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Date: 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
"resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 04:29:07
From: Watson deMeneux
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Robert Hamilton wrote:
> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
I can. Golf Central religously. Post game and Pre game when there's a
decent tourney on. Week long coverage of majors is great. Euro stuff on
early morning weekends. Don't care much about the N'wide or Chpns
tourneys, but they do a decent job.
Infomericals are like afternoon soaps on the other networks. Just don't
watch 'em. And as for the resort plugs, that's the new face of
commercial television buddy. Product placement is growing in importance
as the :30 sec spot diminishes. Suck it up. That's where all television
will be in 10 years.
--
Watson deMeneux
-Say it out loud next time you're in a restaurant.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 05:31:25
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Watson deMeneux wrote:
> ....And as for the resort plugs, that's the new face of
> commercial television buddy. Product placement is growing in importance
> as the :30 sec spot diminishes. Suck it up. That's where all television
> will be in 10 years.
>
I'll pass on "sucking it up". Lots of better things to do than waste my time
watching "commercial television". I do notice the "placement" of TGC on
DirecTV when I watch hockey games on VS though, but that's about it for TGC
for me.
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 22:59:42
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:457B7EEB.53A516B3@att.net...
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
Do you ever get an opportunity to PLAY golf instead of listen to the
dribble? If I had an easier time to do so I don't believe I'd watch ANY of
it, least of all the TW drivel, except to see the playoff of a major.
Damn I couldn't agree more about the atrocious and inane stupid empty
worthless drivel that ruins watching the few shots that ARE shown. Except
non-American tournaments AND THE LPGA. The Solheim was a MOST exciting
tournament and it was easier to put up with the crap because of the quality
of the ladies' play.
I remember in the Olympic swimming broadcasts O so clearly how "the others"
were NEVER EVEN MENTIONED except lanes 4 and 5. Like we all cared
desperately WHICH OF THE TWO would WIN! More of the same. My daughter was
dating a representative of another country in the event and not only was his
name never mentioned, neither was his country!
It must be a symptom of the sickness of celebrititis, buckitis, elititism,
and depravity.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 08:24:42
From: Michael Anselmo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"George Hibbard" <gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote in message
news:MCLeh.4372$SV1.1942@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> news:457B7EEB.53A516B3@att.net...
>>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
>> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
>> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
>> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
>> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
>> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
>> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
>> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>>
>> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
>> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>>
>
> Do you ever get an opportunity to PLAY golf instead of listen to the
> dribble? If I had an easier time to do so I don't believe I'd watch ANY
> of it, least of all the TW drivel, except to see the playoff of a major.
>
> Damn I couldn't agree more about the atrocious and inane stupid empty
> worthless drivel that ruins watching the few shots that ARE shown. Except
> non-American tournaments AND THE LPGA. The Solheim was a MOST exciting
> tournament and it was easier to put up with the crap because of the
> quality of the ladies' play.
>
> I remember in the Olympic swimming broadcasts O so clearly how "the
> others" were NEVER EVEN MENTIONED except lanes 4 and 5. Like we all cared
> desperately WHICH OF THE TWO would WIN! More of the same. My daughter
> was dating a representative of another country in the event and not only
> was his name never mentioned, neither was his country!
>
> It must be a symptom of the sickness of celebrititis, buckitis, elititism,
> and depravity.
>
>
>
Golf Channel can be very good or very bad. Next year should improve things
somewhat. I don't think you can fill 24/7 with current stuff for 365. It has
its ups and downs. I remember when ESPN would show high school sports and
demolition derbys. It has evolved to a point where it is now in cahoots with
the big networks. Perhaps GC will improve somewhat this next year and the
year after.
What in hell was that movie they (Golf Channel) were showing a few nights
ago with a babe coming out of the ocean and shooting a kids beach ball with
a spear gun and then going into her house and trying to stuff her cat into
the refrigerator? My girlfriend showed up and that was all I saw. Bizarre.
Mike
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 14:31:53
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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While I believe in Sturgeon's Law - which indicates that today with 50
times as much TV as when I was young, there should be 50 times as much
non-crud - for some reason I just don't have the desire to watch TV as
much. I used to know all the shows, now I only know about sporting
events that interest me. I had my TV on last Sunday to watch the
Broncos.
My ratio of time spent at the golf course to that spent in front of TV
is pretty high.
I'm not sure why I lost most of my interest in TV, but it was before
the golf channel existed.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 12:17:12
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:ha6on2d2bnirnphvnhodc3os8pqij9j8l6@4ax.com...
> While I believe in Sturgeon's Law - which indicates that today with 50
> times as much TV as when I was young, there should be 50 times as much
> non-crud - for some reason I just don't have the desire to watch TV as
> much. I used to know all the shows, now I only know about sporting
> events that interest me. I had my TV on last Sunday to watch the
> Broncos.
>
> My ratio of time spent at the golf course to that spent in front of TV
> is pretty high.
>
> I'm not sure why I lost most of my interest in TV, but it was before
> the golf channel existed.
I've been much more excited by what is on the National Geographic
productions, whichever channel they get on. And science. WONDERful stuff.
Truly beyond imagination: savants, astronomical discoveries, -- unlimited
new horizons.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 08:43:13
From: sfb
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Let's get back to the good old days when TGC showed replays of the third
round of the 1972 Masters.
"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:457B7EEB.53A516B3@att.net...
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 04:19:52
From:
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Robert Hamilton wrote:
> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
I gave up on US TV long ago.
I now live in Indonesia. Football (soccer) is broadcast with no
commercials whatsoever.
There was an American pro wrestling show that was causing young
children to beat each other up. The parents got together and got the
show off of TV.
It is all incredibly unAmerican.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 03:55:21
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> news:457B7EEB.53A516B3@att.net...
>
> Do you ever get an opportunity to PLAY golf instead of listen to the
> dribble? If I had an easier time to do so I don't believe I'd watch ANY of
> it, least of all the TW drivel, except to see the playoff of a major.
>
Have you ever met Rob (either figuratively, or on RSG?) that man plays
way more golf than 5 or 6 of us put together. Now, as to the Golf
Channel. I used to be glued to it also, but it's become less of an
addiction to me. However, with the coming golf season and the fact
that they will be airing many of the early rounds, I'll be watching a
bit more.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 02:44:19
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
>old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
>These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
>show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
>What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
>worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
>OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
>"resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
>About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 05:54:03
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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David Laville wrote:
>
> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>
>
I loved watching those old tournaments!
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:25:53
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
>
>
> David Laville wrote:
>
>>
>> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>>
>>
>
> I loved watching those old tournaments!
>
>
Do you mute them?
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 18:47:40
From: dsc
Subject: Re: Iraq vs. US
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JJK wrote:
> JJK wrote:
> > > I hope you're not implying Iraq is a safer place to be. If so, why don't
> you
> > > sign up for a great vacation, courtesy of the US Army?
>
> dsc wrote:
> > The amazing thing is nobody is jumping up and down trying to stop the
> > killing here...
> > Not Alec Baldwin, not The Dickie Chickies, not Streisand, not anyone
> > in here. :)
>
>
> I thought the police have interest in deterring crime.
Where'd you ever get that idea? :) I don't think there are enough
police to properly deal with gangs. They should have been nipped in the
bud years ago. They are too far out of hand now. I also don't think
American people will ever allow anyone to properly deal with gangs. It
might look a lot like Iraq for a while. Yea, I think it would be a war.
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 11:51:29
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Robert Hamilton wrote:
> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish!
What? You don't like lines like:
"I hit a really good putt, but it came up 12 feet short."
or
"I've played in 3 US Opens, but that last immunity challenge was the
most pressure I've ever faced."
or
"Gee, I thought my first shot over the wall was tough, and then they
even made it higher!"
or my personal fav,
"Bogey is just not an option for me."
The worst part of the show to me is when they go to commercial and have
to "preview" the next segment by showing you some stupid commentary.
Then they come back and do more stupid commentary. I just TIVO the
thing and watch it later. By the time I zip thru the commercials and
all the talking, I can watch the show in about 20 minutes.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:33:05
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
> >
> >
> > David Laville wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
> >
> >
>
> Do you mute them?
No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
watching the 1947 Masters.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"The_Professor" <dbid@att.net > wrote in message
news:1165854785.648438.313100@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> George Hibbard wrote:
>> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
>> >
>> >
>> > David Laville wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Do you mute them?
>
> No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
> don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
> watching the 1947 Masters.
It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
have to mute a ton....
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 02:58:51
From: David Laville
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09 -0500, "George Hibbard"
<gh@perfectimpact.com > wrote:
>It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
>to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
>have to mute a ton....
In my opinion the hype is worst today.
David Laville, G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
TB-8982
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 00:03:54
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word" or
"The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
and a half to two hours.
I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing where
the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people watch
for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for a
big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 11:57:18
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "The_Professor" <dbid@att.net> wrote in message
> news:1165854785.648438.313100@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > George Hibbard wrote:
> >> "Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:457CF076.F3454865@att.net...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > David Laville wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I rarely watch TGC. The only thing I care to watch are the Classics.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I loved watching those old tournaments!
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Do you mute them?
> >
> > No. Why would I? I don't watch the replays of recent events though. I
> > don't care about the 1997 Masters, for example... I care more about
> > watching the 1947 Masters.
>
>
> It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
> to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
> have to mute a ton....
Watched the Saints game last night. Al Micheals, who knows enough about
football to say things like "he dropped that" or "he handed it off" or
something like that. You gotta give it to him though...he knows all the
players names...as they were written on the backs of their jerseys!
Had the mute on, played my guitar.
...PS that Pink intro to NBC football has gotta be the most brutally
bad thing I have ever seen!
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 08:28:44
From:
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
for replay in the evenings...
On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word" or
> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
> and a half to two hours.
>
> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>
> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>
> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing where
> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>
> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people watch
> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for a
> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>
> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 13:30:46
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution to
society.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
> few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
> most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
> Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
> applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
> and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
> to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
> always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
> for replay in the evenings...
>
>
> On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
>> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word"
>> or
>> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
>> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
>> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
>> and a half to two hours.
>>
>> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>>
>> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
>> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>>
>> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
>> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
>> where
>> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>>
>> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
>> watch
>> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
>> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for
>> a
>> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
>> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>>
>> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
>> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
>
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 13:20:08
From: greers
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Ranks right there with home shopping network for useful or entertaining
content. I'll watch the Mon pm instructional shows, but that's it.
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:25:31
From: Michael Anselmo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"greers" <greers@scfworld.com > wrote in message
news:1165958408.196970.28000@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Ranks right there with home shopping network for useful or entertaining
> content. I'll watch the Mon pm instructional shows, but that's it.
>
Hey! Don't knock the Home Shopping Network. I like it because it has no
commercials. ;-)
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 00:45:12
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote ...
>I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
> These days, I *HATE* BB and any manifestations of it. What an idiot
> show. Some guy makes a single shot and talks about it for 5 minutes.
> What rubbish! One stupid infomercial after another for a bunch or
> worthless trash products... and commentary informed by
> OEMS...essentially shills for the OEMs....not to mention overpriced
> "resorts" they hustle with some of their "programming"..
>
> About the only thing I watch on it now is some of the Euro Tour stuff.
> Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
I hardly ever watch it anymore.
Randy
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 11:59:00
From:
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
sort of adult beverage advertisements.
AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
> present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution to
> society.
>
> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> >I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
> > few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
> > most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
> > Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
> > applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
> > and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
> > to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
> > always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
> > for replay in the evenings...
> >
> >
> > On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> > wrote:
> >> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
> >> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly Word"
> >> or
> >> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
> >> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the next
> >> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an hour
> >> and a half to two hours.
> >>
> >> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
> >>
> >> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the canned
> >> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
> >>
> >> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players play a
> >> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
> >> where
> >> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
> >>
> >> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
> >> watch
> >> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to see
> >> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments for
> >> a
> >> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in a
> >> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
> >>
> >> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
> >> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
> >
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 16:09:55
From: sfb
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
they do the Grey Goose show.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 19:18:08
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Do journalists work for free?
sfb wrote:
> Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
> There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
> they do the Grey Goose show.
>
> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
>> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>>
>
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:54:54
From: sfb
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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When was the last time you saw an NFL game announcer doing the game sitting
in a sponsor's automobile?
"Bert Robbins" <screw@you.com > wrote in message
news:hfednROlI_HfBR3YnZ2dnUVZ_o7inZ2d@comcast.com...
> Do journalists work for free?
>
> sfb wrote:
>> Advertisements are one thing, but TGC winds the booze into the content.
>> There's no journalistic need to have a bottle of Vodka on the table when
>> they do the Grey Goose show.
>>
>> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>>> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
>>> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>>>
>>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:52:16
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
our goals to promote family life and support kids.
<cmsturg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166039940.191625.79900@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Kind of difficult to pick any sports coverage that doesn't have some
> sort of adult beverage advertisements.
>
>
> AKA gray asphalt wrote:
>> You reminded me of another 'great' thing about TGC ... there choice to
>> present the golfing kids with alcohol advertisements. A real contribution
>> to
>> society.
>>
>> <cmsturg@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1165940924.899432.252190@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
>> >I really enjoy TGC. BB used to be my favorite show; however the last
>> > few incarnations have not really excited me too much. (In fact I missed
>> > most of this last season). I wish they would show more of the Bobby
>> > Jones Golf Instruction "movies". Those are very interesting and still
>> > applicable today. Other shows I don't turn off, Grey Goose 19th hole
>> > and Golf Central. I am really looking forward to next year. Being able
>> > to see 1 and 2 round coverage in the evenings is going to be great. I
>> > always wondered why TGC didn't license the 1 & 2 round coverage's
>> > for replay in the evenings...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Dec 12, 3:03 am, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> First they had Tiger night, then they stopped it. Then they had "the
>> >> troubleshooters" which they stopped or changed. They had "The Daly
>> >> Word"
>> >> or
>> >> "The World according to John Daly" whatever, which I liked but it got
>> >> canceled, I guess. You never what's going to be on the schedule the
>> >> next
>> >> month. The one sure thing is that the commercial blocks went from an
>> >> hour
>> >> and a half to two hours.
>> >>
>> >> I like Big Break, even with Donald Trump and his fake ego.
>> >>
>> >> The Golf Channel theme song drives me crazy... can't they take the
>> >> canned
>> >> midi music and at least add an instrument or change one?
>> >>
>> >> My biggest gripe is that they are too _________ to let the players
>> >> play a
>> >> practice round on the BB course. A lot of the time they are guessing
>> >> where
>> >> the hazzards off the tee are. What kind of contest is that?
>> >>
>> >> Why play "Golf Central" four times in a row? Don't they think people
>> >> watch
>> >> for more than a half an hour at a time in the wee hours? It's nice to
>> >> see
>> >> LPGA events, though. And if they could promote some local tournaments
>> >> for
>> >> a
>> >> big deal national tournament for us wannabee seniors ... for a spot in
>> >> a
>> >> Champions Tournament it would add a lot on interest.
>> >>
>> >> At least they don't mention "Ipod" every 5 minutes, like every other
>> >> channel. I guess they can't get the product placement money.
>> >
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:57:40
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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AKA gray asphalt wrote:
> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
I guess they are just too effective The thought that if you drink Grey
Goose, you can be just like Deumig is just too appealing to consumers!
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 00:22:57
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 9, 9:37 pm, Robert Hamilton <D...@att.net > wrote:
> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
and Jerry Jones.
The BB shows I find pathetic. Mediocre golf at best. Double-bogey
wins the hole? And these people think they can play pro golf?
Still, I do find myself watching TGC every once in a while. But
not nearly as much as before.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 08:53:58
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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I like BB because you get to know the players a little bit.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Dec 9, 9:37 pm, Robert Hamilton <D...@att.net> wrote:
>> I used to more or less keep the TV tuned to the thing. I liked all the
>> old golf tournamemts and I really liked the commentary of Peter Kessler.
>
> I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> and Jerry Jones.
>
> The BB shows I find pathetic. Mediocre golf at best. Double-bogey
> wins the hole? And these people think they can play pro golf?
>
> Still, I do find myself watching TGC every once in a while. But
> not nearly as much as before.
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 19:08:54
From: Steve S
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
> I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> and Jerry Jones.
>
Looks like Jimmie made out just fine.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 22:54:12
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
<goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com > wrote:
> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports in
> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
that.
I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
other
sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 11:10:28
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
> <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
>> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
>> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports
>> in
>> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
> Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
> that.
> I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
> other
> sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 22:48:40
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Dec 14, 6:08 pm, "Steve S" <n...@fughettaboutit.com > wrote:
> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166084577.796161.197520@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I miss Peter Kessler, but there's a valuable life lesson on how
> > NOT to manage your boss. Along the same lines as Jimmy Johnson
> > and Jerry Jones.Looks like Jimmie made out just fine.
He did OK, but he could have done much better.
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 09:36:33
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Obviously, I've never played with you.
I never said I drink while playing, BTW, although I have had
a beer from time to time. But drinking and golf go back to
the very roots. Those Scotch shepards always had a flask
along with them. For you to say that golf is somehow "better" than
other sports when it comes to alcohol is simply ludicrous.
So go enjoy, yourself.
On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com >
wrote:
> We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
>
> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
> > <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
> >> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get away
> >> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least the
> >> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most sports
> >> in
> >> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>
> > Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
> > that.
> > I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
> > other
> > sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 17:49:26
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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Enjoy too.
"Birdie Bill" <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166290592.998364.28730@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> Obviously, I've never played with you.
>
> I never said I drink while playing, BTW, although I have had
> a beer from time to time. But drinking and golf go back to
> the very roots. Those Scotch shepards always had a flask
> along with them. For you to say that golf is somehow "better" than
> other sports when it comes to alcohol is simply ludicrous.
>
> So go enjoy, yourself.
>
> On Dec 15, 1:10 pm, "AKA gray asphalt" <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com>
> wrote:
>> We're in a different foursome. Enjoy.
>>
>> "Birdie Bill" <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1166165652.679124.227090@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Dec 14, 10:52 am, "AKA gray asphalt"
>> > <goodidea1...@hotmail.spam.com> wrote:
>> >> Non beer alcohol ads were banned from TV but the cable channels get
>> >> away
>> >> with it. TGC was the first to start advertising hard liquor, at least
>> >> the
>> >> first I saw. Anyway, I thought golf was supposed to be above most
>> >> sports
>> >> in
>> >> our goals to promote family life and support kids.
>>
>> > Huh? Is that in the rules of golf? I don't know where you are getting
>> > that.
>> > I've seen a lot more drinking on the golf course than just about any
>> > other
>> > sport, with the possible exceptions of bowling and slow pitch.- Hide
>> > quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 05:27:35
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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David Laville wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:27:09 -0500, "George Hibbard"
> <gh@perfectimpact.com> wrote:
>
> >It's hard to listen to someone say "that's a nice shot" all the time... or
> >to stomach the hype often attached. SOME of the commentary is GREAT. I
> >have to mute a ton....
>
> In my opinion the hype is worst today.
>
>
> David Laville, G.S.E.M.
Waaay worse today. Most of the commentators (esp. Clampett) can tell
you what kind of corn had for lunch since he's got his head so far up
Tiger's backside that it's in his colon!
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 20:01:12
From: multi
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 05:23:50
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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multi wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
> wrote:
> >Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
> >too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
> >though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
Ain't that the truth! I still remember them cutting away to watch the ocean
where JFK Jr.s plane crashed into. Gripping TV!
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Date: 17 Dec 2006 08:28:41
From: multi
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:23:50 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net >
wrote:
>
>
>multi wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
>> wrote:
>> >Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>> >too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>> >though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>>
>> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
>> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
>> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
>
>Ain't that the truth! I still remember them cutting away to watch the ocean
>where JFK Jr.s plane crashed into. Gripping TV!
Yup, my favorite. 3 days of, "Still haven't found him."
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Date: 16 Dec 2006 23:44:31
From: AKA gray asphalt
Subject: Re: *CAN* anyone watch TGC anymore?
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"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
news:h3g9o2djgsmjv24fmjggjcm0l7mhaqehmj@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:37:18 GMT, Robert Hamilton <DBID@att.net>
> wrote:
>>Maybe some of the PGA Tour stuff will be OK, but I suspect it will have
>>too many commercials per unit time to make it watchable. We'll see
>>though. Commentary can't be any worse than ABC/ESPN!
>
> At least with TGC, the golf coverage won't start late because the last
> five minutes of a B-ball game takes half an hour, and it won't be
> pre-empted for "breaking news" about a runaway bride or the like.
You've got a point there.
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