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Date: 19 Aug 2006 16:37:16
From: annika1980
Subject: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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I'll give him a 71.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 00:44:17
From: SteveASmith
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
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> I'll give him a 71.
>
Luke Donald has a horseshoe up his ass. This PGA Tournament is the Las Vegas
Open with the winner ending up about -20. I know Medinah couldn't predict
that the weather would slow the greens but this is ridiculous.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 21:59:42
From: Steven Paul
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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In article <1156030636.265624.89130@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
>
Looks like that's a pretty good guess.
The betting line that I see has the over/under at 69.5, but the under
is plus money, while the over is -132 (132 to win 100).
They have the Woods O/U at 68.5, but the under is -131.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 21:36:18
From: Stu D. Baker
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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annika1980 wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
>
Solid 67.
--
R
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 19:06:23
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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dsc wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > I'll give him a 71.
>
> Now predict... what he will need? :)
Tiger shoots 69 to win at 17-under.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:58:58
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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Harrison Bergeron wrote:
> "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>
> > annika1980 wrote:
> > > I'll give him a 71.
> >
> > No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> > rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>
> http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>
> Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
thanks, that is very interesting, but I'm not going to take the time to
compare them day-to-day!
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 18:06:57
From: multi
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 19 Aug 2006 17:58:58 -0700, "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:
>
>Harrison Bergeron wrote:
>> "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>>
>> > annika1980 wrote:
>> > > I'll give him a 71.
>> >
>> > No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>> > rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>>
>> http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>>
>> Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
>thanks, that is very interesting, but I'm not going to take the time to
>compare them day-to-day!
Yeah, who has 20 seconds to spare? That's why I love those herpes
pills that you only have to take once a day.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:01:45
From: Harrison Bergeron
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com > writes:
> Harrison Bergeron wrote:
> > "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
> >
> > > annika1980 wrote:
> > > > I'll give him a 71.
> > >
> > > No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> > > rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
> >
> > http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
> >
> > Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
> thanks, that is very interesting, but I'm not going to take the time to
> compare them day-to-day!
So your hesistance to predict LD's score wasn't
really about not having this data then was it?
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<-- Harry -- >
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:52:36
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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annika1980 wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03
From: Harrison Bergeron
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com > writes:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > I'll give him a 71.
>
> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
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<-- Harry -- >
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:52:15
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
<not_a_valid@address.com > wrote:
>"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>
>> annika1980 wrote:
>> > I'll give him a 71.
>>
>> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>
>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>
>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
wow -- all those pins look to be in some pretty nasty spots. It
doesn't look like there is a single one more than 5 paces from the
edge -- and none in the middle of the greens. And look where that one
on 17 is............ Yikes.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:21:55
From: Harrison Bergeron
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > writes:
> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>
> >"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
> >
> >> annika1980 wrote:
> >> > I'll give him a 71.
> >>
> >> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> >> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
> >
> >http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
> >
> >Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
> wow -- all those pins look to be in some pretty nasty spots. It
> doesn't look like there is a single one more than 5 paces from the
> edge -- and none in the middle of the greens. And look where that one
> on 17 is............ Yikes.
Pins? Is the PGA Championship a bowling tournament?
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<-- Harry -- >
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 10:43:36
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 20 Aug 2006 09:21:55 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
<not_a_valid@address.com > wrote:
>John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> writes:
>
>> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
>> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> annika1980 wrote:
>> >> > I'll give him a 71.
>> >>
>> >> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>> >> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>> >
>> >http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>> >
>> >Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>>
>> wow -- all those pins look to be in some pretty nasty spots. It
>> doesn't look like there is a single one more than 5 paces from the
>> edge -- and none in the middle of the greens. And look where that one
>> on 17 is............ Yikes.
>
>Pins? Is the PGA Championship a bowling tournament?
pins -- you know -- slang for flagstick? Having a rough morning or
something? ;-)
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:19:59
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>annika1980 wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'll give him a 71.
>>>
>>>No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>>>rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>>
>>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>>
>>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
>
> wow -- all those pins look to be in some pretty nasty spots. It
> doesn't look like there is a single one more than 5 paces from the
> edge -- and none in the middle of the greens. And look where that one
> on 17 is............ Yikes.
sheeeit, just hit it long and suck it back to the flag. Just like the
shot you hit all the time :)
Dave
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 10:42:46
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:19:59 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com >
wrote:
>John van der Pflum wrote:
>> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
>> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>annika1980 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I'll give him a 71.
>>>>
>>>>No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>>>>rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>>>
>>>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>>>
>>>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>>
>>
>> wow -- all those pins look to be in some pretty nasty spots. It
>> doesn't look like there is a single one more than 5 paces from the
>> edge -- and none in the middle of the greens. And look where that one
>> on 17 is............ Yikes.
>
>sheeeit, just hit it long and suck it back to the flag. Just like the
>shot you hit all the time :)
>Dave
I have the "suck" part down for my shots but it's not the kind of suck
you want.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 07:49:59
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
<not_a_valid@address.com > wrote:
>"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>
>> annika1980 wrote:
>> > I'll give him a 71.
>>
>> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>
>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>
>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
Where the heck do you find this stuff?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 16:49:24
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:49:59 -0400, John van der Pflum
<jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > wrote:
>>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>>
>>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
>Where the heck do you find this stuff?
How do I see what this points to?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 12:54:16
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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Point to or copy and paste the link into your browser and it will show you
today's pin placements.
It is an Adobe file so my guess is you will need adobe reader.
Otto
"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:ok4he2dj4925b61uec6lhsegrsg1ammoui@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:49:59 -0400, John van der Pflum
> <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> wrote:
>
>>>http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>>>
>>>Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>>
>>Where the heck do you find this stuff?
>
> How do I see what this points to?
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 00:24:03
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 12:54:16 -0400, "Otto"
<ottondebREMove#$@^%!@*&@bellsouth.net > wrote:
>Point to or copy and paste the link into your browser and it will show you
>today's pin placements.
>
>It is an Adobe file so my guess is you will need adobe reader.
Thanks. I recently had to reinstall Windows from scratch and that
didn't get reinstalled.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 09:21:11
From: Harrison Bergeron
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com > writes:
> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>
> >"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
> >
> >> annika1980 wrote:
> >> > I'll give him a 71.
> >>
> >> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> >> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
> >
> >http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
> >
> >Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>
> Where the heck do you find this stuff?
It's under the "Scoring" menu on this page:
http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2006/scoring/index4.html
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 10:42:07
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 20 Aug 2006 09:21:11 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
<not_a_valid@address.com > wrote:
>John van der Pflum <jpflumjr@ughookugh.com> writes:
>
>> On 19 Aug 2006 19:56:03 -0500, Harrison Bergeron
>> <not_a_valid@address.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> annika1980 wrote:
>> >> > I'll give him a 71.
>> >>
>> >> No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
>> >> rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
>> >
>> >http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
>> >
>> >Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
>>
>> Where the heck do you find this stuff?
>
>It's under the "Scoring" menu on this page:
>http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2006/scoring/index4.html
You've got a lot of time on your hands. ;-)
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:10:34
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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It all depends on the weather.
I haven't seen the forecast for tomorrow but if the weather is the same as
today and the winds are the same:
67
Tiger--under 67.
If the winds kick up and it starts raining, par will win the whole thing.
Otto
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
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> I'll give him a 71.
>
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 17:10:42
From: Bob Cotter
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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In article <1156030636.265624.89130@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
I'm predicting a 68.
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 16:59:44
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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annika1980 wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
Now predict... what he will need? :)
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 16:42:54
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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annika1980 wrote:
> I'll give him a 71.
I'll say 68
Tex
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:27:12
From: gary hayenga
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 2006-08-19 19:42:54 -0400, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > said:
>
> annika1980 wrote:
>> I'll give him a 71.
>
> I'll say 68
>
> Tex
I'm going with 68 also.
I'm predicting Tiger shoots 67 though.
I'm hoping Mike Weir shoots another 65 tomorrow, but I'm not predicting it.
gary hayenga
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 00:35:44
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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gary hayenga wrote:
> On 2006-08-19 19:42:54 -0400, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com> said:
>
>>
>> annika1980 wrote:
>>
>>> I'll give him a 71.
>>
>>
>> I'll say 68
>>
>> Tex
>
>
> I'm going with 68 also.
>
> I'm predicting Tiger shoots 67 though.
>
> I'm hoping Mike Weir shoots another 65 tomorrow, but I'm not predicting it.
>
> gary hayenga
>
I agree, LD 68 / TW 67 and a one stroke win, but a three way play off
with Weir would not surprise me at all.
I don't see anyone else making a sucessfull run at it. Possible but not
likely.
Joe
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 20:55:15
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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Weather forecast:
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=60666&hourly=1&yday=231&weekday=Sunday
Items to notice:
Weather much like today but cooler, sunnier, and drier.
No precip
Light winds North to Ne--stronger for the earlier groups but certainly still
in the "light" category.
Lower humidity(could make the fairways and greens faster-especially for the
latter groups)
More sunshine--more drying effect(could make the fairways and greens
faster-especially for the latter groups).
The groups that go out early will have softer fairways and greens but a bit
more wind.
The groups that go in the Pm will have less wind but drier and faster
fairways and greens.
Is the wind Vs turf moisture a wash?
We'll see.
I think Tiger shoots 67 or better and wins. He hits the ball sooo high that
the lesser winds will play to his strengths.
Otto
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 08:16:12
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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Harrison Bergeron wrote:
> "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
>
> > Harrison Bergeron wrote:
> > > "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > annika1980 wrote:
> > > > > I'll give him a 71.
> > > >
> > > > No idea, since i don't know the pin positions compared to the other
> > > > rounds, but I'll say two strokes more than Tiger.
> > >
> > > http://i.pga.com/pga/images/events/2006/pgachampionship/pdf/holes_round_4.pdf
> > >
> > > Change the 4 to a 3, 2, or 1 for comparison purposes.
> >
> > thanks, that is very interesting, but I'm not going to take the time to
> > compare them day-to-day!
>
> So your hesistance to predict LD's score wasn't
> really about not having this data then was it?
Uh, yeah, it was. Seeing a pin position on a map isn't the the only
judge of how tough a pin position is. Of course, I also didn't/don't
know what weather is forecasted or how the greens will be cut. None
of this matters though, since what really matters is what the score is
in respect to Tiger (and the other players). That's what I answered.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 15:23:41
From: Alan Murphy
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
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> I'll give him a 71.
>
I'll give him a 67. If Luke loses this one I'll
give up golf.............until Tuesday :-)
Alan
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 19:56:47
From: Chris
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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Gotta go with 74:-) Nobody took into consideration who he was playing with?
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 13:16:59
From: David
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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On 19 Aug 2006 16:37:16 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
>I'll give him a 71.
I give him a 67.
David
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 23:45:20
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Predict Luke Donald's Sunday score
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"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1156030636.265624.89130@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'll give him a 71.
69
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