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Date: 21 Aug 2006 00:33:19
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Let's change the Ryder Cup


Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder Cup
is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport of
character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I have a
lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm sure this
has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but not posted or
discussed it.






 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 04:13:09
From: Jack Thompson
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



3putt wrote:
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
> > Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
> > Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
> > of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
> > have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
> > sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
> > not posted or discussed it.
> >

>
> Are you admitting you are a Mike Weir fan and want him on the American side?

He'd be a quality addition.



 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 04:11:53
From: Jack Thompson
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder Cup
> is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport of
> character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I have a
> lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm sure this
> has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but not posted or
> discussed it.

I really thought you were going to propose that we change it to Tiger
vs. The World.

Then again, we've been watching that over and over during the last
decade.



 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:38:09
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
> Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
> of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
> have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
> sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
> not posted or discussed it.
>

Are you admitting you are a Mike Weir fan and want him on the American side?




  
Date: 21 Aug 2006 15:22:31
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



"3putt" <golf24/7@golfing.com > wrote in message
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>
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
>> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
>> Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
>> of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
>> have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
>> sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
>> not posted or discussed it.
>>
>
> Are you admitting you are a Mike Weir fan and want him on the American
> side?

Couldn't hurt. Too bad Ochoa is a female. But mostly I'd like to see the US
do some things that put us on the same side as our neighbors.





   
Date: 21 Aug 2006 17:57:18
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup


AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> "3putt" <golf24/7@golfing.com> wrote in message
> news:l2gGg.16694$4c7.11391@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
>>"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
>>news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
>>
>>>Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
>>>Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
>>>of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
>>>have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
>>>sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
>>>not posted or discussed it.
>>>
>>
>>Are you admitting you are a Mike Weir fan and want him on the American
>>side?
>
>
> Couldn't hurt. Too bad Ochoa is a female. But mostly I'd like to see the US
> do some things that put us on the same side as our neighbors.
>
>
>

it's funny, the first thing I thought of when I saw the post about
including the "Americas" was Lorena Ochoa. She's got game, she's got
focus, she's got attitude, but, she's a she :(


 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 05:57:55
From: W
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



"AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote in message
news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
> Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
> of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
> have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
> sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
> not posted or discussed it.
>
>
How about the Americas vs Europe?




  
Date: 21 Aug 2006 15:21:13
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



"W" <forgotit@thebar.com > wrote in message
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>
> "AKA Gray Asphalt" <goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:WpdGg.985$nL2.22@fed1read02...
>> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder
>> Cup is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport
>> of character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I
>> have a lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm
>> sure this has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but
>> not posted or discussed it.
>>
>>
> How about the Americas vs Europe?

I was thinking that it ought to be continent against continent. Maybe South
America could be with N America until they get more players. But what about
Europe, Asis or Eurasia?






 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 01:01:57
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder C=
up
> is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport of
> character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe?

What do you mean? Canada should be included? Sounds fair, but trouble
is that Canada is a non-entity. If Canada would disappear from the map
this afternoon nobody would notice. You can=B4t fight against such
people. So - forget it. F



 
Date: 21 Aug 2006 19:06:07
From:
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup


Simple - the euros have been serious contenders, while the u s has had a
ho-hum attitude about it in the past.

but this year, it's going to be a horse of a different color. I look for
the u s to take the lead from the very beginning, and to never give it
up.

>mho
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 00:33:59
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
> Simple - the euros have been serious contenders, while the u s has had a
> ho-hum attitude about it in the past.

The Ryder Cup was in the old days a friendly meeting of golfers from
the US and Ireland & Great Britain but the last 15 years it has been a
fierce contest between Europe and the US. The Americans have given
everything they=B4ve got and you can=B4t accuse the players of anything
like a ho-hum attitude. There is a natural rivalry between Europe and
the US - rivalry, not animosity. Inclusion of Canada or Latin America
would destroy the natural base of contest. F



  
Date: 22 Aug 2006 01:33:36
From: AKA Gray Asphalt
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1156232039.140182.252970@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
> Simple - the euros have been serious contenders, while the u s has had a
> ho-hum attitude about it in the past.

The Ryder Cup was in the old days a friendly meeting of golfers from
the US and Ireland & Great Britain but the last 15 years it has been a
fierce contest between Europe and the US. The Americans have given
everything they´ve got and you can´t accuse the players of anything
like a ho-hum attitude. There is a natural rivalry between Europe and
the US - rivalry, not animosity. Inclusion of Canada or Latin America
would destroy the natural base of contest.

When all of Europe was included, many people probably said the same thing
... ruining a tradition, too. Maybe there should just be another 'Cup" maybe
held every 4 years to start off with that was a real continent vs continent
contest. Maybe it's Orwellian, maybe just a true implementation of what
NAFTA was supposed to be. North American Family of Trained Atheletes, or
Federation maybe.




 
Date: 23 Aug 2006 08:35:53
From:
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup



AKA Gray Asphalt wrote:
> Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder Cup
> is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport of
> character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I have a
> lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm sure this
> has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but not posted or
> discussed it.

One of the cooler things I noticed in scotland was one of the caddies
at the Old Course said 25 players from each club (not the kind you
think of here) compete each week when 25 go and play 25, I think they
played against Carnoustie. Less social but more spirited competition...



 
Date: 23 Aug 2006 09:23:18
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup


On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:33:19 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

A little late, but, "let's"?
___,
\o


 
Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:53:56
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Let's change the Ryder Cup


On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 00:33:19 -0700, "AKA Gray Asphalt"
<goodidea1950@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:

>Before you go against this idea, please let it sink in a bit. The Ryder Cup
>is about forming friendships through spirited competition in a sport of
>character, no? Well, how about if it is North America vs. Europe? I have a
>lot of pro arguements but I'd like to here your pros and cons. I'm sure this
>has been proposed before and that many have thought of it but not posted or
>discussed it.

I like this.

But it would be nice if Angel Cabrera, Ernie Els, Vijay Singh, Adam
Scott, Shingo Katayama, & Arjun Atwal had similar opportunities.

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