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Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14
From: CinderellaBoy
Subject: Players' badge
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I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 22:17:55
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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"CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1156182734.773274.134510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
> badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
> players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
> maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
>
As I mentioned in my reports, it's a money clip that they clipped to their
belts. The merchandise tent was selling something like them, though I don't
think the ones you could buy were the same. This was the only
identification players generally wore, which meant that marshals, security
guards, and others who had to recognize the players to admit them to areas
the general public couldn't go had to look for them.
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 09:28:02
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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CinderellaBoy wrote:
> I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
> badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
> players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
> maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
>
Apart from the answers here, which are most likely the correct ones, it
is also possible that it may be a ball marker clip. These are similar to
badge clips that attach to one's belt or hat etc. and are a magnetic
retainer/holder for a matching ball marker. Quite convenient, marker is
obviously quite similar to a coin, usually with a club/course logo on
the face, and does not have the little spike seen on the cheap plastic ones.
Good sales item in many pro shops here. People think you are a
pro.....until they see your swing!
cheers
david
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 03:31:32
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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"david s-a" <dsantwyk@bigpond.net.au > wrote in message
>>..........................
> Apart from the answers here, which are most likely the correct ones, it is
> also possible that it may be a ball marker clip. These are similar to
> badge clips that attach to one's belt or hat etc. and are a magnetic
> retainer/holder for a matching ball marker. Quite convenient, marker is
> obviously quite similar to a coin, usually with a club/course logo on the
> face, and does not have the little spike seen on the cheap plastic ones.
>
> Good sales item in many pro shops here. People think you are a
> pro.....until they see your swing!
>
Ah David, but not among the tour pros, at least in the US. Most of them are
like baseball players, in that whether they admit it or not, they're
superstitious. The majority have one or more special markers which mean
something to them. Old St. Christopher is pretty common, on Sunday. It
might be some kind of funny-money, or an old coin, all the way up to a
manhole cover, like a silver dollar.
Back to ID badges, in these times, security is more serious than ever
before. They wear them with pride, but more importantly, they wear them to
get through the proper doors without getting handcuffed, since not every
face is recognized out there, and it would be unwise and uncool to assume
the entire world knows who you are, even if you're T or P.
Rest assured that T & P paid their respects in some way, regardless of
whether they chose to wear the black.
Unc
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:20:21
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
> > be publicly acknowledge.
>
> Doesn't have to be, but it's humane if it is.
>
> William Clark
I'm not sure if I agree with you, William.
It can be akin to bumper stickers on your auto, or, how boldly you
celebrate your religious inclinations. While I agree that it certainly
is "humane" and a show of support/respect for a colleague, I don't feel
that by *not* doing it, that it makes you "inhumane". I don't feel any
differently towards T & P for not wearing them.
What *did* impress me was how Darren handled it a couple of weeks ago
during a pre-tourney interview. If you are going to show a colleague
support, I would hope the recipient takes it with as much class as DC
showed on that interview.
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 23:16:02
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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In article <1156202421.246275.252480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn.com > wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > > Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
> > > be publicly acknowledge.
> >
> > Doesn't have to be, but it's humane if it is.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> I'm not sure if I agree with you, William.
>
> It can be akin to bumper stickers on your auto, or, how boldly you
> celebrate your religious inclinations. While I agree that it certainly
> is "humane" and a show of support/respect for a colleague, I don't feel
> that by *not* doing it, that it makes you "inhumane". I don't feel any
> differently towards T & P for not wearing them.
>
> What *did* impress me was how Darren handled it a couple of weeks ago
> during a pre-tourney interview. If you are going to show a colleague
> support, I would hope the recipient takes it with as much class as DC
> showed on that interview.
Yes, but I think these guys are a lot closer than some cause you stick a
bumper sticker on your car for. They are in the locker room together,
and they are in each others company and competition for probably 20-30
weeks a year.
I think that there should be some sense of brotherhood in that.
William Clark
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 18:01:23
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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dugjustdug wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
>
>>>Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
>>>be publicly acknowledge.
>>
>>Doesn't have to be, but it's humane if it is.
>>
>>William Clark
>
>
> I'm not sure if I agree with you, William.
>
> It can be akin to bumper stickers on your auto, or, how boldly you
> celebrate your religious inclinations. While I agree that it certainly
> is "humane" and a show of support/respect for a colleague, I don't feel
> that by *not* doing it, that it makes you "inhumane". I don't feel any
> differently towards T & P for not wearing them.
>
> What *did* impress me was how Darren handled it a couple of weeks ago
> during a pre-tourney interview. If you are going to show a colleague
> support, I would hope the recipient takes it with as much class as DC
> showed on that interview.
>
agreed about DC! And, who knows what T or P did earlier or said to DC in
the background to show there respect. I'm sure it was something, because
to not wear the little black ribbon would, IMO, be an insult unless
something were taken care of otherwise...
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:04:39
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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On 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14 -0700, "CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com > wrote:
>I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
>badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
>players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
>maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
It's the badge that shows they are members of the PGA (Professional
Golfer's Association). You can ask the pro at your local course and
he'll have on as well.
--
jvdp
The only way to beat me is to make a hole in one
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 11:44:42
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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John van der Pflum wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14 -0700, "CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
>>badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
>>players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
>>maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
>
>
> It's the badge that shows they are members of the PGA (Professional
> Golfer's Association). You can ask the pro at your local course and
> he'll have on as well.
speaking of "badges" I noticed that Phil and Tiger were about the only
ones not wearing the black ribbon for Heather Clark. Wonder why not?
Seems rather odd...
Dave
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:45:21
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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long&left wrote:
> John van der Pflum wrote:
>> On 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14 -0700, "CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
>>> badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
>>> players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
>>> maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
>>
>>
>> It's the badge that shows they are members of the PGA (Professional
>> Golfer's Association). You can ask the pro at your local course and
>> he'll have on as well.
>
> speaking of "badges" I noticed that Phil and Tiger were about the only
> ones not wearing the black ribbon for Heather Clark. Wonder why not?
> Seems rather odd...
> Dave
Once you start wearing the ribbon du jour you have a hard time saying no
tomorrow.
Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
be publicly acknowledge.
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:53:51
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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In article <beadnSogBcz6hnfZnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com >,
Bert Robbins <screw@you.com > wrote:
> long&left wrote:
> > John van der Pflum wrote:
> >> On 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14 -0700, "CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
> >>> badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
> >>> players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
> >>> maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
> >>
> >>
> >> It's the badge that shows they are members of the PGA (Professional
> >> Golfer's Association). You can ask the pro at your local course and
> >> he'll have on as well.
> >
> > speaking of "badges" I noticed that Phil and Tiger were about the only
> > ones not wearing the black ribbon for Heather Clark. Wonder why not?
> > Seems rather odd...
> > Dave
>
> Once you start wearing the ribbon du jour you have a hard time saying no
> tomorrow.
Excellent point. Once we start wearing tokens of acknowledgment
expressing support for our peers at their time of tragedy, then who
knows where that will end? Perish the very thought - even the sponsors'
logos might get obscured. Tut, tut.
>
> Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
> be publicly acknowledge.
Doesn't have to be, but it's humane if it is.
William Clark
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 14:35:29
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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Bert Robbins wrote:
> long&left wrote:
>
>> John van der Pflum wrote:
>>
>>> On 21 Aug 2006 10:52:14 -0700, "CinderellaBoy" <jbahel@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I notice this week that most of the players seemed to have some sort of
>>>> badge riding on their belts next to the belt buckle. Was that the
>>>> players' badge? I'm used to seeing them on their hats and wondered if
>>>> maybe it wasn't some new sort of sponsor tool.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's the badge that shows they are members of the PGA (Professional
>>> Golfer's Association). You can ask the pro at your local course and
>>> he'll have on as well.
>>
>>
>> speaking of "badges" I noticed that Phil and Tiger were about the only
>> ones not wearing the black ribbon for Heather Clark. Wonder why not?
>> Seems rather odd...
>> Dave
>
>
> Once you start wearing the ribbon du jour you have a hard time saying no
> tomorrow.
huh?
>
> Expressing sympathy to someone who has lost a loved one does not have to
> be publicly acknowledge.
of course not, but that's not an answer to my question which was "why
only Phil and Tiger?"
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 09:09:21
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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William A. T. Clark wrote:
> Yes, but I think these guys are a lot closer than some cause you stick a
> bumper sticker on your car for. They are in the locker room together,
> and they are in each others company and competition for probably 20-30
> weeks a year.
>
> I think that there should be some sense of brotherhood in that.
>
> William Clark
No arguement there. Many speculate that the reason the Euro's do so
well v. USA in match play is due to the comradarie (sic?) they share on
the east side of the pond. Staying in the same hotels & eating at the
same restaurants during their tour, etc. I don't feel American pros go
out of their way to associate with the group as a whole, though, many
develop close friendships with a few of their competitors.
RE: The bumper sticker metaphor - My point was that different people
express themselves differently about things. I certainly wasn't
comparing the support of a competitor's personal misfortune to some
sillouette of a kid peeing on a Chevy emblem.
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 20:21:31
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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In article <1156262961.668947.232910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
"dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn.com > wrote:
> William A. T. Clark wrote:
> > Yes, but I think these guys are a lot closer than some cause you stick a
> > bumper sticker on your car for. They are in the locker room together,
> > and they are in each others company and competition for probably 20-30
> > weeks a year.
> >
> > I think that there should be some sense of brotherhood in that.
> >
> > William Clark
>
> No arguement there. Many speculate that the reason the Euro's do so
> well v. USA in match play is due to the comradarie (sic?) they share on
> the east side of the pond. Staying in the same hotels & eating at the
> same restaurants during their tour, etc. I don't feel American pros go
> out of their way to associate with the group as a whole, though, many
> develop close friendships with a few of their competitors.
I agree there - the European Tour is much more of a "Tour" than the PGA,
and the players fraternize a lot more. Makes it easier when you have to
play for each other.
>
> RE: The bumper sticker metaphor - My point was that different people
> express themselves differently about things. I certainly wasn't
> comparing the support of a competitor's personal misfortune to some
> sillouette of a kid peeing on a Chevy emblem.
Accepted.
William Clark
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 22:02:20
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: Players' badge
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"dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn.com > wrote in message
> ............................
> RE: The bumper sticker metaphor - My point was that different people
> express themselves differently about things. I certainly wasn't
> comparing the support of a competitor's personal misfortune to some
> sillouette of a kid peeing on a Chevy emblem.
>
Speaking of bumper stickers..........
A guy pulled up to a gas pump, right in front of us. He had his tailgate
plastered with bumper stickers. Each one made some sense, individually, but
the overkill made it look like one big bumper sticker. It means: "Look,
I'm nuts!"
Best redneck bumper sticker seen this summer:
ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms) Below, it read: Got all that. Who's
bringin' the chips?
;-{
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