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Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:42:16
From: IcUrdazedandconfused
Subject: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


If God has a sense of humor.....

Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......

(I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
course might be - North or South...)

What other pairings would be good??









 
Date: 11 Sep 2006 20:55:26
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:42:16 -0400, IcUrdazedandconfused
<IcUrdazed@confused.net > wrote:

>If God has a sense of humor.....
>
>Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>
>(I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
>course might be - North or South...)
>
>What other pairings would be good??
>
You already tried this in early August. Check the thread "Dream
Pairings". Nothing much has changed. :-)
--
--
___,
\o


  
Date: 12 Sep 2006 18:24:00
From: IcUrdazedandconfused
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 20:55:26 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:42:16 -0400, IcUrdazedandconfused
><IcUrdazed@confused.net> wrote:
>
>>If God has a sense of humor.....
>>
>>Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>>
>>(I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
>>course might be - North or South...)
>>
>>What other pairings would be good??
>>
>You already tried this in early August. Check the thread "Dream
>Pairings". Nothing much has changed. :-)

Aw, crap. So I bait the hook 2X and still can't catch anything!!


 
Date: 12 Sep 2006 05:24:42
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> If God has a sense of humor.....
>
> Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>
> (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
> course might be - North or South...)
>
> What other pairings would be good??

Given Tranny's (wonder what regular is using that name?) recent posting
style, I'd say

tranny and bigoldcat. Likely the only ones that would be checking each
other out as they tee up the ball..........



 
Date: 12 Sep 2006 11:58:03
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> If God has a sense of humor.....
>
> Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>
> (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
> course might be - North or South...)
>
> What other pairings would be good??

*yawn*
TWAT

Tran


 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 22:08:07
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



annika1980 wrote:
> ynaught wrote:
> > IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play with
> > Dene.
>
> I've done it. I lived.

Whereas I was deaf for a week. CLANG!

-Greg



 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 19:57:25
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



ynaught wrote:
> IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play with
> Dene.

I've done it. I lived.



  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 03:04:43
From: ynaught
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1158202645.529287.152210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> ynaught wrote:
>> IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play
>> with
>> Dene.
>
> I've done it. I lived.
>

They should have given you a "trophy" for doing so.




 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 19:56:01
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



The Hammer wrote:
>
> I would tee it up with a one legged, one eyed drooling mongoloid in
> heat before I would tee it off with Mr. Knight. If fact, the mongo
> would probably offer more stimulating converation. And probably a
> better game.
>

I've played with both of them. Once you get past the occasional
leg-humping, it ain't that bad. And the mongoloid tried real hard, too.



 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 14:04:27
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



The Hammer wrote:
> IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> > If God has a sense of humor.....
> >
> > Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
> >
> > (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
> > course might be - North or South...)
> >
> > What other pairings would be good??
>
> I would tee it up with a one legged, one eyed drooling mongoloid in
> heat before I would tee it off with Mr. Knight. If fact, the mongo
> would probably offer more stimulating converation. And probably a
> better game.
>
> the Hammer

Eric,

I'm compelled, in all fairness, to ask you this question. If BK showed
up at the Crony/Cuwad tournament, you wouldn't play with him?

-Greg



 
Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:53:07
From: The Hammer
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
> If God has a sense of humor.....
>
> Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>
> (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
> course might be - North or South...)
>
> What other pairings would be good??

I would tee it up with a one legged, one eyed drooling mongoloid in
heat before I would tee it off with Mr. Knight. If fact, the mongo
would probably offer more stimulating converation. And probably a
better game.

the Hammer



  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 01:24:14
From: ynaught
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158180787.229646.289780@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
>> If God has a sense of humor.....
>>
>> Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>>
>> (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
>> course might be - North or South...)
>>
>> What other pairings would be good??
>
> I would tee it up with a one legged, one eyed drooling mongoloid in
> heat before I would tee it off with Mr. Knight. If fact, the mongo
> would probably offer more stimulating converation. And probably a
> better game.


IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play with
Dene.





  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 01:24:13
From: ynaught
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158180787.229646.289780@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> IcUrdazedandconfused wrote:
>> If God has a sense of humor.....
>>
>> Mr. Knight, Mr Strulowitz you're on the tee......
>>
>> (I would not be as presumptuous to judge the direction this golf
>> course might be - North or South...)
>>
>> What other pairings would be good??
>
> I would tee it up with a one legged, one eyed drooling mongoloid in
> heat before I would tee it off with Mr. Knight. If fact, the mongo
> would probably offer more stimulating converation. And probably a
> better game.


IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play with
Dene.




 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 10:27:07
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


Any golfer and a grizzly bear.



 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 05:34:46
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



ynaught wrote:
> "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1158202645.529287.152210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > ynaught wrote:
> >> IOW, unlike those terrible people from RSG-NW, you'd be happy to play
> >> with
> >> Dene.
> >
> > I've done it. I lived.
> >
>
> They should have given you a "trophy" for doing so.

Anni prefers new ones.

Tex



 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 20:40:52
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



newellsatwsu wrote:
> The Hammer wrote:
> > Unlike that pathetic
> > excuse of a host at the event your way Greg, where the organizer
> > pandered to the crying of a bunch of fucking wimpering shitstains. He
> > has brought this group to a low we have never seen. And even lower is
> > the fact of no remourse after the harm has been done.. Crap on him,
> > the pathetic waste of sperm he is.
>
> I have plenty of remorse Hammer. I'm sorry everyone could not get
> along and Greg couldn't simply let his grudges go. The culture that
> was being created in terms of RSGNW was not one I wanted Greg to
> perpetuate any further. And he was always the common denominator. And
> when I made the decision I was willing to take the heat for it....and
> have.

There was a right way to handle your supposed dilemma and a wrong way.
You chose the wrong way.

> As far as bringing *this* group to a low we have never seen, you and
> Greg might want to look in the mirror. Your contributions to the group
> dynamic over the last month (since Greg's return) have been above and
> beyond the call of duty.
>
> That said, I might just show up in April. I have no problem meeting
> anyone for golf.

Since I will likely be intrinsically involved with this tournament,
particularily if it takes place in Az., let me tell you this in the
clearest terms possible......

You will be warmly received, as would the 5/6! I will not return
pettiness with pettiness, which is precisely why I questioned Eric
about BK's attendance.

BTW Eric.....excellent answer.

-Greg



 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 18:14:05
From: newellsatwsu
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


The Hammer wrote:
> Unlike that pathetic
> excuse of a host at the event your way Greg, where the organizer
> pandered to the crying of a bunch of fucking wimpering shitstains. He
> has brought this group to a low we have never seen. And even lower is
> the fact of no remourse after the harm has been done.. Crap on him,
> the pathetic waste of sperm he is.

I have plenty of remorse Hammer. I'm sorry everyone could not get
along and Greg couldn't simply let his grudges go. The culture that
was being created in terms of RSGNW was not one I wanted Greg to
perpetuate any further. And he was always the common denominator. And
when I made the decision I was willing to take the heat for it....and
have.

As far as bringing *this* group to a low we have never seen, you and
Greg might want to look in the mirror. Your contributions to the group
dynamic over the last month (since Greg's return) have been above and
beyond the call of duty.

That said, I might just show up in April. I have no problem meeting
anyone for golf.



 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 15:45:53
From: The Hammer
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



> Eric,
>
> I'm compelled, in all fairness, to ask you this question. If BK showed
> up at the Crony/Cuwad tournament, you wouldn't play with him?
>
> -Greg

Dene,

That is a great question. And coming from you, who I consider to be a
truly great friend, mind, and intellect, it is worthy of a candid
respone.

If I lived in DFW, I would not bother with Bobby. Because in a purely
social setting, he has no appeal. For someone who they says he has
accomplished so much in this life and has so much material assets, he
don't seem too dang happy to me. I don't know a whole lot of
millionaires in their 70's who routinely hang around a golf newsgroup
cussing trolls, spammers, and people who they don't like, like me! And
I don't know a lot of millionaires who have this incessant need to
gossip on a crony list. To talk about others and hunger for the latest
"dope" on others, and these "others" being folks of no real consequence
or importance in his REAL life, if he even has one.

But if Bobby was to spend the time and money to come to the
Crony/Cumwad tourney, he would be warmly received by me and all those
in attendance. And if anyone had a problem with Bobby being there, I
would tell them to kiss my Jewish Joizy ass and stay home. Because if
he took the time and interest to come, that puts him high on my list,
and my personal feelings become subordinated. Unlike that pathetic
excuse of a host at the event your way Greg, where the organizer
pandered to the crying of a bunch of fucking wimpering shitstains. He
has brought this group to a low we have never seen. And even lower is
the fact of no remourse after the harm has been done.. Crap on him,
the pathetic waste of sperm he is.

Because golf if a gentlemen's game. And on the course, we should
behave like gentlemen. What happens before we step to the first tee
becomes forgotten and not to be brought up. We enjoy the course, the
scenery, the competition, and shake hands as gentlemen after the game.
And then when we go home, and if we still hate each others guts, so be
it. But for those few hours we were out there enjoying our great
game, we were able to rise above the petty bullshit.

I very much doubt BK will show. Because being a social animal first,
he must pander to his peer group. He will come if his peer group
shows. What a sad way to be. I attend an event if it appeals to me,
not because of who is or is not there. I attend an event knowing
that probably 90% will hate my guts and wish I rotted in hell. That is
fine, I accept that. If 10% accept me and treat me in a respectful
manner, to me that was a tremendous success. What a relief knowing
you don't have to pander yourself to an insignicant group of cronies,
who are scattered all over the coutntry, of no importance in real,
everday terms, and never can or will be

The Hammer



  
Date: 15 Sep 2006 03:21:01
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158273953.238977.15620@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> If I lived in DFW, I would not bother with Bobby. Because in a purely
> social setting, he has no appeal. For someone who they says he has
> accomplished so much in this life and has so much material assets, he
> don't seem too dang happy to me.

He seemed quite happy to me and I enjoyed playing golf with him. You, he,
and I were teamed on the Friday of RSG_DFW II (aka BTI) and you appeared to
enjoy yourself. Perhaps I misread your state of mind.

>I don't know a whole lot of
> millionaires in their 70's who routinely hang around a golf newsgroup
> cussing trolls, spammers, and people who they don't like, like me!

You hang around here and cuss people you do not like. You also seem to have
a good deal of anger towards anyone who has friends since "crony" means
close, personal, friend, esp one of long acquaintance. I guess that means
since you do not have cronies, that you do not have friends or at least none
of long acquaintance.

> But if Bobby was to spend the time and money to come to the
> Crony/Cumwad tourney, he would be warmly received by me and all those
> in attendance. And if anyone had a problem with Bobby being there, I
> would tell them to kiss my Jewish Joizy ass and stay home.

Yeah, and if he dropped out you'd be too much of a jerk to handle the
resignation via personal email, but would take it to RSG and blast his
character.

> I very much doubt BK will show. Because being a social animal first,
> he must pander to his peer group. He will come if his peer group
> shows.

I cannot speak for Bobby, but I would bet $5k (to pull a figure out of the
air) that if all of "his peers" showed up at your tournament, he still would
not come. Just a guess on my part.

>What a sad way to be. I attend an event if it appeals to me,
> not because of who is or is not there.

What the hell is appealing about an RSG event if not the people??? I can
play nice golf courses without leaving my state. I play at RSG events to
meet new people and become reacquainted with those I have met in the past.

>




   
Date: 14 Sep 2006 21:21:41
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote:
(boring bullshit snipped)
>
> What the hell is appealing about an RSG event if not the people??? I can
> play nice golf courses without leaving my state. I play at RSG events to
> meet new people and become reacquainted with those I have met in the past.
>
>
>
well said! I live at a nice golf course. I also belong to a nice club
close by. WTF do I have to travel from here to there to play your golf
course(s) in an RSG event? Well, maybe it's the nice people that attend
the RSG events that I enjoy meeting and/or reacquainting with. I
thoroughly enjoyed RSG-NW last year for instance, even given the TITPB
antics prior to the event. I had a ball playing alternate shot with Rude
Dog, had fun being chauffered by skinny Pflum, who was expertly
navigated by Thor. A round with Kelly Newell is something that cannot be
explained, it can only be experienced. Mark K (Tex) constantly on the
computer making sure I didn't win the flipping tournament when I know I
did (he determined that I came in 4th and that's bullshit!). Losing a
beer match and happily buying because it was FUN trying to not lose.
I've been in weather before but the lightning storm at this RSG event
was somethin' else. That night it only rained for a couple of hours but
the golf course the next day was a river...so, were we washed out? Nah,
Scott N negotiated a revised course on the high side so we could play
golf that day. Well done Scott! Only problem was we were an hour late
getting started and I guess the river down 9 and 18 were going to
subside by noon because we were advised half way through our round that
we "may not finish because there's a shotgun start tournament at noon"
WTF? So, we played fast and I got chastised by Peter Strauss about a
drop that I had to take. It normally would have required a double drop
to determine where the ball was in play, but I shortcutted the procedure
and got my ball in play where it would have been anyway. Well, did I
hear about that! Those damned rules guys are everywhere!! Anyway, you
can say anything you want about the politics of RSG events...the truth
is, they are a blast with a bunch of people who like to play golf and
don't worry about much else. Those that worry about other stuff don't
show up. Me, I'm already looking forward to next year even though it's a
long trip from San Luis Obispo, to Los Angeles, to Seattle, to Pasco, WA
via some small and large airplanes. Thanks Scott for taking the time to
put this event together! I'm even thinking about spoiling RSG-WI with my
presence next year. Can't let Rancho Bob get to far ahead of me RSG
miles :)
--
Dave
You are meant to play the ball as it lies, a fact that may help to touch
on your own objective approach to life. ~Grantland Rice


   
Date: 18 Sep 2006 16:12:47
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



"The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan" <nospam@nospam.net > >
> You hang around here and cuss people you do not like. You also seem to
> have a good deal of anger towards anyone who has friends since "crony"
> means close, personal, friend, esp one of long acquaintance. I guess that
> means since you do not have cronies, that you do not have friends or at
> least none of long acquaintance.
>
Hammertoe is the biggest hyocrite to ever grace RSG. Dene is his "crony".




 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 08:35:44
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



The poser formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote:

> So it *is* about the people?
>
> >And i will be sure to
> > enjoy every hole on the course. It is me against the hole. I don't
> > care if my partner is you or some Arab terrorist. It is totally
> > insignificant at that moment in time.
>
> So it is *not* about the people?
>
> Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

Eric, you're seeing this guy's M.O. He doesn't care about the give and
take of a serious discussion. All he looks for is wiggle room in a
sordid attempt to embarrass you while showing off for the people he
tries to impress. His whole social life is within the internet. Look
at his posting history on hundreds of other newsgroups.

In essence, he's longnleft, but smarter. Neither are worth your time.

-Greg



  
Date: 15 Sep 2006 09:16:03
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


Dene wrote:
> The poser formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote:
>
>> So it *is* about the people?
>>
>>> And i will be sure to
>>> enjoy every hole on the course. It is me against the hole. I don't
>>> care if my partner is you or some Arab terrorist. It is totally
>>> insignificant at that moment in time.
>> So it is *not* about the people?
>>
>> Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
>
> Eric, you're seeing this guy's M.O. He doesn't care about the give and
> take of a serious discussion. All he looks for is wiggle room in a
> sordid attempt to embarrass you while showing off for the people he
> tries to impress. His whole social life is within the internet. Look
> at his posting history on hundreds of other newsgroups.
>
> In essence, he's longnleft, but smarter. Neither are worth your time.
>
> -Greg
>


Hey, I never said I was smart. But I sure can read a shit disturbing
baby with hurt feelings when I see one. All you've done since late May
is 1) be gone, which was refreshing, and 2) stir up shit and personally
offend people because they wouldn't let you play golf with them. Poor
baby...


 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 03:35:10
From: The Hammer
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan wrote:
> "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158273953.238977.15620@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > If I lived in DFW, I would not bother with Bobby. Because in a purely
> > social setting, he has no appeal. For someone who they says he has
> > accomplished so much in this life and has so much material assets, he
> > don't seem too dang happy to me.
>
> He seemed quite happy to me and I enjoyed playing golf with him. You, he,
> and I were teamed on the Friday of RSG_DFW II (aka BTI) and you appeared to
> enjoy yourself. Perhaps I misread your state of mind.


Absolutely enjoyed myself. The course was nice, everyone was on their
best behavior and civil, what was not to enjoy. I enjoyed the moment.
Was not looking for lifetime friendships to come out of it.

> >I don't know a whole lot of
> > millionaires in their 70's who routinely hang around a golf newsgroup
> > cussing trolls, spammers, and people who they don't like, like me!
>
> You hang around here and cuss people you do not like. You also seem to have
> a good deal of anger towards anyone who has friends since "crony" means
> close, personal, friend, esp one of long acquaintance. I guess that means
> since you do not have cronies, that you do not have friends or at least none
> of long acquaintance.

Oh I have friends. Plenty at the club, and in the neighborhood..
Have friends at work that I have known for 15 years. My business
partner and I are the closest of friends. And these are people of
substance, not superficial like the likes of you and your ilk. And
none of them I am sure have a crony list they need to go to for
constant validation. Most of us normal folks don't need a virtual
support group like yours. I don't want friends who need such, because
it shows how weak and insecure they are. Those that have a daily need
for gossip and posturing are shit to me.
>

> I cannot speak for Bobby, but I would bet $5k (to pull a figure out of the
> air) that if all of "his peers" showed up at your tournament, he still would
> not come. Just a guess on my part.


His loss, not ours.
>
> What the hell is appealing about an RSG event if not the people??? I can
> play nice golf courses without leaving my state. I play at RSG events to
> meet new people and become reacquainted with those I have met in the past.


I don't need some big lovefest. I don't need validation from some
large group. I come and inevitably there will be someone or some small
group you will gel with. If you held another DFW outing, I might just
come. unless, there was some large groundswell like the crybabies at
NW and you told me to stay home! And if i came, maybe 90% of you'all
will ignore me and treat me like crap. Hey, that is fine! Go for it!
But 10% won't, and that is all I care about. And i will be sure to
enjoy every hole on the course. It is me against the hole. I don't
care if my partner is you or some Arab terrorist. It is totally
insignificant at that moment in time.

The Hammer

.



  
Date: 15 Sep 2006 12:09:00
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158316510.782103.213780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> You hang around here and cuss people you do not like. You also seem to
>> have
>> a good deal of anger towards anyone who has friends since "crony" means
>> close, personal, friend, esp one of long acquaintance. I guess that
>> means
>> since you do not have cronies, that you do not have friends or at least
>> none
>> of long acquaintance.
>
> Oh I have friends. Plenty at the club, and in the neighborhood..
> Have friends at work that I have known for 15 years. My business
> partner and I are the closest of friends.

Ah, then you do have cronies. My mistake.

>And these are people of substance, not superficial like the likes of you
>and your ilk.

The people who called me when I was in the intensive care unit to see how I
was doing and to wish me well, these people are superficial?

>> What the hell is appealing about an RSG event if not the people??? I can
>> play nice golf courses without leaving my state. I play at RSG events to
>> meet new people and become reacquainted with those I have met in the
>> past.
>
>
> I don't need some big lovefest. I don't need validation from some
> large group. I come and inevitably there will be someone or some small
> group you will gel with. If you held another DFW outing, I might just
> come. unless, there was some large groundswell like the crybabies at
> NW and you told me to stay home! And if i came, maybe 90% of you'all
> will ignore me and treat me like crap. Hey, that is fine! Go for it!
> But 10% won't, and that is all I care about.

So it *is* about the people?

>And i will be sure to
> enjoy every hole on the course. It is me against the hole. I don't
> care if my partner is you or some Arab terrorist. It is totally
> insignificant at that moment in time.

So it is *not* about the people?

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.




  
Date: 16 Sep 2006 22:31:25
From: Roger Pattee
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


On 15 Sep 2006 03:35:10 -0700, "The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com >
typed:

(snipped)

> It is me against the hole. I don't
>care if my partner is you or some Arab terrorist. It is totally
>insignificant at that moment in time.
>
>The Hammer
-----------
I don't have a dog in the usual fight that seems to take up much of
RSG, but...to throw in my two cents..I do have a problem with SOME I'd
play with..

I would have a problem with playing with a person (aka terrorist) that
suddenly decided to really make a statement. Now, I am a people
person..but I got my limits. I am getting old..I don't heal as quickly
as I use to.

Now, the chances of someone making the big time with Allah, at a golf
course with an RSG event ongoing, is pretty damn slim..thankfully.

Never the less, I have a hard enough time putting right now the way it
is..I don't need someone exploding themselves for their religion and
future world as they think it will be upon their demise. My hearing is
damn near gone the way it is..I don't need what little is left to go
with the blast..I know, I know..that may sound picky..but..

The rules I work under right now require me to carry full time, I'd
hate to be brought up on charges for NOT carrying on the damn golf
course..geezz..what, now I have to bust a cap on someone while
attempting to putt too? I am NOT going to practice that on the
range..er, firing range that is. (this is suppose to be comical, read
it that way)

Think about the line; watch who? which one?
Do you always have an activator sticking out of your shirt like that?
Shit..I just shot someone who forgot to take off an electronic anti
theft price tag..damn. That's gonna raise my handicap for damn
sure..Which way will the putt break after the cratering? Can you
remove body parts from the line?
How the hell do you repair THAT mark? I need a bigger ball mark tool.

SHIT!

Oh great..now we got a new fucking acronym to deal
with..IEG..Improvised Exploding Golfer.

That's it..I am patting down everyone before we tee off..there are
limits you know! Wait..can we slot the terrorists for the last
foursome off?

Pardon the jocular intervention to the normal RSG social dysfunction.

Ya'll need to stop the antics..k?


 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 03:10:05
From: The Hammer
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



newellsatwsu wrote:
> The Hammer wrote:
> > Unlike that pathetic
> > excuse of a host at the event your way Greg, where the organizer
> > pandered to the crying of a bunch of fucking wimpering shitstains. He
> > has brought this group to a low we have never seen. And even lower is
> > the fact of no remourse after the harm has been done.. Crap on him,
> > the pathetic waste of sperm he is.
>
> I have plenty of remorse Hammer. I'm sorry everyone could not get
> along and Greg couldn't simply let his grudges go. The culture that
> was being created in terms of RSGNW was not one I wanted Greg to
> perpetuate any further. And he was always the common denominator. And
> when I made the decision I was willing to take the heat for it....and
> have.
>
> As far as bringing *this* group to a low we have never seen, you and
> Greg might want to look in the mirror. Your contributions to the group
> dynamic over the last month (since Greg's return) have been above and
> beyond the call of duty.
>
> That said, I might just show up in April. I have no problem meeting
> anyone for golf.


Well , if this April thing comes to fruition, and you show, you will
certainly be welcome and I have no problem at all playing with you or
anyone else.

RSG NW, your baby. If it was me, it would be a thing of the past. The
behavior of some, not just Greg, has tainted it forever. I am not
saying Greg is 100% perfect, in fact who the hell is. But for folks to
threaten to bail out because of one person, is the epitome of chicken
shit and crybabyism. And the way people who never even met Greg ganged
up on him, was a low point for this group. It showed the worst side
of the cronyism here.

I have played in many a tourney at work or at my club and there are
always some that I think very little of and I am sure there are many
that think the same of me. Who cares?. In life, we are not expected to
love everyone are we? It is about golf for me. And you gravitate to
those folks who you do gel with, and screw the rest and just be civil.
Being civil not only because this is a gentlemen's game, but also in
respect to the organizer and the venue. . What is so hard about that?


The Hammer



  
Date: 18 Sep 2006 01:18:15
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....


"The Hammer" <buggertt@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1158315005.522208.89500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>

>
> RSG NW, your baby. If it was me, it would be a thing of the past. The
> behavior of some, not just Greg, has tainted it forever. I am not
> saying Greg is 100% perfect, in fact who the hell is. But for folks to
> threaten to bail out because of one person, is the epitome of chicken
> shit and crybabyism. And the way people who never even met Greg ganged
> up on him, was a low point for this group. It showed the worst side
> of the cronyism here.

Those people came to independent decisions - that is not cronyism, that is
just the result of Greg bing a jerk.




 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 23:22:13
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Heaven or Hell???: Was - OK, I lied....



long&left wrote:
> >
> well said! I live at a nice golf course. I also belong to a nice club
> close by. WTF do I have to travel from here to there to play your golf
> course(s) in an RSG event? Well, maybe it's the nice people that attend
> the RSG events that I enjoy meeting and/or reacquainting with. I
> thoroughly enjoyed RSG-NW last year for instance, even given the TITPB
> antics prior to the event. I had a ball playing alternate shot with Rude
> Dog, had fun being chauffered by skinny Pflum, who was expertly
> navigated by Thor. A round with Kelly Newell is something that cannot be
> explained, it can only be experienced. Mark K (Tex) constantly on the
> computer making sure I didn't win the flipping tournament when I know I
> did (he determined that I came in 4th and that's bullshit!). Losing a
> beer match and happily buying because it was FUN trying to not lose.
> I've been in weather before but the lightning storm at this RSG event
> was somethin' else. That night it only rained for a couple of hours but
> the golf course the next day was a river...so, were we washed out? Nah,
> Scott N negotiated a revised course on the high side so we could play
> golf that day. Well done Scott! Only problem was we were an hour late
> getting started and I guess the river down 9 and 18 were going to
> subside by noon because we were advised half way through our round that
> we "may not finish because there's a shotgun start tournament at noon"
> WTF? So, we played fast and I got chastised by Peter Strauss about a
> drop that I had to take. It normally would have required a double drop
> to determine where the ball was in play, but I shortcutted the procedure
> and got my ball in play where it would have been anyway. Well, did I
> hear about that! Those damned rules guys are everywhere!! Anyway, you
> can say anything you want about the politics of RSG events...the truth
> is, they are a blast with a bunch of people who like to play golf and
> don't worry about much else. Those that worry about other stuff don't
> show up. Me, I'm already looking forward to next year even though it's a
> long trip from San Luis Obispo, to Los Angeles, to Seattle, to Pasco, WA
> via some small and large airplanes. Thanks Scott for taking the time to
> put this event together! I'm even thinking about spoiling RSG-WI with my
> presence next year. Can't let Rancho Bob get to far ahead of me RSG
> miles :)
> --
> Dave

Awww gush!

-Greg