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Date: 01 Sep 2006 07:48:32
From:
Subject: Left eye - full swing setup


Sorry for posting on a topic that may have been addressed previously
but I have been unable to find any results throught google.

Does anyone have an opinion/information on the Jack Nicklaus head tilt
at setup? In other words, how do you feel about looking at the ball
with your left eye during the set up?

Recently I've been trying to take the club back on an inside plane in
order to correct a slight OTT move and I was wondering if the left eye
technique would aid this in any way.

Thanks.





 
Date: 01 Sep 2006 10:09:44
From: Dave Clary
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



Larry Bud wrote:
>
> A buddy of mine just went to a Mac O'Grady school for 3 days, with Mac
> there himself. He said that he's never met a guy that knew more about
> the golf swing in conjunction with the way the human body works.


Whadya expect? He's a TGM guy! :-)

Dave
Googlin'



 
Date: 01 Sep 2006 09:40:25
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



tobiasc@pcsb.org wrote:
> Sorry for posting on a topic that may have been addressed previously
> but I have been unable to find any results throught google.
>
> Does anyone have an opinion/information on the Jack Nicklaus head tilt
> at setup? In other words, how do you feel about looking at the ball
> with your left eye during the set up?

A buddy of mine just went to a Mac O'Grady school for 3 days, with Mac
there himself. He said that he's never met a guy that knew more about
the golf swing in conjunction with the way the human body works.

They talked about this subject, and Mac O believes that the eyes should
be equidistant from the ball so your binocular vision works it's best.
He also believes that the head should be angled so that your eyeballs
are centered in their sockets when addressing the ball.

I don't have any more details since I didn't go to the class.



  
Date: 02 Sep 2006 18:18:16
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


equidistant and angled, in conjunction, is a little ambiguous.

I don't get the rationale, just focus the eyes on the ball, and strike
it squarely.

>m h o
>=A0v =83e

>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0u s o - until everyone comes home



 
Date: 01 Sep 2006 11:52:30
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


Jack Nicklaus is left eye dominant. He is also color-blind.

He has explained the head tilt helps him focus with his dominant eye and
also helps him make a full turn.

"Golf my Way - 1983"

Da Ringer


<tobiasc@pcsb.org > wrote in message
news:1157122112.549184.11980@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry for posting on a topic that may have been addressed previously
> but I have been unable to find any results throught google.
>
> Does anyone have an opinion/information on the Jack Nicklaus head tilt
> at setup? In other words, how do you feel about looking at the ball
> with your left eye during the set up?
>
> Recently I've been trying to take the club back on an inside plane in
> order to correct a slight OTT move and I was wondering if the left eye
> technique would aid this in any way.
>
> Thanks.
>




 
Date: 01 Sep 2006 12:13:48
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
turning your head without loss of accuracy, simply because it allows
your shoulders to turn further without knocking your head off axis.

It does require a little practice, though. Like everything else.

-PA


Da Ringer wrote:
> Jack Nicklaus is left eye dominant. He is also color-blind.
>
> He has explained the head tilt helps him focus with his dominant eye and
> also helps him make a full turn.
>
> "Golf my Way - 1983"
>
> Da Ringer
>
>
> <tobiasc@pcsb.org> wrote in message
> news:1157122112.549184.11980@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> > Sorry for posting on a topic that may have been addressed previously
> > but I have been unable to find any results throught google.
> >
> > Does anyone have an opinion/information on the Jack Nicklaus head tilt
> > at setup? In other words, how do you feel about looking at the ball
> > with your left eye during the set up?
> >
> > Recently I've been trying to take the club back on an inside plane in
> > order to correct a slight OTT move and I was wondering if the left eye
> > technique would aid this in any way.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >



  
Date: 01 Sep 2006 22:00:32
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On 1 Sep 2006 12:13:48 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:

>Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
>turning your head without loss of accuracy,

Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?



David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


   
Date: 01 Sep 2006 18:56:09
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


Probably the same guy that said you could putt.


"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:ccbhf29lcdqmocnqc3ocv53g0esgq75eg4@4ax.com...
> On 1 Sep 2006 12:13:48 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
>>turning your head without loss of accuracy,
>
> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982




    
Date: 02 Sep 2006 16:03:31
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:56:09 -0400, "Da Ringer" <DaRinger@home.net >
wrote:

>>>Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
>>>turning your head without loss of accuracy,

>> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?

>Probably the same guy that said you could putt.

That was the same guy who said you had game.



David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


     
Date: 02 Sep 2006 12:28:11
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


I beat you by 12 shots


"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:h7ajf2lfv4hotoruoig5s7oq7nu465ekf3@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:56:09 -0400, "Da Ringer" <DaRinger@home.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
>>>>turning your head without loss of accuracy,
>
>>> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
>
>>Probably the same guy that said you could putt.
>
> That was the same guy who said you had game.
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982




      
Date: 02 Sep 2006 21:30:58
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:28:11 -0400, "Da Ringer" <DaRinger@home.net >
wrote:

>>>Probably the same guy that said you could putt.

>> That was the same guy who said you had game.

>I beat you by 12 shots

Yea right, whatever.



David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


       
Date: 02 Sep 2006 19:40:16
From: Da Ringer
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


Truth hurts, don't it?


"David Laville" <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:ugtjf2ddt60vuces6b4nn2q6t8r52ipudd@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 12:28:11 -0400, "Da Ringer" <DaRinger@home.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Probably the same guy that said you could putt.
>
>>> That was the same guy who said you had game.
>
>>I beat you by 12 shots
>
> Yea right, whatever.
>
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
> The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
> TB-8982




        
Date: 03 Sep 2006 02:05:12
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 19:40:16 -0400, "Da Ringer" <DaRinger@home.net >
wrote:

>>>I beat you by 12 shots
>>
>> Yea right, whatever.

>Truth hurts, don't it?

Yaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.








David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


   
Date: 02 Sep 2006 07:19:49
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



On 1-Sep-2006, David Laville <dlaville@worldnet.att.net > wrote:

> On 1 Sep 2006 12:13:48 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
> >turning your head without loss of accuracy,
>
> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?

Pulled it out of his posterior no doubt!

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.


 
Date: 01 Sep 2006 11:06:52
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



Da Ringer wrote:
> Jack Nicklaus is left eye dominant. He is also color-blind.
>
> He has explained the head tilt helps him focus with his dominant eye and
> also helps him make a full turn.
>
> "Golf my Way - 1983"
>
> Da Ringer

Interesting that you mention Jack Nicklaus is color blind, I had no
idea. By sheer coincidence I am also color blind. I'm not sure about
the whole left eye dominant phenomena however. Are you referring to
clearer vision in the left eye?



  
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Date: 02 Sep 2006 18:03:17
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


keep both eyes on the ball until after impact,

drop both hands *straight* down at the *very* beginning of the
downswing,

now, let's see you come over the top,

forget jackie boy, he's history.

btw, you are to strike the ball squarely on the sweet spot.

get it all together, and remember where you put it.:--)

>m h o
>=A0v =83e

>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0u s o - until everyone comes home



  
Date: 02 Sep 2006 23:17:32
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


At our age, it takes everyone in the group to remember where "we" put it.


<fiveiron@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:19668-44FA0DB5-433@storefull-3314.bay.webtv.net...
keep both eyes on the ball until after impact,

drop both hands *straight* down at the *very* beginning of the
downswing,

now, let's see you come over the top,

forget jackie boy, he's history.

btw, you are to strike the ball squarely on the sweet spot.

get it all together, and remember where you put it.:--)

>m h o
> v fe

> u s o - until everyone comes home




 
Date: 02 Sep 2006 15:06:52
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



David Laville wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2006 12:13:48 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
> >turning your head without loss of accuracy,
>
> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?

On the golf course and driving range.

-PA



  
Date: 03 Sep 2006 02:05:12
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On 2 Sep 2006 15:06:52 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:


>> >Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
>> >turning your head without loss of accuracy,
>>
>> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
>
>On the golf course and driving range.

Wow, I guess that's all the proof we need.




David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


 
Date: 03 Sep 2006 07:24:59
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
> David Laville wrote:
> > blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> >Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
> > >> >turning your head without loss of accuracy,
> > >>
> > >> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
> > >
> > >On the golf course and driving range.
> >
> > Wow, I guess that's all the proof we need.
>
> Drive average 280 without head turn, 310 with.

But that's with a 5I... right? :)



 
Date: 03 Sep 2006 05:22:15
From:
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup



David Laville wrote:
> blakestah@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >Its all about the full turn. You gain an extra 10-15% in distance by
> >> >turning your head without loss of accuracy,
> >>
> >> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
> >
> >On the golf course and driving range.
>
> Wow, I guess that's all the proof we need.

Drive average 280 without head turn, 310 with.

YMMV. I can't get good tension between the
shoulders and hips without a little more turn.

-PA



  
Date: 03 Sep 2006 21:32:31
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


On 3 Sep 2006 05:22:15 -0700, blakestah@gmail.com wrote:


>> >> Where did you come up with this 10-15% figure?
>> >
>> >On the golf course and driving range.
>>
>> Wow, I guess that's all the proof we need.
>
>Drive average 280 without head turn, 310 with.

Was wind conditions the same, what about fairways? I want to know
published facts from test not what you perceive to be further
distances since I doubt you take measuring equipment with you to the
course.



David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982


 
Date: 04 Sep 2006 04:56:31
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Left eye - full swing setup


According to Nicklaus himself, who explains this in his book Golf My Way,
the head tilt was a result of him being left-eye dominant, which is about as
common as left-handedness. It was a way for him to get his dominant eye
behind the ball.

Randy

<tobiasc@pcsb.org > wrote in message
news:1157122112.549184.11980@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry for posting on a topic that may have been addressed previously
> but I have been unable to find any results throught google.
>
> Does anyone have an opinion/information on the Jack Nicklaus head tilt
> at setup? In other words, how do you feel about looking at the ball
> with your left eye during the set up?
>
> Recently I've been trying to take the club back on an inside plane in
> order to correct a slight OTT move and I was wondering if the left eye
> technique would aid this in any way.
>
> Thanks.
>