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Date: 24 Sep 2006 13:21:12
From:
Subject: Let the Public


select the next US ryder cup team

since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...

JD
Freddy
Davis
Tiger
etc....





 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 18:13:40
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Let the Public



> > Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.
>
> When you guys bothered to actually showed up. Ever heard of the Battle
> of Britain? No, I thought not, you were still trying to peddle
> lease-lend ships at the time, and saying it was Europe's war.

Better late than never... wouldn't you agree? :)



 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 17:29:16
From:
Subject: Re: Let the Public



pete z wrote:
> spinn@home.com wrote:
> > annika1980 wrote:
> > > R&B wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> > > > uptight.
> > >
> > > Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
> > > weekend.
> >
> > I was ridiculous they looked like a pair of idiots
>
>
> For once, you are correct. You are ridiculous. :-)

oops



 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 17:04:15
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Let the Public



spinn@home.com wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
> > R&B wrote:
> > >
> > > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> > > uptight.
> >
> > Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
> > weekend.
>
> I was ridiculous they looked like a pair of idiots


For once, you are correct. You are ridiculous. :-)



 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 17:01:11
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Let the Public



Fairway wrote:
> spring wrote:
> > no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and squar=
e=2E..I
> > congratulate the Euro team...
>
> Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
> of golf. Match play - it=B4s the way golf was meant to be played. And
> between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
> admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
> Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
> playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
> Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
> psyche?

Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.



  
Date: 24 Sep 2006 20:50:33
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159142471.433228.45630@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"pete z" <pz0326@aol.com > wrote:

> Fairway wrote:
> > spring wrote:
> > > no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and
> > > square...I
> > > congratulate the Euro team...
> >
> > Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
> > of golf. Match play - itīs the way golf was meant to be played. And
> > between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
> > admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
> > Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
> > playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
> > Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
> > psyche?
>
> Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.

When you guys bothered to actually showed up. Ever heard of the Battle
of Britain? No, I thought not, you were still trying to peddle
lease-lend ships at the time, and saying it was Europe's war.

William Clark


  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 07:55:57
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159142471.433228.45630@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
pz0326@aol.com says...
>
> Fairway wrote:
> > spring wrote:
> > > no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and square...I
> > > congratulate the Euro team...
> >
> > Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
> > of golf. Match play - it=3Fs the way golf was meant to be played. And
> > between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
> > admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
> > Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
> > playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
> > Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
> > psyche?
>
> Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.
>
Isn't it sort of pitiful when people who lose have to drag up some kind
of 60 year old world history to try to cover their shame.

Shame.



--
Howard


   
Date: 25 Sep 2006 11:51:32
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Let the Public


> > > spring wrote:
> > > > no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and
square...I
> > > > congratulate the Euro team...

Fairway wrote:
> > > Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
> > > of golf. Match play - it=3Fs the way golf was meant to be played. And
> > > between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
> > > admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
> > > Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
> > > playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
> > > Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
> > > psyche?

Pete Z wrote:
> > Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.

"Howard9" wrote
> Isn't it sort of pitiful when people who lose have to drag up some kind
> of 60 year old world history to try to cover their shame.
>
> Shame.


Howard9, before you are so critical of Pete Z, Perhaps you should read the
entirety of Fairway's post.




    
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:26:51
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <8pPRg.2199$Kw1.1151@trnddc05 >, surpher@verizon.net says...
> "Howard9" wrote
> > Isn't it sort of pitiful when people who lose have to drag up some kind
> > of 60 year old world history to try to cover their shame.
> >
> > Shame.
>
>
> Howard9, before you are so critical of Pete Z, Perhaps you should read the
> entirety of Fairway's post.

JJK,

I was responding to the post by Pete Z and only Pete Z. My response
stands.



--
Howard


     
Date: 26 Sep 2006 00:01:39
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Let the Public


> > "Howard9" wrote
> > > Isn't it sort of pitiful when people who lose have to drag up some
kind
> > > of 60 year old world history to try to cover their shame.
> > >
> > > Shame.

JJK wrote:
> > Howard9, before you are so critical of Pete Z, Perhaps you should read
the
> > entirety of Fairway's post.

"Howard9" wrote:
> I was responding to the post by Pete Z and only Pete Z. My response
> stands.


If you read Fairway's post, you'll probably better understand Pete Z's post.
You might discover that your reaction to Pete may not have been warranted.




 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 16:10:58
From:
Subject: Re: Let the Public



annika1980 wrote:
> R&B wrote:
> >
> > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> > uptight.
>
> Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
> weekend.

I was ridiculous they looked like a pair of idiots



 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 15:56:47
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Let the Public



R&B wrote:
>
> Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> uptight.

Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
weekend. It's like the Americans are playing with buttplugs up their
asses that are a few sizes too large.
Cue, Strulowitz.......



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 00:17:19
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Let the Public


annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
:
: R&B wrote:
: >
: > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
: > uptight.
:
: Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
: weekend. It's like the Americans are playing with buttplugs up their
: asses that are a few sizes too large.

If I were Captain of the Americans at this point, I'd probably
take bets from my players against them. "Phil, Chris, I got
$50k that says you can't get any points from Sergio and Jose
Maria." Then I'd follow my guys around the course, heckling
them the whole way. "Come and take my money if you want it,
you choker!" Screw positive thinking, give them constant shit
and they'll find their inner sharks.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/


  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 00:08:35
From: Brian Foster
Subject: Re: Let the Public



"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159138607.039039.230230@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
It's like the Americans are playing with buttplugs up their
> asses that are a few sizes too large.



I'm not to sure that many of us RSGers would know what that feeling is like.
But coming from you, the voice of experience, I'm guessing it would not
allow for great golf.




  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:31:22
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159138607.039039.230230@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
annika1980@aol.com says...
>
> R&B wrote:
> >
> > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> > uptight.
>
> Ya think? I don't think I ever saw Tiger or Furyk smile the whole
> weekend. It's like the Americans are playing with buttplugs up their
> asses that are a few sizes too large.
> Cue, Strulowitz.......
>
So true. People here find it completely bizarre. We just don;t
understand this kind of mentality and thinking.
Is this what it does to American players to be number 1 and 2 in the
world ? Is the sacrifice of all semblance of human emotion the first
requirement to reach that dizzying height ? If so then golf in the US
is in trouble.

--
Howard


   
Date: 26 Sep 2006 05:36:43
From: rich
Subject: Re: Let the Public



"Howard9" <fictional@email.com > wrote in message
news:MPG.1f81ea843cfa4578989eea@news.iol.ie...

> So true. People here find it completely bizarre. We just don;t
> understand this kind of mentality and thinking.
> Is this what it does to American players to be number 1 and 2 in the
> world ? Is the sacrifice of all semblance of human emotion the first
> requirement to reach that dizzying height ? If so then golf in the US
> is in trouble.

Earlier in his career Tiger was heavily criticized for showing emotion. Now
he is criticized for not showing emotion. The guy just can't win with the
critics. But he can win on the golf course and that is what counts.

The Europeans are great at 4-ball match play, foursomes match play, and even
singles match play. But they cannot win in 72 hole stroke play competition
when faced with the toughest fields as they are in the majors and WGC
events. And the old argument about them all being in America is discredited
by the fact that they have won precisely one time out of the twelve of those
events played in Europe since 1999. When the Euros start winning majors and
WGC events, let us know.

Rich




    
Date: 26 Sep 2006 07:56:53
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <L%2Sg.4328$fl2.3433@trnddc02 >, dummy@nothere.com says...
>
> "Howard9" <fictional@email.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f81ea843cfa4578989eea@news.iol.ie...
>
> > So true. People here find it completely bizarre. We just don;t
> > understand this kind of mentality and thinking.
> > Is this what it does to American players to be number 1 and 2 in the
> > world ? Is the sacrifice of all semblance of human emotion the first
> > requirement to reach that dizzying height ? If so then golf in the US
> > is in trouble.
>
> Earlier in his career Tiger was heavily criticized for showing emotion. Now
> he is criticized for not showing emotion. The guy just can't win with the
> critics. But he can win on the golf course and that is what counts.
>
> The Europeans are great at 4-ball match play, foursomes match play, and even
> singles match play. But they cannot win in 72 hole stroke play competition
> when faced with the toughest fields as they are in the majors and WGC
> events. And the old argument about them all being in America is discredited
> by the fact that they have won precisely one time out of the twelve of those
> events played in Europe since 1999. When the Euros start winning majors and
> WGC events, let us know.
>
Indeed the US seem only to be able to win in one form of Golf. How sad
they are.
>
>

--
Howard


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 18:50:55
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Let the Public


<spinn@home.com > wrote in message
news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> select the next US ryder cup team
>
> since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
> nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>
> JD
> Freddy
> Davis
> Tiger
> etc....


John Daly on the Ryder Cup team. I'm all for it.

Maybe he'd take the Euros out and get 'em all drunk the night before the
matches.

Although I'm not entirely sure they don't do that already.

Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
uptight.

Considering their record in recent years in these matches, they have good
reason to be.

Randy




  
Date: 24 Sep 2006 19:43:31
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Let the Public


"R&B" wrote:
> <spinn@home.com> wrote in message
> news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>select the next US ryder cup team
>>
>>since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
>>nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>>
>>JD
>>Freddy
>>Davis
>>Tiger
>>etc....
>
>
>
> John Daly on the Ryder Cup team. I'm all for it.
>
> Maybe he'd take the Euros out and get 'em all drunk the night before the
> matches.
>
> Although I'm not entirely sure they don't do that already.
>
> Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> uptight.
>
> Considering their record in recent years in these matches, they have good
> reason to be.
>
> Randy

I was at the Ryder Cup at Oakland Hills two years ago, and honestly
don't see anything different, this year, between the two sides, than I
saw then.

On the practice tee, first day, Monty, Clarke, Jiminez and Harrington
were hitting balls interspersed with jokes, laughing and very loose. On
the other side of the tee, as far apart as they could possibly be, were
Woods and Mickleson. I knew right then that the Euros had that first
match won.

I think the US gets way too uptight about these matches, motivational
videos, motivational speakers, motivational prayer sessions and fight
songs etc - jeez - gimme a break here!! Meanwhile the Euro team is
down the pub "motivating" themselves with good humour and beer.

David



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 04:07:56
From: spring
Subject: Re: Let the Public



""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:jOGdnc41Qv5dlorYnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> <spinn@home.com> wrote in message
> news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> select the next US ryder cup team
>>
>> since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
>> nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>>
>> JD
>> Freddy
>> Davis
>> Tiger
>> etc....
>
>
> John Daly on the Ryder Cup team. I'm all for it.
>
> Maybe he'd take the Euros out and get 'em all drunk the night before the
> matches.
>
> Although I'm not entirely sure they don't do that already.
>
> Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> uptight.
>
> Considering their record in recent years in these matches, they have good
> reason to be.
>
> Randy

I think you are probably right. Daly would be a good fit. Daly once said he
would never be on a Ryder Cup team unless he earned the points, cause no one
would dare to pick him as he does not fit in.

But the Americans need to get loose...too uptight .

Bill




   
Date: 25 Sep 2006 15:05:39
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Let the Public


"spring" <s@spring.com > wrote in message
news:i7MRg.15720$GY5.12691@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:jOGdnc41Qv5dlorYnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> <spinn@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> select the next US ryder cup team
>>>
>>> since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
>>> nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>>>
>>> JD
>>> Freddy
>>> Davis
>>> Tiger
>>> etc....
>>
>>
>> John Daly on the Ryder Cup team. I'm all for it.
>>
>> Maybe he'd take the Euros out and get 'em all drunk the night before the
>> matches.
>>
>> Although I'm not entirely sure they don't do that already.
>>
>> Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is
>> pretty uptight.
>>
>> Considering their record in recent years in these matches, they have good
>> reason to be.
>>
>> Randy
>
> I think you are probably right. Daly would be a good fit. Daly once said
> he would never be on a Ryder Cup team unless he earned the points, cause
> no one would dare to pick him as he does not fit in.
>
> But the Americans need to get loose...too uptight .
>
> Bill


I heard Jim Furyk on TGC last night say "we were loose."

Somehow, I'm not entirely convinced that Jim Furyk would be an authority on
"loose."

But I could be wrong.

Randy




    
Date: 25 Sep 2006 20:57:13
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <Y4-dnf2OlPDvtYXYnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com >,
noneofyourbusiness@all.com says...
>
> I heard Jim Furyk on TGC last night say "we were loose."
>
> Somehow, I'm not entirely convinced that Jim Furyk would be an authority on
> "loose."
>
> But I could be wrong.
>

Indeed. I like Furyk - but loose he ain't.


--
Howard


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 15:34:17
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let the Public



spring wrote:
> no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and square.=
.=2EI
> congratulate the Euro team...

Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
of golf. Match play - it=B4s the way golf was meant to be played. And
between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
psyche? F



 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 15:12:49
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Let the Public



spinn@home.com wrote:
> select the next US ryder cup team
>
> since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
> nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>
> JD
> Freddy
> Davis
> Tiger
> etc...

Sounds good to me. Really though, the players should share in the
proceeds,
say, winners get 1 million each, losers nothing. Then we'll see how
many putts are conceded, and how friendly the matches are.



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:28:22
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159135969.146185.315610@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
pz0326@aol.com says...
> Sounds good to me. Really though, the players should share in the
> proceeds,
> say, winners get 1 million each, losers nothing. Then we'll see how
> many putts are conceded, and how friendly the matches are.
>

Ahh... Adopt the US way. No thanks.


--
Howard


   
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:03:14
From: William A. T. Clark
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <MPG.1f81e9cde406b5a2989ee9@news.iol.ie >,
Howard9 <fictional@email.com > wrote:

> In article <1159135969.146185.315610@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> pz0326@aol.com says...
> > Sounds good to me. Really though, the players should share in the
> > proceeds,
> > say, winners get 1 million each, losers nothing. Then we'll see how
> > many putts are conceded, and how friendly the matches are.
> >
>
> Ahh... Adopt the US way. No thanks.

Quite right - the last thing we ever want is for golf to be treated like
a game.

Perhaps each team could also have a squad of lawyers ready to sue at the
drop of a hat.

William Clark


 
Date: 24 Sep 2006 16:24:38
From: spring
Subject: Re: Let the Public


no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and square...I
congratulate the Euro team...for me the best part of the day was Cink taking
down the rat man Garcia...I cannot stand him and his whiny attitude...glad
you folks have him :-)

Have an ale on me
Thank you
Bill

<spinn@home.com > wrote in message
news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> select the next US ryder cup team
>
> since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
> nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
>
> JD
> Freddy
> Davis
> Tiger
> etc....
>




  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 11:19:36
From: Ezran
Subject: Re: Let the Public


On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:24:38 -0400, "spring" <s@spring.com > wrote:

>no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and square...I
>congratulate the Euro team...for me the best part of the day was Cink taking
>down the rat man Garcia...I cannot stand him and his whiny attitude...glad
>you folks have him :-)
>

He came to the 1st tee box pumping his umbrella up and down, trying to
work the crowd. All I can say is, well done Cink!!! Sergio could use
the lesson.

Oh, also well done Europe. The Americans do look a miserable bunch all
3 days. I remember Cink and Henry enjoying it a bit (when they were
playing together) but that was about it.





  
Date: 24 Sep 2006 23:21:39
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <_PBRg.22573$eW5.1835@bignews5.bellsouth.net >, s@spring.com
says...
> no excuses from me at all..it was a proper beating , won fair and square...I
> congratulate the Euro team...for me the best part of the day was Cink taking
> down the rat man Garcia...I cannot stand him and his whiny attitude...glad
> you folks have him :-)
>
I know how you feel.....

up to Friday "Although still only 26, Garcia is already playing in his
fourth Ryder Cup and his record is an astonishing 10 wins and two halves
against just three losses."

Hurts don't it LOL



--
Howard


 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 09:06:44
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Let the Public


Is that the same "public" who elected a chimpanzee into the white house
for two terms?



 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 05:35:43
From: Simon
Subject: Re: Let the Public



David Sneddon wrote:
> "R&B" wrote:
> > <spinn@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>select the next US ryder cup team
> >>
> >>since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means
> >>nothing .... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
> >>
> >>JD
> >>Freddy
> >>Davis
> >>Tiger
> >>etc....
> >
> >
> >
> > John Daly on the Ryder Cup team. I'm all for it.
> >
> > Maybe he'd take the Euros out and get 'em all drunk the night before the
> > matches.
> >
> > Although I'm not entirely sure they don't do that already.
> >
> > Maybe that's the difference. Those guys are loose. The US team is pretty
> > uptight.
> >
> > Considering their record in recent years in these matches, they have good
> > reason to be.
> >
> > Randy
>
> I was at the Ryder Cup at Oakland Hills two years ago, and honestly
> don't see anything different, this year, between the two sides, than I
> saw then.
>
> On the practice tee, first day, Monty, Clarke, Jiminez and Harrington
> were hitting balls interspersed with jokes, laughing and very loose. On
> the other side of the tee, as far apart as they could possibly be, were
> Woods and Mickleson. I knew right then that the Euros had that first
> match won.
>
> I think the US gets way too uptight about these matches, motivational
> videos, motivational speakers, motivational prayer sessions and fight
> songs etc - jeez - gimme a break here!! Meanwhile the Euro team is
> down the pub "motivating" themselves with good humour and beer.
>
> David

The Europeans obviously love playing in the Ryder Cup and it means
something to them. For whatever reason, it doesn't seem to mean so much
to the US team and they don't seem to enjoy it. I have no idea how you
can change that or even if the PGA, US sports fans or the US public in
general care enough about losing the Ryder Cup that they'll do
something about it.

IMHO having your top players like Mickelson and Woods being so downbeat
about the whole thing does nothing to inspire the 'lesser' players. All
the bigger European players are so up for the match and make the lesser
players feel part of the team that they all play above themselves.

Also, even though the US have the best 2 or 3 players, perhaps now
there is greater strength in depth with the Europeans. Our two rookies,
Stenson & Karlsson both have two wins this year and I wasn't worried
about them taking on any of the US team. Are Taylor and Wetterich
really 2 of the best 10 US players? I thought that Johnson and Henry
looked like they had guts, but Taylor and Wetterich looked out of their
depth.

Lehman's tactics of playing his best 4 players Furyk/Woods and
Mickelson/DiMarco in two pairs gave the impression that they were above
and separate from the rest of the team.



 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 12:10:44
From: Bedders
Subject: Re: Let the Public


x-no-archive: yes

I hear Simnon Cowell (Pop Idol etc) is planning a golf themed program for
nrxt time, where members of the public are given the 'chance' to qualify
onto the team..

but we all know the ones with the biggest boobs (yes, its going coed!), or
whoever gives the best kickback will win..




 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 00:23:21
From: johnty
Subject: Re: Let the Public



pete z wrote:

>
> Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.

At last! I was wondering when some dork would bring up the biennial
saving-your-asses/you'd-be-speaking-German stuff...



...and some dork just has.



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 11:55:03
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Let the Public


Fairway wrote:
>>> Thanks mate, you are very kind. This is by far the most exciting event
>>> of golf. Match play - itīs the way golf was meant to be played. And
>>> between two fierce rivals. Eorpe had a stunning victory and I must
>>> admit that I simply cannot understand how it could happen. The
>>> Americans are so damned good at strokeplay but it seems that when
>>> playing man agains man, bayonet wise, something dies in their hearts.
>>> Incomprehensible. Or does it reflect a hidden weakness in the American
>>> psyche? F

pete z wrote:
> > Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.

"johnty" wrote:
> At last! I was wondering when some dork would bring up the biennial
> saving-your-asses/you'd-be-speaking-German stuff...
<snip >


Johnty, before you too are so critical of Pete Z, perhaps you should read
the
entirety of Fairway's post.





 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 19:53:48
From:
Subject: Re: Let the Public


I hope the posting of this site doesn't offend the ratchet-jaw(RB),
better known as motormouth.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/rydercup06/news/story?id=3D2601988

>m h o
> v =83e


=A0



 
Date: 25 Sep 2006 14:04:05
From: pete z
Subject: Re: Let the Public



johnty wrote:
> pete z wrote:
>
> >
> > Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.
>
> At last! I was wondering when some dork would bring up the biennial
> saving-your-asses/you'd-be-speaking-German stuff...
>
>
>
> ...and some dork just has.


Not until the dork read a comparison of the game of golf to combat, and
the weakness of Americans, who have died in 5 or more wars in the last
century, helping other countries. It's golf - we'd send a whole
different team over if we wanted to kick ass.



  
Date: 25 Sep 2006 23:05:19
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159218245.499594.310290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
pz0326@aol.com says...
>
> johnty wrote:
> > pete z wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yeh, the same weakness that saved your butts in two world wars.
> >
> > At last! I was wondering when some dork would bring up the biennial
> > saving-your-asses/you'd-be-speaking-German stuff...
> >
> >
> >
> > ...and some dork just has.
>
>
> Not until the dork read a comparison of the game of golf to combat, and
> the weakness of Americans, who have died in 5 or more wars in the last
> century, helping other countries. It's golf - we'd send a whole
> different team over if we wanted to kick ass.
>
and there's another one johnty............ more to follow I am sure...



--
Howard


 
Date: 26 Sep 2006 02:00:19
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Let the Public



Howard9 wrote:
>> Indeed the US seem only to be able to win in one form of Golf. How sad
> they are.
The US has more Ryder Cup victories than Europe and they will surely
bounce back. But I agree with you, it=B4s strange that they should excel
in stroke play - and equally strange how poor the Europeans are at
stroke play. In my humble opinion stroke play is a rather boring form
of golf. Grinding out a decent result is all there is. Match play
demands more guts, more adventure and more risk - to me it=B4s the real
thing. While golf certainly is not war the Ryder Cup is a tremendous
battle and people all over the world find it irrestistible. F



  
Date: 26 Sep 2006 08:09:07
From: Pixel Dent
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <1159261219.074269.225440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Howard9 wrote:
> >> Indeed the US seem only to be able to win in one form of Golf. How sad
> > they are.
> The US has more Ryder Cup victories than Europe and they will surely
> bounce back.

Actually they have a losing record since Europe was added. Most of their
victories came when they were playing against Great Britain and had a
huge population imbalance in their favor. Now Europe has a large
imbalance in their favor so I'd expect them to continue to win about
3/4ths of the events over the long term.

Personally I think that's a good thing as it makes the victories that
much sweeter when they do come.


   
Date: 26 Sep 2006 14:16:23
From: Howard9
Subject: Re: Let the Public


In article <DL8Sg.617$uJ2.339@dukeread03 >, pixel_dent@yahoo.com says...
> Now Europe has a large
> imbalance in their favor so I'd expect them to continue to win about
> 3/4ths of the events over the long term.
>

What are you talking about ? what imbalance ?


--
Howard


   
Date: 27 Sep 2006 00:42:35
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Let the Public


On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:09:07 -0400, Pixel Dent <pixel_dent@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Actually they have a losing record since Europe was added. Most of their
>victories came when they were playing against Great Britain and had a
>huge population imbalance in their favor. Now Europe has a large
>imbalance in their favor so I'd expect them to continue to win about
>3/4ths of the events over the long term.

Europe and the U.S. have about the same number of people, but not
nearly the same number of golfers.


  
Date: 26 Sep 2006 11:55:26
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Let the Public


On 26 Sep 2006 02:00:19 -0700, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote:

>>> Indeed the US seem only to be able to win in one form of Golf. How sad
>> they are.
>The US has more Ryder Cup victories than Europe and they will surely
>bounce back.

Most of which were one big country against one smaller country. The
rules were changed to make a more balanced match.

>But I agree with you, itīs strange that they should excel
>in stroke play - and equally strange how poor the Europeans are at
>stroke play.

You play better in the format you grew up playing. Nothing strange
about that.


 
Date: 26 Sep 2006 20:55:38
From: Del Ray
Subject: Re: Let the Public


From: spinn@home.com
select the next US ryder cup team
since all you american are making up excuses that thie cup means nothing
... lets just have the most popular golfers play...
JD
Freddy
Davis
Tiger
etc....

Well, of course it means nothing, Phil Mickelson was on the team, how
much more proof do you need?



 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 00:01:53
From: johnty
Subject: Re: Let the Public



David Sneddon wrote:

>
> I think the US gets way too uptight about these matches, motivational
> videos, motivational speakers, motivational prayer sessions and fight
> songs etc - jeez - gimme a break here!! Meanwhile the Euro team is
> down the pub "motivating" themselves with good humour and beer.
>

Spot on -- we've been there, you and I!



  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 07:28:28
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Let the Public


johnty wrote:
> David Sneddon wrote:
>
>
>>I think the US gets way too uptight about these matches, motivational
>>videos, motivational speakers, motivational prayer sessions and fight
>>songs etc - jeez - gimme a break here!! Meanwhile the Euro team is
>>down the pub "motivating" themselves with good humour and beer.
>>
>
>
> Spot on -- we've been there, you and I!
>

Certainly have, John. With the results being much closer than last
weekend ;-)

David


 
Date: 28 Sep 2006 21:22:34
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Let the Public



<spinn@home.com > wrote in message
news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> select the next US ryder cup team


I say Americas next Ryder Cupers be Nationwide Tour players; let someone
play who wants it




  
Date: 28 Sep 2006 21:41:08
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let the Public


Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
> <spinn@home.com> wrote in message
> news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> select the next US ryder cup team
>
>
> I say Americas next Ryder Cupers be Nationwide Tour players; let someone
> play who wants it
>
>

I think you and I should play...but I'll leave the weather predictions
to you all :)

how you likin' my shirt?,
Dave


   
Date: 01 Oct 2006 17:22:21
From: Matt 'Ocho' Aamold
Subject: Re: Let the Public



> how you likin' my shirt?,
> Dave

Might have to pass it off to you next year :-)




    
Date: 01 Oct 2006 21:17:57
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Let the Public


Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote:
>> how you likin' my shirt?,
>> Dave
>
> Might have to pass it off to you next year :-)
>
>

I'll be there...bring shirt :-P


  
Date: 29 Sep 2006 12:02:21
From: Bedders
Subject: Re: Let the Public


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Golf Idol, anyone?! lol

and how about a mixed team- men & women.. after all, it is a game of skill,
right..?



Matt 'Ocho' Aamold wrote in message
<38qdncmi_K8WAoHYnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@comcast.com >...
>
><spinn@home.com> wrote in message
>news:1159129272.622372.234650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> select the next US ryder cup team
>
>
>I say Americas next Ryder Cupers be Nationwide Tour players; let someone
>play who wants it
>
>