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Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:51:31
From: Steve
Subject: Golf swing mechanics question
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Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from the
downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that what
really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
forearms rotating.
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 10:56:23
From: KnighT
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
Register there.
The best golf website....ever.
First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
flawless golf swing.
Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
archives, then work from there.
babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
uncock.
The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
It has proven very effective for my game.
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 11:25:23
From: Booker Little
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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"KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1162925783.084780.188750@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
>
> Register there.
>
> The best golf website....ever.
>
> First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> flawless golf swing.
>
> Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> archives, then work from there.
>
> babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> uncock.
>
> The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> It has proven very effective for my game.
>
I suggest you review "Basic Motion" videos and report back. The most
important part of the golf swing is "impact."
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 11:41:12
From: larry
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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On 7 Nov 2006 10:56:23 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com > wrote:
>www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
>
>Register there.
>
>The best golf website....ever.
>
>First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
>of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
>download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
>but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
>This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
>flawless golf swing.
>
>Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
>thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
>archives, then work from there.
>
>babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
>arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
>condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
>bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
>wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
>straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
>should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
>The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
>wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
>on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
>fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
>pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
>uncock.
>
>The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
>motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
>your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
>It has proven very effective for my game.
What I salivate for is to play a match against someone who is focused
on that detail stuff-- for big bucks! Easy pickins! That is the
very recipe for "paralysis by analysis" doesn't work, can't work, and
especially doesn't work on the golf course.
I f you want to play well quickly, just relax and swing. Almost the
most important thing is to grip it "like you would hold a baby bird."
When your grip is that light you can feel and swing the clubhead--
like every great champion does. Bobby Jones said he "threw" the
clubhead through the ball every swing in his career. You can't do
that while tense or thinking of flat wrists and counterclockwise
turning, etc. etc.
The diabolical thing about the golf swing is that you can either learn
to just relax and swing now-- or quit-- or get it later if you persist
because there is simply no other way to become consistent enough to
play low handicap golf.
Larry
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:51:02
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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In article <arn1l2pb66fpnsgtplrgsja1h70gfgsi9h@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@delmardata.com > wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2006 10:56:23 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
> >
> >Register there.
> >
> >The best golf website....ever.
> >
> >First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> >of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> >download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> >but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> >This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> >flawless golf swing.
> >
> >Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> >thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> >archives, then work from there.
> >
> >babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> >arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> >condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> >bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> >wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> >straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> >should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> >The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> >wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> >on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> >fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> >pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> >uncock.
> >
> >The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> >motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> >your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> >It has proven very effective for my game.
>
> What I salivate for is to play a match against someone who is focused
> on that detail stuff-- for big bucks! Easy pickins! That is the
> very recipe for "paralysis by analysis" doesn't work, can't work, and
> especially doesn't work on the golf course.
>
> I f you want to play well quickly, just relax and swing. Almost the
> most important thing is to grip it "like you would hold a baby bird."
> When your grip is that light you can feel and swing the clubhead--
> like every great champion does. Bobby Jones said he "threw" the
> clubhead through the ball every swing in his career. You can't do
> that while tense or thinking of flat wrists and counterclockwise
> turning, etc. etc.
>
> The diabolical thing about the golf swing is that you can either learn
> to just relax and swing now-- or quit-- or get it later if you persist
> because there is simply no other way to become consistent enough to
> play low handicap golf.
>
> Larry
Riiiiiiight. Because good golfers never focus on elements of their
mechanics...
...except the vast majority of the PGA Tour...
...and LPGA Tour...
...and Nationwide (or whatever it's called this year)...
...etc.
Focussing on elements of ones athletic movements is how you get better.
You focus on the largest elements first and then as those get better and
better, you focus on progressively smaller elements. It's often helpful
to have a good instructor aid you in this process, because often what
feels large and important to us is not what actually needs to have our
focus, but nevertheless, focussing on elements of the golf swing is only
natural and correct.
What's funny is that the guy who has spent more time telling us about
the "one thing" -- the changed once every couple of weeks latest "one
thing", that is -- now claims he knows that we need not focus on
anything except what *he* claims is important.
Well let me tell you, Larry: I've seen your swing, and it sucks rocks.
--
'It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix.'
"It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix'
(Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 19:53:59
From: Auddog
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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I don't know if this will help much, but check this out
http://www.nike.com/nikegolf/swingportrait/index.html - Tiger's slow motion
swing by Nike.
It will show you so many things that are important to a good golf swing.
Check out his head, almost no movement. Check out the club head lag,
wrists still cocked near the bottom of his swing. Notice how his hips
rotate and then open in correlation to his hands.
Hope this help.
A
www.swingstripe.com
Can you follow it?
"larry" <larry@delmardata.com > wrote in message
news:arn1l2pb66fpnsgtplrgsja1h70gfgsi9h@4ax.com...
> On 7 Nov 2006 10:56:23 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
>>
>>Register there.
>>
>>The best golf website....ever.
>>
>>First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
>>of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
>>download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
>>but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
>>This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
>>flawless golf swing.
>>
>>Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
>>thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
>>archives, then work from there.
>>
>>babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
>>arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
>>condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
>>bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
>>wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
>>straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
>>should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
>>The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
>>wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
>>on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
>>fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
>>pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
>>uncock.
>>
>>The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
>>motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
>>your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
>>It has proven very effective for my game.
>
> What I salivate for is to play a match against someone who is focused
> on that detail stuff-- for big bucks! Easy pickins! That is the
> very recipe for "paralysis by analysis" doesn't work, can't work, and
> especially doesn't work on the golf course.
>
> I f you want to play well quickly, just relax and swing. Almost the
> most important thing is to grip it "like you would hold a baby bird."
> When your grip is that light you can feel and swing the clubhead--
> like every great champion does. Bobby Jones said he "threw" the
> clubhead through the ball every swing in his career. You can't do
> that while tense or thinking of flat wrists and counterclockwise
> turning, etc. etc.
>
> The diabolical thing about the golf swing is that you can either learn
> to just relax and swing now-- or quit-- or get it later if you persist
> because there is simply no other way to become consistent enough to
> play low handicap golf.
>
> Larry
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 06:40:37
From: glfnaz
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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"Steve" <steve@bs-s.com > wrote in message
news:57CdnQPUIKFfn83YnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from
> the downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
>
> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that what
> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
> forearms rotating.
>
If you have a good top of the swing position, then you are in perfect impact
alignment for hands and wrists. The left wrist will uncock some prior to
impact.
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 03:30:56
From:
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Steve wrote:
> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from the
> downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
>
> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that what
> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
> forearms rotating.
Don't know of a good site but I'll have a bash. IMO, most of what the
hands and wrists do is a consequence of what the arms do. As you turn
back and forth your right arm folds and unfolds whilst keeping your
left arm straight (your arms also go up and down a bit obviously). And
because the right hand is attached to the clubshaft below the left hand
this causes the left wrist to cock and uncock up and down providing you
keep your right elbow pointed downward as most good players do. It
also makes the left wrist rotate a small amount back and forth and
that's really the only rotation of the wrist that is necessary in the
swing. The other thing that must happen as part of this same motion is
that the left wrist will naturally flatten and right wrist will bend
backward during the backswing. It is important to try to maintain this
flat left wrist/hinged back right wrist position during the downswing
all the way to impact if you can. So the left wrist still uncocks as a
result of the straightening right arm, but the right wrist remains
hinged back at least somewhat all the way to impact. This is important
for achieving a good impact position with the hands leading the
clubhead (AKA 'clubhead lag') and is probably the only thing the
hands/wrists must do that does not necessarily happen automatically as
the right arm folds and unfolds. Many players struggle with this and
let their right wrist straighten up to early. So if you practice the
arm/wrist action without turning your body I suppose the motion might
resemble the move you would make if you were chopping wood, but in fact
if you execute it correctly you would actually miss the wood because of
the need to 'lag' the clubhead during the downswing, which I referred
to earlier! However bear in mind that the objective in golf is not to
chop down on the ball so much as to make the club go up and down as the
body turns back and forth. OK?
Rgds, B
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 20:52:08
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Steve wrote:
> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew
> of a good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be
> doing from the downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it
> in detail.
Actually; if you don't mind blowing $15 then David Ledbetter has some DVD's
available on Amazon that gives you the exact information you seek.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 16:48:33
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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steve.baus@gmail.com wrote:
> Just watched it. Had seen it before but did not focus on the wrists.
> It teally, really seems to me that T.W. does not cock and uncock the
> wrists but is simply rotating the forearms.
I noticed the same thing. Absolutely no right wrist cock. Only
movement is what Tomesello describes, namely the flattening of the left
wrist via the rotation of his left forearm.
Another thing that struck me correlates to what TW says about his
backswing. He tries to take the club back on the same plane
throughout. The handle doesn't get ahead of the shaft or vice versa.
Same plane as setup.
Beautiful!
-Greg
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 15:22:08
From:
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Just watched it. Had seen it before but did not focus on the wrists.
It teally, really seems to me that T.W. does not cock and uncock the
wrists but is simply rotating the forearms.
Auddog wrote:
> I don't know if this will help much, but check this out
> http://www.nike.com/nikegolf/swingportrait/index.html - Tiger's slow motion
> swing by Nike.
>
> It will show you so many things that are important to a good golf swing.
> Check out his head, almost no movement. Check out the club head lag,
> wrists still cocked near the bottom of his swing. Notice how his hips
> rotate and then open in correlation to his hands.
>
> Hope this help.
>
> A
>
> www.swingstripe.com
> Can you follow it?
>
>
> "larry" <larry@delmardata.com> wrote in message
> news:arn1l2pb66fpnsgtplrgsja1h70gfgsi9h@4ax.com...
> > On 7 Nov 2006 10:56:23 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
> >>
> >>Register there.
> >>
> >>The best golf website....ever.
> >>
> >>First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> >>of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> >>download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> >>but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> >>This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> >>flawless golf swing.
> >>
> >>Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> >>thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> >>archives, then work from there.
> >>
> >>babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> >>arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> >>condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> >>bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> >>wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> >>straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> >>should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> >>The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> >>wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> >>on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> >>fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> >>pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> >>uncock.
> >>
> >>The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> >>motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> >>your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> >>It has proven very effective for my game.
> >
> > What I salivate for is to play a match against someone who is focused
> > on that detail stuff-- for big bucks! Easy pickins! That is the
> > very recipe for "paralysis by analysis" doesn't work, can't work, and
> > especially doesn't work on the golf course.
> >
> > I f you want to play well quickly, just relax and swing. Almost the
> > most important thing is to grip it "like you would hold a baby bird."
> > When your grip is that light you can feel and swing the clubhead--
> > like every great champion does. Bobby Jones said he "threw" the
> > clubhead through the ball every swing in his career. You can't do
> > that while tense or thinking of flat wrists and counterclockwise
> > turning, etc. etc.
> >
> > The diabolical thing about the golf swing is that you can either learn
> > to just relax and swing now-- or quit-- or get it later if you persist
> > because there is simply no other way to become consistent enough to
> > play low handicap golf.
> >
> > Larry
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 12:50:50
From: KnighT
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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The most important section of the swing is impact. It is imperative
that you reach impact with a flat left wrist.
Booker Little wrote:
> "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162925783.084780.188750@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
> >
> > Register there.
> >
> > The best golf website....ever.
> >
> > First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> > of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> > download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> > but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> > This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> > flawless golf swing.
> >
> > Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> > thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> > archives, then work from there.
> >
> > babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> > arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> > condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> > bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> > wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> > straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> > should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> > The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> > wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> > on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> > fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> > pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> > uncock.
> >
> > The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> > motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> > your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> > It has proven very effective for my game.
> >
> I suggest you review "Basic Motion" videos and report back. The most
> important part of the golf swing is "impact."
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Date: 07 Nov 2006 11:36:15
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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KnighT wrote:
> www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
>
> Register there.
>
> The best golf website....ever.
>
> First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> flawless golf swing.
>
> Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> archives, then work from there.
>
> babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> uncock.
>
> The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> It has proven very effective for my game.
Excellent post. Thoroughly enjoyed the Tomasello video, especially his
explanation of the left inert arm. Only problem I have is that I can't
practice it. It rained 4 inches yesterday, a record, and more is on
the way.
Maybe July.....
-Greg
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 08:19:26
From:
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Steve wrote:
> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from the
> downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
>
> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that what
> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
> forearms rotating.
Check out swingacademy.com
This is a pretty useful site.
It has a free video swing analysis software that allows you to get
video off your camera and review it side-by-side with other videos in
slow motion.
I like to see myself and pick my swing apart.
Only thing is that it doesn't work with Firefox.
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 00:18:22
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Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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larry wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2006 10:56:23 -0800, "KnighT" <bryanjunk777@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >www.LynnBlakeGolf.com
> >
> >Register there.
> >
> >The best golf website....ever.
> >
> >First download the video in the 'Lynn Blake section' called 'the sounds
> >of silence' - a lesson with Vicki. Then after you watch all 3 parts,
> >download the videos by Tom Tomasello. You should watch them in order,
> >but you can cut straight to the two on hands and arms (one for each).
> >This is a master teaching pro showing you exactly how to perform a
> >flawless golf swing.
> >
> >Then watch all the other vids. They are outstanding. If you are
> >thirsty for more after that then the forum is amazing. Start in the
> >archives, then work from there.
> >
> >babblebro has given a very nice summary of what the hands, wrists, and
> >arms do during the swing. Basically, bend your right wrist in a level
> >condition (NEVER ALLOW THE RIGHT WRIST TO COCK) and 'freeze' it in this
> >bent position. While the left arm remains straight the bent right
> >wrist causes the left wrist to flatten. If you stick your left arm out
> >straight, with your fingers pointing straight...then your left wrist
> >should be flat. This is the most important part of the golf swing.
> >The flat left wrist gives directional control. From there the left
> >wrist only turns clockwise on the backswing, and rolls counterclockwise
> >on the downswing. Make sure you only hold the club with the last 3
> >fingers of your left hand (this is a pressure point). As babblebro
> >pointed out, the bending right arm causes the left wrist to cock and
> >uncock.
> >
> >The cocking and uncocking of the left wrist is very much a hammer like
> >motion. Just up and down. Practice this with short chip shots using
> >your Wedge. Chipping is the foundation to build your golf swing on.
> >It has proven very effective for my game.
>
> What I salivate for is to play a match against someone who is focused
> on that detail stuff-- for big bucks! Easy pickins! That is the
> very recipe for "paralysis by analysis" doesn't work, can't work, and
> especially doesn't work on the golf course.
>
> I f you want to play well quickly, just relax and swing. Almost the
> most important thing is to grip it "like you would hold a baby bird."
> When your grip is that light you can feel and swing the clubhead--
> like every great champion does. Bobby Jones said he "threw" the
> clubhead through the ball every swing in his career. You can't do
> that while tense or thinking of flat wrists and counterclockwise
> turning, etc. etc.
>
> The diabolical thing about the golf swing is that you can either learn
> to just relax and swing now-- or quit-- or get it later if you persist
> because there is simply no other way to become consistent enough to
> play low handicap golf.
>
> Larry
Well I almost agree with you in a sense. However you have missed the
point. The O.P. asked specifically what the hands and wrists do during
the swing so some of us here tried to provide an answer. In my case I
gave an answer based on over 40+ years of playing golf pretty decently
and sometimes very well indeed (I started when I was 7 y.o.). During
that time I have acquired the ability to feel how every part of my body
is working during the swing. So I described it and added the qualifier
'IMO', since one thing I have learned is that everybody experiences the
swing a bit differently. But if the O.P had asked what I think about
when I am playing golf or swinging the club he would have got a very
different answer because 40+ years of playing, practicing, studying and
learning the game of golf has given me a swing that I don't have to
think much about at all and I am usually more likely to be thinking of
what I am going to have for dinner than swing mechanics when I am
playing golf. But that's not what the O.P. asked.
Rgds
Babbs
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 16:22:23
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Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Booker Little wrote:
> <curtjester1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163025842.651512.239980@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Steve wrote:
> >> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
> >> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from
> >> the
> >> downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
> >>
> > I have to laugh a little at your OT. Since it is a golf group and many
> > of the posts are political or whatever, it seems you really are 'OT'.
> >
> >> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
> >> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that
> >> what
> >> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
> >> forearms rotating.
> >
> > There to me is so much swing philosophy even with people hitting the
> > ball well at a high level, that you have to either pay attention to
> > everything or find something that works well for you and hone that to a
> > higher level.
> >
> > I personally think the wrists and hands are the basic motoring device
> > of the swing. Some are swinging two-plane and some are one-plane.
> > Some will push the swing through from the top and all the way through,
> > and some will try to time an altogether release at some point. Martin
> > Green has a site that explains the pushing aspect, and I suspect many
> > one plane instructors do so too. A David Leadbetter would probably be
> > for more of a two-plane drag loading swing.
> >
> > Whatever you do, they have to be timed to a precision for a good golf
> > shot, and when that happens it seems the balance one seeks is right
> > there or just right behind.
> >
> > CJ
>
> Oh Good Grief! A blind person trying to explain seeing. LOL.
And ahhh yes, I do recommend the Grip and Rip it for some..-).
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 14:44:02
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Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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Steve wrote:
> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from the
> downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
>
I have to laugh a little at your OT. Since it is a golf group and many
of the posts are political or whatever, it seems you really are 'OT'.
> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that what
> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
> forearms rotating.
There to me is so much swing philosophy even with people hitting the
ball well at a high level, that you have to either pay attention to
everything or find something that works well for you and hone that to a
higher level.
I personally think the wrists and hands are the basic motoring device
of the swing. Some are swinging two-plane and some are one-plane.
Some will push the swing through from the top and all the way through,
and some will try to time an altogether release at some point. Martin
Green has a site that explains the pushing aspect, and I suspect many
one plane instructors do so too. A David Leadbetter would probably be
for more of a two-plane drag loading swing.
Whatever you do, they have to be timed to a precision for a good golf
shot, and when that happens it seems the balance one seeks is right
there or just right behind.
CJ
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Date: 08 Nov 2006 15:31:51
From: Booker Little
Subject: Re: Golf swing mechanics question
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<curtjester1@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163025842.651512.239980@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Steve wrote:
>> Sorry about the OT post about golf but was wondering if someone knew of a
>> good website that showed what the hands and wrists should be doing from
>> the
>> downswing until after impact or could maybe explain it in detail.
>>
> I have to laugh a little at your OT. Since it is a golf group and many
> of the posts are political or whatever, it seems you really are 'OT'.
>
>> I have seen / heard that you use the wrists like you would if you are
>> chopping wood or hitting a nail with a hammer but it seems to me that
>> what
>> really is happening is the wrists do not do much but it is more arms /
>> forearms rotating.
>
> There to me is so much swing philosophy even with people hitting the
> ball well at a high level, that you have to either pay attention to
> everything or find something that works well for you and hone that to a
> higher level.
>
> I personally think the wrists and hands are the basic motoring device
> of the swing. Some are swinging two-plane and some are one-plane.
> Some will push the swing through from the top and all the way through,
> and some will try to time an altogether release at some point. Martin
> Green has a site that explains the pushing aspect, and I suspect many
> one plane instructors do so too. A David Leadbetter would probably be
> for more of a two-plane drag loading swing.
>
> Whatever you do, they have to be timed to a precision for a good golf
> shot, and when that happens it seems the balance one seeks is right
> there or just right behind.
>
> CJ
Oh Good Grief! A blind person trying to explain seeing. LOL.
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