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Date: 17 Aug 2006 16:24:03
From: Jay S.
Subject: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What good
public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
Jay S.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 03:32:45
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On 17-Aug-2006, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
> I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What
> good
> public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
Grapevine Muni is an excellent public course north of the Airport (DFW).
http://tinyurl.com/qzzqb
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A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 22:41:34
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:32:45 GMT, "bill-o" <assimilate@borg.org >
wrote:
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>On 17-Aug-2006, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What
>> good
>> public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
>
>Grapevine Muni is an excellent public course north of the Airport (DFW).
>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qzzqb
You don't want to play Grapevine this summer. If you'll remember,
it's down in a valley, protected from most breezes.
One of our group played there last week and had to quit, and the temp
was 99 degrees. He played yesterday with us in 105 degree heat at our
course with no problem.
___,
\o
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 04:29:48
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
: You don't want to play Grapevine this summer. If you'll remember,
: it's down in a valley, protected from most breezes.
I think the OP is supposed to be here in ober?
: One of our group played there last week and had to quit, and the temp
: was 99 degrees. He played yesterday with us in 105 degree heat at our
: course with no problem.
THAT EXPLAINS IT.
I played there last year, walking with my SpeedCart when the temp
was pretty warm (low 90s, I think) but not anything like we've had
this summer. I was a bit out of shape, but I had been walking courses
much of the year, so I wasn't terribly unfit... but I thought I was
going to stroke out coming up the hill from the 18th green. And it
seems like every time I play out there in warm weather, it wears me
out. It's that stagnant air down there that does it, of course!
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Chris Bellomy
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 10:30:57
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On 17-Aug-2006, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
> You don't want to play Grapevine this summer. If you'll remember,
> it's down in a valley, protected from most breezes.
>
> One of our group played there last week and had to quit, and the temp
> was 99 degrees. He played yesterday with us in 105 degree heat at our
> course with no problem.
Ouch! That was not a problem in ! ;-)
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A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 23:31:44
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Jay S. <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
: I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What good
: public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
The Creeks Course is fairly recently remodeled and very nice
by muni standards, comparable to upscale public courses. You
won't be disappointed. I haven't played the Lakes Course in
years so I can't comment on that.
Also good, probably a notch below Indian Creek but still nice,
is Sherrill Park in Richardson. I think that's about the same
distance from the Galleria area as Indian Creek, and it also
offers 36 holes (the #1 course is recommended over the #2).
If you have a few bucks to spend, head north on the Tollway
and visit Tex at the Tribute. That course is special, very
highly recommended.
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 16:42:17
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:24:03 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
>I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What good
>public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
>
>Jay S.
>
I understand that it has been redone and is in good shape. Where in
Dallas are you going to be? It's a large area, and there are several
good public courses to pick from.
___,
\o
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 23:37:15
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net > wrote:
: On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:24:03 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
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: >I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What good
: >public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
: >
: >Jay S.
: >
: I understand that it has been redone and is in good shape. Where in
: Dallas are you going to be?
"I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in ." :-p
Bobby, you mentioned that several nice public courses were
nearby, but the Galleria is kinda Ground Zero for *not* being
especially close to any good public golf, isn't it? Lots of
swank clubs near there, though.
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Date: 17 Aug 2006 19:00:01
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:37:15 GMT, Chris Bellomy
<puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
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>Bobby, you mentioned that several nice public courses were
>nearby, but the Galleria is kinda Ground Zero for *not* being
>especially close to any good public golf, isn't it? Lots of
>swank clubs near there, though.
Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
___,
\o
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29
From: Jay S.
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
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> Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
> Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
> freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
> several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
> ___,
> \o
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 11:33:59
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
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>"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
>news:830ae2hresvcptnub7n8ogjgpo8o741sje@4ax.com...
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>> Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
>> Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
>> freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
>> several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
>> bk
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>Thanks for the tip. I was trying to look for the closest decent public
>course to the Galeria so I can play early and still not mess with the wife's
>plans for the day. Is Sherril closer than Indian Creek from Belt Line and
>the Dallas N. Tollway?
>
>Jay S.
>
Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
___,
\o
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:42:15
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Jay S. <jays@noemail.com > wrote:
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: "Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
: news:830ae2hresvcptnub7n8ogjgpo8o741sje@4ax.com...
: >
: > Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
: > Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
: > freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
: > several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
:
: Thanks for the tip. I was trying to look for the closest decent public
: course to the Galeria so I can play early and still not mess with the wife's
: plans for the day. Is Sherril closer than Indian Creek from Belt Line and
: the Dallas N. Tollway?
Almost exactly the same.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:28:43
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:830ae2hresvcptnub7n8ogjgpo8o741sje@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
> >> Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
> >> freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
> >> several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
>
> >> bk
> >
> >Thanks for the tip. I was trying to look for the closest decent public
> >course to the Galeria so I can play early and still not mess with the wife's
> >plans for the day. Is Sherril closer than Indian Creek from Belt Line and
> >the Dallas N. Tollway?
> >
> >Jay S.
> >
> Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
> Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
Which Tollway intersects Frankford?
>From the Galleria, North on the N. Texas Tollway, West on George Bush
Tollway, exit Frankford...but then, you drive a long way on
Frankford...
Easiest is West on 635, North on 35, exit Frankford, bear right (East)
and the course is on the left about 1 mile from 35.
Tex
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:46:45
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
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: Bobby Knight wrote:
: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
: >
: > >
: > >"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net> wrote in message
: > >news:830ae2hresvcptnub7n8ogjgpo8o741sje@4ax.com...
: > >>
: > >> Yep...and Sherril Park is probably the nearest. There's always L.B.
: > >> Houston though :-) The fact that he's at 635 gives him immediate
: > >> freeway access which is a good thing. He's within 15-20 miles of
: > >> several, like Firewheel, even Bear Creek.
: >
: > >> bk
: > >
: > >Thanks for the tip. I was trying to look for the closest decent public
: > >course to the Galeria so I can play early and still not mess with the wife's
: > >plans for the day. Is Sherril closer than Indian Creek from Belt Line and
: > >the Dallas N. Tollway?
: > >
: > >Jay S.
: > >
: > Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
: > Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
:
: Which Tollway intersects Frankford?
They both do, actually.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=dal&ie=UTF8&ll=32.999018,-96.844139&spn=0.023395,0.08008&om=1
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 12:41:49
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On 18 Aug 2006 10:28:43 -0700, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Bobby Knight wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
>> Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
>> Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
>
>Which Tollway intersects Frankford?
>>From the Galleria, North on the N. Texas Tollway, West on George Bush
>Tollway, exit Frankford...but then, you drive a long way on
>Frankford...
>
>Easiest is West on 635, North on 35, exit Frankford, bear right (East)
>and the course is on the left about 1 mile from 35.
>
>Tex
Correct, no exit on Frankford from the tollway.
bk
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 13:58:30
From: WhiteOut
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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"Jay S." <jays@noemail.com > wrote in message
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> I'll be in Dallas by the Galeria area in . How is this course? What
> good
> public courses are there in the area? Thanks in advance.
>
I have planned several trips, including getting good course recommendations
at www.tripadvisor.com
when i was planning my trip to destin, fl, the folks who posted in the forum
were very helpful. match that with your own research and you should wind up
playing some nice courses without breaking the bank.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 12:39:08
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> In all seriousness, I think that's sound advice. Better advice, though,
> would be to go the other way to Sherrill Park, I think. Since they got
> the "high five" interchange finished, traffic over there actually tends
> to keep moving (in my admittedly limited experience). But I'm splitting
> hairs, there's not *that* much difference between the commutes.
I agree on the drive(s)...almost identical.
However, I think better golf will be found at Indian Creek...I've never
felt the need to send someone to Sherrill Park. :)
Tex
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 20:46:16
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
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: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > In all seriousness, I think that's sound advice. Better advice, though,
: > would be to go the other way to Sherrill Park, I think. Since they got
: > the "high five" interchange finished, traffic over there actually tends
: > to keep moving (in my admittedly limited experience). But I'm splitting
: > hairs, there's not *that* much difference between the commutes.
:
: I agree on the drive(s)...almost identical.
: However, I think better golf will be found at Indian Creek...I've never
: felt the need to send someone to Sherrill Park. :)
Better golf course at Indian Creek, worse pace of play.
He should really just head your way and play the Tribute. :)
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 11:34:28
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : But I wouldn't send him that way...way too much city driving.
>
> I'm chuckling at the idea that city driving can be avoided or
> even mitigated from the nexus of Belt Line and the Tollway. :)
> (Otherwise known as "hell.")
You Westies are too funny :) All traffic out East of you is bad..city
or freeway...why? It's because everyone wants to live out East :)
My rule of thumb for any out of town visitors is to keep them off city
streets (stop lights, cross traffic, etc) as much as possible. Sure,
635 and 35 are busy freeways and will jam up...he'll need to travel 4
miles(?) on 635 and another 5 (?) on 35...then he arrives at the
course. EXTREMELY hard to get lost this way....where as popping him on
to Frankford for 10 miles and 20 lights is painful.
Tex
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 19:15:42
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > : But I wouldn't send him that way...way too much city driving.
: >
: > I'm chuckling at the idea that city driving can be avoided or
: > even mitigated from the nexus of Belt Line and the Tollway. :)
: > (Otherwise known as "hell.")
:
: You Westies are too funny :) All traffic out East of you is bad..city
: or freeway...why? It's because everyone wants to live out East :)
It's not so much "east" anymore, though, it's "northeast." I don't
mind Dallas proper all that much these days. But just about anything
north of Forest Lane is hellish to me.
: My rule of thumb for any out of town visitors is to keep them off city
: streets (stop lights, cross traffic, etc) as much as possible. Sure,
: 635 and 35 are busy freeways and will jam up...he'll need to travel 4
: miles(?) on 635 and another 5 (?) on 35...then he arrives at the
: course. EXTREMELY hard to get lost this way....where as popping him on
: to Frankford for 10 miles and 20 lights is painful.
In all seriousness, I think that's sound advice. Better advice, though,
would be to go the other way to Sherrill Park, I think. Since they got
the "high five" interchange finished, traffic over there actually tends
to keep moving (in my admittedly limited experience). But I'm splitting
hairs, there's not *that* much difference between the commutes.
--
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C-List Charter Member
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:44:44
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Bobby Knight wrote:
> On 18 Aug 2006 10:28:43 -0700, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Bobby Knight wrote:
> >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
> >> Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
> >
> >Which Tollway intersects Frankford?
> >>From the Galleria, North on the N. Texas Tollway, West on George Bush
> >Tollway, exit Frankford...but then, you drive a long way on
> >Frankford...
> >
> >Easiest is West on 635, North on 35, exit Frankford, bear right (East)
> >and the course is on the left about 1 mile from 35.
> >
> >Tex
>
> Correct, no exit on Frankford from the tollway.
Sorry BK, I take that back, there is a Frankford exit on the North
Texas Tollway..my bad!
But I wouldn't send him that way...way too much city driving.
Humbly,
Tex
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:57:53
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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Tex <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
: But I wouldn't send him that way...way too much city driving.
I'm chuckling at the idea that city driving can be avoided or
even mitigated from the nexus of Belt Line and the Tollway. :)
(Otherwise known as "hell.")
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C-List Charter Member
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 12:50:20
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Indian Creek Golf Course in Carrollton, TX
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On 18 Aug 2006 10:44:44 -0700, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>Bobby Knight wrote:
>> On 18 Aug 2006 10:28:43 -0700, "Tex" <marktexkoenig@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Bobby Knight wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:08:29 -0500, "Jay S." <jays@noemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> Almost equidistant, but Indian Creek is easier to get to from there.
>> >> Straight up the tollway to Frankford and take a left.
>> >
>> >Which Tollway intersects Frankford?
>> >>From the Galleria, North on the N. Texas Tollway, West on George Bush
>> >Tollway, exit Frankford...but then, you drive a long way on
>> >Frankford...
>> >
>> >Easiest is West on 635, North on 35, exit Frankford, bear right (East)
>> >and the course is on the left about 1 mile from 35.
>> >
>> >Tex
>>
>> Correct, no exit on Frankford from the tollway.
>
>Sorry BK, I take that back, there is a Frankford exit on the North
>Texas Tollway..my bad!
>But I wouldn't send him that way...way too much city driving.
>
>Humbly,
>Tex
You had me convinced. I just wouldn't mess with 635, ever.
bk
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