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Date: 06 Sep 2006 06:16:59
From: dave_bonnell@hotmail.com
Subject: Help! I want a long iron.
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Hi all,
First, I am not a golfer and I don't have my own clubs. However, I
feel pretty comfortable with irons. It doesn't seem to matter what I
use...they're always rental clubs. But I hit them straight and solid.
Not 100% sure of distance. Regardless of which iron (9, 7, 5, 3), I
seem to hit all equally well.
I'm looking for a recommendation on a long iron. I have heard some
people say that it is difficult to hit a driving iron, but if I'm ok
with 'normal' irons shouldn't it be easy to make the transition? I'm
not really looking to purchase a set, just a single club.
FWIW, I'm no good with a driver (wood) and I'm sure my swing has lots
of room for improvement.
Cheers,
Dave
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 16:54:54
From: Rob Davis
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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Hmmm ... kind of an odd request, and the way you mix the terms "long
iron" and "driving iron" and "normal iron" leads me to believe you're
not too familiar with current equipment (yes?).
The "longest" iron most folks play these days is a 3i or possibly a 2i
... you might be able to find a 1i, but they're fairly rare any more.
The trend is to replace long irons (even down to the 4i or lower) with
"hybrid" or "rescue" clubs (lofts in the 16*-22* range). There are also
things termed "driving irons", but they're kind of odd ducks and not
made/used too much.
The other problem in recommending something is that these things tend to
be pretty personal in nature ... what's great for one person may suck
for someone else ... so your best bet is to try them yourself.
Having said all that ... I suspect you'd be best off with a low-lofted
hybrid ... the TaylorMade Rescue Mid is a pretty good club that can be
had for a reasonable price (especially used). You might also look for a
used 2i with a big cavity-back head, something like a Callaway.
Rob
dave_bonnell@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First, I am not a golfer and I don't have my own clubs. However, I
> feel pretty comfortable with irons. It doesn't seem to matter what I
> use...they're always rental clubs. But I hit them straight and solid.
> Not 100% sure of distance. Regardless of which iron (9, 7, 5, 3), I
> seem to hit all equally well.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation on a long iron. I have heard some
> people say that it is difficult to hit a driving iron, but if I'm ok
> with 'normal' irons shouldn't it be easy to make the transition? I'm
> not really looking to purchase a set, just a single club.
>
> FWIW, I'm no good with a driver (wood) and I'm sure my swing has lots
> of room for improvement.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 16:03:38
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
> in summary, if you don't have anything constructive to add in the way of
> a response,
>
> just keep on trucking, the guy wasn't asking for anything but a
> suggestion for a - long iron.
>
> some subjective responses are worth little or nothing.
>
> strictly trailer trash.
Has anyone else here noticed how Curtis tends to write his posts so the
sentences are shorter when descending - sort of a symmetry tic?
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- vfe
He's practicing verbal feng shui on RSG!
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 00:39:06
From: Big Clobby Bobber
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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It is a well documented characteristic of a monkey with a keyboard.
The monkey loses interest in the keyboard, and it's attention wanders to
bananas and masturbation.
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1157583817.954478.109090@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
>> in summary, if you don't have anything constructive to add in the way of
>> a response,
>>
>> just keep on trucking, the guy wasn't asking for anything but a
>> suggestion for a - long iron.
>>
>> some subjective responses are worth little or nothing.
>>
>> strictly trailer trash.
>
> Has anyone else here noticed how Curtis tends to write his posts so the
> sentences are shorter when descending - sort of a symmetry tic?
>
> dfgsdfkjbhsdfjlbsdjlvbsjldvbhjlsdvbjladvbhjlvbjlsadvbjlasdvbljsdvbjlsvbjlsvb
> wefweffwefdfefwqfqwfqwfwqef.
>
> wedfweqfqwefweqfweqfffffawfasdkqwjebfqejhgbjlqegbvgvbqdjlb,
> wefjfbjhbfjsjlbfsjlvbjlsv.
>
> skdjvbfwifhkvjnqkpjvndjkpvdkpfjvndkjvndjkvjk;dvn and
> dfjkbsdfjkbdfgjbdf.
>
> sdkvbfsdkvjbsdkvjbksjdvbkasjvbkasjvb.
> sdcvnsdkavj.
>
> - vfe
>
> He's practicing verbal feng shui on RSG!
>
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 17:49:56
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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"Big Clobby Bobber" <Big Clobby@myspace.com > wrote in message
news:KSJLg.66847$5i3.9185@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> It is a well documented characteristic of a monkey with a keyboard.
>
> The monkey loses interest in the keyboard, and it's attention wanders to
> bananas and masturbation.
>
>
> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1157583817.954478.109090@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> fiveiron@webtv.net wrote:
>>> in summary, if you don't have anything constructive to add in the way of
>>> a response,
>>>
>>> just keep on trucking, the guy wasn't asking for anything but a
>>> suggestion for a - long iron.
>>>
>>> some subjective responses are worth little or nothing.
>>>
>>> strictly trailer trash.
>>
<snippage >
When monkey's 'mate' they often grip the -bar
Trucking through the fantasies of Annika
less than One cares to know.
Merely a suggestion.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 17:06:33
From:
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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in summary, if you don't have anything constructive to add in the way of
a response,
just keep on trucking, the guy wasn't asking for anything but a
suggestion for a - long iron.
some subjective responses are worth little or nothing.
strictly trailer trash.
>m h o
>=A0v =83e
>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0e s p r i t =A0d e =A0c o r p
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 09:52:44
From: cja
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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dave_bonnell@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Why? What are you trying to fill in your game? I mean, you don't
> > know how far you currently hit the clubs you use now.
>
> I'm not really trying to fill anything, I just enjoy hitting the ball.
> For me, additional distance is additional fun/accomplishment. Since
> (1) I'm not consistent with a traditional driver and (2) I'm much more
> comfortable with an iron in my hands than any other club, I was looking
> for a recommendation on a driving iron.
>
> Specifically, I'd like to know if using a driving iron is difficult
> (with respect to swinging an 'ordinary' iron. If the learning curve
> isn't steep, then I'd be happy to entertain recommendations for a
> beginner.
>
In this age of hybrids, 1- and 2-irons are becoming rare. I just did a
quick check at eBay and found several 1-irons available. Pick up a
cheap one, and see how you like it.
1-irons are notoriously hard to hit. It's not so much that a steep
learning curve is required, it's that most people can't generate enough
swing speed to get anything out of it. If you can hit a 3-iron 200
yards, as you say, you might have the swing speed for a 1- or 2-iron.
You should think about trying a 3-wood, or a 17- or 19-degree hybrid.
Typically, a 3-wood is easier to hit than a driver, and hybrids are
easier to hit than long irons. You say you're not consistent with a
driver. I'm not surprised by that, since you said you don't own a set
of clubs. I have no doubt you would be able to hit any modern driver,
providing its shaft is appropriate for you, if you owned it and
practiced with it. Clubs from the rental rack are likely to not be
right for you. The discomfort you have with anything but an iron should
go away with practice.
- cja
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 09:31:53
From: dave_bonnell@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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> Why? What are you trying to fill in your game? I mean, you don't
even
> know how far you currently hit the clubs you use now.
I'm not really trying to fill anything, I just enjoy hitting the ball.
For me, additional distance is additional fun/accomplishment. Since
(1) I'm not consistent with a traditional driver and (2) I'm much more
comfortable with an iron in my hands than any other club, I was looking
for a recommendation on a driving iron.
Specifically, I'd like to know if using a driving iron is difficult
(with respect to swinging an 'ordinary' iron. If the learning curve
isn't steep, then I'd be happy to entertain recommendations for a
beginner.
As far as distance goes, I don't think my current numbers matter much
if a driving iron will give me a distance improvement. My cheap-o 3
iron and cheap-o balls give me around 200 yards and change.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 08:05:43
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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dave_bonnell@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First, I am not a golfer and I don't have my own clubs. However, I
> feel pretty comfortable with irons. It doesn't seem to matter what I
> use...they're always rental clubs. But I hit them straight and solid.
> Not 100% sure of distance. Regardless of which iron (9, 7, 5, 3), I
> seem to hit all equally well.
>
> I'm looking for a recommendation on a long iron.
Why? What are you trying to fill in your game? I mean, you don't even
know how far you currently hit the clubs you use now.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 22:44:18
From: Kevin D. Timm
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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cja wrote:
>
>
> 1-irons are notoriously hard to hit. It's not so much that a steep
> learning curve is required, it's that most people can't generate enough
> swing speed to get anything out of it. If you can hit a 3-iron 200
> yards, as you say, you might have the swing speed for a 1- or 2-iron.
>
Might is the operative word. I hit 4 iron 200 and 3 iron over 225 with
typical carry & roll well over 250 (hard to give a real number this year
as we've had no rain in N. Texas for 18 months)
That said, I picked up a 1 iron about 6 weeks ago as my 'wood' game has
disappeared. I have used it a few times, specifically on par 5's and am
very pleased with it. To the point where a 1I, 3I was over the green on
a 525yd hole.
Good luck to the OP, it's fun when it works -- but honestly, damned
embarrassing when it doesn't :(
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 16:55:26
From:
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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>FWIW, I'm no good with a driver (wood) and I'm
>sure my swing has lots of room for improvement.
>Cheers,
>Dave
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you are one step ahead of the game, in that you have an open mind.
one irons through wedges are available new from golfsmith stores, and
also "maybe" in the used club dept.. They'll put one together for you.
a driving iron, usually a 10=B0 loft, comes in several configurations -
and is not very romantic so to speak, maybe good up to a couple hundred
yards.
you might just take a look at a 10=B0 hybrid club - it'll do for
knocking balls around if that is all you want to do.
check the used club stores, thrift shops, and the like.
you are probably a pretty good ball striker.
>m h o
>=A0v =83e
>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0e s p r i t =A0d e =A0c o r p
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 19:19:26
From: uncle k
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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<dave_bonnell@hotmail.com > wrote in message
>........................................
> FWIW, I'm no good with a driver (wood) and I'm sure my swing has lots
> of room for improvement.
Stop right there! If distance is what turns your crank, either hit the big
dog or sit down. If you are able to hit irons as solid and straight as you
say, you CAN hit a driver well enough (and much farther), if only you can
get past your brain-lock. Today's giant drivers are easy to hit and very
forgiving of mishits. Even a used cheapie will do the trick. Just try to
avoid the ones with screws in the face.
You don't want to know about the scores of variables involved in how to
achieve distance, both in the science of the swing, and the science of the
weapons, and the ultimate match of those to your
build/strength/flexibility/ability... do you?
Unc
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 22:46:47
From: Kevin D. Timm
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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uncle k wrote:
>
> <dave_bonnell@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >........................................
> > FWIW, I'm no good with a driver (wood) and I'm sure my swing has lots
> > of room for improvement.
>
> Stop right there! If distance is what turns your crank, either hit the big
> dog or sit down. If you are able to hit irons as solid and straight as you
> say, you CAN hit a driver well enough (and much farther), if only you can
> get past your brain-lock. Today's giant drivers are easy to hit and very
> forgiving of mishits. Even a used cheapie will do the trick. Just try to
> avoid the ones with screws in the face.
>
> You don't want to know about the scores of variables involved in how to
> achieve distance, both in the science of the swing, and the science of the
> weapons, and the ultimate match of those to your
> build/strength/flexibility/ability... do you?
>
> Unc
I don't know. I can hit an iron a damn long way, and it's ALWAYS
straighter. That said, my longest driver is longer than my longest
iron. But, if I have to choose, it's the 1 Iron.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 19:24:41
From: 3putt
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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Wal-Mart still carries the Knight 1 iron/driving iron.
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 15:40:06
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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Take your pick:
http://www.tgw.com/customer/search2.jsp?scid=1092&search2=1+iron&a1142=%231+iron
Otto
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Date: 06 Sep 2006 11:42:15
From:
Subject: Re: Help! I want a long iron.
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Rob Davis wrote:
> Hmmm ... kind of an odd request, and the way you mix the terms "long
> iron" and "driving iron" and "normal iron" leads me to believe you're
> not too familiar with current equipment (yes?).
>
> The "longest" iron most folks play these days is a 3i or possibly a 2i
> ... you might be able to find a 1i, but they're fairly rare any more.
> The trend is to replace long irons (even down to the 4i
The 1 iron of 50 years ago would be a three iron today.
There haven't really been many 1 irons around for several decades
already.
I still use my 2 iron 5-6 times per round, off the tee on short tight
holes and for hitting par 5s...
-PA
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