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Date: 01 Sep 2006 17:04:25
From: Steve Logan
Subject: Score Varies?
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Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
middle aged recreation golfer?
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 10:36:51
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Wayne wrote:
> Steve Logan wrote:
>
> > Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> > And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> > middle aged recreation golfer?
>
> I wouldn't say that's all that uncommon. I'm a 2 and my scores have ranged
> from 72 to 87 this year. When I don't have it, I really don't have it :-)
Wayne, "You are not a 2"...according to some here. Without consistant
scores of 75 or less, you can't be a 2 :)
Of course, most know that you can be a X and have your scores vary
widely around your handicap...thus, that is why they take the 10 best
of the last 20 :)
Tex
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 13:46:23
From: Tex
Subject: Re: I did JonBenet!
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Dene wrote:
> What's your excuse for being the drunken pig you've become?
And yet, with a personality such as yours, you'd want us to believe you
are generally nice person.
I'm glad you spoke again to once again remove all doubt.
Tex
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 10:48:43
From: Rude Dog
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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"Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote in message
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> Wayne wrote:
>> Steve Logan wrote:
>>
>> > Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying
>> > myself.
>> > And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
>> > middle aged recreation golfer?
>>
>> I wouldn't say that's all that uncommon. I'm a 2 and my scores have
>> ranged
>> from 72 to 87 this year. When I don't have it, I really don't have it
>> :-)
>
> Wayne, "You are not a 2"...according to some here. Without consistant
> scores of 75 or less, you can't be a 2 :)
>
> Of course, most know that you can be a X and have your scores vary
> widely around your handicap...thus, that is why they take the 10 best
> of the last 20 :)
>
> Tex
>
Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is that
your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
score.
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 13:25:23
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Steve Logan wrote:
> Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> middle aged recreation golfer?
I wouldn't say that's all that uncommon. I'm a 2 and my scores have ranged
from 72 to 87 this year. When I don't have it, I really don't have it :-)
Wayne
--
www.nhlfa.com
"There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are
intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch."
-Nigel Powers
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 18:54:52
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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I'm a 6 and I have shot 65 five or six times in my life. I've also shot 89 a
bunch of times. I don't remember ever shooting over 100.
I've played 3 times this summer (84, 78, 80). Haven't posted a score in a
few years.
Usually I am around 75 if I play well and around 84 if I am off.
Da Ringer
"Wayne" <way96ah@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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> Steve Logan wrote:
>
>> Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying
>> myself.
>> And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
>> middle aged recreation golfer?
>
> I wouldn't say that's all that uncommon. I'm a 2 and my scores have
> ranged
> from 72 to 87 this year. When I don't have it, I really don't have it :-)
>
> Wayne
> --
> www.nhlfa.com
> "There are only two things I can't stand in this world: people who are
> intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the Dutch."
> -Nigel Powers
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 15:12:53
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Rude Dog wrote:
> "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1157145492.726023.315610@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Rude Dog wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is
> >> that
> >> your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
> >> score.
> >
> > Cite please.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
>
> From www.usga.org Handicap System manual Section 1-1 Purpose:
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> "A Handicap Index compares a player's scoring ability to the scoring ability
> of a scratch golfer on a course of standard difficulty. A player posts
> scores along with the appropriate USGA Course Rating and Slope Rating to
> make up the scoring record. A Handicap Index is computed from no more than
> 20 scores plus any eligible tournament scores. It reflects the player's
> potential because it is based upon the best handicap differentials posted
> for a given number of rounds, ideally the best 10 of the last 20 rounds."
>
> Note the sentence that begins: "It reflects the player's potential ..."
Thanks! That makes me feel better about my own index.
-Greg
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 15:02:14
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Steve Logan wrote:
> Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> middle aged recreation golfer?
Absolutely. That is the difference between a lower handicapper and a
higher handicapper like me. My scores, so far this year, for 18 holes,
have ranged from 74 to 105; a 31 stroke range...so far! My USGA index
is currently 10.8. I think the low has been 10.3 and the high over 16
for this year, as I recall.
If I could strike the ball well more consistently my handicap would
come down as the variation in my scores came down. It's why 2
handicappers don't go 5 strokes over or under their index very often,
and why 20 handicappers do go more than 5 strokes over their index half
the time they play and 5 strokes under their index about 5% of the time
they play. Just look at the range of scores posted for different
members at your club.
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 14:32:11
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Dene wrote:
> Rude Dog wrote:
>
> > Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is that
> > your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
> > score.
>
> Cite please.
It's based on your best 10 differentials... not your average
differential... then the average of the best 10 differentials is
multiplied by .96... reducing it slightly more. In general your
handiacap will be at least a couple (or so) strokes less than your
average...
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 14:18:12
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Rude Dog wrote:
> Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is that
> your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
> score.
Cite please.
-Greg
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 22:17:12
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
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> Rude Dog wrote:
>
> > Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is
that
> > your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
> > score.
>
> Cite please.
>
> -Greg
>
Page 1 of the USGA Handicap Manual
dave
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 14:30:25
From: Rude Dog
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote in message
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> Rude Dog wrote:
>
>> Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is
>> that
>> your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
>> score.
>
> Cite please.
>
> -Greg
>
From www.usga.org Handicap System manual Section 1-1 Purpose:
"A Handicap Index compares a player's scoring ability to the scoring ability
of a scratch golfer on a course of standard difficulty. A player posts
scores along with the appropriate USGA Course Rating and Slope Rating to
make up the scoring record. A Handicap Index is computed from no more than
20 scores plus any eligible tournament scores. It reflects the player's
potential because it is based upon the best handicap differentials posted
for a given number of rounds, ideally the best 10 of the last 20 rounds."
Note the sentence that begins: "It reflects the player's potential ..."
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 21:07:00
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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"Steve Logan" <SteveLogan@aol.com > wrote in message
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> Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> middle aged recreation golfer?
What does middle aged have to do with it? You need lessons. Have a local
pro take a look.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 12:04:15
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Rude Dog wrote:
> "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1157145492.726023.315610@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Rude Dog wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly. What everyone forgets (or doesn't know in the first place) is
> >> that
> >> your handicap is supposed to represent your potential, not your average
> >> score.
> >
> > Cite please.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
>
> From www.usga.org Handicap System manual Section 1-1 Purpose:
>
> "A Handicap Index compares a player's scoring ability to the scoring ability
> of a scratch golfer on a course of standard difficulty. A player posts
> scores along with the appropriate USGA Course Rating and Slope Rating to
> make up the scoring record. A Handicap Index is computed from no more than
> 20 scores plus any eligible tournament scores. It reflects the player's
> potential because it is based upon the best handicap differentials posted
> for a given number of rounds, ideally the best 10 of the last 20 rounds."
>
> Note the sentence that begins: "It reflects the player's potential ..."
A player shoots to his handicap 1 out of every 4 rounds he plays.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 12:03:10
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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3putt wrote:
> "Steve Logan" <SteveLogan@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:tKZJg.21225$bZ6.16040@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> > Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> > And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> > middle aged recreation golfer?
> What does middle aged have to do with it? You need lessons. Have a local
> pro take a look.
He NEEDS lessons? Maybe he's perfectly happy shooting 100 every time
out. I know a bunch of guys like that.
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 12:01:29
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Score Varies?
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Steve Logan wrote:
> Been playing solo golf most of the time for past 3 years, enjoying myself.
> And my score varies as much as 20 stokes (90 to 110). Is it normal for
> middle aged recreation golfer?
Sure, usually the higher the handicapper, the larger their scoring
variation.
Also note that score doesn't really indicate how well or poorly you
played. It depends on the difficulty of the course.
My home course is a 72.3/135 rating/slope. A 77 there is like
shooting a 71 at my dad's local muni at 67.8/114
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