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Date: 26 Sep 2006 22:45:19
From: abhi
Subject: Forged v/s other type of irons

What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
and accuracy.

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Date: 26 Sep 2006 22:36:46
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Byron Nelson - RIP

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:34:04 -0400, Zuke <me@privacy.net > wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Bobby Knight wrote:

>> A giant among giants. He's one of the few professional golfers that
>> gave more back to the game than he received.
>> ___,
>
>I don't know why you'd say that. It seems to me most of the
>top pros give a lot back to the game. Most realize how fortunate
>they are. People think it's easy flying around, giving clinics,
>playing pro-ams. I bet it gets boring pretty quickly.

I say it because it's true. He's done all of the above since he was
34, and retired, and much of it for free. That's 60 years.

If you think that today's pros are playing pro ams, and giving
clinics for nothing you're pretty naive.

You have to remember the paltry amount of money he earned in
comparison to today's purses. If nothing else, his tournament has
raised more for charity than any other, and he's been a great
ambassador for the sport. Only Arnie approaches him in the respect
that pro golf has shown him.

Date: 27 Sep 2006 04:46:27
From: The poster formerly known as Colleyville Alan
Subject: Re: Byron Nelson - RIP

"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:34:04 -0400, Zuke <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Bobby Knight wrote:
>
snip
> You have to remember the paltry amount of money he earned in
> comparison to today's purses.

Paltry indeed. I read that in his last year of competition, he won the
French Open and the purse was not enough to pay his hotel bill.

Date: 27 Sep 2006 00:30:39
From: taltos
Subject: Re: Byron Nelson - RIP

"Bobby Knight" <bknight@conramp.net > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:34:04 -0400, Zuke <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Sep 2006, Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>>> A giant among giants. He's one of the few professional golfers that
>>> gave more back to the game than he received.
>>> ___,
>>
>>I don't know why you'd say that. It seems to me most of the
>>top pros give a lot back to the game. Most realize how fortunate
>>they are. People think it's easy flying around, giving clinics,
>>playing pro-ams. I bet it gets boring pretty quickly.
>
>
> I say it because it's true. He's done all of the above since he was
> 34, and retired, and much of it for free. That's 60 years.
>
> If you think that today's pros are playing pro ams, and giving
> clinics for nothing you're pretty naive.
>
> You have to remember the paltry amount of money he earned in
> comparison to today's purses. If nothing else, his tournament has
> raised more for charity than any other, and he's been a great
> ambassador for the sport. Only Arnie approaches him in the respect
> that pro golf has shown him.

>>>During his 11 win streak in WW2, he did not play for cash, he played for
>>>war bonds. In that year, he never finished out of the top ten. Wide
>>>fairways Byron, and rest at peace, you have deserved both. You will now
>>>be reunited with your friends and competitors. God Bless Sir. Paul

Date: 27 Sep 2006 15:12:56
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

"abhi" <member15@nomx.golfingupdate.com > wrote in message
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> What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
> that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
> and accuracy.

Frankly, there are probably no differences discernable to most or all
golfers between the 2 types of clubhead, all else being equal. Of course
all else is never equal that I have seen, so no apples to apples comparison
is ever possible. (For example, forged clubs tend to be more of a blade
style, while cast clubs tend to be more of a cavity back style. There is
some crossover of course, but they are never exactly the same).

Date: 27 Sep 2006 13:56:53
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:19:48
From: Silvio Bierman
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

"abhi" <member15@nomx.golfingupdate.com > wrote in message
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> What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
> that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
> and accuracy.
>
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>

Not at all. I play forged mizuno mp33 (1-pw) irons for a few years now and
played cast blades (mcgregor xp/270) before. Had some mild cavity maxfli
evolution irons (cast but very soft material) before that. Never felt much
difference, either between cavity/blade and cast/forged.

The maxfli irons nicked very easily which is usually said about forged
irons. The mizunos are the most durable and somehow they seem to never stop
shining although I never clean em.

The shafts make a lot of difference though...

Regards,

Silvio Bierman

Date: 27 Sep 2006 14:07:08
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

jeffc wrote:
> "abhi" <member15@nomx.golfingupdate.com> wrote in message
> news:6$6132$70819$1159310719@golfingupdate.com...
> >
> > What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
> > that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
> > and accuracy.
>
> Frankly, there are probably no differences discernable to most or all
> golfers between the 2 types of clubhead, all else being equal. Of course
> all else is never equal that I have seen, so no apples to apples comparison
> is ever possible. (For example, forged clubs tend to be more of a blade
> style, while cast clubs tend to be more of a cavity back style. There is
> some crossover of course, but they are never exactly the same).

If you have hit both and can't tell the difference, you don't know
anything to begin with. A pure strike with a forged blade is hands
down the best feeling in golf. No cast club even comes close.

Date: 28 Sep 2006 00:08:03
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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>
> jeffc wrote:
>> "abhi" <member15@nomx.golfingupdate.com> wrote in message
>> news:6$6132$70819$1159310719@golfingupdate.com...
>> >
>> > What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
>> > that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
>> > and accuracy.
>>
>> Frankly, there are probably no differences discernable to most or all
>> golfers between the 2 types of clubhead, all else being equal. Of course
>> all else is never equal that I have seen, so no apples to apples
>> comparison
>> is ever possible. (For example, forged clubs tend to be more of a blade
>> style, while cast clubs tend to be more of a cavity back style. There is
>> some crossover of course, but they are never exactly the same).
>
> If you have hit both and can't tell the difference, you don't know
> anything to begin with. A pure strike with a forged blade is hands
> down the best feeling in golf. No cast club even comes close.
>

Accuform Canada, PTM irons.

Date: 28 Sep 2006 10:12:01
From: Alan Murphy
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

"Martin Levac" <vac3@REMOVEvideotron.ca > wrote in message
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> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> jeffc wrote:
>>> "abhi" <member15@nomx.golfingupdate.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6$6132$70819$1159310719@golfingupdate.com...
>>> >
>>> > What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
>>> > that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
>>> > and accuracy.
>>>
>>> Frankly, there are probably no differences discernable to most or all
>>> golfers between the 2 types of clubhead, all else being equal. Of
>>> course
>>> all else is never equal that I have seen, so no apples to apples
>>> comparison
>>> is ever possible. (For example, forged clubs tend to be more of a
>>> blade
>>> style, while cast clubs tend to be more of a cavity back style. There
>>> is
>>> some crossover of course, but they are never exactly the same).
>>
>> If you have hit both and can't tell the difference, you don't know
>> anything to begin with. A pure strike with a forged blade is hands
>> down the best feeling in golf. No cast club even comes close.
>>
>
> Accuform Canada, PTM irons.
Macgregors Tommy Armour Silver Scot and
Jack Nicklaus Muirfields. Incomparable.

Alan

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Date: 28 Sep 2006 05:36:32
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

Ben. wrote:
>A pure strike with a forged blade is hands
> down the best feeling in golf. No cast club even comes close.

I agree with the first sentence, and agreed with the second, until I
tried the new Ping S-58 irons. They have a soft and very responsive
feel, quite similar to good forged clubs. I've ordered a 6-iron, and
will be trying it out for a while, hoping I won't give in to temptation
to get the whole set!
Best,
Ken

Date: 28 Sep 2006 12:14:55
From: Cal Golfer
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

When hit by a robot, there is no difference.
When hit by a human -- whose swing may be different due to factors such
as the club's appearance, topline width, the feeling they got the last
time they swung it -- both may be affected. Not to mention,
consistency, plus the ability to bend shots left or right due to
conditions.

Once you get decent at golf (let's say a mid-handicapper), the mental
side of this game gets more important, and continues to do so until you
get to scratch (I've only been as low as an 8, but I can imagine).

Club appearance, how impact felt the last time you hit the ball well,
and a host of other factors will play into how well you hit the ball
the NEXT TIME.

abhi wrote:
> What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
> that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
> and accuracy.
>
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Date: 28 Sep 2006 11:54:36
From: Cal Golfer
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons

You have asked one of the most controversial questions among
golfers....those players who choose to play forged irons, especially
forged blade-designs, insist they can tell a large difference when
playing.

That difference, however, may not be distance or accuracy.

It may be looks, reputation, feeling in the hands when ball is struck
well, ego, etc.
This is a very mental game we play, so these factors should never be
dismissed without some thought.

Best advice I ever got on this subject: try out different clubs and see
which one you enjoy playing the most. It may not be the set you hit the
furthest or the ones your friends are playing. I started playing with
forged clubs, then tried cast iron cavity backs for several years, and
am now back to forged and playing better than ever. I believe there is
a differnce, even though it may be all in my head.

Many differences are..

abhi wrote:
> What is the difference between forged and the other types of irons
> that all these companies advertise. How does it help in distance
> and accuracy.
>
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