.427$GR2.191@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Well it's really pretty simple actually. When you participate all year
> with people who give you feed back on stuff like:
> Why can't I break 100?
> Why can't I break 90?
> Do you think Mo Norman had any good ideas?
> Is Tiger good for golf?
> Hey Natalie, are those real?
>
> And you actually read and respond to the crap that gets laid down here,
> day in and day out.....
>
> Who else are you gonna bounce politics off? Some right wing or left wing
> nut job news groups? Or someone who knows what it's like to have >35 putts
> in a round?
> Someone who can consistently hit the ball >250 yard off the tee but hits
> the fairway <50% of the time?
>
> Someone who knows what a snowman is (in July) or some political hack?
>
> So you dingdongs who keep blasting the OT political posts (Mike Dalecki,
> for one) just lighten up. Tis the season.....
>
> Now any of you nut jobs who even think of voting for a democrat... what
> the F*#k is wrong with you?
>
> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!
>
> New Orleans would be OK but all the rift raft from there are still here in
> Houston (one year later)..............
>
> Can we get Osama to target Hyannis, MA? That would be soooo awesome!!!

From what I read here in a golf newsgroup I would think all you Yanks were
crass and self centred. However I know a couple of Americans who are
different so you all can't be this bad.

Rex




  
Date: 22 Oct 2006 06:42:07
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



"Rex" <rexroh@gmail.com > wrote in message news:eheqhp$dgr$1@aioe.org...
>
> From what I read here in a golf newsgroup I would think all you Yanks were
> crass and self centred. However I know a couple of Americans who are
> different so you all can't be this bad.
>

Most Americans I know are both crass and self-centered. Some are more crass
than self-centered, some vice versa, some with a double dose of both. As
I'm born and bred in the USofA, I've known a lot of them.

I think it is much easier for an American to love a fellow American than for
an outsider to do so. It's easier to forgive someone for what their culture
has made of them if you understand that culture a bit. If there's no
cultural overlap, faults tend to be accenuated. For that matter, virtues
begin to look like faults if the cultures are far enough apart. As an
example, the French tell me how wonderful they are. Due to cultural
differences and snooty accents, I see that as proof enough that they are
wrong.

Scott





 
Date: 21 Oct 2006 20:38:29
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



Brian Foster wrote:
<Snippage >
> Can we get Osama to target Hyannis, MA? That would be soooo awesome!!!

Again, you apparently did not read Dalecki's treatise on keeping this
NG Politico free.



 
Date: 21 Oct 2006 21:34:30
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


Brian Foster wrote:
> Why can't I break 100?
> Why can't I break 90?

I shot a 91 yesterday and shot a 41 today on the front nine. I just wanna
hug my PGA Pro; who has been working with me for the past 2 months now.


> Someone who knows what a snowman is...

Falcon's best friend?


> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to
> nuke!


Vote Libertarian; and buy as many weapons and as much ammo as you can
possibly afford.



> Can we get Osama to target Hyannis, MA? That would be soooo
> awesome!!!

Can we get all the ex wives in America to move there the day before?



--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson




 
Date: 21 Oct 2006 17:47:42
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



Brian Foster wrote:
>
> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!

Hey dumbass, they only attack us when the Repugs are asleep at the
wheel.
Two more years of this regime and you might even lose your right to
post your bullshit here.



  
Date: 22 Oct 2006 01:03:36
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


On 21 2006 17:47:42 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:

>
>Brian Foster wrote:
>>
>> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!
>
>Hey dumbass, they only attack us when the Repugs are asleep at the
>wheel.

Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
administration and before 2001.

I'm a republican and will always be a republican as long as there are
liberals like you. So keep on polluting this NG with your political
rants, all it does is drive me further to the right.....




David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


   
Date: 21 Oct 2006 22:49:33
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:8eglj2d4v02ejtalil6qbkli9k942dpb82@4ax.com...
> On 21 2006 17:47:42 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Brian Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!
>>
>>Hey dumbass, they only attack us when the Repugs are asleep at the
>>wheel.
>
> Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
> World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
> person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
> administration and before 2001.
>
> I'm a republican and will always be a republican as long as there are
> liberals like you. So keep on polluting this NG with your political
> rants, all it does is drive me further to the right.....
>
>

Not many have what you have --- not many want it.


>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982




   
Date: 21 Oct 2006 19:07:31
From: multi
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


On Sun, 22 2006 01:03:36 GMT, David Laville
<dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
>Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
>World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
>person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
>administration and before 2001.

Proof of conservative selective memory. Yes, it was before 2001 ---
8.5 years before 9/11, in fact, and yet Bushites bray about Bush
keeping us safe for all of five years (actually, they were doing it
only a couple of years after 9/11). And yes, it was during the
Clinton administration --- one month after he took office. And yet
the Bushites bray about how 9/11 was all Clinton's fault, since it
happened only eight months into the Bush admin.

Not mentioned, but also relevant --- under Clinton, the people
responsible for the first WTC attack were quickly captured, tried, and
convicted, without degrading our liberties. Bush lost interest in Bin
Laden within six months, which is why he's still free, five years
later. And as a bonus, Bush's invasion of Iraq has made being an al
Qaeda recruiter the easiest job in the world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRY_BOYeySc


    
Date: 21 Oct 2006 22:42:26
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


multi wrote:
> On Sun, 22 2006 01:03:36 GMT, David Laville
> <dlaville@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
>> World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the
>> smartest person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the
>> Clinton administration and before 2001.
>
> Proof of conservative selective memory. Yes, it was before 2001 ---
> 8.5 years before 9/11, in fact, and yet Bushites bray about Bush
> keeping us safe for all of five years (actually, they were doing it
> only a couple of years after 9/11). And yes, it was during the
> Clinton administration --- one month after he took office. And yet
> the Bushites bray about how 9/11 was all Clinton's fault, since it
> happened only eight months into the Bush admin.


I cannot decide which is more pathetic - Republicans or Democrats. You
each make a strong effort to win the title of most pathetic political party;
but yet nobody is a clear winner / loser. Well, the clear loser are the
Americans that have to live in this country while you criminal scumbags shit
on the US Constitution.



--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson




     
Date: 22 Oct 2006 13:44:45
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


On Sat, 21 2006 22:42:26 -0400, "Head Shot"
<HeadShot@TakeTheShot.kgb > wrote:

>I cannot decide which is more pathetic - Republicans or Democrats. You
>each make a strong effort to win the title of most pathetic political party;
>but yet nobody is a clear winner / loser. Well, the clear loser are the
>Americans that have to live in this country while you criminal scumbags shit
>on the US Constitution.

They have spent a lot of money to convince us that their opponents are
scum bags. They succeeded.


     
Date: 23 Oct 2006 00:55:53
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



On 21--2006, "Head Shot" <HeadShot@TakeTheShot.kgb > wrote:

> I cannot decide which is more pathetic - Republicans or Democrats. You
> each make a strong effort to win the title of most pathetic political
> party; but yet nobody is a clear winner / loser. Well, the clear loser
> are the
>
> Americans that have to live in this country while you criminal scumbags
> shit on the US Constitution.


However combinations or associations of the above description [political
parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the
course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning,
ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the
people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying
afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

- George Washington 1796
--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.


      
Date: 23 Oct 2006 21:37:10
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


bill-o wrote:
> However combinations or associations of the above description
> [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are
> likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines,
> by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to
> subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins
> of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have
> lifted them to unjust dominion.
>
> - George Washington 1796


Yeah. What he said.


--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson




   
Date: 22 Oct 2006 15:49:56
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


David Laville <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
: On 21 2006 17:47:42 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
: wrote:
:
: >
: >Brian Foster wrote:
: >>
: >> Vote Republican or decide which US city you want the terrorist to nuke!
: >
: >Hey dumbass, they only attack us when the Repugs are asleep at the
: >wheel.
:
: Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
: World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
: person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
: administration and before 2001.

So why does Bush get to blame 9/11 on Clinton despite having
been in office for nearly nine months, while Clinton has to
take the blame for the original WTC bombing though he had been
in office only 39 days?

Maybe you're the wrong guy to ask, maybe you don't blame both
on Clinton. But many do.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/


 
Date: 21 Oct 2006 18:06:25
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


On Sat, 21 2006 23:02:24 GMT, "Brian Foster"
<brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote:

Because of idiots like you.


 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 15:50:38
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


Brian Foster <brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote:

: Can we get Osama to target Hyannis, MA? That would be soooo awesome!!!

In case anybody was wondering which party was on the side of
the terrorists, there's your answer.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/


 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 15:10:40
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


In article <4Gx_g.427$GR2.191@tornado.texas.rr.com >
"Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com > wrote:

Because after 6 years, there are still those stupid enough to think that
Bush is a rock. He is.........just a little dumber. Oh, btw, your post
was OT too and not identified as such.




  
Date: 22 Oct 2006 11:53:00
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


tiggerspalewife wrote:
> In article <4Gx_g.427$GR2.191@tornado.texas.rr.com>
> "Brian Foster" <brianfoster@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Because after 6 years, there are still those stupid enough to think that
> Bush is a rock. He is.........just a little dumber. Oh, btw, your post
> was OT too and not identified as such.

Still whining?


   
Date: 22 Oct 2006 16:08:14
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


In article <SrCdnWXw0I5ADqbYnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com >
Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > wrote:

Still in denial? Still with your head up your ass? Still think the repugs
are the party of morality? No need to answer. All rhetorical and the
answers are obvious. Enjoy your rose colored day and breathe
deeply....that's your colon you're smelling.




 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 08:18:51
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


Thanks for the advice Brian.

Now go drink Drano.



 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 19:20:12
From: Indiana_John
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


> I'm all for tough.
>
> Unfortunately, I'm also all for smarts, something this president has shown a
> decided lack of.

You got it. President Gump.



 
Date: 22 Oct 2006 17:39:43
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



annika1980 wrote:
> Liberal philosophy: You got yours ... let me get mine.
> Conservative philosophy: I got mine ..... fuck you.

More like:
Liberal philosphy: You got yours, they got theirs, let's take half of
it and give it to those that don't have theirs yet.
Conservative philosophy: Get yours, you'll appreciate it more rather
than being handed something for nothing.

Now back to golf...remember what that is? It's when you'd shoot your
mouth off and actually have something to back it up with. Try getting
that back.

Tex



  
Date: 22 Oct 2006 21:39:14
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


"Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote ...
>
> annika1980 wrote:
>> Liberal philosophy: You got yours ... let me get mine.
>> Conservative philosophy: I got mine ..... fuck you.
>
> More like:
> Liberal philosphy: You got yours, they got theirs, let's take half of
> it and give it to those that don't have theirs yet.


Which is another way of saying what Annika just said. You got yours. Now
don't take any of it.


> Conservative philosophy: Get yours, you'll appreciate it more rather
> than being handed something for nothing.



Which is another way of saying what Annika just said. Get yours. But don't
expect me to help you get it.


And they call these "moral values?"

Randy




  
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 16:59:36
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?



David Laville wrote:
> Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
> World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
> person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
> administration and before 2001.
>
> I'm a republican and will always be a republican as long as there are
> liberals like you.

Like you said, you ain't the smartest person in the world.
So what is a liberal, anyway?

Definitions of liberal:

broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political
stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper";
"tolerant of his opponent's opinions"
having political or social views favoring reform and progress
tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or
tradition
a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and
the protection of civil liberties
big: given or giving freely;

Yeah, that's me!

I've always figured that a liberal is someone who wants change while a
conservative wants to keep things as they are. If this is true, there
are a whole lotta liberals in the US right now.
I can't remember a time when we've needed change more than now.

Liberal philosophy: You got yours ... let me get mine.
Conservative philosophy: I got mine ..... fuck you.



  
Date: 22 Oct 2006 22:02:17
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote ...
>
> David Laville wrote:
>> Proof of liberal selective memory. Did you forget about the first
>> World Trade Center bombing on February 26, 1993? I'm not the smartest
>> person in the world but I do know 1993 was during the Clinton
>> administration and before 2001.
>>
>> I'm a republican and will always be a republican as long as there are
>> liberals like you.
>
> Like you said, you ain't the smartest person in the world.
> So what is a liberal, anyway?
>
> Definitions of liberal:
>
> broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political
> stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper";
> "tolerant of his opponent's opinions"
> having political or social views favoring reform and progress
> tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or
> tradition
> a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and
> the protection of civil liberties
> big: given or giving freely;
>
> Yeah, that's me!
>
> I've always figured that a liberal is someone who wants change while a
> conservative wants to keep things as they are. If this is true, there
> are a whole lotta liberals in the US right now.
> I can't remember a time when we've needed change more than now.
>
> Liberal philosophy: You got yours ... let me get mine.
> Conservative philosophy: I got mine ..... fuck you.



I remember after the Iran hostage crisis of 1980, as radio stations were
rallying to the flag by playing the song "Bomb-Bomb-Bomb, Bomb-Bomb Iran"
(sung to the tune of the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann"), a friend of mine
observed that what America really wanted was to elect John Wayne president.
Unfortunately, the Duke had died a few years earlier, so they voted in the
next best thing -- Ronnie Ray-Gun.

While I'm no fan of Reagan, he did, at least, unify much of the country, as
evidenced by his landslide elections. And even most of us on the left will
acknowledge that he restored dignity to the presidency, even if we didn't
agree with some of what he did.

Once again, America's machismo came to the front during the aftermath of
9/11, and understandably so. Having a tough-talkin' cowboy in the White
House was -- well, it was just like having John Wayne as president.
Americans like their presidents tough as nails.

I'm all for tough.

Unfortunately, I'm also all for smarts, something this president has shown a
decided lack of.

Those who voted for him share in the responsibility for the mess he's caused
in Iraq and the rest of the world.

But unlike Reagan, he's proven unable to unite Americans. He has, however,
managed to unite the world against us. Considering all the pro-America
empathy that was pouring forth from most corners of the world after 9/11,
that has taken some real doing.

You Republicans must be very proud. But I wonder: Given what we know, how
can you possibly defend this guy today? It truly is mind-boggling to
consider the widespread failures.

Randy




   
Date: 23 Oct 2006 05:05:49
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why do we keep getting these OT poltical posts?


"\"R&B\"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:

: While I'm no fan of Reagan, he did, at least, unify much of the country, as
: evidenced by his landslide elections.

This is a common perception, but he got only 50.7% of the popular
vote in 1980, not even close to a landslide majority.

Also, FWIW, Bill Clinton left office more popular than did Reagan.
(Not that he was popular with me, neither were, but the narrative
about Reagan's great popularity is largely a media creation.)

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/