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Date: 25 Sep 2006 20:41:32
From: Dondo
Subject: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Date: 25 Sep 2006 21:14:10
From: long&left
Subject: Re: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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Dondo wrote:
> Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
> I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
> don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
> Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
> wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
> the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
> Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
> Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
> distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
>
distance is overrated (unless you're Sparky :). Knowing EXACTLY how far
you hit each iron and having a swing to hit the ball in the right
direction is what's important. If you and I are 160 yds out, what
difference does it make that you hit 6 iron and I hit 5 iron when I'm 5'
from the flagstick and you're 15yds left of the green pin high??
Dave
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 04:13:00
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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In article <1159242092.470202.56160@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com >,
"Dondo" <tsandrich@aol.com > wrote:
> Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
> I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
> don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
> Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
> wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
> the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
> Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
> Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
> distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
Other than for your longest iron, what do you care about half a club
longer? What is that for you: about 5 - 8 yards?
Which irons are more *accurate* for you? That's the only question I'd
ask.
--
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admit the sky is blue?'
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an all PC shop. ' -- 'me finally admitting that Pixar isn't an all PC shop.'
'... when most Pixar movies were made ... Final Cut Pro didn't even exist.'
-- 'So sue me. I just wrote my remarks off the top of my head.'
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 17:13:16
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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"Dondo" <tsandrich@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159242092.470202.56160@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
> I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
> don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
> Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
> wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
> the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
> Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
> Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
> distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
>
If you need extra distance with the Taylor Mades, take an extra club. There
isn't any standard for the lofts of irons and many manufactures make clubs
now that are a full club longer than older clubs. For example, if you used
to use a 7 iron from 150 yards, with a new set it may very well be an 8
iron. It is just that the loft of the clubs are different. If you are real
concerned about what the number stamped on the bottom of the iron is, write
a different number on it.
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 16:18:53
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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Could be the shafts, or it could be simply that the lofts are stronger
on the Cobras. There's no real "standard" for iron lofts, and some
companies can make their 5i the same loft as someone elses 4i ... but
all that really means is it has a different number on the bottom ... and
then you have a gap at the low end and they can sell you a GW 8^). Most
companies publish the technical specs for their clubs, so you can start
by checking the web for the loft numbers.
As other folks have said, if you actually like the shorter clubs better
and hit them straighter, then it's not really a problem. Use an extra
fairway wood or hybrid for the longer shots (which most of us should do
anyway). If it's really bugging you, you would probably need to visit a
good club maker and they can analyze the lofts, shaft length, and shaft
flex and try to give you an answer ... anything else is just a WAG.
Rob
Dondo wrote:
> Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
> I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
> don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
> Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
> wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
> the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
> Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
> Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
> distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
>
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Date: 26 Sep 2006 07:17:15
From: sfb
Subject: Re: I don't understand golf club technology, help!
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What kind of shafts? Often graphite shafts are 1/2" longer than steel.
"Dondo" <tsandrich@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159242092.470202.56160@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Ok, I have two sets of irons. One is a set of Taylor Made 300's which
> I really like the lie on. I also have a set of cobra 2100's which
> don't set up with as nice a lie for me. The problem is that the
> Cobra's are at least a half a club longer than the Taylor Mades. I was
> wondering what could account for this. The Cobra's seem more shut than
> the Taylor's and are perhaps underlofted. I was hoping that the
> Cobra's have newer shafts that account for the difference. I guess
> what I am wondering is if there is anything I can do with my Taylor
> Made irons that look so much nicer at address to give them that extra
> distance. Any help greatly appreciated.
>
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