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Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:47:15
From: annika1980
Subject: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
him?
Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
well.
I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 21:57:57
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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annika1980 wrote:
> I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> him?
> Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> well.
>
> I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
I keep seeing you behind Natalie Gulbis.
-Greg
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:45:26
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
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> annika1980 wrote:
>> I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
>> through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
>> Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
>> last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
>> him?
>> Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
>> well.
>>
>> I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
>
> I keep seeing you behind Natalie Gulbis.
>
> -Greg
>
Can you blame him?
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:21:38
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Aress Gee wrote:
> "Thor" <thorpub@rsgohio.com> writes:
>
> > Aress Gee wrote:
> > > Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
> >
> > It is... but it still makes him a wimp.
> >
> > He skipped RSG-Ohio this year too.... NOT just another
> > tournament.
>
> All the losers skipped it.
I was out with an injury.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:48:52
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> > What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
> him at the British Open next year.
Tiger has a bunch of those. He wins Vardon Trophies like I win RSG
trophies so it's understandable when he decides to skip one..
Of course he gets to keep all of his Vardon Trophies. If they give you
a jug you have to return it. What's up with that? Do they make the
Masters Champions return their coats or the RSG-DFW champion return his
Big-Ass Texas Belt-Buckle?
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 12:38:23
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 2 Nov 2006 08:48:52 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>
>John van der Pflum wrote:
>> > What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
>> him at the British Open next year.
>
>Tiger has a bunch of those. He wins Vardon Trophies like I win RSG
>trophies so it's understandable when he decides to skip one..
>Of course he gets to keep all of his Vardon Trophies. If they give you
>a jug you have to return it. What's up with that? Do they make the
>Masters Champions return their coats or the RSG-DFW champion return his
>Big-Ass Texas Belt-Buckle?
True. However, most defending champions have the balls to show up the
following year and defend their title. The real chickens decide to
stay at home and forego their appearance fee and a chance to beat the
crap out of the competition again. Those guys REALLY are pansies.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:19:23
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 2 Nov 2006 08:48:52 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>Of course he gets to keep all of his Vardon Trophies. If they give you
>a jug you have to return it. What's up with that? Do they make the
>Masters Champions return their coats or the RSG-DFW champion return his
>Big-Ass Texas Belt-Buckle?
Didn't Gary Player lose a jacket in Africa? I thought they now keep
their jackets in Augusta now. Maybe each winner also has a locker,
I don't know.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:39:36
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Herbert wrote:
> "Ken Meltzer" <commspkmn@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162480586.092193.193910@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Aress Gee wrote:
> >
> > > It's his career and his choice to decide what
> > > events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
> >
> > Most definitely. But I would hope that the wonderful philanthropic
> > work surrounding East Lake would have some meaning to him. I'm sure it
> > does, and it would have been nice if he could have lent his presence to
> > this event.
>
> I'm sure he there are 500 wonderful philanthropic events he turns down each
> year. He's not obligated to serve others 7x24x365.
Did I say he was obligated? I don't think I did.
Best,
Ken
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:46:13
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"Ken Meltzer" <commspkmn@aol.com > wrote in message
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> Herbert wrote:
> > "Ken Meltzer" <commspkmn@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1162480586.092193.193910@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Aress Gee wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's his career and his choice to decide what
> > > > events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
> > >
> > > Most definitely. But I would hope that the wonderful philanthropic
> > > work surrounding East Lake would have some meaning to him. I'm sure
it
> > > does, and it would have been nice if he could have lent his presence
to
> > > this event.
> >
> > I'm sure he there are 500 wonderful philanthropic events he turns down
each
> > year. He's not obligated to serve others 7x24x365.
>
> Did I say he was obligated? I don't think I did.
Perhaps not, but you were thinking it, I know you were.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:16:26
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Aress Gee wrote:
> It's his career and his choice to decide what
> events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
Most definitely. But I would hope that the wonderful philanthropic
work surrounding East Lake would have some meaning to him. I'm sure it
does, and it would have been nice if he could have lent his presence to
this event.
Best,
Ken
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:35:22
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"Ken Meltzer" <commspkmn@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1162480586.092193.193910@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Aress Gee wrote:
>
> > It's his career and his choice to decide what
> > events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
>
> Most definitely. But I would hope that the wonderful philanthropic
> work surrounding East Lake would have some meaning to him. I'm sure it
> does, and it would have been nice if he could have lent his presence to
> this event.
I'm sure he there are 500 wonderful philanthropic events he turns down each
year. He's not obligated to serve others 7x24x365.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 06:28:23
From: Thor
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Aress Gee wrote:
> Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
It is... but it still makes him a wimp.
He skipped RSG-Ohio this year too.... NOT just another
tournament.
> The idea of a 'TOUR Championship' is a little silly in my
> opinion. PGA TOUR golf is not like the NBA, MLB, or NFL
> where there is a regular season leading up to a single
> championship.
>
> It's just another tournament.
--Thor
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:37:25
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"Thor" <thorpub@rsgohio.com > writes:
> Aress Gee wrote:
> > Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
>
> It is... but it still makes him a wimp.
>
> He skipped RSG-Ohio this year too.... NOT just another
> tournament.
All the losers skipped it.
--
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Aress symbol are destined to go unfulfilled.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:39:00
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 02 Nov 2006 08:37:25 -0600, Aress Gee
<invalid@not_real_address.com > wrote:
>"Thor" <thorpub@rsgohio.com> writes:
>
>> Aress Gee wrote:
>> > Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
>>
>> It is... but it still makes him a wimp.
>>
>> He skipped RSG-Ohio this year too.... NOT just another
>> tournament.
>
>All the losers skipped it.
At least you've placed yourself in the correct group.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 05:48:30
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum wrote:
>
> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
Two reasons that I can see.
1. He's about to gear up for his big Asian trip + the Grand Slam thing
on Kauai.
2. He's never won at East Lake so his streak may be in jeopardy.
Phil, on the other hand has won both at East Lake and at Poipu (where
he shot 59) so skipping those two seems like a real brain fart for him.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:40:29
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 2 Nov 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>
>John van der Pflum wrote:
>>
>> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
>
>Two reasons that I can see.
>
>1. He's about to gear up for his big Asian trip + the Grand Slam thing
>on Kauai.
>2. He's never won at East Lake so his streak may be in jeopardy.
>
>Phil, on the other hand has won both at East Lake and at Poipu (where
>he shot 59) so skipping those two seems like a real brain fart for him.
What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
him at the British Open next year.
(BTW -- That Disney move -- The Greatest Game Ever Played was pretty
good. I loved the Harry Vardon character.)
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:51:04
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > writes:
> On 2 Nov 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >John van der Pflum wrote:
> >>
> >> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
> >
> >Two reasons that I can see.
> >
> >1. He's about to gear up for his big Asian trip + the Grand Slam thing
> >on Kauai.
> >2. He's never won at East Lake so his streak may be in jeopardy.
> >
> >Phil, on the other hand has won both at East Lake and at Poipu (where
> >he shot 59) so skipping those two seems like a real brain fart for him.
>
> What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
> him at the British Open next year.
What about it?
What if the Podunk County Rotary Club decides to give Tiger an
award next year and he skips that ceremony?
It's his career and his choice to decide what
events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
--
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Mr. People who use golf as some sort of status
Aress symbol are destined to go unfulfilled.
Gee -- Golf's Most Beloved Figure
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:00:01
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 02 Nov 2006 08:51:04 -0600, Aress Gee
<invalid@not_real_address.com > wrote:
>John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> writes:
>
>> On 2 Nov 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >John van der Pflum wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
>> >
>> >Two reasons that I can see.
>> >
>> >1. He's about to gear up for his big Asian trip + the Grand Slam thing
>> >on Kauai.
>> >2. He's never won at East Lake so his streak may be in jeopardy.
>> >
>> >Phil, on the other hand has won both at East Lake and at Poipu (where
>> >he shot 59) so skipping those two seems like a real brain fart for him.
>>
>> What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
>> him at the British Open next year.
>
>What about it?
>
>What if the Podunk County Rotary Club decides to give Tiger an
>award next year and he skips that ceremony?
>
>It's his career and his choice to decide what
>events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
I agree. He can do whatever he wants. But people make weird choices
all the time and I find this one to be particularly weird.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:51:50
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"John van der Pflum" <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote in message
news:nt1kk2haqeruvdva86pfv8d227jc918s2l@4ax.com...
> I agree. He can do whatever he wants. But people make weird choices
> all the time and I find this one to be particularly weird.
There is nothing wierd about firing up the jet and talking his wife on a fun
trip overseas instead of going to Atlanta, GA.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:11:33
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> On 02 Nov 2006 08:51:04 -0600, Aress Gee
> <invalid@not_real_address.com> wrote:
>
>
>>John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> writes:
>>
>>
>>>On 2 Nov 2006 05:48:30 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>John van der Pflum wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
>>>>
>>>>Two reasons that I can see.
>>>>
>>>>1. He's about to gear up for his big Asian trip + the Grand Slam thing
>>>>on Kauai.
>>>>2. He's never won at East Lake so his streak may be in jeopardy.
>>>>
>>>>Phil, on the other hand has won both at East Lake and at Poipu (where
>>>>he shot 59) so skipping those two seems like a real brain fart for him.
>>>
>>>What about the Vardon Trophy? I hope the ghost of Harry Vardon haunts
>>>him at the British Open next year.
>>
>>What about it?
>>
>>What if the Podunk County Rotary Club decides to give Tiger an
>>award next year and he skips that ceremony?
>>
>>It's his career and his choice to decide what
>>events/awards/appearance-fees etc. have meaning to him.
>
>
> I agree. He can do whatever he wants. But people make weird choices
> all the time and I find this one to be particularly weird.
What I don't like about it is his lame excuse of being "tired". If he
doesn't want to play in the event, because he has commitments in Asia,
then why not just come out and just say so.
David
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:36:29
From: long&left
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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David Sneddon wrote:
(snip)
>>
>> I agree. He can do whatever he wants. But people make weird choices
>> all the time and I find this one to be particularly weird.
>
> What I don't like about it is his lame excuse of being "tired". If he
> doesn't want to play in the event, because he has commitments in Asia,
> then why not just come out and just say so.
>
> David
I think because Tiger has been trained from an early age to be
politically correct and to not offend anyone. How would you like it if
you ran the tournament and Tiger told you..."uh, I'm blowing you off to
go to Asia and make 6 mil, tough shit dude" ? The media would have a
field day. No one can argue with "I'm tired"...except those of us here
in RSG of course :)
Dave
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:12:43
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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>> What I don't like about it is his lame excuse of being "tired". If he
>> doesn't want to play in the event, because he has commitments in Asia,
>> then why not just come out and just say so.
>>
>> David
>
>
> I think because Tiger has been trained from an early age to be politically
> correct and to not offend anyone. How would you like it if you ran the
> tournament and Tiger told you..."uh, I'm blowing you off to go to Asia and
> make 6 mil, tough shit dude" ? The media would have a field day. No one
> can argue with "I'm tired"...except those of us here in RSG of course :)
> Dave
>
I don't know about the orgizers of the Tour Championship, but to me a lie is
the worst of offenses. The idea that Tiger Woods is too tired to play 4
rounds of golf, having not plaid competitive golf in what, a month? isn't
credible, so you know there's some other reason out there. If it's playing
elsewhere I would expect him to be honest about it and wouldn't expect
anyone to take offense. There may be something to the "protecting the
streak argument, but I wondered if it was something personal he just didn't
want to talk about. Tiger wouldn't even notice another 6 mil. In any case
this doesn't bode well for the PGA tour's new format. Are any more of the
big names going to play the fall events because of the playoff and bonus
thing?
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:55:48
From: long&left
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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warren montgomery wrote:
>>> What I don't like about it is his lame excuse of being "tired". If he
>>> doesn't want to play in the event, because he has commitments in Asia,
>>> then why not just come out and just say so.
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> I think because Tiger has been trained from an early age to be politically
>> correct and to not offend anyone. How would you like it if you ran the
>> tournament and Tiger told you..."uh, I'm blowing you off to go to Asia and
>> make 6 mil, tough shit dude" ? The media would have a field day. No one
>> can argue with "I'm tired"...except those of us here in RSG of course :)
>> Dave
>>
> I don't know about the orgizers of the Tour Championship, but to me a lie is
> the worst of offenses. The idea that Tiger Woods is too tired to play 4
> rounds of golf, having not plaid competitive golf in what, a month? isn't
> credible, so you know there's some other reason out there. If it's playing
> elsewhere I would expect him to be honest about it and wouldn't expect
> anyone to take offense. There may be something to the "protecting the
> streak argument, but I wondered if it was something personal he just didn't
> want to talk about. Tiger wouldn't even notice another 6 mil. In any case
> this doesn't bode well for the PGA tour's new format. Are any more of the
> big names going to play the fall events because of the playoff and bonus
> thing?
sometimes honesty is NOT the best policy...not that I agree with that
mind you
Dave
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 10:41:23
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 10:12:43 -0600, "warren montgomery"
<wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
>>> What I don't like about it is his lame excuse of being "tired". If he
>>> doesn't want to play in the event, because he has commitments in Asia,
>>> then why not just come out and just say so.
>>>
>>> David
>I don't know about the orgizers of the Tour Championship, but to me a lie is
>the worst of offenses.
I'm sure that TW isn't physically beaten down. "Tired" can mean
different things to different people. Calling him a liar is quite
presumptious.
___,
\o
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 08:37:16
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 1 Nov 2006 19:47:15 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
>I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
>through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
>Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
>last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
>him?
>Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
>well.
>
>I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
don't buy that one.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgincinnati.com
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:25:51
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> On 1 Nov 2006 19:47:15 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
>>through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
>>Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
>>last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
>>him?
>>Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
>>well.
>>
>>I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
>
>
> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
> If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
> illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
> from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
> don't buy that one.
He was quoted as saying he was 'tired'.
Amazing really for someone who is always touted as supremely fit. He's
had 3/4 weeks off, however that 20minute flight to Atlanta must be too
much for him, especially to play on a course that he hasn't played very
well on.
Of course the 14hr flight to China this weekend with around $6million in
appearance money for 2 tounaments has no bearing on it at all.
David
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:42:22
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"David Sneddon" <nospam@nospam.net > wrote in message
news:4qudf8Fotsa7U1@individual.net...
> John van der Pflum wrote:
> > On 1 Nov 2006 19:47:15 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> >>through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> >>Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> >>last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> >>him?
> >>Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> >>well.
> >>
> >>I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
> >
> >
> > I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
> > If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
> > illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
> > from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
> > don't buy that one.
>
> He was quoted as saying he was 'tired'.
I would not pass judgement on that unless I saw the entire quote, in
context.
>
> Amazing really for someone who is always touted as supremely fit. He's
> had 3/4 weeks off, however that 20minute flight to Atlanta must be too
> much for him, especially to play on a course that he hasn't played very
> well on.
>
> Of course the 14hr flight to China this weekend with around $6million in
> appearance money for 2 tounaments has no bearing on it at all.
Fly to Atlanta on another boring Tour stop that means nothing in his quest
to be the best ever, or, fuel up the jet and take Elin (one of the hottest
bitches in the world) on a cool trip to a foreign land and make a couple of
million. Tough call, that one.
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:27:01
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:42:22 GMT, "Herbert"
<humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> He was quoted as saying he was 'tired'.
>
>I would not pass judgement on that unless I saw the entire quote, in
>context.
After losing his Dad and then missing the cut in a Major, he got his
focus and is in his streak (with a Ryder Cup loss in between). I
don't know what it's like to compete at that level week after week. I
imagine it is draining.
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Date: 03 Nov 2006 02:30:40
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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On 2-Nov-2006, "Herbert" <humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Fly to Atlanta on another boring Tour stop that means nothing in his quest
> to be the best ever, or, fuel up the jet and take Elin (one of the hottest
> bitches in the world) on a cool trip to a foreign land and make a couple
> of
> million. Tough call, that one.
But think of all the historic monuments he'll be missing...
http://roadsidegeorgia.com/site/bigchicken.html
me
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 16:33:43
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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"David Sneddon" <nospam@nospam.net > wrote
>>
>> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
>> If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
>> illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
>> from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
>> don't buy that one.
>
> He was quoted as saying he was 'tired'.
>
> Amazing really for someone who is always touted as supremely fit. He's
> had 3/4 weeks off, however that 20minute flight to Atlanta must be too
> much for him, especially to play on a course that he hasn't played very
> well on.
>
> Of course the 14hr flight to China this weekend with around $6million in
> appearance money for 2 tounaments has no bearing on it at all.
First of all, "tired" to you and me is something entirely different than
what "tired" is to a TOUR player.
It's a good bet that Tiger was not referring to being physically tired.
Mentally tired is more like it. What those guys go through to get
themselves prepared mentally to play at that level (and Tiger is fairly
unique in this regard) is something that most of us mere mortals -- and
indeed, even the other "mere mortals" that constitute the rest of the field
at most TOUR events -- simply cannot relate to.
Surely the suspicion is that he's skipping the TOUR Championship because
he's not won at East Lake, and doesn't want to put his winning streak in
jeopardy. That's a logical guess, but it's what I would consider an
incomplete thought because it merely recognizes what's at the surface --
that he hasn't won at East Lake before -- and ignores other factors. Think
about it for a minute -- does anyone really believe Tiger is, or has ever
been, afraid of losing? That's pretty ridiculous, if you think about it,
given that he's the winningest player on TOUR, and one of the winningest
players in the history of golf. He hadn't ever won at Hoylake, either, but
seemed to handle it pretty well. In point of fact, there are very few
venues he plays where he's never won. And while it's true that East Lake is
one of those few, the players who will be there are all players he's
beaten -- and at times, beaten easily -- before. So as a matter of simple
logic, I rule out "fear of losing" as his reason for skipping the event.
Maybe he reached a point during his string of winning that he hit a wall and
said, "that's enough." Maybe he sensed that he was running on fumes the
last few weeks and made a commitment to himself to take the rest of the year
off. Who among us can't relate to the idea of making a commitment? (All,
maybe?)
In any case, I take him at his word that he was simply tired (mentally) and
wanted to take the rest of the year off. That doesn't preclude him from
competing in some overseas events or some US "silly season" events, none of
which would carry the same pressure, but might provide him with some
feedback on where his game is (I'm sure he's been tweaking a few things; he
always does).
The man has every right to just say "no." What part of that is so hard to
understand? When Mickey Phil skipped the TOUR Championship, once people
thought about it for a minute, it became a non-issue. Why should we think
any differently of Tiger skipping it?
Randy
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:43:50
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > writes:
> On 1 Nov 2006 19:47:15 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> >through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> >Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> >last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> >him?
> >Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> >well.
> >
> >I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
>
> I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
> If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
> illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
> from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
> don't buy that one.
Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
The idea of a 'TOUR Championship' is a little silly in my
opinion. PGA TOUR golf is not like the NBA, MLB, or NFL
where there is a regular season leading up to a single
championship.
It's just another tournament.
--
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Mr. People who use golf as some sort of status
Aress symbol are destined to go unfulfilled.
Gee -- Golf's Most Beloved Figure
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 14:23:40
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162447077.229318.234430@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > annika1980 wrote:
> >> I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> >> through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> >> Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> >> last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> >> him?
> >> Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
> >
> > I keep seeing you behind Natalie Gulbis.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> Can you blame him?
Nope! : >
-Greg
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 14:23:06
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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MnMikew wrote:
> "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1162447077.229318.234430@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > annika1980 wrote:
> >> I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> >> through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> >> Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> >> last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> >> him?
> >> Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
> >
> > I keep seeing you behind Natalie Gulbis.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
> Can you blame him?
Nope! : >
-Greg
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 12:54:46
From: dsc
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:42:22 GMT, "Herbert"
> <humphrey_herbert@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> He was quoted as saying he was 'tired'.
> >
> >I would not pass judgement on that unless I saw the entire quote, in
> >context.
>
> After losing his Dad and then missing the cut in a Major, he got his
> focus and is in his streak (with a Ryder Cup loss in between). I
> don't know what it's like to compete at that level week after week. I
> imagine it is draining.
It would be on a mere mortal... but is should be just another day at
the office for Tiger. I gues she just wants to get out of the office...
:)
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 12:42:06
From: dsc
Subject: Re: The Hammer on TGC !!!
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Aress Gee wrote:
> John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> writes:
>
> > On 1 Nov 2006 19:47:15 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I rarely watch The Golf Channel anymore, but last night I was flicking
> > >through the channels when TGC ran a story about Tiger skipping the Tour
> > >Championship. They showed some footage taken of Tiger at East Lake
> > >last year and guess who was standing right there in the frame behind
> > >him?
> > >Everyone's favorite combover, The Hammer! Mrs. Hammer was there as
> > >well.
> > >
> > >I saved it on Tivo. Maybe I'll post a screen capture or a clip.
> >
> > I still don't understand why Tiger is skipping the Tour Championship.
> > If it's for personal reasons that he doesn't want to talk about --
> > illness in the family, etc etc -- that's cool. But if he's just tired
> > from a season of golf when he hasn't played in a few weeks, well, I
> > don't buy that one.
>
> Why isn't "I don't wanna play" an acceptable reason?
I think it's because "I don't wanna work" doesn't cut it for most of
us... and most of us would "love to play" anywhere anytime. In other
words he can but won't and we would, but can't. Would/but can't gets a
little ticked off at can/but won't sometimes.
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