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Date: 18 Sep 2006 17:53:31
From: The Hammer
Subject: Let's stop it

It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.

When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.

Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
other.

Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
going forward to see that is stays that way.

Thanks for listening. Take care guys

The Hammer

Date: 19 Sep 2006 00:54:42
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment.

I'm sure it will be, it usually is when you're not here.

>I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>

Unlikely, but an amusing fantasy.

Date: 18 Sep 2006 23:44:03
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

I've seen this movie before.

Randy

"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>
> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> other.
>
> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>
> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>
> The Hammer
>

Date: 19 Sep 2006 00:53:39
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Yeah, but this remake is in IMAX 3-D. It's bigger, better and more in your
face.

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:Mb-dnX3muq3t-pLYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> I've seen this movie before.
>
> Randy
>
> "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
>> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
>> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
>> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
>> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
>> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
>> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>>
>> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
>> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
>> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
>> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
>> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
>> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
>> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>>
>> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
>> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
>> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
>> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
>> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
>> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
>> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
>> other.
>>
>> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
>> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
>> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
>> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>>
>> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>>
>> The Hammer
>>
>
>

Date: 19 Sep 2006 15:46:25
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message

> I've seen this movie before.

So have the masses.

I've stayed completely out of this fray, but it's only fair to mention,
ironically, that the one and only time I ever wrote a "peace-nick" post to
RSG, Mr. manic-depressive-drama-queen was the one who jumped in and pissed
all over it. So, see ya Eric. Don't let the door hit you in the
potato-shoot.

Unc

Date: 19 Sep 2006 05:10:39
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"R&B" wrote:

> I've seen this movie before.

Ground Hog Day?

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Date: 18 Sep 2006 20:32:40
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>
> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> other.
>
> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>
> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>
> The Hammer

You know, Eric, no one asked you to leave, that I'm aware of,
anyway. But then again, no one asked you to start the
various "CumWad" and "Hemmaroid" threads, either. But
one has to wonder about the timing of your departure and
"the big bet". Has the check been wriiten to the Alzheimers
Foundation yet? :-)

Here's an idea, instead of slinking off, why don't you be
up front about it, and say something like, "OK guys, you
got me, I don't really have 3 degrees, all summa cum laude.
I actually have one degree with a double major, SCL,
and an associates degree where I finished 2nd in my class.
But I aint paying up, so sue me!"

Or whatever the truth may be.

Date: 18 Sep 2006 22:28:09
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I

Well I've been reading this group for several years. The cast changes
but the plots and episodes are remarkably similar - brainless trolls,
idiotic yappers, holier-than-thous, and well-meaning soapboxers.

IMO the key is to never spend too much time here, and never expect much
serious dialogue. Any more mental or emotional investment will be a big
let-down.

Perhaps it'd be different if I attended a few of the local events, but I
hardly have time to play practice rounds, so oh well.

Dave

Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:44:58
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

long&left wrote:

> I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
> see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks

I'd like to see your K-1 that declares you make 40k/mo.

-Greg

Date: 19 Sep 2006 06:49:54
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Dene wrote:
> long&left wrote:
>
>> I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
>> see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks
>
> I'd like to see your K-1 that declares you make 40k/mo.
>
> -Greg
>

I'm sure you would. I didn't say that I made 40k per month, I said I
make 3 or 4 times as much as you do. You pick your year in the last 5
and send me your tax return and I'll do the same. I'll take '01. Or we
can average the last 5 years if you like. If I would have known that I
was going to have to prove my income level to you I wouldn't have taken
a half of a year off in '03, '04, and '05 to travel and play golf and I
would have gone to work before April 20 this year.

OR, let's have even more fun and compare number of golf rounds for the
last couple of years.
Dave

Date: 19 Sep 2006 10:33:24
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com > wrote in message
news:4ASPg.878$_h1.394@newsfe04.lga...
> Dene wrote:
>> long&left wrote:
>>
> I'm sure you would. I didn't say that I made 40k per month, I said I make
> 3 or 4 times as much as you do. You pick your year in the last 5 and send
> me your tax return and I'll do the same. I'll take '01. Or we can average
> the last 5 years if you like. If I would have known that I was going to
> have to prove my income level to you I wouldn't have taken a half of a
> year off in '03, '04, and '05 to travel and play golf and I would have
> gone to work before April 20 this year.
>
> OR, let's have even more fun and compare number of golf rounds for the
> last couple of years.
> Dave

Sounds good, though the bet HAS to be for $5,000, otherwise it's not worth
anyone's while. And the money has to be held in escrow. Since I spoke to
Bill-O this weekend and found out he planned to use the 5K for a golf trip
to the Dominican Republic, we can no longer consider him trustworthy.

Considering that, I have decided to step up for the good of RSG and hold the
escrow for you sweethearts. You can send the money and the tax returns to
me, make sure your social security numbers are plainly visible, and I will
be judge, jury and hangman.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 09:34:52
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Steve S wrote:
> "long&left" <nospam@diespammers.com> wrote in message
> news:4ASPg.878$_h1.394@newsfe04.lga...
>> Dene wrote:
>>> long&left wrote:
>>>
>> I'm sure you would. I didn't say that I made 40k per month, I said I make
>> 3 or 4 times as much as you do. You pick your year in the last 5 and send
>> me your tax return and I'll do the same. I'll take '01. Or we can average
>> the last 5 years if you like. If I would have known that I was going to
>> have to prove my income level to you I wouldn't have taken a half of a
>> year off in '03, '04, and '05 to travel and play golf and I would have
>> gone to work before April 20 this year.
>>
>> OR, let's have even more fun and compare number of golf rounds for the
>> last couple of years.
>> Dave
>
> Sounds good, though the bet HAS to be for $5,000, otherwise it's not worth
> anyone's while. And the money has to be held in escrow. Since I spoke to
> Bill-O this weekend and found out he planned to use the 5K for a golf trip
> to the Dominican Republic, we can no longer consider him trustworthy.
>
> Considering that, I have decided to step up for the good of RSG and hold the
> escrow for you sweethearts. You can send the money and the tax returns to
> me, make sure your social security numbers are plainly visible, and I will
> be judge, jury and hangman.
>
>

check's in the mail dude...you can trust me :)

Date: 19 Sep 2006 18:47:57
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Steve S wrote:

> Sounds good, though the bet HAS to be for $5,000, otherwise it's not worth
> anyone's while. And the money has to be held in escrow. Since I spoke to
> Bill-O this weekend and found out he planned to use the 5K for a golf trip
> to the Dominican Republic, we can no longer consider him trustworthy.
>
> Considering that, I have decided to step up for the good of RSG and hold the
> escrow for you sweethearts. You can send the money and the tax returns to
> me, make sure your social security numbers are plainly visible, and I will
> be judge, jury and hangman.

I guess that new engine was a tad more than you thought.

David

Date: 20 Sep 2006 05:16:57
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

On 19-Sep-2006, "Steve S" <none@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:

> Sounds good, though the bet HAS to be for $5,000, otherwise it's not worth
> anyone's while. And the money has to be held in escrow. Since I spoke to
> Bill-O this weekend and found out he planned to use the 5K for a golf trip
>
> to the Dominican Republic, we can no longer consider him trustworthy.

Esp�ce d'encul�!

(that's french for either Damn you Yankee or Get in the Minivan, take your
pick)

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.

Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:43:28
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Chris Bellomy wrote:
> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> : I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.
>
> See, Greg, he just did it again.

Hmmm....did he say he's not coming back? I think he (and I) have
learned his lesson in that regard.

-Greg

Date: 22 Sep 2006 16:41:42
From: IcUrdazedandconfused
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

On 18 Sep 2006 19:43:28 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:

>
>Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> : I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.
>>
>> See, Greg, he just did it again.
>
>Hmmm....did he say he's not coming back? I think he (and I) have
>learned his lesson in that regard.
>
>-Greg

I won a dozen balls from him on one of Eric's hiatus'
:)

Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:34:45
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>
> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> other.
>
> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>
> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>
> The Hammer
Yeah, it=B4s healthy to take a hiatus from usenet every now and then. I
always do - sometimes for months, a year, or even longer. Usenet is
like some celestial caf=E9 where everybody wears a mask. A few will
accept you, others don=B4t. In the end it doesn=B4t matter. It=B4s only
words. A bit naive to become offended. We sometimes have a pale sort of
fun. We get swing advices too - crap mostly, but not all of it. And
when you die nobody really cares. So, after all, RSG is human destiny
in a nutshell. F

Date: 19 Sep 2006 03:23:28
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158633285.175458.132370@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>And when you die nobody really cares. So, after all, RSG is human destiny
>in a nutshell. F

An odd but probably correct observation. Food for thought.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 23:14:49
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:23:28 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<fketchum@earthlinknospaam.net > wrote:

>
> "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158633285.175458.132370@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >And when you die nobody really cares.

Speak for yourself. When you die, will nobody care?
How sad.

Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:23:13
From: Bob Cotter
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

In article <1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote:

> ... Take care guys

Take care of yourself, too, Eric.
Cheers... Bob

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Date: 19 Sep 2006 01:55:59
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

X-No-Archive: yes

The Hammer wrote:

> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>
> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> other.
>
> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>
> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>

It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth. I think of it as the
balck helicopter mentality. They cannot be so irrelevant that no one cares,
so the blackhelicopters must be out to get them. Here, if you indicate you
don't care, they try to make you care. A very typical psychosis of usenet
newsgroups. Only a few of these characters, but they are enough. You want
to talk golf, you have to go somewhere else. Doesn't mean you can't meet
good people here though, and get together from time to time, as we have
done many times.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 03:31:21
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Robert Hamilton wrote:
> The Hammer wrote:
>
>>It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
>>
>>Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
>>certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
>>will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
>>going forward to see that is stays that way.
>>
>>Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>>
>
> It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
> paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
> involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
> and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
> their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
> try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth.

Spoken like a true paranoid schizophrenic!

Rob

Date: 19 Sep 2006 03:42:50
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Rob Davis wrote:

> Robert Hamilton wrote:
> > The Hammer wrote:
> >
> >>It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> >>
> >>Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> >>certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> >>will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> >>going forward to see that is stays that way.
> >>
> >>Thanks for listening. Take care guys
> >>
> >
> > It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
> > paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
> > involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
> > and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
> > their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
> > try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth.
>
> Spoken like a true paranoid schizophrenic!
>
>

Really? You are replying to me here. You won't find me caring a fig for anything
you write!

Rob

Date: 19 Sep 2006 04:43:39
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Robert Hamilton wrote:
>
> Rob Davis wrote:
>
>
>>Robert Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>The Hammer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
>>>>certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
>>>>will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
>>>>going forward to see that is stays that way.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
>>>paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
>>>involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
>>>and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
>>>their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
>>>try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth.
>>
>>Spoken like a true paranoid schizophrenic!
>>
>
> Really? You are replying to me here. You won't find me caring a fig for anything
> you write!
>
> Rob
>

Aha !! You're replying to me ... you must care!

Rob (not the other Rob).

Date: 18 Sep 2006 19:07:09
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Robert Hamilton wrote:
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> The Hammer wrote:
>
>> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
>> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
>> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
>> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
>> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
>> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
>> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>>
>> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
>> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
>> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
>> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
>> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
>> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
>> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>>
>> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
>> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
>> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
>> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
>> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
>> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
>> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
>> other.
>>
>> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
>> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
>> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
>> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>>
>> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>>
>
> It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
> paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
> involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
> and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
> their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
> try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth. I think of it as the
> balck helicopter mentality. They cannot be so irrelevant that no one cares,
> so the blackhelicopters must be out to get them. Here, if you indicate you
> don't care, they try to make you care. A very typical psychosis of usenet
> newsgroups. Only a few of these characters, but they are enough. You want
> to talk golf, you have to go somewhere else. Doesn't mean you can't meet
> good people here though, and get together from time to time, as we have
> done many times.
>

I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks

oh, and you need to type much more slowly...your spelling is atrocious
for a Professor

Date: 18 Sep 2006 18:34:19
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.>

See you when you pop back around. Should be interesting to see what
kind of pot shots are taken in the next few hours........

Date: 19 Sep 2006 01:29:52
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote:

: I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.

See, Greg, he just did it again.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 19 Sep 2006 01:07:33
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.

Hear hear! Get to it.

> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.

Oh well, it lasted a half second.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 08:44:03
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

long&left wrote:
> Dene wrote:
> > long&left wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
> >> see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks
> >
> > I'd like to see your K-1 that declares you make 40k/mo.
> >
> > -Greg
> >
>
> I'm sure you would. I didn't say that I made 40k per month, I said I
> make 3 or 4 times as much as you do.

3 times my income is $31,250/mo. 4 times is $41,666/mo.

You pick your year in the last 5
> and send me your tax return and I'll do the same. I'll take '01. Or we
> can average the last 5 years if you like. If I would have known that I
> was going to have to prove my income level to you I wouldn't have taken
> a half of a year off in '03, '04, and '05 to travel and play golf and I
> would have gone to work before April 20 this year.
>
> OR, let's have even more fun and compare number of golf rounds for the
> last couple of years.
> Dave

Nah....neither are interesting to me.

-Greg

Date: 19 Sep 2006 09:34:06
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Dene wrote:
> long&left wrote:
>> Dene wrote:
>>> long&left wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
>>>> see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks
>>> I'd like to see your K-1 that declares you make 40k/mo.
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>> I'm sure you would. I didn't say that I made 40k per month, I said I
>> make 3 or 4 times as much as you do.
>
> 3 times my income is $31,250/mo. 4 times is $41,666/mo.
>
> You pick your year in the last 5
>> and send me your tax return and I'll do the same. I'll take '01. Or we
>> can average the last 5 years if you like. If I would have known that I
>> was going to have to prove my income level to you I wouldn't have taken
>> a half of a year off in '03, '04, and '05 to travel and play golf and I
>> would have gone to work before April 20 this year.
>>
>> OR, let's have even more fun and compare number of golf rounds for the
>> last couple of years.
>> Dave
>
> Nah....neither are interesting to me.
>
> -Greg
>

it wasn't to me either but you asked...

Date: 19 Sep 2006 07:19:41
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Dene wrote:
> long&left wrote:
>
> > I'm not smart enough to be a paranoid schizophrenic, I'd just like to
> > see his 3 degrees with honors...funny how that's slipped through the cracks
>
> I'd like to see your K-1 that declares you make 40k/mo.

K-1 ? What does that have to do with Income?

"The fiduciary of a decedent's estate or trust uses Schedule
K-1 to report your share of the estate's or trust's income,
credits, deductions, etc. Keep it for your records. Do not file it
with your tax return. A copy has been filed with the IRS."

Maybe Greggie-Poo is living off Mommy/Daddy trust fund?

Tex

Date: 19 Sep 2006 06:34:39
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> "R&B" wrote:
> > I've seen this movie before.
>
> Randy, if I ever said or meant anything in my life, this was it.
>
> The best of luck to you and I sincerely mean it

That was a pretty nice qualifier.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 06:30:08
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"R&B" wrote:
> I've seen this movie before.
>
Damn, is it Tuesday already?

Date: 19 Sep 2006 05:00:00
From: The Hammer
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"R&B" wrote:
> I've seen this movie before.
>
> Randy
>

Randy, if I ever said or meant anything in my life, this was it.

The best of luck to you and I sincerely mean it

The Hammer

Date: 19 Sep 2006 08:08:05
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158667200.869450.97430@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> "R&B" wrote:
>> I've seen this movie before.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
> Randy, if I ever said or meant anything in my life, this was it.
>
> The best of luck to you and I sincerely mean it
>
> The Hammer
>

I told you last week, I saw the start of the pharmaceuticals kicking in. I
believe we now have our proof.

See you in a few months, say hello to Nurse Ratchet for me.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 14:37:04
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote ...
>
> "R&B" wrote:
>> I've seen this movie before.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>
> Randy, if I ever said or meant anything in my life, this was it.
>
> The best of luck to you and I sincerely mean it
>
> The Hammer

Every word you've ever uttered here has been proven false....usually by your
own actions.

Get lost. What a loser.

Randy

Date: 19 Sep 2006 03:14:20
From: Noons
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:

> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.

didn't know it had one?

> Thanks for listening. Take care guys

You too. FWIW, agree with most of what you said.
I just got tired of wasting my time with the bunch
of caged monkeys who insist on making this ng
their own little noisy online mag. All for the lack
of courage of setting up one of their own.

Apart from half a dozen who still retain a smidgeon of
a sense of humour, the place is a desert in both social
AND golf interaction. Not worth wasting one's time in.

Date: 19 Sep 2006 09:56:52
From: Kenny Stultz
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

In article <1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
buggertt@yahoo.com says...
>

>
>Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
>certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
>will be to a more postive environment.

Why? You'd just do your best to fuck it up.

--
Kenny Stultz - Troll and SPAM intolerant
"Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can
earn one a reputation for bad sportsmanship"

Date: 19 Sep 2006 12:40:46
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Kenny Stultz <kstultz@comcast.net > wrote:
: In article <1158627211.098737.96580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
: buggertt@yahoo.com says...
: >
:
: >
: >Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
: >certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
: >will be to a more postive environment.
:
: Why? You'd just do your best to fuck it up.

I think you just answered your own question.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/

Date: 19 Sep 2006 10:33:35
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

And this from the dick that's been spouting crap piles.
Tran

Date: 19 Sep 2006 15:23:33
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Rob Davis wrote:
> Robert Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Rob Davis wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Robert Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>>The Hammer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> >>>>
> >>>>Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> >>>>certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> >>>>will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> >>>>going forward to see that is stays that way.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for listening. Take care guys
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>It's a nice sentiment, but the people you are talking about are a bunch of
> >>>paranoid schizophrenics. Anything you post that isn't about them or doesn't
> >>>involve them is, in their mind, some sort of threat, some sort of plot. You
> >>>and I getting together, playing some golf and talking about it here is, in
> >>>their eyes, an attempt to one up them. If you are not out to get them, and
> >>>try to say so, you threten thier sense of self worth.
> >>
> >>Spoken like a true paranoid schizophrenic!
> >>
> >
> > Really? You are replying to me here. You won't find me caring a fig for anything
> > you write!
> >
> > Rob
> >
>
> Aha !! You're replying to me ... you must care!
>
> Rob (not the other Rob).

Ahhh, but you replied to me first! ...and now again...you must be
obsessed with me to be hounding me like this!

;^)

Rob (the real Rob).

Date: 19 Sep 2006 14:23:56
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Steve S wrote:
> Sounds good, though the bet HAS to be for $5,000, otherwise it's not worth
> anyone's while. And the money has to be held in escrow. Since I spoke to
> Bill-O this weekend and found out he planned to use the 5K for a golf trip
> to the Dominican Republic, we can no longer consider him trustworthy.
>
> Considering that, I have decided to step up for the good of RSG and hold the
> escrow for you sweethearts. You can send the money and the tax returns to
> me, make sure your social security numbers are plainly visible, and I will
> be judge, jury and hangman.

Not so fast there, Yankee Redneck! I already bought suntan lotion!

Date: 19 Sep 2006 11:05:24
From: larryrsf
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

The Hammer wrote:
> It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
>
> When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
>
> Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> other.
>
> Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> going forward to see that is stays that way.
>
> Thanks for listening. Take care guys
>
> The Hammer

Hi Hammer,

I waited to let them do what you and everyone knew they would--

Forget being "sincere" with a bunch of guys who post on RSG primarily
because they enjoy the anonmity of the Internet and especially the lack
of "rules" on the Usenet. They may be fine in person, but like some
women drivers, this isolation gives them the opportunity to enjoy their
hatred-- and it is deep and wide. Those who are regulars here are
nasty SOBs. Forget being "nice" to them because they are NOT
interested in being nice to you or anyone; that is not fun for them.

Larry (King of RSG!!!)

Date: 19 Sep 2006 18:35:01
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Eric Strulowitz

"R&B" wrote:
>
> Right. When I think education, I think Mississippi.
>

To paraphrase one of our cart boys, "Mississippi is ranked like 52nd in
education."

Date: 19 Sep 2006 20:52:44
From: Ernie
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

In article <1158689124.158258.135590@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"larryrsf" <larry@delmardata.com > wrote:

> The Hammer wrote:
> > It is maybe time we all stepped back and took a good look at oursleves.
> > For those of us, that have forgotten that this group is about golf and
> > it's betterment, and not a place for personal vendettas and soapboxes.
> > I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG. The fighting, cliques,
> > inroading, etc just don't make it a fun place to be anymore. It is not
> > me, or you, or any specific one of us, it is a lot of us. It is a
> > collective blame, not one for a given individual or a given clique.
> >
> > When it gets so personal, that some would even consider calling one's
> > employer, or that posts go on for days about a particular individual,
> > it is time to say enough is enough. There are a lot of tensions and
> > rivalries on this group. Yet, individually, you are delightful people.
> > There is something about being distanced from others, sometimes by
> > thousands of miles or even with an ocean in between, that makes
> > perfectly normal and delightful folks behave in a very strange way.
> >
> > Please don't flame me or start another 200+ post thread over this. I
> > am begging you to keep this serious. Let us just realize that we are
> > all individuals. We bring to this forum all types of issues personal
> > and professional. We need to leave these issues behind when we come
> > here. Golfing has brought more joy to my life than you can imagine.
> > For many of you, I am sure the same applies. Let us going forward
> > translate the joy golf brings us to more postive interactions with each
> > other.
> >
> > Good luck to everyone here. . Hope you'all can work it out, I will
> > certainly am all for it. And if I ever decide to return, I hope it
> > will be to a more postive environment. I will certainly do my share
> > going forward to see that is stays that way.
> >
> > Thanks for listening. Take care guys
> >
> > The Hammer
>
> Hi Hammer,
>
> I waited to let them do what you and everyone knew they would--
>
> Forget being "sincere" with a bunch of guys who post on RSG primarily
> because they enjoy the anonmity of the Internet and especially the lack
> of "rules" on the Usenet. They may be fine in person, but like some
> women drivers, this isolation gives them the opportunity to enjoy their
> hatred-- and it is deep and wide. Those who are regulars here are
> nasty SOBs. Forget being "nice" to them because they are NOT
> interested in being nice to you or anyone; that is not fun for them.
>
> Larry (King of RSG!!!)

I didn't realize that in addition to all your other faults you were a
bigot, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Date: 20 Sep 2006 10:33:07
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

larryrsf wrote:
> > Nothing worse than a little chick with big hair driving a black Camaro
> with dents on both sides and red cellophane taped over the broken tail
> lights, expired license plates. She will run right over you if you
> challenge her! When she turns that key she goes into a fury--
> tailgates, speeds, runs stop lights, and shakes her fist or flips off
> any transgressor.
>
> But when she is out of the car she is charming. Amazing.
A vivid and entertaining description. Your pals Ernie and Carbon only
look at the cars, not the chicks who drive them. F

Date: 20 Sep 2006 09:09:54
From: larryrsf
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Fairway wrote:
> Carbon wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:05:24 -0700, larryrsf wrote:
> >
> > > They may be fine in person, but like some women drivers, this isolati=
on
> > > gives them the opportunity to enjoy their hatred-- and it is deep and
> > > wide.
> >
> > Get help.
> Why should he get HELP? Maybe he=B4s right. Anyway it=B4s his opinion.
> Yesterday while I was driving through the city center I was eying all
> the lonely women drivers and I thought: oh my, such hatred, so deep and
> wide!

Don't cross one of them! You can get flipped off by a nun!.

Nothing worse than a little chick with big hair driving a black Camaro
with dents on both sides and red cellophane taped over the broken tail
lights, expired license plates. She will run right over you if you
challenge her! When she turns that key she goes into a fury--
tailgates, speeds, runs stop lights, and shakes her fist or flips off
any transgressor.

But when she is out of the car she is charming. Amazing. =20

Larry

Date:
From:
Subject:

Date: 20 Sep 2006 18:00:52
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

larryrsf wrote:

> Don't cross one of them! You can get flipped off by a nun!.
>
> Nothing worse than a little chick with big hair driving a black Camaro
> with dents on both sides and red cellophane taped over the broken tail
> lights, expired license plates. She will run right over you if you
> challenge her! When she turns that key she goes into a fury--
> tailgates, speeds, runs stop lights, and shakes her fist or flips off
> any transgressor.
>
> But when she is out of the car she is charming. Amazing.
>
> Larry

She's probably late for her Members Mixed Doubles tee time at Morgan Run.

David

Date: 20 Sep 2006 08:46:20
From:
Subject: Re: Let's stop it/SAVE FOR THE RECORD

Date: 20 Sep 2006 04:58:24
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Carbon wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:05:24 -0700, larryrsf wrote:
>
> > They may be fine in person, but like some women drivers, this isolation
> > gives them the opportunity to enjoy their hatred-- and it is deep and
> > wide.
>
> Get help.
Why should he get HELP? Maybe he=B4s right. Anyway it=B4s his opinion.
Yesterday while I was driving through the city center I was eying all
the lonely women drivers and I thought: oh my, such hatred, so deep and
wide! F

Date: 20 Sep 2006 04:55:03
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

Peter Strauss wrote:
> > >And when you die nobody really cares.
>
> Speak for yourself. When you die, will nobody care?
> How sad.
Actually I was thinking of YOU :)

Date: 22 Sep 2006 15:27:20
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> On 18 Sep 2006 19:43:28 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Chris Bellomy wrote:
> >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> : I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.
> >>
> >> See, Greg, he just did it again.
> >
> >Hmmm....did he say he's not coming back? I think he (and I) have
> >learned his lesson in that regard.
> >
> >-Greg
>
> I won a dozen balls from him on one of Eric's hiatus'
> :)

Top Rocks??

I lost a $1000 by reappearing.

-Greg

Date: 22 Sep 2006 21:36:44
From: IcUrdazedandconfused
Subject: Re: Let's stop it

On 22 Sep 2006 15:27:20 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:

>
>IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
>> On 18 Sep 2006 19:43:28 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Chris Bellomy wrote:
>> >> The Hammer <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> : I am going to take a long hiatus from RSG.
>> >>
>> >> See, Greg, he just did it again.
>> >
>> >Hmmm....did he say he's not coming back? I think he (and I) have
>> >learned his lesson in that regard.
>> >
>> >-Greg
>>
>> I won a dozen balls from him on one of Eric's hiatus'
>> :)
>
>Top Rocks??
>
>I lost a $1000 by reappearing.
>
>-Greg

I think I told Eric to just keep them; He was willing to pay up.

If I had the $1000 on you, I'd probably take that! :)