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Date: 04 Sep 2006 14:01:31
From: gp
Subject: Tiger - a "true" 1-Planer?
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I don't think he is. He stands moderately close to the ball with his irons. I just noticed that today whilst watching him on #16 today. Jim Hardy's "1-Plane-Swing" has the Gopher standing far away from the ball and hunched over (to promote a flat plane). El Tigre still has a nice, upright posture. I'd say TW is somewhere "in between" the 2-Planer and 1-Planer, but defintely flatter with Haney's swing versus his 2000 Harmon swing. He and Vijay (considered a 1-planer), look very similar at the top of their backswing.
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Date: 05 Sep 2006 02:57:25
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Tiger - a "true" 1-Planer?
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gp wrote: > I don't think he is. He stands moderately close to the ball with his > irons. I just noticed that today whilst watching him on #16 today. Agreed. 1-planers like to include him in their group, but his swing is different. What do you think about Zach Johnson=B4s swing? F
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Date: 05 Sep 2006 23:06:52
From: Dave Clary
Subject: Re: Tiger - a "true" 1-Planer?
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On 5 Sep 2006 02:57:25 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: > >gp wrote: >> I don't think he is. He stands moderately close to the ball with his >> irons. I just noticed that today whilst watching him on #16 today. > >Agreed. 1-planers like to include him in their group, but his swing is >different. What do you think about Zach Johnson´s swing? F As I stated in an earlier post, I think you would be hard-pressed to find a "true one-planer" where the plane the shaft swings on and that the shoulders turn on were exactly parallel. But it's pretty clear from pictures I've seen of Tiger's swing, and Haney's published material, that is much more in the one-plane camp than the two-plane. But Tiger is also great at hitting various shots to produce different trajectories and shape. The example cited above on #16 was relatively short (for Tiger -- pitifully short for RSG) six-iron--something like 175 IIRC. I think it was a couple holes prior that he hit something like a 210 yard six-iron. My distances may be off but the point is he hit very different shots with the same club, and standing that close to the ball for one of them may have been part of the technique involved in pulling the shot off. Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx Home: http://davidclary.com Kinky for Texas Gov "Why The Hell Not"
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Date: 05 Sep 2006 21:13:54
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Tiger - a "true" 1-Planer?
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Dave Clary wrote: > On 5 Sep 2006 02:57:25 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >gp wrote: > >> I don't think he is. He stands moderately close to the ball with his > >> irons. I just noticed that today whilst watching him on #16 today. > > > >Agreed. 1-planers like to include him in their group, but his swing is > >different. What do you think about Zach Johnson=B4s swing? F > > As I stated in an earlier post, I think you would be hard-pressed to > find a "true one-planer" where the plane the shaft swings on and that > the shoulders turn on were exactly parallel. But it's pretty clear > from pictures I've seen of Tiger's swing, and Haney's published > material, that is much more in the one-plane camp than the two-plane. > But Tiger is also great at hitting various shots to produce different > trajectories and shape. The example cited above on #16 was relatively > short (for Tiger -- pitifully short for RSG) six-iron--something like > 175 IIRC. I think it was a couple holes prior that he hit something > like a 210 yard six-iron. My distances may be off but the point is he > hit very different shots with the same club, and standing that close > to the ball for one of them may have been part of the technique > involved in pulling the shot off. > I like TW's rationale for flattening his swing. A two plane (his original) swing relied too much on timing. Giving that timing has never been my strong suit, in RSG or in golf, I appreciate all the instruction re. the one plane swing. Heck....I've even been reading and practicing some Hogan (filtered by Leadbetter's excellent book). -Greg
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