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Date: 23 Sep 2006 15:15:14
From: annika1980
Subject: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
1:03PM Olaz=E1bal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
I might've put DiMarco out first if it were me.
And I would've loved to see a Woods/Garcia match.
Will Sergio be wearing his banana yellow tomorrow?
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 17:23:03
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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Big_Fan wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
> > 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
> > 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
> > 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
> > 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
> > 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
> > 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
> > 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
> > 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
> > 1:03PM Olaz=E1bal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
> > 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
> > 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
> Karlsson vs Woods?
> I can't say that there is a really compelling match out there.
Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
I don't think that David Toms and Stew Cink are gonna strike much fear
in Monty or Sergio. Perhaps Lehman's strategy was to get the Euros
overconfident or maybe to spot them a 12-6 advantage?
Or maybe the Euros will see how easy they've got it and start their
partying one night early?
I'm not convinced that the order of the lineup is that big a deal,
anyway. I mean, you gotta win 14 points. What diff does it make if
you win them early or late?
The theory is that if the first couple of guys get big leads, it'll
inspire the rest of the team to somehow play harder. I figure, if
you've got to rely on that to make them play, you're probably gonna get
beat anyway. And think of the pressure those other guys will feel if
the hotshots out front are trailing in their matches?
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 18:46:25
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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annika1980 wrote:
> Big_Fan wrote:
>> annika1980 wrote:
>>> 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
>>> 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
>>> 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
>>> 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
>>> 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
>>> 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
>>> 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
>>> 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
>>> 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
>>> 1:03PM Olaz=E1bal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
>>> 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
>>> 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
>=20
>=20
>> Karlsson vs Woods?
>> I can't say that there is a really compelling match out there.
>=20
> Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.=
>=20
> I don't think that David Toms and Stew Cink are gonna strike much fear
> in Monty or Sergio. Perhaps Lehman's strategy was to get the Euros
> overconfident or maybe to spot them a 12-6 advantage?
> Or maybe the Euros will see how easy they've got it and start their
> partying one night early?
>=20
> I'm not convinced that the order of the lineup is that big a deal,
> anyway. I mean, you gotta win 14 points. What diff does it make if
> you win them early or late?
> The theory is that if the first couple of guys get big leads, it'll
> inspire the rest of the team to somehow play harder. I figure, if
> you've got to rely on that to make them play, you're probably gonna get=
> beat anyway. And think of the pressure those other guys will feel if
> the hotshots out front are trailing in their matches?
>=20
and the biggest problem the USA has is that Woods won't beat Karlsson.=20
He's loose as a goose and got nothing to lose...If I had a bookie I'd=20
put $1k on Karlsson for a big payday...much more of a chance than you=20
winning the lotto and having RSG-HI don't ya think :)
my alarm's set for 3:50am PDT!
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 21:26:30
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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If the US doesn't win early points, then you and I might as well be playing
late 'cause it won't matter.
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159057383.392510.218720@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Big_Fan wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
> > 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
> > 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
> > 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
> > 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
> > 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
> > 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
> > 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
> > 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
> > 1:03PM Olazábal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
> > 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
> > 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
> Karlsson vs Woods?
> I can't say that there is a really compelling match out there.
Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
I don't think that David Toms and Stew Cink are gonna strike much fear
in Monty or Sergio. Perhaps Lehman's strategy was to get the Euros
overconfident or maybe to spot them a 12-6 advantage?
Or maybe the Euros will see how easy they've got it and start their
partying one night early?
I'm not convinced that the order of the lineup is that big a deal,
anyway. I mean, you gotta win 14 points. What diff does it make if
you win them early or late?
The theory is that if the first couple of guys get big leads, it'll
inspire the rest of the team to somehow play harder. I figure, if
you've got to rely on that to make them play, you're probably gonna get
beat anyway. And think of the pressure those other guys will feel if
the hotshots out front are trailing in their matches?
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 02:01:33
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:26:30 -0400, "sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote:
>Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
How does momentum work here?
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 19:23:38
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 21:26:30 -0400, "sfb" <sfb@spam.net> wrote:
>
>> Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
>
> How does momentum work here?
the same way it always works...by moving the advantage to your side
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 13:37:37
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:23:38 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com >
wrote:
>>> Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
>>
>> How does momentum work here?
>
>the same way it always works...by moving the advantage to your side
"Momentum" is used in sports to mean - if I am playing well now, I
will continue to play well. It appears to have some validity
because if I'm playing well now, it is because I'm better now, and
will continue to be better.
But if Tiger plays well does it mean Henry will play well?
And if Tiger's team plays well, will Henry be playing conservatively
or how?
I don't think "momentum" works here.
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 08:31:50
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:23:38 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
>>> How does momentum work here?
>> the same way it always works...by moving the advantage to your side
>
> "Momentum" is used in sports to mean - if I am playing well now, I
> will continue to play well.
I disagree, otherwise there would never be shifts in momentum...
It appears to have some validity
> because if I'm playing well now, it is because I'm better now, and
> will continue to be better.
>
> But if Tiger plays well does it mean Henry will play well?
>
> And if Tiger's team plays well, will Henry be playing conservatively
> or how?
>
>
> I don't think "momentum" works here.
momentum is like a good lookin' easy goin' wife...hard to find and even
harder to hold onto :)
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Date: 23 Sep 2006 16:15:44
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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annika1980 wrote:
> 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
> 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
> 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
> 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
> 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
> 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
> 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
> 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
> 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
> 1:03PM Olaz=E1bal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
> 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
> 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
>
> I might've put DiMarco out first if it were me.
> And I would've loved to see a Woods/Garcia match.
>
> Will Sergio be wearing his banana yellow tomorrow?
Karlsson vs Woods?
I can't say that there is a really compelling match out there.
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 08:18:09
From:
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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annika1980 wrote:
> Big_Fan wrote:
> > annika1980 wrote:
> > > 11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
> > > 11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
> > > 11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
> > > 11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
> > > 12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
> > > 12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
> > > 12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
> > > 12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
> > > 12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
> > > 1:03PM Olaz=E1bal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
> > > 1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
> > > 1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
>
>
> > Karlsson vs Woods?
> > I can't say that there is a really compelling match out there.
>
> Everybody knew that Lehman had to topload to try to gain some momentum.
>
> I don't think that David Toms and Stew Cink are gonna strike much fear
> in Monty or Sergio. Perhaps Lehman's strategy was to get the Euros
> overconfident or maybe to spot them a 12-6 advantage?
> Or maybe the Euros will see how easy they've got it and start their
> partying one night early?
>
> I'm not convinced that the order of the lineup is that big a deal,
> anyway. I mean, you gotta win 14 points. What diff does it make if
> you win them early or late?
> The theory is that if the first couple of guys get big leads, it'll
> inspire the rest of the team to somehow play harder. I figure, if
> you've got to rely on that to make them play, you're probably gonna get
> beat anyway. And think of the pressure those other guys will feel if
> the hotshots out front are trailing in their matches?
Did you ever hear the word MOMENTUM? If you start Woods and Furyk 1 &2
and they both win now you are in much better shape from the 10-6 hole
you start in. BTW if Monty is theyre best should his oponent have been
our best (Woods)? Does anybody have a clue? Are you a bunch of
computer geeks or golfers?
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Date: 24 Sep 2006 02:57:50
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Sunday's Ryder Cup Pairings
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159049714.324386.22680@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
11:15AM Montgomerie (EUR) vs. Toms (US)
11:27AM Garcia (EUR) vs. Cink (US)
11:39AM Casey (EUR) vs. Furyk (US)
11:51AM Karlsson (EUR) vs. Woods (US)
12:03PM Donald (EUR) vs. Campbell (US)
12:15PM McGinley (EUR) vs. Henry (US)
12:27PM Clarke (EUR) vs. Johnson (US)
12:39PM Stenson (EUR) vs. Taylor (US)
12:51PM Howell (EUR) vs. Wetterich (US)
1:03PM Olazábal (EUR) vs. Mickelson (US)
1:15PM Westwood (EUR) vs. DiMarco (US)
1:27PM Harrington (EUR) vs. Verplank (US)
I might've put DiMarco out first if it were me.
And I would've loved to see a Woods/Garcia match.
Will Sergio be wearing his banana yellow tomorrow?
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I think the most baffling thing about Ryder Cup is how inferior Woods'
record has been.
And come to think of it, he hasn't fared much better at the Presidents Cup
matches.
I mean, it's not like this guy hasn't had success in his life performing in
match play events -- 3-time US Amateur Champion, and he's won the Accenture
WGC Match Play Championship a couple of times.
It just doesn't add up.
Randy
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