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Date: 21 Aug 2006 04:48:52
From: annika1980
Subject: "Any Questions?"

When Tiger turned professional we had a pro at our club who was a
Tiger-basher before Tiger-bashing was cool. The Oldest Member and I
would often discuss Tiger's awesome amateur accomplishments and would
give the pro a list of rreasons why Tiger would soon dominate the tour.
I remember ragging on the pro during Tiger's first event at Milwaukee.
The pro said that Tiger would never get his tour card in just a few
events. Then Tiger picked up two wins later that year and the pro
claimed that Tiger could only win on resort courses, not tight setups
like those at the US Open or the PGA. "He's gonna have to show me
something!" our pro would say.

The Monday after the Tiger's 12-shot win in the 1997 Masters, our pro
was in the clubhouse as The Oldest Member walked by and quietly asked,
"Any questions?'

Later that year at the US Open, I remember Tiger teeing off on the
first hole, a dogleg left. He took the ball high up over the trees at
the corner and it came to rest in the fairway about 310 yards out. Ken
Venturi remarked, "Any questions?"

I think a Sports Illustrated cover later had the same words.

By now, I think all questions should have been answered.

Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:16:46
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

> Now
> that he has figured out that he can win majors just by playing
> steady golf with no need for spectacular shots, he has elevated
> his game yet another notch.

Memo to Phil Mickelson....

Date: 21 Aug 2006 16:14:16
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:

: By now, I think all questions should have been answered.

Until this summer, I had some lingering doubts about the way he
managed his club selection and the golf course. No more. Now
that he has figured out that he can win majors just by playing
steady golf with no need for spectacular shots, he has elevated
his game yet another notch. Now, if he gets his driver fixed,
he can pummel you to death with his physical game; and, if he
doesn't, he can papercut you to death with his mental game.

He truly has learned to get out of his own way now. Scary.

I'd still like to see somebody better than Bob May give him
a memorable challenge, just because it would be good for the
game and fun to watch him respond. But of course that's not
up to Tiger to do.

--
Chris Bellomy
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Date: 21 Aug 2006 12:41:30
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:14:16 GMT, Chris Bellomy
<puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:

>annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
>: By now, I think all questions should have been answered.
>
>Until this summer, I had some lingering doubts about the way he
>managed his club selection and the golf course. No more. Now
>that he has figured out that he can win majors just by playing
>steady golf with no need for spectacular shots, he has elevated
>his game yet another notch. Now, if he gets his driver fixed,
>he can pummel you to death with his physical game; and, if he
>doesn't, he can papercut you to death with his mental game.
>
>He truly has learned to get out of his own way now. Scary.
>
I've always been a fan of TW's, but the last three tournaments have
elevated that. He's 60 under for them, and that includes two majors.
Now I just don't see that there has ever been a golfer of his caliber.
>I'd still like to see somebody better than Bob May give him
>a memorable challenge, just because it would be good for the
>game and fun to watch him respond. But of course that's not
>up to Tiger to do.
There are several that make good moves at him, but only one, or maybe
two days. No one matches his consistency over 72 holes.
___,
\o

Date: 22 Aug 2006 00:27:34
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:41:30 -0500, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>I've always been a fan of TW's, but the last three tournaments have
>elevated that. He's 60 under for them, and that includes two majors.
>Now I just don't see that there has ever been a golfer of his caliber.

It was fun to watch him play. Now it's fun to watch him think as
well.

Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:27:27
From: long&left
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

Chris Bellomy wrote:
> annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> : By now, I think all questions should have been answered.
>
> Until this summer, I had some lingering doubts about the way he
> managed his club selection and the golf course. No more. Now
> that he has figured out that he can win majors just by playing
> steady golf with no need for spectacular shots, he has elevated
> his game yet another notch. Now, if he gets his driver fixed,
> he can pummel you to death with his physical game; and, if he
> doesn't, he can papercut you to death with his mental game.
>
> He truly has learned to get out of his own way now. Scary.
>
> I'd still like to see somebody better than Bob May give him
> a memorable challenge, just because it would be good for the
> game and fun to watch him respond. But of course that's not
> up to Tiger to do.
>

I loved the question one reporter asked in his post round interview
yesterday...something on the order of: "do you ever feel sorry for the
other players out there?"

Tigers response: "No" with wry smile

he's got the killer instinct and now his game is back to match

Date: 21 Aug 2006 09:42:08
From: multi
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:27:27 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com >
wrote:
>I loved the question one reporter asked in his post round interview
>yesterday...something on the order of: "do you ever feel sorry for the
>other players out there?"
>
>Tigers response: "No" with wry smile
>
>he's got the killer instinct and now his game is back to match

My impression was that he was being nice to the reporter, and didn't
bother to tell him what an asinine question it was, and how insulting
to the other players.

Date: 21 Aug 2006 10:15:35
From: long&left
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

multi wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 09:27:27 -0700, long&left <nospam@diespammers.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I loved the question one reporter asked in his post round interview
>>yesterday...something on the order of: "do you ever feel sorry for the
>>other players out there?"
>>
>>Tigers response: "No" with wry smile
>>
>>he's got the killer instinct and now his game is back to match
>
>
> My impression was that he was being nice to the reporter, and didn't
> bother to tell him what an asinine question it was, and how insulting
> to the other players.
>

I didn't get that impression with this reporter. He did have a little
problem with the reporter from China though that was harrassing him for
not signing children's autographs. Now his questions were asinine IMO

Date: 21 Aug 2006 18:15:35
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:2T3dfamkI1u1N34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> : By now, I think all questions should have been answered.
>
> Until this summer, I had some lingering doubts about the way he
> managed his club selection and the golf course. No more. Now
> that he has figured out that he can win majors just by playing
> steady golf with no need for spectacular shots, he has elevated
> his game yet another notch.

Don't know about that. Sometimes spectaculare shots are what he might need
to add to his arsenal (See the thread "Tiger's not a choker, but...")

Date: 21 Aug 2006 06:24:21
From: Tex
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

zumafan wrote:
> dsc wrote:
> > > By now, I think all questions should have been answered.
> >
> > All but one...
> >
> > Is Nats the most drop dead gorgeous lady to ever play the LPGA?
>
> To ever play? I guess I'm showing my age here, but find some 70's era
> pix of Jan Stephenson and Cindy Rarick. Nats is hot though...

And lets not forget Laura Baugh...

Tex

Date: 21 Aug 2006 06:04:47
From: zumafan
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

Date: 21 Aug 2006 06:00:22
From: zumafan
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

dsc wrote:
> > By now, I think all questions should have been answered.
>
> All but one...
>
> Is Nats the most drop dead gorgeous lady to ever play the LPGA?

To ever play? I guess I'm showing my age here, but find some 70's era
pix of Jan Stephenson and Cindy Rarick. Nats is hot though...

Date: 21 Aug 2006 05:02:05
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

> By now, I think all questions should have been answered.

All but one...

Is Nats the most drop dead gorgeous lady to ever play the LPGA?

Date: 21 Aug 2006 12:05:28
From: ruud
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On 21 Aug 2006 04:48:52 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:

>By now, I think all questions should have been answered.

If all the questions had been answered he wouldn't be worth watching.
I think he's got some more answers in him yet.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 00:24:46
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:05:28 GMT, ruud <no_email@hotmail.scum > wrote:

>If all the questions had been answered he wouldn't be worth watching.
>I think he's got some more answers in him yet.

I think he gets the ratings from people who aren't interested in
answers - they are just interested in watching.

Date: 21 Aug 2006 18:01:31
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

> I loved the question one reporter asked in his post round interview
> yesterday...something on the order of: "do you ever feel sorry for the
> other players out there?"
>
> Tigers response: "No" with wry smile
>
> he's got the killer instinct and now his game is back to match

That was my point in another thread although you said it better...

Tiger has the killer instinct... name one other player playing to day
that does? The only real example I can think of is Monty in match play.
Jack had it, Trevino had it, Palmer had it, Waton had it and many
others back then had it.

Though I didn't really get into golf or follow it until Jack was past
his prime, I suspect that skill wise Tiger is more complete. But Jack
can match him step for step with his will to win and his killer
instinct. Jack and Tiger both hit shots that really noone else of their
time can hit. Jack and Tiger both have done things that noone else
(besides the two of them) can do. Remember too that Jack basically
figured it all out... he led the way. Tiger followed Jack's road map.
It would be great to be able to see these two go head to head in their
primes playing the same equipment. I feel like they would match up very
well... both very long, both very good putters, etc. The outcome is too
close to call. I suspect if they played enough times the outcome could
be fairly well equal... but not exactly.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 02:16:11
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On 21 Aug 2006 18:01:31 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote:

>Tiger has the killer instinct... name one other player playing to day
>that does? The only real example I can think of is Monty in match play.
>Jack had it, Trevino had it, Palmer had it, Waton had it and many
>others back then had it.

How do we determine the answer to this question?

Date: 22 Aug 2006 19:03:24
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

annika1980 wrote:
> dsc wrote:
> > >
> > > How do we determine the answer to this question?
> >
> > It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
> > instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...
>
> DiMarco. Monty. Sergio. Corey Pavin. Vijay. Me.
>
> I think all of these guys (and many more) want to win as much as Tiger.

Desire to win is not the same thing as killer instinct.

I sure most of them want to win... some badly.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 16:43:40
From:
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

rowdy rod wrote:
> In article <1156277577.036030.301150@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > dsc wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How do we determine the answer to this question?
> > >
> > > It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
> > > instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...
> >
> > DiMarco. Monty. Sergio. Corey Pavin. Vijay. Me.
> >
> > I think all of these guys (and many more) want to win as much as Tiger.
> > Not everybody has the talent to go with it, however. And some guys
> > with lots of talent (Daly, Freddie, DLIII, Els, etc.) just don't seem
> > to have the drive to do great things. Imagine John Daly with Tiger's
> > work ethic. Or think how dominant Mike Tyson would have been if he was
> > single-mindedly focused on being the greatest boxer ever, instead of
> > worrying about buying big cars and partying all the time.
> >
>
> I would substitute Furyk for Sergio. Loved the local announcer in
> Chicago who lambasted Sergio for his attire in the final pairing at the
> Open Championship. Dressing like a banana certainly isn't the way to
> intimidate Tiger Woods in the final round of a major.

He wears yellow pants so it doesnt show when he pisses himself.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:12:57
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

dsc wrote:
> >
> > How do we determine the answer to this question?
>
> It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
> instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...

DiMarco. Monty. Sergio. Corey Pavin. Vijay. Me.

I think all of these guys (and many more) want to win as much as Tiger.
Not everybody has the talent to go with it, however. And some guys
with lots of talent (Daly, Freddie, DLIII, Els, etc.) just don't seem
to have the drive to do great things. Imagine John Daly with Tiger's
work ethic. Or think how dominant Mike Tyson would have been if he was
single-mindedly focused on being the greatest boxer ever, instead of
worrying about buying big cars and partying all the time.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 23:19:59
From: rowdy rod
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

In article <1156277577.036030.301150@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:

> dsc wrote:
> > >
> > > How do we determine the answer to this question?
> >
> > It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
> > instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...
>
> DiMarco. Monty. Sergio. Corey Pavin. Vijay. Me.
>
> I think all of these guys (and many more) want to win as much as Tiger.
> Not everybody has the talent to go with it, however. And some guys
> with lots of talent (Daly, Freddie, DLIII, Els, etc.) just don't seem
> to have the drive to do great things. Imagine John Daly with Tiger's
> work ethic. Or think how dominant Mike Tyson would have been if he was
> single-mindedly focused on being the greatest boxer ever, instead of
> worrying about buying big cars and partying all the time.
>

I would substitute Furyk for Sergio. Loved the local announcer in
Chicago who lambasted Sergio for his attire in the final pairing at the
Open Championship. Dressing like a banana certainly isn't the way to
intimidate Tiger Woods in the final round of a major.

Date: 22 Aug 2006 13:02:05
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

Howard Brazee wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2006 18:01:31 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:
>
> >Tiger has the killer instinct... name one other player playing to day
> >that does? The only real example I can think of is Monty in match play.
> >Jack had it, Trevino had it, Palmer had it, Waton had it and many
> >others back then had it.
>
> How do we determine the answer to this question?

It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...

Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:12:09
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

On 22 Aug 2006 13:02:05 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu > wrote:

>> >Tiger has the killer instinct... name one other player playing to day
>> >that does? The only real example I can think of is Monty in match play.
>> >Jack had it, Trevino had it, Palmer had it, Waton had it and many
>> >others back then had it.
>>
>> How do we determine the answer to this question?
>
>It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
>instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...

I don't know how much of a killer instinct those guys had.

Do you measure killer instinct on how many times a player comes in
2nd?

How about how deep their competition was?

What do we look for to get a feel on how much killer instinct they had
compared to how much the new guys have?

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Date: 23 Aug 2006 08:18:00
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

Howard Brazee wrote:
> Do you measure killer instinct on how many times a player comes in
> 2nd?
>
> How about how deep their competition was?
>
> What do we look for to get a feel on how much killer instinct they had
> compared to how much the new guys have?
>

One way to measure it is margin of victory. I'll give Lanny Wadkins
credit or one thing. When he led by 6 shots he wasn't coasting in. He
was trying to win by 8. And being the golf historian he is I am sure
that Tiger is familiar with what Sam Snead said on the subject:
"Never let up. The more you can win by, the more doubts you put in the
other players' minds the next time out."

Intimidation is a big part of the Tiger Mystique as well. When you get
on the tee with him he says, "Good luck" and that's it. You don't even
exist to him. Those guys must feel like a fly trying to stop a charging
elephant. I think a player like Trevino, a real Chatty Cathy type,
might put Tiger off his stroke. Like the Merry Mex said when a fellow
competitor told him that he wasn't out there to chit-chat, "You don't
have to talk. You just listen, I'll do all the talkin."

Date: 23 Aug 2006 11:44:05
From: Otto
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

It's a good idea.

One of these guys paired up with him should mouth wedge Tiger all round
long.

Otto

"annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1156346280.164980.246420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Intimidation is a big part of the Tiger Mystique as well. When you get
> on the tee with him he says, "Good luck" and that's it. You don't even
> exist to him. Those guys must feel like a fly trying to stop a charging
> elephant. I think a player like Trevino, a real Chatty Cathy type,
> might put Tiger off his stroke. Like the Merry Mex said when a fellow
> competitor told him that he wasn't out there to chit-chat, "You don't
> have to talk. You just listen, I'll do all the talkin."
>

Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:18:04
From: dsc
Subject: Re: "Any Questions?"

Howard Brazee wrote:
> On 22 Aug 2006 13:02:05 -0700, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman@eku.edu> wrote:
>
> >> >Tiger has the killer instinct... name one other player playing to day
> >> >that does? The only real example I can think of is Monty in match play.
> >> >Jack had it, Trevino had it, Palmer had it, Waton had it and many
> >> >others back then had it.
> >>
> >> How do we determine the answer to this question?
> >
> >It's all opinion. Name one current player that "you" think has a killer
> >instinct similar to Tiger, Jack, Trevio, Palmer or Watson...
>
> I don't know how much of a killer instinct those guys had.

If they didn't have it... it probably doesn't exist... :)

>
> Do you measure killer instinct on how many times a player comes in
> 2nd?

I don't think so... it's more about not backing up on Sunday. Getting
your competition down and then finishing them off. You can't easily
measure it, it's not easy to define, but most people know it when they
see it happening.

>
> How about how deep their competition was?
>
> What do we look for to get a feel on how much killer instinct they had
> compared to how much the new guys have?

The new guys don't appear to have much if any... and that's the problem
wrt not providing Tiger any competition.