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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:02:06
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: The Whippy
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I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
I'll try it out.
It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
thought.
I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
it stays right on plane.
I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
though you might have a little flip in your swing.
So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
still there next time I go.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 23:10:52
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Carbon wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:50:09 -0500, Head Shot wrote:
>> Dene wrote:
>
>>> So who controls Hillary?
>>
>> My sum experience with Senator Clinton is that she has oversight on
>> the Vaccine Ordering and Disbursement System (VODS) and the Pandemic
>> Management System (PanFlu). These Senators and Congressmen only
>> oversee these specific Government initiatives due to being part of
>> the Senate Health Committee (which now includes Senator Kennedy). I
>> am not a Democrat, and therefore I have no idea what organizations
>> and other initiatives Senator Clinton supports; or what
>> corporations have assisted her with her Legislative career.
>
> I'm glad you're open-minded enough to acknowledge her abilities even
> though her beliefs may differ from your own. Most folks here are not
> particularly talented in that regard.
You will find that I *rarely* agree with Democrats and Republicans (they
always want to spend my money and take away my toys); but Senator Clinton
is probably one of the most accomplished First Ladies to have ever lived.
She will also soon become the first female in the Executive Office; and I
think she will do many things for this country that far surpass the sad
effort Bushtard made.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 09:09:18
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Head Shot wrote:
> Carbon wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:50:09 -0500, Head Shot wrote:
>>> Dene wrote:
>>>> So who controls Hillary?
>>> My sum experience with Senator Clinton is that she has oversight on
>>> the Vaccine Ordering and Disbursement System (VODS) and the Pandemic
>>> Management System (PanFlu). These Senators and Congressmen only
>>> oversee these specific Government initiatives due to being part of
>>> the Senate Health Committee (which now includes Senator Kennedy). I
>>> am not a Democrat, and therefore I have no idea what organizations
>>> and other initiatives Senator Clinton supports; or what
>>> corporations have assisted her with her Legislative career.
>> I'm glad you're open-minded enough to acknowledge her abilities even
>> though her beliefs may differ from your own. Most folks here are not
>> particularly talented in that regard.
>
> You will find that I *rarely* agree with Democrats and Republicans (they
> always want to spend my money and take away my toys); but Senator Clinton
> is probably one of the most accomplished First Ladies to have ever lived.
> She will also soon become the first female in the Executive Office; and I
> think she will do many things for this country that far surpass the sad
> effort Bushtard made.
Just wait until she is on the campaign trail and has to speak
extemporaneously. She will take her large feet and shove both of them
into here mouth at the same time over and over and over again.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:56:59
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> Just wait until she is on the campaign trail and has to speak
> extemporaneously. She will take her large feet and shove both of them
> into here mouth at the same time over and over and over again.
Worse than when Bushtard fields questions about his coke-whore youth?
At any rate; yeah - we shall see how she handles the Presidential Candidacy
limelight soon enough. I think she is a brilliant person and will most
probably do just fine.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:39:16
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On 19 Nov 2006 06:20:04 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>Bert Robbins wrote:
>> >
>> Just wait until she is on the campaign trail and has to speak
>> extemporaneously. She will take her large feet and shove both of them
>> into here mouth at the same time over and over and over again.
>
>Didn't seem to hurt Bush.
Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary. What Bush has going for
him is that he comes off as genuine. When Hillary tries to put any
emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly. In this respect,
she's very much like Al Gore.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:00:07
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Jack Hollis wrote:
> Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary.
Debatable.
> What Bush has going for
> him is that he comes off as genuine.
Agreed. But add to that his genetics (daddy was a well loved President and
VP)
> When Hillary tries to put any
> emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly.
Debatable; but you could be correct. I am sure she will work on it; as
will her staff. What Senator Clinton has going for her is that she is
extremely well loved among New Yorkers and many Special Interest Groups, as
well as female voters (that's roughly 50% of the voters or thereabouts,
no?). If Senator Clinton runs for President; she will win handily against
many of the morons the Republican Party will put forth. Perhaps not all of
them; but Gingrich or McCain wouldn't have a shot against her; and I view
them as the front runners right now.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 18:58:35
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Head Shot wrote:
> Jack Hollis wrote:
>
>>Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary.
>
>
> Debatable.
>
>
>
>>What Bush has going for
>>him is that he comes off as genuine.
>
>
> Agreed. But add to that his genetics (daddy was a well loved President and
> VP)
>
>
>>When Hillary tries to put any
>>emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly.
>
>
> Debatable; but you could be correct. I am sure she will work on it; as
> will her staff. What Senator Clinton has going for her is that she is
> extremely well loved among New Yorkers and many Special Interest Groups, as
> well as female voters (that's roughly 50% of the voters or thereabouts,
> no?).
Clinton is NOT "loved" by the NY crowd as you want to put it. She is
loved by the Handout and Gimme crowd. Once you are out of NYC and
Albany the broad doesn't do very well in the counties. She is a
panderer. Do you have any clue as to what she has accomplished, or
better yet what she has not accomplished as Senator from NY? She has
maintained a very low legislative profile, purely to avoid any possible
clash with what ever stance she will need for her presidential run.
Here in NY the people who aren't part of the Handout and Gimme party
know exactly who Hillary is.
As an aside to comment on another thread of yours, New York is not a
microcosm of the US. It IS closer to being a microcosm of the world
though. And we know how Europe, Middle east and Asia are thinking these
days.
If Senator Clinton runs for President; she will win handily against
> many of the morons the Republican Party will put forth.
Maybe / maybe not. There is a good chance that she won't run. After
all, she is the "smartest woman on the planet" and should be able to see
what the nation needs.
Perhaps not all of
> them; but Gingrich or McCain wouldn't have a shot against her; and I view
> them as the front runners right now.
You are right, they don't have a shot, but I hardly expect them to be
the actual candidates.
Joe
>
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 18:58:17
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Head Shot wrote:
> Jack Hollis wrote:
>
>>Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary.
>
>
> Debatable.
>
>
>
>>What Bush has going for
>>him is that he comes off as genuine.
>
>
> Agreed. But add to that his genetics (daddy was a well loved President and
> VP)
>
>
>>When Hillary tries to put any
>>emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly.
>
>
> Debatable; but you could be correct. I am sure she will work on it; as
> will her staff. What Senator Clinton has going for her is that she is
> extremely well loved among New Yorkers and many Special Interest Groups, as
> well as female voters (that's roughly 50% of the voters or thereabouts,
> no?).
Clinton is NOT "loved" by the NY crowd as you want to put it. She is
loved by the Handout and Gimme crowd. Once you are out of NYC and
Albany the broad doesn't do very well in the counties. She is a
panderer. Do you have any clue as to what she has accomplished, or
better yet what she has not accomplished as Senator from NY? She has
maintained a very low legislative profile, purely to avoid any possible
clash with what ever stance she will need for her presidential run.
Here in NY the people who aren't part of the Handout and Gimme party
know exactly who Hillary is.
As an aside to comment on another thread of yours, New York is not a
microcosm of the US. It IS closer to being a microcosm of the world
though. And we know how Europe, Middle east and Asia are thinking these
days.
If Senator Clinton runs for President; she will win handily against
> many of the morons the Republican Party will put forth.
Maybe / maybe not. There is a good chance that she won't run. After
all, she is the "smartest woman on the planet" and should be able to see
what the nation needs.
Perhaps not all of
> them; but Gingrich or McCain wouldn't have a shot against her; and I view
> them as the front runners right now.
You are right, they don't have a shot, but I hardly expect them to be
the actual candidates.
Joe
>
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 14:21:04
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Joe wrote:
> Clinton is NOT "loved" by the NY crowd as you want to put it. She is
> loved by the Handout and Gimme crowd. Once you are out of NYC and
> Albany the broad doesn't do very well in the counties. She is a
> panderer. Do you have any clue as to what she has accomplished, or
> better yet what she has not accomplished as Senator from NY? She has
> maintained a very low legislative profile, purely to avoid any
> possible clash with what ever stance she will need for her
> presidential run.
1) False. No polls break out anything by "handout and gimme crowd" as you
like to refer to eligible voters in NY State. That having been said, the
reality is that Senator Clinton got 2,811,981 votes and John Spencer got
1,320,571 votes. For every vote your loser Spencer got, Hillary got more
than two. A huge landslide. I don't know for sure what you mean by
"handout and gimme" but do you dislike minorities? I feel you are saying
that without really commiting to using the "N" word.
2) I personally know TWO things she accomplished; and I continue to work
on those projects 60 hours per week. How many of Senator Clinton's
projects do you work on? It is apparent that you are a Republican with an
agenda.
3) You apparently do not know what she has accomplished; but you could
start educating yourself from her website most probably.
http://clinton.senate.gov/ The work she has done with 9/11 responders
shows where her heart is. She was also a great First Lady before becoming a
two-time Senator. She championed some things as First Lady that are
important to me and my family.
> Here in NY the people who aren't part of the Handout and Gimme party
> know exactly who Hillary is.
NY born and bred here. Do you contend that 75% of American voters are
"Handout and gimme" voters?
> As an aside to comment on another thread of yours, New York is not a
> microcosm of the US. It IS closer to being a microcosm of the world
> though. And we know how Europe, Middle east and Asia are thinking
> these days.
NY is most definitely a microcosm of the USA; representing all of the races
and religions that exist in every other State. It also has great corporate
wealth, many academic institutions of note, and a massive scientific
community. I guess all of those people working in those arenas are the
"handout and gimme" crowd?
> Maybe / maybe not. There is a good chance that she won't run. After
> all, she is the "smartest woman on the planet" and should be able to
> see what the nation needs.
The United States needs someone with the integrity and concern for the
health of the country that Hilary Clinton would bring to the Executive
Office. Right now the EO has a cocaine and alcohol abuser that cannot even
put together an intelligent thought and share it with the nation if his life
depended on it. His oil greed has caused the death of 3,000+ of my fellow
military personnel. I would be ashamed to have that moron as my Commander
in Chief; and am glad I only served Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton. I
would resign my commission if I had to work for our current President.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 22:09:19
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Head Shot wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
>>Clinton is NOT "loved" by the NY crowd as you want to put it. She is
>>loved by the Handout and Gimme crowd. Once you are out of NYC and
>>Albany the broad doesn't do very well in the counties. She is a
>>panderer. Do you have any clue as to what she has accomplished, or
>>better yet what she has not accomplished as Senator from NY? She has
>>maintained a very low legislative profile, purely to avoid any
>>possible clash with what ever stance she will need for her
>>presidential run.
>
>
> 1) False. No polls break out anything by "handout and gimme crowd" as you
> like to refer to eligible voters in NY State. That having been said, the
> reality is that Senator Clinton got 2,811,981 votes and John Spencer got
> 1,320,571 votes. For every vote your loser Spencer got, Hillary got more
> than two. A huge landslide. I don't know for sure what you mean by
> "handout and gimme" but do you dislike minorities? I feel you are saying
> that without really commiting to using the "N" word.
Absolutely true. The numbers are the numbers. I do find it interesting
that you chose the race card.
I neither like or dislike minorities, they are just people. You on the
other hand are choosing to sort by stereotype. You know exactly what I
mean by the handout and gimme crowd. All those people who take the
position that the government owes them, that want to let someone else
pay their way to the font of the line instead of earning the position.
They come in all colors, religions, ethnic backgrounds and citizenship
status. You are the closet racist.
>
> 2) I personally know TWO things she accomplished; and I continue to work
> on those projects 60 hours per week.
And those two things are? What legislation has she introduced?
How many of Senator Clinton's
> projects do you work on?
Why would I want to? She is the best example of what this country
doesn't need.
It is apparent that you are a Republican with an
> agenda.
Wrong! I am someone who can think for himself.
>
> 3) You apparently do not know what she has accomplished; but you could
> start educating yourself from her website most probably.
> http://clinton.senate.gov/ The work she has done with 9/11 responders
> shows where her heart is. She was also a great First Lady before becoming a
> two-time Senator. She championed some things as First Lady that are
> important to me and my family.
BFD. Every position that she takes is Mom and Apple Pie.
>>Here in NY the people who aren't part of the Handout and Gimme party
>>know exactly who Hillary is.
>
>
> NY born and bred here. Do you contend that 75% of American voters are
> "Handout and gimme" voters?
How did you get from the NY run to 75% of American voters? Or is this
another example of Democrat education.
>>As an aside to comment on another thread of yours, New York is not a
>>microcosm of the US. It IS closer to being a microcosm of the world
>>though. And we know how Europe, Middle east and Asia are thinking
>>these days.
>
>
> NY is most definitely a microcosm of the USA; representing all of the races
> and religions that exist in every other State. It also has great corporate
> wealth, many academic institutions of note, and a massive scientific
> community. I guess all of those people working in those arenas are the
> "handout and gimme" crowd?
Good job at twisting facts to suit the outcome you want. New York,
California, Florida and Massachusetts are not representative of the US
as a whole.
>>Maybe / maybe not. There is a good chance that she won't run. After
>>all, she is the "smartest woman on the planet" and should be able to
>>see what the nation needs.
>
>
> The United States needs someone with the integrity and concern for the
> health of the country that Hilary Clinton would bring to the Executive
> Office.
Integrity? Clinton? Concern for the nation? Same sentence. Give us
a break. Hillary has one objective and concern and that is to get elected.
Right now the EO has a cocaine and alcohol abuser that cannot even
> put together an intelligent thought and share it with the nation if his life
> depended on it. His oil greed has caused the death of 3,000+ of my fellow
> military personnel. I would be ashamed to have that moron as my Commander
> in Chief; and am glad I only served Reagan, Bush I, and Clinton. I
> would resign my commission if I had to work for our current President.
Talk about agenda and party talking points!
Joe
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 17:32:39
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Joe wrote:
> Absolutely true. The numbers are the numbers. I do find it
> interesting that you chose the race card.
I am just being frank about how I feel, Joe. As soon as you said "handout
and gimme people" it stunk of racism. Don't think so - check
StormFront.org. That's how racists view Blacks and other minorities - as a
drain on society.
> You know exactly
> what I mean by the handout and gimme crowd.
I sure do, Herr Joe Skinhead.
> You are the closet racist.
Yeah - I am the closet Jewish racist that has mostly African American
friends and family. Stick to your KKK rallies; you are not impressing me.
In fact, I don't even care to hear any more of your [thinly veiled]
racist comments. ^K
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 00:15:14
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Head Shot wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
>>Absolutely true. The numbers are the numbers. I do find it
>>interesting that you chose the race card.
>
>
> I am just being frank about how I feel, Joe. As soon as you said "handout
> and gimme people" it stunk of racism. Don't think so - check
> StormFront.org. That's how racists view Blacks and other minorities - as a
> drain on society.
Knee jerk reaction on your part chief.
Do you suggest that we, in the US do NOT have a population segment that
is a drain on society. Think this time.
Is Bill Cosby a racist?
>
>>You know exactly
>>what I mean by the handout and gimme crowd.
>
>
> I sure do, Herr Joe Skinhead.
>
Is John F. Kennedy a skinhead?
"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you: Ask what
you can do for your country."
>>You are the closet racist.
>
>
> Yeah - I am the closet Jewish racist that has mostly African American
> friends and family. Stick to your KKK rallies; you are not impressing me.
> In fact, I don't even care to hear any more of your [thinly veiled]
> racist comments. ^K
I don't give a rats butt what you what or don't want to hear. You
brought the BS into the thread and have been unable to resist name
calling and other tactics of the intellectually challenged.
I described a behavior pattern in my original post. That behavior is a
cross cultural phenomenon and I have repeatedly made that point.
As a matter of fact, since you are a "born and bred New Yorker" I would
suggest that you explain to this group the behavior of the residents
Kiryas Joel.
Joe
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:16:42
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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In article <ofu0m2tiap7ulk2eomo2vkr9rrssa60ns8@4ax.com >,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote:
> On 19 Nov 2006 06:20:04 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Bert Robbins wrote:
> >> >
> >> Just wait until she is on the campaign trail and has to speak
> >> extemporaneously. She will take her large feet and shove both of them
> >> into here mouth at the same time over and over and over again.
> >
> >Didn't seem to hurt Bush.
>
> Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary. What Bush has going for
> him is that he comes off as genuine. When Hillary tries to put any
> emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly. In this respect,
> she's very much like Al Gore.
Genuine Texas BS you mean.
Like "I'm a uniter, not a divider" which certainly wasn't and isn't true.
And I'm still waiting to see what the hell 'compassionate conservative'
is.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:02:13
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> And I'm still waiting to see what the hell 'compassionate
> conservative' is.
I am waiting for him to be honest about how his daddy had his arrest and
record destroyed with regard to his blow-hound lifestyle. And I am left
to wonder if he is still a coke-head and alcoholic; because his behaviour
sometimes is indicative of that issue remaining a part of his life. *
* Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous posit the view that once a
drug or alcohol abuser; always a drug or alcohol abuser.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:30:26
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:16:42 -0500, Lloyd Parsons
<lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote:
>> Bush is a better public speaker than Hillary. What Bush has going for
>> him is that he comes off as genuine. When Hillary tries to put any
>> emotion into her speeches, it comes off poorly. In this respect,
>> she's very much like Al Gore.
>
>Genuine Texas BS you mean.
Some people have the ability to project themselves to an audience.
Clinton certainly had that skill and so does Bush. It's the sense of
being genuine. Hillary lacks any emotion when she speaks and when she
tries to put some in her speeches, it doesn't come off very well. The
same was true of Al Gore. You have to wonder what will happen if
Hillary wins the nomination and people see her speeches on TV day
after day for months.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:03:35
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Jack Hollis wrote:
> Some people have the ability to project themselves to an audience.
> Clinton certainly had that skill and so does Bush. It's the sense of
> being genuine. Hillary lacks any emotion when she speaks and when she
> tries to put some in her speeches, it doesn't come off very well. The
> same was true of Al Gore. You have to wonder what will happen if
> Hillary wins the nomination and people see her speeches on TV day
> after day for months.
1) Her husband will work on that with her as she prepares for the Executive
Office.
2) She is genuine and when she speaks at events she is well recieved.
3) She was genuine enough to win the adoration of NY; which is a tough
crowd.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 15:53:57
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Senator Clinton has become very selective about appearing before friendly
crowds.
She is an opportunistic carpetbagger who was elected to the Senate from New
York before she ever paid the first nickel of NY income taxes.
"Head Shot" <HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote in message
news:K%08h.8298$r6.1905@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> 1) Her husband will work on that with her as she prepares for the
> Executive Office.
> 2) She is genuine and when she speaks at events she is well recieved.
> 3) She was genuine enough to win the adoration of NY; which is a tough
> crowd.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 17:25:23
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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sfb wrote:
> Senator Clinton has become very selective about appearing before
> friendly crowds.
>
> She is an opportunistic carpetbagger who was elected to the Senate
> from New York before she ever paid the first nickel of NY income
> taxes.
What - you have to be from NYC to be a good Senator? Becuase 90% of the
Senators from NY didn't grow up or live there. Most live in Fairfield
County CT (at best) or Westchester County (at worst). I don't care if she
lives on Mars as long as she is taking care of her constituents. And so
far she has done a great job; as indicated by how bad she spanked the
Republican two weeks ago by a 2.5 to 1 margin.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:36:47
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:03:35 -0500, "Head Shot"
<HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote:
>3) She was genuine enough to win the adoration of NY; which is a tough
>crowd.
Yep, she is a genuine city woman. Rural folk tend to not identify
with city folk and visa versa. GWB won virtually all of the rural
counties and lost most of the urban counties. She needs to win rural
counties to win.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 02:11:23
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:mic1m2thm5ld09cn27qvc9i8omiqqjitc2@4ax.com...
>
> Yep, she is a genuine city woman. Rural folk tend to not identify
> with city folk and visa versa. GWB won virtually all of the rural
> counties and lost most of the urban counties. She needs to win rural
> counties to win.
My understanding is that she polls very well throughout the state. Job
approval ratings for NYC is around 61%; upstate NY is about 47%. Not too
shabby. If the rural areas are her weak point, then New York senatorial
polls seem to indicate that it ain't much of a weakness.
Her real difficulty will be bringing that dog and pony show onto the
national stage. Her numbers in NY reflect the fact that she seems to have
done an excellent job representing NY interests in the Senate. That doesn't
carry any water in OH or rural PA. Outside of NY, she's only got her
national persona to work with, and that's problematic. In areas that lean
conservative, she's DOA (job approval and just about every other indicator
for registered Republicans in NY are in the toilet.)
So, I think a moderate Republican beats her on the national stage by a good
margin. She takes all the solid blue; moderate Republican takes all the
red. In the swing states, she'll lose almost all of the conservative vote,
and some of the centrist left will bleed over to moderate Republican.
On the other hand, she'll make a very conservative Republican nominee look
bad. Unless things look a lot different in 2008, such a candidate wouldn't
have a chance in the close states.
So, what kind of candidate will the Republicans throw up there this time?
It seems like there's a lot riding on the GOP primary.
IMHO, of course.
Scott
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 22:08:38
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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S McFarlane wrote:
> Her real difficulty will be bringing that dog and pony show onto the
> national stage. Her numbers in NY reflect the fact that she seems to
> have done an excellent job representing NY interests in the Senate. That
> doesn't carry any water in OH or rural PA. Outside of NY, she's
> only got her national persona to work with, and that's problematic. In
> areas that lean conservative, she's DOA (job approval and just
> about every other indicator for registered Republicans in NY are in
> the toilet.)
> So, I think a moderate Republican beats her on the national stage by
> a good margin. She takes all the solid blue; moderate Republican
> takes all the red. In the swing states, she'll lose almost all of
> the conservative vote, and some of the centrist left will bleed over
> to moderate Republican.
I disagree, Scott. I think she takes the female vote in red states; and
majority (irrepsective of sex) in the blue states. Perhaps she loses
the primary and runs as VP. I predict Executive Office; but I will not
commit that it has to be as President.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 05:09:43
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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"Head Shot" <HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote in message
news:J_88h.3104$k6.2154@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>> So, I think a moderate Republican beats her on the national stage by
>> a good margin. She takes all the solid blue; moderate Republican
>> takes all the red. In the swing states, she'll lose almost all of
>> the conservative vote, and some of the centrist left will bleed over
>> to moderate Republican.
>
>
> I disagree, Scott. I think she takes the female vote in red states; and
> majority (irrepsective of sex) in the blue states. Perhaps she loses
> the primary and runs as VP. I predict Executive Office; but I will not
> commit that it has to be as President.
>
Not a chance on the first point. Do you happen to live in a red state?
Don't have a clue where you're at, but I'd guess it isn't all that red. If
I were to ask 50 women and 50 men on the street of my home town what they
thought of Hillary as President, I'd guess that she'd not do much better
among the women, if at all. Certainly not enough to take the state It'd
be a landslide, even if you didn't specify what Republican she would be
running against. I'm not sure you understand what sort of bad vibe Hillary
is up against in large sections of Americana. She's not very popular in
some crowds. Not saying it's right, only that it is.
As always, the question comes down to the swing states. California and
Texas are spoken for, thank you. What does Ohio and Pennsylvania have to
say?
You might be right about VP. In that position she makes some sense
politically. The "women's vote" can't be discounted, and as a running mate
she would still attract a lot of femine votes without the scare factor of
Hillary As President.
Scott
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 12:51:22
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:09:43 GMT, "S McFarlane" <spam@nothanks.com >
wrote:
>You might be right about VP. In that position she makes some sense
>politically. The "women's vote" can't be discounted, and as a running mate
>she would still attract a lot of femine votes without the scare factor of
>Hillary As President.
All things being equal - the first woman or a minority candidate is
more likely to win if that person is a conservative.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 20:52:20
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> All things being equal - the first woman or a minority candidate is
> more likely to win if that person is a conservative.
All things are never equal; and I don't think Colin Powell would have won
the Presidency if he ran in 2000; and he is certainly a conservative.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 21 Nov 2006 02:21:53
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:52:20 -0500, "Head Shot"
<HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote:
>> All things being equal - the first woman or a minority candidate is
>> more likely to win if that person is a conservative.
>
>All things are never equal; and I don't think Colin Powell would have won
>the Presidency if he ran in 2000; and he is certainly a conservative.
He would have been a lot closer than, say Jesse Jackson. I didn't
say it guarantees a win to be a conservative minority.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 20:50:29
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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S McFarlane wrote:
> Not a chance on the first point. Do you happen to live in a red
> state?
Yes. In the Deep South, in fact.
> Don't have a clue where you're at, but I'd guess it isn't all
> that red.
It's red as a nosebleed. In fact; while other States went to the dark
side; we kept our Republican Governor (and didn't have any Senatorial
elections this time around).
> If I were to ask 50 women and 50 men on the street of my
> home town what they thought of Hillary as President, I'd guess that
> she'd not do much better among the women, if at all. Certainly not
> enough to take the state
Here she would do well because she is a woman (our Mayor here in Atlanta is
a woman and is quite beloved). Also from being up the road in Arkansas for
most of her husband's career doesn't hurt. Arkansas is a suburb of
Georgia. We have weapon permit reciprocity and lots of folks go back and
forth between those two states to hunt.
> You might be right about VP. In that position she makes some sense
> politically. The "women's vote" can't be discounted, and as a
> running mate she would still attract a lot of femine votes without
> the scare factor of Hillary As President.
I am not afraid of her. I think she would make a great President. And
having lived in the White House for 8 years certainly helps - she knows her
way around Capitol Hill quite well.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 11:45:09
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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"Head Shot" <HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote in message
news:J_88h.3104$k6.2154@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>
> I disagree, Scott. I think she takes the female vote in red states; and
> majority (irrepsective of sex) in the blue states. Perhaps she loses
> the primary and runs as VP. I predict Executive Office; but I will not
> commit that it has to be as President.
Hillary will not get the female vote in red states. I know that much about
women.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 14:51:03
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:03:35 -0500, "Head Shot"
>> 3) She was genuine enough to win the adoration of NY; which is a
>> tough crowd.
>
> Yep, she is a genuine city woman. Rural folk tend to not identify
> with city folk and visa versa.
I don't disagree with that; but she won by more than a two-to-one ratio.
She had plenty of voters outside of the five boroughs.
> GWB won virtually all of the rural
> counties and lost most of the urban counties.
Well; people who have ever been off the farm realize that Bushtard is a
coke-head and alcoholic. Farmers probably think Jack Daniels is a food
group.
> She needs to win rural
> counties to win.
We will know what the voters are thinking in 2008; that's for sure.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:44:53
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: FOX News VS Other media
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:22:05 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>Chris Bellomy wrote:
>
>>
>> OK, I give you the Irish Republican Army. As you suggested, I can
>> probably keep producing examples.
>
>OK! Where did you learn the IRA was looking to kill all non Catholics and set up a
>totalitarian theocracy?
It's laughable to mention the IRA in a discussion of Christian
fundamentalists. If the only things you can come up with to counter
Islamic terrorism is Project Rescue and the IRA, you're in trouble.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 14:32:38
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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Bert Robbins wrote:
>
> Just wait until she is on the campaign trail and has to speak
> extemporaneously. She will take her large feet and shove both of them
> into here mouth at the same time over and over and over again.
Her political positions seem to be dictated by the polls. It appears that she
has no legitimate views of her own on the issues...or like most liberals these
days, is afraid to clearly state her views. Criticising the other side only gets
you so far.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:10:58
From: dhw
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
developing a much handsier swing?
Birdie Bill wrote:
> I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
> to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
> aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
> I'll try it out.
>
> It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
> thought.
> I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
> my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
> but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
> with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
> clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
> can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
> from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
> it stays right on plane.
>
> I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
> normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
> the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
>
> One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
> with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
> though you might have a little flip in your swing.
> So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
> prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
> problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
>
> All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
> still there next time I go.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 16:58:55
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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"dhw" <dhwalker1@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:1163959858.788177.212510@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
> with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
> club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
> developing a much handsier swing?
>
It makes you more aware of the clubhead, furnishing the previously "unaware"
person more feedback. The skin of our hands provides an enormous amount of
information.
It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
be passive.
It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
your timing will have been educated/changed.
Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
for the purposes I list.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:18:53
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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George Hibbard wrote:
>>
> It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
> be passive.
>
> It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
>
> AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
> differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
> your timing will have been educated/changed.
>
> Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
> for the purposes I list.
I agree with all that. I have a Whippy driver with a tiny (by today's
standards) head, probably around 200cc. If I get my swing to where I
can hit the Whippy well, hitting a ball with my normal driver is cake.
One day, I went by the course to eat lunch (it's only 5 min. from
downtown) and as I was leaving I noticed The Oldest Member was out
there in his usual spot on the range. He had a small gallery of two
that he was preaching to that day. I popped my trunk, got out my
Whippy Tempomaster, a tee and one ball. Without saying anything to
anybody I went over next to him, teed up the ball, took a few power
waggles (for effect) and laced a nice straight high one right down the
middle of the range. As I walked back to the car I turned and asked,
"Any Questions?"
For once in his life, The Oldest Member was speechless.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:03:51
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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On 19 Nov 2006 19:18:53 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>
>George Hibbard wrote:
>>>
>> It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
>> be passive.
>>
>> It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
>>
>> AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
>> differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
>> your timing will have been educated/changed.
>>
>> Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
>> for the purposes I list.
>
>I agree with all that. I have a Whippy driver with a tiny (by today's
>standards) head, probably around 200cc. If I get my swing to where I
>can hit the Whippy well, hitting a ball with my normal driver is cake.
>
>One day, I went by the course to eat lunch (it's only 5 min. from
>downtown) and as I was leaving I noticed The Oldest Member was out
>there in his usual spot on the range. He had a small gallery of two
>that he was preaching to that day. I popped my trunk, got out my
>Whippy Tempomaster, a tee and one ball. Without saying anything to
>anybody I went over next to him, teed up the ball, took a few power
>waggles (for effect) and laced a nice straight high one right down the
>middle of the range. As I walked back to the car I turned and asked,
>"Any Questions?"
>For once in his life, The Oldest Member was speechless.
Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 11:55:49
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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I'm not saying the Whippy is for everyone. It just happens
to fit pretty well with the swing I'm being taught, which
involves maintaining a lot of lag all the way to impact.
It does seem to amplify problems and give feedback.
On the other hand, If you just used the Whippy alone,
without any instruction, you could very well end up with
a different kind of swing. So, I don't think just using the
Whippy will automatically teach you a "correct" swing.
That's probably true of any swing aid.
And, I'm perfectly willing to accept that a "hitter" swing
is a valid way for someone to play golf, if they want to
go that way.
On Nov 19, 12:10 pm, "dhw" <dhwalk...@comcast.net > wrote:
> So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
> with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
> club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
> developing a much handsier swing?
>
>
>
> Birdie Bill wrote:
> > I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
> > to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
> > aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
> > I'll try it out.
>
> > It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
> > thought.
> > I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
> > my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
> > but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
> > with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
> > clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
> > can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
> > from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
> > it stays right on plane.
>
> > I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
> > normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
> > the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
>
> > One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
> > with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
> > though you might have a little flip in your swing.
> > So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
> > prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
> > problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
>
> > All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
> > still there next time I go.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:08:39
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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Dene wrote:
> > Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
> > whiff."
>
> Whiff....never.
> Woof....always. :>
>
Actually, I have whiffed a few in my day, but never off the tee.
My whiffs usually come either when I'm hitting under a tree and a limb
snags my club, or when I'm trying some stupid shot from a hazard and
the club bounces off a rock and goes over the ball.
I came close to whiffing a drive in a tournament recently when I teed
the ball up a little too close to an overhanging tree limb. The limb
grabbed my club, but fortunately I was able to stop my swing, ala
Tiger. I got skills.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 08:35:05
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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annika1980 wrote:
> John van der Pflum wrote:
> >
> > Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
> > --
>
> I left the trunk open in case I needed another ball.
> Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
> whiff."
Whiff....never.
Woof....always. : >
-Greg
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:07:05
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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John van der Pflum wrote:
>
> Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
> --
I left the trunk open in case I needed another ball.
Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
whiff."
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:04:23
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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Dene wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
>
> > I got skills.
>
> And pills!
>
Better golf thru Chemistry!
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 17:02:15
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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annika1980 wrote:
> I got skills.
And pills!
-Greg
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