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Date: 31 Oct 2006 10:49:11
From: Lio Frost-Ainley
Subject: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
two.
I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even when
I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit horrendous
slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
Any tips to get this beast performing? Thanks in advance.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 18:30:38
From: Roger Thaat
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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Lio Frost-Ainley wrote:
> I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
> regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
> consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
> two.
>
> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even when
> I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit horrendous
> slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
>
> Any tips to get this beast performing? Thanks in advance.
>
>
If you have 2 drivers that perform well, next time you have the urge to
spend more money on a third, why not donate it to the Salvation Army or
some other worthwhile charity instead of bemoaning your situation here.
--
Roger Thaat
You may remember me. I used to be called Howard U. Dewing, but only one
guy ever answered the question.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 17:34:40
From:
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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long&left wrote:
> strat68@eudoramail.com wrote:
> > OTOH, somethings turn out to be investments regardless of intent. Re:
> > my moniker, it refers to a guitar made in 1968. I bought it for $500
> > in 1980. There were some who doubted it was a good deal, they
> > disbelived and they mocked me. But the sad fellow who parted with that
> > guitar yesterday, is a lot sadder today. It's been in a lot of places
> > it shouldn't have been, but I do know, I bought it to play and I will
> > again.
> >
>
> yeah, but can you putt with it?
No, but if I sold it I could get several years membership at a nice
club. I leave the putting to yes sophia, or kzg forged- both under
$100 (yes was used).
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 20:37:05
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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I love my Yes Sophia. She can really roll a ball.
Otto
<strat68@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1162344880.672822.91510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> No, but if I sold it I could get several years membership at a nice
> club. I leave the putting to yes sophia
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 15:52:47
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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But, L&L, you *are* handsome and a good player. And a good person.
<g >
Lio: I share a lot of the previous posts here, but, you might also
look at the shaft specs, etc. to see if they are making a difference.
My 2 cents.
On 31, 1:50 pm, long&left <nos...@diespammers.com > wrote:
> stra...@eudoramail.com wrote:
>
> > On 31, 4:49 am, "Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ain...@cern.ch>
> > wrote:
> >> I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
> >> regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
> >> consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
> >> two.
>
> >> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
> >> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even when
> >> I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit horrendous
> >> slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
>
> > Dor, Dor, it hurts when I ram my head into a brick wall!!!!
>
> > Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
> > the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
> > certain anser putters.who in the world buys golf equipment as an investment? I buy golf
> equipment to sooth my ego, or make me think maybe I'll play better, or
> look good, or any number of other stupid reasons...but an investment.
> Nah, that's what oil and gas stocks are for :)- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 16:43:01
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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dugjustdug wrote:
> But, L&L, you *are* handsome and a good player. And a good person.
> <g>
>
why thank you Doug. I love you too buddy!
:)
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 01:43:32
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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On Tue, 31 2006 16:43:01 -0800, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com >
wrote:
> dugjustdug wrote:
> > But, L&L, you *are* handsome and a good player. And a good person.
> > <g>
> >
>
> why thank you Doug. I love you too buddy!
> :)
One of you is a liar.
:-)))
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 11:46:07
From: Lio Frost-Ainley
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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Strange. There was a time when this was a golf discussion group and one
could ask a golfing question and get a few interesting and relevant replies.
I don't need you guys to tell me I'm stupid - a) I'm a golfer, so it's a
pre-requisite and b) I can look an the mirror and tell myself I'm an idiot
for buying the club.
BTW - the Hi-Bore has a regular Fujikura shaft too - maybe it performs
differently because it's a different colour........ ;-) I suppose I'm just
the first person in history tempted to buy a new driver, thinking it might
go further than the old one ...... ;-)
"dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn.com > wrote in message
news:1162338767.427611.47780@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> But, L&L, you *are* handsome and a good player. And a good person.
> <g>
>
> Lio: I share a lot of the previous posts here, but, you might also
> look at the shaft specs, etc. to see if they are making a difference.
> My 2 cents.
>
> On 31, 1:50 pm, long&left <nos...@diespammers.com> wrote:
>> stra...@eudoramail.com wrote:
>>
>> > On 31, 4:49 am, "Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ain...@cern.ch>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree
>> >> with
>> >> regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
>> >> consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with
>> >> these
>> >> two.
>>
>> >> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really
>> >> not
>> >> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and
>> >> even when
>> >> I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit
>> >> horrendous
>> >> slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
>>
>> > Dor, Dor, it hurts when I ram my head into a brick wall!!!!
>>
>> > Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
>> > the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
>> > certain anser putters.who in the world buys golf equipment as an
>> > investment? I buy golf
>> equipment to sooth my ego, or make me think maybe I'll play better, or
>> look good, or any number of other stupid reasons...but an investment.
>> Nah, that's what oil and gas stocks are for :)- Hide quoted text -- Show
>> quoted text -
>
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:27:41
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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Lio Frost-Ainley wrote:
> Strange. There was a time when this was a golf discussion group and one
> could ask a golfing question and get a few interesting and relevant replies.
>
> I don't need you guys to tell me I'm stupid - a) I'm a golfer, so it's a
> pre-requisite and b) I can look an the mirror and tell myself I'm an idiot
> for buying the club.
>
> BTW - the Hi-Bore has a regular Fujikura shaft too - maybe it performs
> differently because it's a different colour........ ;-) I suppose I'm just
> the first person in history tempted to buy a new driver, thinking it might
> go further than the old one ...... ;-)
>
if you don't want a stupid answer, don't ask a stupid question. You have
two drivers that you reportedly hit well, buy a third that you can't hit
worth shit, and you want advice on how to "get the beast to perform" ??
duh, sell it
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Date: 02 Nov 2006 07:12:02
From: Matt
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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"Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ainley@cern.ch > wrote in message
news:ei9ttb$470$1@cernne03.cern.ch...
> Strange. There was a time when this was a golf discussion group and one
> could ask a golfing question and get a few interesting and relevant
> replies.
>
> I don't need you guys to tell me I'm stupid - a) I'm a golfer, so it's a
> pre-requisite and b) I can look an the mirror and tell myself I'm an idiot
> for buying the club.
>
> BTW - the Hi-Bore has a regular Fujikura shaft too - maybe it performs
> differently because it's a different colour........ ;-) I suppose I'm just
> the first person in history tempted to buy a new driver, thinking it might
> go further than the old one ...... ;-)
take a lesson...
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 23:01:26
From: Matt
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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"Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ainley@cern.ch > wrote in message
news:ei7672$vbb$1@cernne03.cern.ch...
>I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
>regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
>consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
>two.
>
> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even
> when I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit
> horrendous slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
>
> Any tips to get this beast performing? Thanks in advance.
Why get rid of a driver you're comfortable with? You're not really going to
gain any distance. Im still using a Titleist 983E. Im not any longer with
any of the new drivers. It will be in the bag till I cave in the face.
What shaft is in the Hi Bore?
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 14:26:58
From:
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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On 31, 4:50 pm, long&left <nos...@diespammers.com > wrote:
> stra...@eudoramail.com wrote:
> > Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
> > the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
> > certain anser putters.
> who in the world buys golf equipment as an investment? I buy golf
> equipment to sooth my ego, or make me think maybe I'll play better, or
> look good, or any number of other stupid reasons...but an investment.
> Nah, that's what oil and gas stocks are for :)-
Of course I didn't mean buy with sole intent as an investment, but I do
think about depreciation when something doesn't work out and I get the
idea to sell (especially $300+ for a single club).
OTOH, somethings turn out to be investments regardless of intent. Re:
my moniker, it refers to a guitar made in 1968. I bought it for $500
in 1980. There were some who doubted it was a good deal, they
disbelived and they mocked me. But the sad fellow who parted with that
guitar yesterday, is a lot sadder today. It's been in a lot of places
it shouldn't have been, but I do know, I bought it to play and I will
again.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 16:41:50
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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strat68@eudoramail.com wrote:
>
> On 31, 4:50 pm, long&left <nos...@diespammers.com> wrote:
>> stra...@eudoramail.com wrote:
>>> Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
>>> the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
>>> certain anser putters.
>
>> who in the world buys golf equipment as an investment? I buy golf
>> equipment to sooth my ego, or make me think maybe I'll play better, or
>> look good, or any number of other stupid reasons...but an investment.
>> Nah, that's what oil and gas stocks are for :)-
>
> Of course I didn't mean buy with sole intent as an investment, but I do
> think about depreciation when something doesn't work out and I get the
> idea to sell (especially $300+ for a single club).
>
> OTOH, somethings turn out to be investments regardless of intent. Re:
> my moniker, it refers to a guitar made in 1968. I bought it for $500
> in 1980. There were some who doubted it was a good deal, they
> disbelived and they mocked me. But the sad fellow who parted with that
> guitar yesterday, is a lot sadder today. It's been in a lot of places
> it shouldn't have been, but I do know, I bought it to play and I will
> again.
>
yeah, but can you putt with it?
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 13:35:53
From:
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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On 31, 4:49 am, "Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ain...@cern.ch >
wrote:
> I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
> regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
> consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
> two.
>
> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even when
> I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit horrendous
> slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
Dor, Dor, it hurts when I ram my head into a brick wall!!!!
Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
certain anser putters.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 13:50:00
From: long&left
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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strat68@eudoramail.com wrote:
>
> On 31, 4:49 am, "Lio Frost-Ainley" <Lio.Frost-Ain...@cern.ch>
> wrote:
>> I have both the Cleveland Launcher 330 and the 460 (both 10.5 degree with
>> regular Fujikura shaft) and love both. I had never hit a driver so
>> consistently long and straight (sometimes with a slight draw) as with these
>> two.
>>
>> I just bought the Cleveland Hi-Bore with similar specs, and I'm really not
>> comfortable with it. I can't seem to hit it straight too often and even when
>> I do, I'm not as long. On the contrary, I seem to mainly hit horrendous
>> slices. If I pick up the 460 again, I hit it "normally".
>
> Dor, Dor, it hurts when I ram my head into a brick wall!!!!
>
> Seriously: ebay and hurry, percentage wise name brand golf clubs are
> the worst investments in the world except for a few exceptions like
> certain anser putters.
>
who in the world buys golf equipment as an investment? I buy golf
equipment to sooth my ego, or make me think maybe I'll play better, or
look good, or any number of other stupid reasons...but an investment.
Nah, that's what oil and gas stocks are for :)
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 07:07:31
From:
Subject: Re: Cleveland Hi-Bore - looking for tips
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On 31, 8:37 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMove#$@^%!@*...@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> I love my Yes Sophia. She can really roll a ball.
>
> Otto
and fem putters are NOT wimpy! I hated the winn grip, I should have
put a paula creamer grip on it instead of a crossline b/w standard ;-)
I was initially looking for a 2nd kzg forged but they stopped making
it. After a few months of auto ebay searching, I got the idea of
trying the yes after watching Goose roll a few smooth ones. So I got
the negative loft plus nearly the exact same head so I can practice
indoors with the kzg with little or no adjustment and keep the yes in
the bag.
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