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Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:29:08
From: Ben.
Subject: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
blowing up the course?
Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 10:38:23
From: johnty
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
> > So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> > blowing up the course?
> >
> > Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> > putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> > we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> > that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> > Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> > for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>
> I love when Ted Knight says to Danny " I guess you do , I guess you do."
My favourite line: "The last time I saw a mouth like that it had a
hook in it!"
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 10:37:20
From: johnty
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. wrote:
> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> blowing up the course?
>
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
It's a story, not a rules lesson. FWIW, Ian Feming gets it wrong in
the Bond-Goldfinger match, too.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:13:16
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
This has bugged the shit out of me for years. I've never
been able to solve it satisfactorily.
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Chris Bellomy
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 09:54:31
From:
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. wrote:
> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> blowing up the course?
>
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
I love when Ted Knight says to Danny " I guess you do , I guess you do."
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 09:28:59
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Big Bobby Clobber wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
> > So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> > blowing up the course?
> >
> > Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> > putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> > we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> > that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> > Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> > for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
> >
> Hmm... Another excuse to fire up the DVD again. Perhaps they were
> playing skins? I don't think the writers (Harold Ramis and Brian Doyle
> Murray, IIRC)were quite up to speed on the rules of competition. ;-)
Perhaps Harold Ramis wasn't, but Brian Dolye, and Bill and I think the
other brothers Murray as former country club caddies themselves,
probably were familiar. The story is loosely based on their experiences
as such. I would wager they had a passing familiarity with the ROG.
And they definitely weren't playing skins, as Lou (Brian Doyle) lays
out the rules at the biginning of the match. To paraphrase: "Lowest
score in regulation match play wins the hole."
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 16:21:12
From: Big Bobby Clobber
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. wrote:
> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> blowing up the course?
>
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>
Hmm... Another excuse to fire up the DVD again. Perhaps they were
playing skins? I don't think the writers (Harold Ramis and Brian Doyle
Murray, IIRC)were quite up to speed on the rules of competition. ;-)
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:15:11
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Big Bobby Clobber <farm.this@spammer > wrote:
> Ben. wrote:
>> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
>> blowing up the course?
>>
>> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
>> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
>> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
>> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
>> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
>> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>>
> Hmm... Another excuse to fire up the DVD again. Perhaps they were
> playing skins? I don't think the writers (Harold Ramis and Brian Doyle
> Murray, IIRC)were quite up to speed on the rules of competition. ;-)
Doug Kenney (of National Lampoon fame) wrote the bulk of it. He
was a golfer, as was Doyle Murray.
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Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 20:46:30
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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art_classmn wrote:
> Wow. An object denser than a black hole. They oughta put you in the
> Smithsonian.
>
> The match ended tied. The bet was 80 grand that Danny would make the
> putt. He made the putt and a playoff for nothing was not necessary.
> Moose and Rocco helped the judge find his checkbook.
What you say makes sense, though I guess you're just dort of a dick.
And remember, Ty Webb does not play golf for money...against people.
So think about it that way.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 20:16:38
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. wrote:
> Frank Ketchum wrote:
> > "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1156692548.540536.106950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> > > blowing up the course?
> > >
> > > Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> > > putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> > > we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> > > that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> > > Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> > > for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
> > >
> >
> > They went double or nothing that Noonan would make the putt. He made it.
>
> So they doubled the bet. What does that have to do with how the match
> is scored? He still made a putt that would, seemingly, tie the match,
> not win.
Wow. An object denser than a black hole. They oughta put you in the
Smithsonian.
The match ended tied. The bet was 80 grand that Danny would make the
putt. He made the putt and a playoff for nothing was not necessary.
Moose and Rocco helped the judge find his checkbook.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 18:23:38
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Frank Ketchum wrote:
> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1156692548.540536.106950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> > blowing up the course?
> >
> > Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> > putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> > we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> > that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> > Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> > for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
> >
>
> They went double or nothing that Noonan would make the putt. He made it.
So they doubled the bet. What does that have to do with how the match
is scored? He still made a putt that would, seemingly, tie the match,
not win.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 14:41:28
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1156728218.107380.152760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>> They went double or nothing that Noonan would make the putt. He made it.
>
> So they doubled the bet. What does that have to do with how the match
> is scored? He still made a putt that would, seemingly, tie the match,
> not win.
>
Well, yeah sinking that putt would have made the match all even. The match
was really about the bet which changed before the putt.
Judge Smails was using a foot wedge earlier in the match thus he should have
been DQed :)
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 23:45:36
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1156692548.540536.106950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> blowing up the course?
>
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>
They went double or nothing that Noonan would make the putt. He made it.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 00:38:21
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Frank Ketchum <fketchum@earthlinknospaam.net > wrote:
>
> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1156692548.540536.106950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
>> blowing up the course?
>>
>> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
>> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
>> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
>> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
>> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
>> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>
> They went double or nothing that Noonan would make the putt. He made it.
OK, so they won the side bet. Got it.
EVENT MATCH RESULT SIDE BET RESULT
Noonan makes Half Win
Noonan misses Loss Loss
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:40:04
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Ben. <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Chris Bellomy wrote:
> >
> >> Doug Kenney (of National Lampoon fame) wrote the bulk of it. He
> >> was a golfer, as was Doyle Murray.
> >
> > Just curious, how do you know Kenney wrote the bulk of the movie?
>
> A faulty recollection of this Golf Digest article:
>
> http://www.golfdigest.com/features/index.ssf?/features/gd200405kennedy.html
>
> > Bonus points: What was Doug Kenny's most famous line delivered on
> > film?
>
> "Food fight?"
In response to some of the Delta's resignation to Dean Wormer kicking
them out of school, Kenny asks Bluto "Well, what the hell we s'posed to
do, you mo-ron?" That was Kenney...RIP.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 00:39:46
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1156707604.036344.143000@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> That was Kenney...RIP.
The Stork is dead?! I mean, we all knew he had brain damage, but after all
these years, . . . . .
DJJ
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:14:22
From: art_classmn
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Ben. <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> > putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> > we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> > that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> > Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> > for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
>
> This has bugged the shit out of me for years. I've never
> been able to solve it satisfactorily.
I remember something along the lines of:
"Hey Judge, double or nothing he makes it!"
Judge replies "You're on"
He made it.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 11:29:08
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Doug Kenney (of National Lampoon fame) wrote the bulk of it. He
> was a golfer, as was Doyle Murray.
Just curious, how do you know Kenney wrote the bulk of the movie? I
was under the impression that it was a collaborative effort between
Murray, Ramis and Kenney. And that it was a spoof lossely based on the
Murray bros Irish Catholic upbringing - the incredibly large family at
the beginning of the movie, Bishop Pickering, and Maggie, and the fact
that they grew up looping at a country club near their Chicagoland
home...
Bonus points: What was Doug Kenny's most famous line delivered on
film?
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 18:48:09
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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Ben. <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> Chris Bellomy wrote:
>
>> Doug Kenney (of National Lampoon fame) wrote the bulk of it. He
>> was a golfer, as was Doyle Murray.
>
> Just curious, how do you know Kenney wrote the bulk of the movie?
A faulty recollection of this Golf Digest article:
http://www.golfdigest.com/features/index.ssf?/features/gd200405kennedy.html
> Bonus points: What was Doug Kenny's most famous line delivered on
> film?
"Food fight?"
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Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:16:59
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: Caddyshack ruling/scoring question?
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In article <1156692548.540536.106950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote:
> So does Noonan really win the match by holing out due to Spackler
> blowing up the course?
>
> Along those lines, how is it that Noonan/Ty Webb won? Before Danny
> putts, Ty says to Danny "Don't worry about this putt...if you miss it,
> we lose." And since he did hole it, through whatever means, wouldn't
> that mean that they tied? Perhaps the Noonan/Webb team had the
> Smails/Dr. Beeper team dormie? But a missed putt/lost hole still makes
> for a tie. Not sure why they wouldn't tie...
Because right before Danny putts, Rodney Dangerfield's character offers
the Judge double or nothing that the kid makes it...
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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