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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:41:41
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Not a Dimes Worth of Difference
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This is why you Democrats shouldn't get your hopes up.
From the NY Times:
"WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 After railing for months against Congressional
corruption under Republican rule, Democrats on Capitol Hill are
divided on how far their proposed ethics overhaul should go.
Democratic leaders in the House and the Senate, mindful that voters in
the midterm election cited corruption as a major concern, say they are
moving quickly to finalize a package of changes for consideration as
soon as the new Congress convenes in January.
Their initial proposals, laid out earlier this year, would prohibit
members from accepting meals, gifts or travel from lobbyists, require
lobbyists to disclose all contacts with lawmakers and bar former
lawmakers-turned-lobbyists from entering the floor of the chambers or
Congressional gymnasiums.
None of the measures would overhaul campaign financing or create an
independent ethics watchdog to enforce the rules. Nor would they
significantly restrict earmarks, the pet projects lawmakers can
anonymously insert into spending bills, which have figured in several
recent corruption scandals and attracted criticism from members in
both parties. The proposals would require disclosure of the sponsors
of some earmarks, but not all."
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:13:05
From: multi
Subject: Re: Not a Dimes Worth of Difference
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:41:41 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com >
wrote:
>None of the measures would overhaul campaign financing or create an
>independent ethics watchdog to enforce the rules.
Maybe we should wait until the new members actually take office before
we complain about how little they are doing.
I did notice that St. McCain's campaign finance reform has a provision
that senators can use whatever money they raised in their senatorial
campaigns to run for President, but governors can't use any money from
their gubernatorial campaigns. This really stacks the deck against
governors. The last time a senator was elected President on his own
merits was 1960. Every president since Nixon who won on his own has
been a governor.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 16:05:07
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Not a Dimes Worth of Difference
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Gubernatorial money was raised under state laws. Senatorial money under
Federal laws. McCain-Feingold prohibits using state money in Federal
elections as a method to get around federal campaign finance laws..
"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
news:r6e1m2992vqeh2v8c9tq55773kuqbp3eqj@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:41:41 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>None of the measures would overhaul campaign financing or create an
>>independent ethics watchdog to enforce the rules.
>
> Maybe we should wait until the new members actually take office before
> we complain about how little they are doing.
>
> I did notice that St. McCain's campaign finance reform has a provision
> that senators can use whatever money they raised in their senatorial
> campaigns to run for President, but governors can't use any money from
> their gubernatorial campaigns. This really stacks the deck against
> governors. The last time a senator was elected President on his own
> merits was 1960. Every president since Nixon who won on his own has
> been a governor.
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