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Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:48:04
From: larry
Subject: You are LATE
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I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
http://www.mytpi.com
I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
around a golf course.
One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
miracles.
The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
perfect very shortly.
Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 23:44:10
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 10:10 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
>
> > > *I* live for this stuff?
>
> > "Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
>
> LOL
>
> This from the guy who just told me how he was off to his Easter vacation
> so wouldn't be posting again!
I changed my mind. I got a new laptop for my wife. The trip might
afford me some time to dial it in for her.
>
> > > LOL
>
> > > *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
> > > enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
>
> > "Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
> > in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
> > Disorder.
>
> You saw "google", where, precisely. Could it be in your imagination?
Goes to show you that I barely scanned your post. I'm not going to
get into a he said/she said blather battle with you. Save that for
your Larry fetish
> And strange: in your previous post you said you'd read half of my post.
> Now, it's "no idea". It's awfully hard to keep it all straight if you
> lie all the time, isn't it?
More blather bait. Yawn....
> > > For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
> > > world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
> > > I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
> > > Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
> > > a week in the winter months).
>
> > Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
> > your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
> > boy....who pays for this?
>
> Just little old me!
Little is right!
> > > > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> > > > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> > > > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
>
> > > Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
>
> > So chickens do live in Canada.
>
> I would imagine so. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm not
> interested in playing golf with you?
What it means is that when words evolve into something tangible, like
a golf match, you're all feathers.
> > > > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > > > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
>
> > > Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
> > > find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
> > > only because I wanted the space back for other files.
>
> > Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
> > basement back?
>
> Wow. How long did it take you to think up that devastating witticism?
> LOL
8.42 seconds. I can blather too if sufficiently bored,
> > > But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
>
> > Post it again, brave guy.
>
> Is that as nicely as you can ask? Yeah... ...it probably is.
>
> OK.
>
> <http://www3.telus.net/bakermedia/Alan_3-wood.mov>
LOL. Nice hair.
Actually you have a pretty decent swing, which makes me wonder why
you're too chicken to play me for a possible 1k payout.
But that would require substance instead of words, huh?
> Not a practice swing, but the real thing. About 220 up a hill on a wet
> day. I pulled it a little.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> Now let's see yours...
Google me up, Foghorn. Clary put it on his site.
> > > > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
> > > > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> > > > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
>
> > > Ah. The mature response, as always.
>
> > Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay you
> > $1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
>
> Nope. Sorry. Not interested.
You have feathers in your pillow?
> > > > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
>
> > > Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
>
> > It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
> > you....slow, boring.....
>
> Yeah...
>
> I can see why sailing wouldn't be something you're interested in. It
> takes skill.
So does manuevering a yacht, wannabe.
> Any idiot can open a throttle so I'm certain that it's within your
> capacities.
Ah, the mature response, as always.
> > > > Doubt if I will.
>
> > > I have no doubt that you think you're surrounded by assholes.
>
> > Nope....just you, but you're far enough away, aren't you brave guy?
>
> I'm not the one snipping, Greg. That's alllllll you!
I pick and choose the blather. Your NG rules don't interest me,
blather-butt
> Now: are you going to go on vacation for real this time?
Sure....you're part of it. It's amusing playing with you. You remind
me of Seinfeld. All about nothing, but funny at times.
> LOL
LOL. LOL. LOL.
(hey....I can write it backwards too!)
LOL LOL LOL
-Greg
Ps. I miss Francis
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 06:55:05
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <1175237050.238135.156150@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 10:10 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > *I* live for this stuff?
> >
> > > "Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > This from the guy who just told me how he was off to his Easter vacation
> > so wouldn't be posting again!
>
> I changed my mind. I got a new laptop for my wife. The trip might
> afford me some time to dial it in for her.
Riiiiiight.
>
> >
> > > > LOL
> >
> > > > *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
> > > > enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
> >
> > > "Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
> > > in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
> > > Disorder.
> >
> > You saw "google", where, precisely. Could it be in your imagination?
>
> Goes to show you that I barely scanned your post. I'm not going to
> get into a he said/she said blather battle with you. Save that for
> your Larry fetish
IOW, you've been caught in an out and out lie, and now you want to try
and obscure that fact.
>
> > And strange: in your previous post you said you'd read half of my post.
> > Now, it's "no idea". It's awfully hard to keep it all straight if you
> > lie all the time, isn't it?
>
> More blather bait. Yawn....
Simple facts, Greg.
>
> > > > For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
> > > > world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
> > > > I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
> > > > Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
> > > > a week in the winter months).
> >
> > > Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
> > > your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
> > > boy....who pays for this?
> >
> > Just little old me!
>
> Little is right!
I never claimed to be anything special, Greg. I was just giving you the
simple facts.
>
>
> > > > > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> > > > > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> > > > > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
> >
> > > > Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
> >
> > > So chickens do live in Canada.
> >
> > I would imagine so. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm not
> > interested in playing golf with you?
>
> What it means is that when words evolve into something tangible, like
> a golf match, you're all feathers.
Nope.
You made an incorrect claim: that I would back down from Larry in the
offer of a golf match. You were wrong, but you were unable to accept
that fact.
The fact that I have no interest in playing golf with you is neither
here nor there.
>
> > > > > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > > > > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
> >
> > > > Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
> > > > find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
> > > > only because I wanted the space back for other files.
> >
> > > Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
> > > basement back?
> >
> > Wow. How long did it take you to think up that devastating witticism?
>
> > LOL
>
> 8.42 seconds. I can blather too if sufficiently bored,
You must spend your life very bored then.
>
> > > > But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
> >
> > > Post it again, brave guy.
> >
> > Is that as nicely as you can ask? Yeah... ...it probably is.
> >
> > OK.
> >
> > <http://www3.telus.net/bakermedia/Alan_3-wood.mov>
>
> LOL. Nice hair.
>
> Actually you have a pretty decent swing, which makes me wonder why
> you're too chicken to play me for a possible 1k payout.
>
> But that would require substance instead of words, huh?
I have nothing I need to prove on a golf course with you. I accepted
Larry's challenge because it amused me at the time. The simple fact is
that *he* is the one who reneged.
I'm getting all the amusement I require from you right here!
>
> > Not a practice swing, but the real thing. About 220 up a hill on a wet
> > day. I pulled it a little.
>
>
> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yeah. Little things like the difference between the range and the course
wouldn't mean anything to you.
>
>
> > Now let's see yours...
>
> Google me up, Foghorn. Clary put it on his site.
Nope. Not my responsibility to find your swing. Seems like you're all
blather, doesn't it? Or are you just not bright enough to find a post
referencing your own swing video?
>
> > > > > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
> > > > > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> > > > > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
> >
> > > > Ah. The mature response, as always.
> >
> > > Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay you
> > > $1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
> >
> > Nope. Sorry. Not interested.
>
> You have feathers in your pillow?
>
> > > > > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
> >
> > > > Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
> >
> > > It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
> > > you....slow, boring.....
> >
> > Yeah...
> >
> > I can see why sailing wouldn't be something you're interested in. It
> > takes skill.
>
> So does manuevering a yacht, wannabe.
LOL
Apparently you think sailboats maneuver themselves...
>
> > Any idiot can open a throttle so I'm certain that it's within your
> > capacities.
>
> Ah, the mature response, as always.
Far more than most of your bon mots.
>
> > > > > Doubt if I will.
> >
> > > > I have no doubt that you think you're surrounded by assholes.
> >
> > > Nope....just you, but you're far enough away, aren't you brave guy?
> >
> > I'm not the one snipping, Greg. That's alllllll you!
>
> I pick and choose the blather. Your NG rules don't interest me,
> blather-butt
>
> > Now: are you going to go on vacation for real this time?
>
> Sure....you're part of it. It's amusing playing with you. You remind
> me of Seinfeld. All about nothing, but funny at times.
As I suspected, it was bullshit from the word go.
>
> > LOL
>
> LOL. LOL. LOL.
>
> (hey....I can write it backwards too!)
>
> LOL LOL LOL
>
> -Greg
>
> Ps. I miss Francis
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 21:46:12
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 7:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1175223466.319979.82...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On 29, 5:50 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > I read about half of your response and started laughing while deleting
> > them. This is precisely how you lure people into these senseless NG
> > arguments. Hard to believe that you live for this stuff. You're
> > quite deluded. Ever go outside???
>
> *I* live for this stuff?
"Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
> LOL
> *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
> enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
"Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
Disorder.
> For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
> world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
> I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
> Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
> a week in the winter months).
>
Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
boy....who pays for this?
>
> > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
>
> Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
So chickens do live in Canada.
> > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
>
> Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
> find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
> only because I wanted the space back for other files.
Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
basement back?
> But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
Post it again, brave guy.
> > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
> > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
>
> Ah. The mature response, as always.
Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay you
$1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
> > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
>
> Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
you....slow, boring.....
>
> > Doubt if I will.
>
> I have no doubt that you think you're surrounded by assholes.
Nope....just you, but you're far enough away, aren't you brave guy?
-Greg
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 05:10:29
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <1175229972.133054.200550@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 7:12 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1175223466.319979.82...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On 29, 5:50 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I read about half of your response and started laughing while deleting
> > > them. This is precisely how you lure people into these senseless NG
> > > arguments. Hard to believe that you live for this stuff. You're
> > > quite deluded. Ever go outside???
> >
> > *I* live for this stuff?
>
> "Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
LOL
This from the guy who just told me how he was off to his Easter vacation
so wouldn't be posting again!
>
> > LOL
>
> > *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
> > enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
>
> "Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
> in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
> Disorder.
You saw "google", where, precisely. Could it be in your imagination?
And strange: in your previous post you said you'd read half of my post.
Now, it's "no idea". It's awfully hard to keep it all straight if you
lie all the time, isn't it?
>
> > For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
> > world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
> > I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
> > Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
> > a week in the winter months).
> >
>
> Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
> your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
> boy....who pays for this?
Just little old me!
>
> >
> > > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> > > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> > > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
> >
> > Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
>
> So chickens do live in Canada.
I would imagine so. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm not
interested in playing golf with you?
>
> > > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
> >
> > Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
> > find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
> > only because I wanted the space back for other files.
>
> Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
> basement back?
Wow. How long did it take you to think up that devastating witticism?
LOL
>
> > But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
>
> Post it again, brave guy.
Is that as nicely as you can ask? Yeah... ...it probably is.
OK.
<http://www3.telus.net/bakermedia/Alan_3-wood.mov >
Not a practice swing, but the real thing. About 220 up a hill on a wet
day. I pulled it a little.
Now let's see yours...
>
> > > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
> > > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> > > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
> >
> > Ah. The mature response, as always.
>
> Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay you
> $1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
Nope. Sorry. Not interested.
>
> > > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
> >
> > Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
>
> It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
> you....slow, boring.....
Yeah...
I can see why sailing wouldn't be something you're interested in. It
takes skill.
Any idiot can open a throttle so I'm certain that it's within your
capacities.
>
> >
> > > Doubt if I will.
> >
> > I have no doubt that you think you're surrounded by assholes.
>
> Nope....just you, but you're far enough away, aren't you brave guy?
I'm not the one snipping, Greg. That's alllllll you!
Now: are you going to go on vacation for real this time?
LOL
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 19:57:46
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 5:50 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
I read about half of your response and started laughing while deleting
them. This is precisely how you lure people into these senseless NG
arguments. Hard to believe that you live for this stuff. You're
quite deluded. Ever go outside???
I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
Doubt if I will.
-Greg
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 03:12:01
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <1175223466.319979.82980@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 5:50 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> I read about half of your response and started laughing while deleting
> them. This is precisely how you lure people into these senseless NG
> arguments. Hard to believe that you live for this stuff. You're
> quite deluded. Ever go outside???
*I* live for this stuff?
LOL
*You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
a week in the winter months).
>
> I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
> demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
only because I wanted the space back for other files.
But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
> you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry to
> Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
Ah. The mature response, as always.
>
> If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
>
> Doubt if I will.
I have no doubt that you think you're surrounded by assholes.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 17:25:53
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 4:00 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> Can't do something as simple as keep your word not to reply?
>
>
>
> > -Greg
Obviously I changed my mind. Tis a free country, NG nerd. Don't like
it....KF me.
-Greg
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 01:50:51
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <1175214353.298756.136420@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 4:00 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > Can't do something as simple as keep your word not to reply?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Greg
>
> Obviously I changed my mind. Tis a free country, NG nerd. Don't like
> it....KF me.
>
> -Greg
No, no, Greg. You said I was acting in a cowardly manner by posting a
reply to Larry about something you'd said and keeping you in a killfile
so that I wouldn't see your replies...
...except you were wrong. I'm keeping my word.
You, not so much. Of course it's a free country, but it doesn't change
the fact that whatever you want to call it, you couldn't do what you
said you were going to do, does it?
The only thing you appear to be able to do well is snip out the parts of
a post that you don't have will to face up to.
Parts like this:
> > > On 29, 3:25 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > The concept is simple...it's called a taste of your own medicine. You
> >
> > What "own medicine"? I didn't challenge anyone and renege.
Well, Greg?
> >
> > > and Larry are two peas in a pod....all bluster and blather. The fact
> > > you refuse to accept my challenge further demonstrates your track
> > > record as nothing but an argumentative NG nerd.
> > >
> > > I doubt if you can even break 100.
> >
> > There are people here who know different.
> >
> > BTW, if you're so brave -- no "bluster and blather", why'd you snip all
> > this:
Well, Greg?
Are you going to answer, or just show what a brave poster you are by
snipping it out again?
LOL
> >
> > > > I've never seen you swing a club.
> > > >
> > > > I was challenged by Larry, whose swing is terrible, and I took him up
> > > > on
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > He reneged.
> > > >
> > > > You don't interest me. Whether you can beat me at golf or not is of
> > > > sublime indifference to me.
> > > >
> > > > And didn't you say something about how you weren't going to reply
> > > > anymore?
> > > >
> > > > I guess you failed at that, too.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 16:50:43
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 3:25 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
The concept is simple...it's called a taste of your own medicine. You
and Larry are two peas in a pod....all bluster and blather. The fact
you refuse to accept my challenge further demonstrates your track
record as nothing but an argumentative NG nerd.
I doubt if you can even break 100.
-Greg
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 00:00:51
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1175212243.209590.71520@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 3:25 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> The concept is simple...it's called a taste of your own medicine. You
What "own medicine"? I didn't challenge anyone and renege.
> and Larry are two peas in a pod....all bluster and blather. The fact
> you refuse to accept my challenge further demonstrates your track
> record as nothing but an argumentative NG nerd.
>
> I doubt if you can even break 100.
There are people here who know different.
BTW, if you're so brave -- no "bluster and blather", why'd you snip all
this:
> > I've never seen you swing a club.
> >
> > I was challenged by Larry, whose swing is terrible, and I took him up on
> > it.
> >
> > He reneged.
> >
> > You don't interest me. Whether you can beat me at golf or not is of
> > sublime indifference to me.
> >
> > And didn't you say something about how you weren't going to reply
> > anymore?
> >
> > I guess you failed at that, too.
>
Well, Greg?
Can't do something as simple as keep your word not to reply?
>
> -Greg
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 15:29:08
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 29, 1:34 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> Nope.
>
> I wouldn't do any program you're doing because my swing is already
> better than yours.
>
> I'm working on getting more tension between my torso and my hands;
> stretching everything so that when I start the downswing, more of the
> speed of turning my hips gets to the club. That also relates to being
> more through with my hips at impact because there's a greater overall
> lag to my swing if I do it correctly.
>
> --
> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Hey NG nerd,
How about comparing my game to yours, one on one, for any amount of
money your momma can afford. I presented this challenge to you last
week and you responded a diversion about RSG-NW, which I ignored.
Nonetheless........... the challenge remains.
-Greg
Ps. Hi Francis
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 23:25:05
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <1175207348.798473.107030@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 1:34 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > Nope.
> >
> > I wouldn't do any program you're doing because my swing is already
> > better than yours.
> >
> > I'm working on getting more tension between my torso and my hands;
> > stretching everything so that when I start the downswing, more of the
> > speed of turning my hips gets to the club. That also relates to being
> > more through with my hips at impact because there's a greater overall
> > lag to my swing if I do it correctly.
> >
> > --
> > "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> > "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
> > the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Hey NG nerd,
>
> How about comparing my game to yours, one on one, for any amount of
> money your momma can afford. I presented this challenge to you last
> week and you responded a diversion about RSG-NW, which I ignored.
>
> Nonetheless........... the challenge remains.
I've never seen you swing a club.
I was challenged by Larry, whose swing is terrible, and I took him up on
it.
He reneged.
You don't interest me. Whether you can beat me at golf or not is of
sublime indifference to me.
And didn't you say something about how you weren't going to reply
anymore?
I guess you failed at that, too.
>
> -Greg
>
> Ps. Hi Francis
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 17:33:36
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 23, 11:57 am, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 22 2007 20:19:27 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
>
>
>
>
>
> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On 22, 8:58 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> On 22 2007 01:20:07 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
>
> >> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> >> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
> >> >I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
> >> >make it look so easy:
>
> >> I am sure every virtuoso piano player started by stumbling through
> >> "chopsticks." so what?
>
> >> The difference between the winners and the others in every endeavor is
> >> persistence. I got it. You should have it too.
>
> >> Larry
>
> >http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
>
> >But, if you notice, Ben is using a very different technique
> >than you do. How open are your hips at impact?
> >Compare to Ben.
>
> >I also checked out mytpi.com, and found out it wasn't quite the
> >hotbed of Larryism that you pretend. You should read what they
> >have to say about sway, slide, and loss of posture.
>
> Correct is correct. TPI simply teaches what SLAP and virturally every
> reputable pro does. There is no debate about the SINGLE best way for
> a human to swing a golf club. Simply watch the Nationwide tour and
> see 100 young guys doing it identically--.
The Tour pros have their hips 30 to 60 degrees open at impact. The
average is about 40 degrees. You are about 10 at most.
If you watch what Ben is doing in these swings, he is beginning the
downswing by rapidly turning his hips - just like he said he does in
Five Lessons. And yet - he doesn't spin out. He is not "doomed"
to hitting it sideways. Why is that? There is a reason. Let's see
if you know what it is before I tell you. Any guesses?
http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 07:17:02
From: Draco
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 10:15 am, "FredK" <fred.nos...@dec.com > wrote:
(snipped a lot)
> K (ook)
> I (n)
> N (ews)
> G (groups)
ROFL, After reading all that I couldn't work for a while because of
the laughter. I like the KING though. Can I use it in other groups??
Please, please...
Golf is the game for all. Because it makes everyone look foolish at
least once a round.
Draco
Getting even isn't good enough. Being better does.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:19:27
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 22, 8:58 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 22 2007 01:20:07 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
>
> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
> >I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
> >make it look so easy:
>
> I am sure every virtuoso piano player started by stumbling through
> "chopsticks." so what?
>
> The difference between the winners and the others in every endeavor is
> persistence. I got it. You should have it too.
>
> Larry
http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
But, if you notice, Ben is using a very different technique
than you do. How open are your hips at impact?
Compare to Ben.
I also checked out mytpi.com, and found out it wasn't quite the
hotbed of Larryism that you pretend. You should read what they
have to say about sway, slide, and loss of posture.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 09:57:04
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 22 2007 20:19:27 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
<bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote:
>On 22, 8:58 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>> On 22 2007 01:20:07 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
>>
>> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>> >> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>>
>> >I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
>> >make it look so easy:
>>
>> I am sure every virtuoso piano player started by stumbling through
>> "chopsticks." so what?
>>
>> The difference between the winners and the others in every endeavor is
>> persistence. I got it. You should have it too.
>>
>> Larry
>
>http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
>
>But, if you notice, Ben is using a very different technique
>than you do. How open are your hips at impact?
>Compare to Ben.
>
>I also checked out mytpi.com, and found out it wasn't quite the
>hotbed of Larryism that you pretend. You should read what they
>have to say about sway, slide, and loss of posture.
Correct is correct. TPI simply teaches what SLAP and virturally every
reputable pro does. There is no debate about the SINGLE best way for
a human to swing a golf club. Simply watch the Nationwide tour and
see 100 young guys doing it identically--.
Larry
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 16:11:00
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On Fri, 23 2007 09:57:04 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:
>
>Correct is correct. TPI simply teaches what SLAP and virturally every
>reputable pro does. There is no debate about the SINGLE best way for
>a human to swing a golf club. Simply watch the Nationwide tour and
>see 100 young guys doing it identically--.
>
So who has enrolled in TPI?
After only two weeks of intense exercises and stretching, today I
found on the range that I can initiate my downswing by swinging my
hips! I start my backswing by turning my hips back to "load" my back
leg and then swing them toward the target to start the downswing. No
lateral slide. Wow! Effortless distance!
Before doing these exercises, I was unable to really "isolate" the
muscles that activate my hips. Now I can swing them in differential
to my shoulders. I saw what Bobby Jones did, but I could only slide
my hips laterally-- I couldn't really turn myself "in a barrel" like
he did. Anyone else doing this program?
Larry
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 21:34:05
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1vsl03db97dbr79p9v3e53s6nd2as4f99r@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 23 2007 09:57:04 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Correct is correct. TPI simply teaches what SLAP and virturally every
> >reputable pro does. There is no debate about the SINGLE best way for
> >a human to swing a golf club. Simply watch the Nationwide tour and
> >see 100 young guys doing it identically--.
> >
> So who has enrolled in TPI?
>
> After only two weeks of intense exercises and stretching, today I
> found on the range that I can initiate my downswing by swinging my
> hips! I start my backswing by turning my hips back to "load" my back
> leg and then swing them toward the target to start the downswing. No
> lateral slide. Wow! Effortless distance!
Wow. Maybe making you're entire focus moving your weight to your front
foot was causing a slide (and a slice you said such a move would always
prevent)...
>
> Before doing these exercises, I was unable to really "isolate" the
> muscles that activate my hips. Now I can swing them in differential
> to my shoulders. I saw what Bobby Jones did, but I could only slide
> my hips laterally-- I couldn't really turn myself "in a barrel" like
> he did. Anyone else doing this program?
Nope.
I wouldn't do any program you're doing because my swing is already
better than yours.
I'm working on getting more tension between my torso and my hands;
stretching everything so that when I start the downswing, more of the
speed of turning my hips gets to the club. That also relates to being
more through with my hips at impact because there's a greater overall
lag to my swing if I do it correctly.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 29 Mar 2007 09:43:31
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:1vsl03db97dbr79p9v3e53s6nd2as4f99r@4ax.com...
>
> So who has enrolled in TPI?
>
> After only two weeks of intense exercises and stretching, today I
> found on the range that I can initiate my downswing by swinging my
> hips! I start my backswing by turning my hips back to "load" my back
> leg and then swing them toward the target to start the downswing. No
> lateral slide. Wow! Effortless distance!
>
> Before doing these exercises, I was unable to really "isolate" the
> muscles that activate my hips. Now I can swing them in differential
> to my shoulders. I saw what Bobby Jones did, but I could only slide
> my hips laterally-- I couldn't really turn myself "in a barrel" like
> he did. Anyone else doing this program?
>
>
> Larry
Now that actually is the secret to the golf swing. Actually not a secret,
but one of the fundamentals of the golf swing. If you don't start the turn
with your hips you will be OTT which is what we were seeing in your videos.
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 10:00:08
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On Thu, 29 2007 09:43:31 -0500, "the Moderator"
<sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
>news:1vsl03db97dbr79p9v3e53s6nd2as4f99r@4ax.com...
>>
>> So who has enrolled in TPI?
>>
>> After only two weeks of intense exercises and stretching, today I
>> found on the range that I can initiate my downswing by swinging my
>> hips! I start my backswing by turning my hips back to "load" my back
>> leg and then swing them toward the target to start the downswing. No
>> lateral slide. Wow! Effortless distance!
>>
>> Before doing these exercises, I was unable to really "isolate" the
>> muscles that activate my hips. Now I can swing them in differential
>> to my shoulders. I saw what Bobby Jones did, but I could only slide
>> my hips laterally-- I couldn't really turn myself "in a barrel" like
>> he did. Anyone else doing this program?
>>
>>
>> Larry
>
>Now that actually is the secret to the golf swing. Actually not a secret,
>but one of the fundamentals of the golf swing. If you don't start the turn
>with your hips you will be OTT which is what we were seeing in your videos.
Yep. I can do it fairly well now-- and getting stronger every day.
Fun to watch Bobby Jones and Ben Hogan-- their strong hip turn was
their real secret. Hogan had gluts like an ice skater.
larry
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 19:30:58
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <aj1803l660sqes2qle2phvtbe2lk2u1bo7@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 22 2007 20:19:27 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
> <bighorn_bill@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 22, 8:58 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> On 22 2007 01:20:07 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
> >>
> >> <bighorn_b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
> >> >> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
> >>
> >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
> >>
> >> >I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
> >> >make it look so easy:
> >>
> >> I am sure every virtuoso piano player started by stumbling through
> >> "chopsticks." so what?
> >>
> >> The difference between the winners and the others in every endeavor is
> >> persistence. I got it. You should have it too.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >
> >http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
> >
> >But, if you notice, Ben is using a very different technique
> >than you do. How open are your hips at impact?
> >Compare to Ben.
> >
> >I also checked out mytpi.com, and found out it wasn't quite the
> >hotbed of Larryism that you pretend. You should read what they
> >have to say about sway, slide, and loss of posture.
>
> Correct is correct. TPI simply teaches what SLAP and virturally every
> reputable pro does. There is no debate about the SINGLE best way for
> a human to swing a golf club. Simply watch the Nationwide tour and
> see 100 young guys doing it identically--.
>
> Larry
Correct is correct; that much is true.
The trouble is, Larry, that *you* aren't an adequate judge of what is
correct.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:58:12
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 22, 9:44 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 21 2007 15:53:11 -0700, "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Loser leaves RSG.
>
> That's all I saw. When are you going to quit posting??
LarryLarry made a funny!!!!
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 15:05:31
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 22, 1:09 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> That's your best comeback?
Nah....here's my best comeback. I did about 15 mins. of research on
you which confirmed my ongoing impression of you, which began when you
picked a pissing match with Ken Pitts, accusing him of throwing clubs.
You post 10-15 times a day on a variety of NG's, picking trivial
arguments with various members. In short, you like arguing for the
sake of arguing. Larry threads are a small example of your M.O. Who
knows why guys like you get off on this kind of mental masturbation.
Perhaps it was a middle school locker room trauma. Maybe mom didn't
breast feed you. Maybe it was the tighty-whitey hand-me-downs from
your brother.
Regardless, I enjoy a real life which neither affords me the time or
desire to get involved with you with this kind of nonsense. You're a
keyboard coward. Want to prove me wrong, then borrow mom's car and
come down to Washington and play me a round of golf. I'll buy the
round and send you gas money in advance. If you beat me, I'll give
you another pocket protector to add to your collection.
Until then, just know that I'll continue to mostly ignore you without
benefit of a KF, except to draw attn. to your M.O. of picking fights
with Larry when he offers a legitimate golf post (like this OP) or
when he successfully reels you in again with his obvious trolling
posts.
Enjoy the last word, nerd.
-Greg
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 23:40:57
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1174601131.446476.180360@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 22, 1:09 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > That's your best comeback?
>
> Nah....here's my best comeback. I did about 15 mins. of research on
> you which confirmed my ongoing impression of you, which began when you
> picked a pissing match with Ken Pitts, accusing him of throwing clubs.
>
> You post 10-15 times a day on a variety of NG's, picking trivial
> arguments with various members. In short, you like arguing for the
> sake of arguing. Larry threads are a small example of your M.O. Who
> knows why guys like you get off on this kind of mental masturbation.
> Perhaps it was a middle school locker room trauma. Maybe mom didn't
> breast feed you. Maybe it was the tighty-whitey hand-me-downs from
> your brother.
>
> Regardless, I enjoy a real life which neither affords me the time or
> desire to get involved with you with this kind of nonsense. You're a
> keyboard coward. Want to prove me wrong, then borrow mom's car and
> come down to Washington and play me a round of golf. I'll buy the
> round and send you gas money in advance. If you beat me, I'll give
> you another pocket protector to add to your collection.
>
> Until then, just know that I'll continue to mostly ignore you without
> benefit of a KF, except to draw attn. to your M.O. of picking fights
> with Larry when he offers a legitimate golf post (like this OP) or
> when he successfully reels you in again with his obvious trolling
> posts.
>
> Enjoy the last word, nerd.
Awww...
I guess my last post hit a little close to home, did it?
Is that why you snipped it all out?
I didn't get into a pissing match with Ken Pitts. I saw him throw a club
after he duffed a chip. It was a classic "I have to show everybody that
I'm actually much better than that by showing how disgusted I am with
myself moment". Now, it just so happens I'm a little more sensitive to
such things, having been hit by a driver when (in a very
uncharacteristic moment) my brother did something similar, so listening
to Ken sermonizing on appropriate etiquette on a golf course while not
following it himself was a bit much. So I called him on it.
Do I enjoy arguing with people? Yes. But those I argue with *deserve*
it, because they're pompous assholes. You'd fit in that category quite
well, except you're too dull to bother with.
As for Larry, he doesn't offer legitimate golf posts, and you know it.
He offers sermon-on-the-mount revealed truths where he knows THE SECRET
to playing good golf. And the only reason that you defend him *at all*
is that the same people who can recognize his brand of idiocy can also
recognize his.
Where in in Washington? When? How about at the next RSG get-together?
Oh... ...wait...
...you're not welcome at them while I am.
Gee, why do you think that might be?
Now, since all I did to take you out of my killfile is to tell my
newsreader to highlight this thread. That means that all you need to do
to let me have the last word is to stop replying.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 13:33:43
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 22, 11:15 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1174578776.497907.306...@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On 21, 7:53 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
> > > > else's post.
>
> > > There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
> > > make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
>
> > > How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
>
> > Read again. I could care less whether I'm in your KF. "Chicken" is
> > responding to me through the reading of somebody' else's reply. AKA,
> > chuck, duck, and run.
>
> Except I didn't "chuck, duck, and run", did I? As I said, since I
> replied to what you'd written, I quite deliberately took you out of my
> killfile for duration of the thread.
>
> So in addition to being dull, you're just not very bright.
LOL. That's your best comeback??
> > As for your golf challenge to Larry, I never saw it, because I rarely
> > read your posts. They are always focused on your need for one-up-man-
> > ship toward Larry in a lame attempt to make yourself look good. IOW,
> > your blather bores me. When Larry appears, you appear, rarely
> > contributing anything else noteworthy to this forum.
>
> I don't know if you've noticed, but it's *winter* here in Vancouver. At
> the moment, I'm rather more focused on skiing and hockey than on golf.
Winter, summer, spring, fally....you have a year round obsession with
Larry's trolling stinkybait.
> > Even your ridiculous signature is a prime example of this blather.
>
> My signature is aimed at someone who is as much of a twit as you, but
> who is at least an *interesting* twit.
And this "twit" isn't part of RSG, is he? Yet your ridiculous
signature stands.
> > Too much truth.....then KF me again, then be man enough to quit taking
> > potshots at me behind it.
>
> A. I didn't take a potshot, you did. Safe in the knowledge that I
> wouldn't see it, you called *me* a chicken.
>
> B. "Too much truth"? LOLOLOLOLOL
>
> Don't flatter yourself. You're a legend only in your own mind.
Again, nerd. There isn't one aspect about your existence that
favorably compares to my life. That's not legend....that's fact.
-Greg
Ps. Still living with the parents?
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 08:52:56
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 7:53 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
>
> > Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
> > else's post.
>
> There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
> make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
>
> How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
Read again. I could care less whether I'm in your KF. "Chicken" is
responding to me through the reading of somebody' else's reply. AKA,
chuck, duck, and run.
As for your golf challenge to Larry, I never saw it, because I rarely
read your posts. They are always focused on your need for one-up-man-
ship toward Larry in a lame attempt to make yourself look good. IOW,
your blather bores me. When Larry appears, you appear, rarely
contributing anything else noteworthy to this forum.
Even your ridiculous signature is a prime example of this blather.
Too much truth.....then KF me again, then be man enough to quit taking
potshots at me behind it.
-Greg
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 19:00:09
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 22 2007 08:52:56 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>On 21, 7:53 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
>> > else's post.
>>
>> There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
>> make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
>>
>> How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
>
>Read again. I could care less whether I'm in your KF. "Chicken" is
>responding to me through the reading of somebody' else's reply. AKA,
>chuck, duck, and run.
>
>As for your golf challenge to Larry, I never saw it, because I rarely
>read your posts. They are always focused on your need for one-up-man-
>ship toward Larry in a lame attempt to make yourself look good. IOW,
>your blather bores me. When Larry appears, you appear, rarely
>contributing anything else noteworthy to this forum.
>
>Even your ridiculous signature is a prime example of this blather.
>
>Too much truth.....then KF me again, then be man enough to quit taking
>potshots at me behind it.
>
>-Greg
The final "challenge" is very simple. Lets compare USGA Indexes. Mine
is on its way to ZERO.
Larry
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 11:12:36
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:m3d603lf6p8uabbel846pen52jnjbi6amr@4ax.com...
> On 22 2007 08:52:56 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> The final "challenge" is very simple. Lets compare USGA Indexes. Mine
> is on its way to ZERO.
>
What a hoot. It's been on its way to zero since you started posting every
"aha!" moment of the week.
Let us know when your index reaches zero... you are already there to meet
it.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 02:10:51
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <m3d603lf6p8uabbel846pen52jnjbi6amr@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 22 2007 08:52:56 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On 21, 7:53 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
> >> > else's post.
> >>
> >> There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
> >> make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
> >>
> >> How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
> >
> >Read again. I could care less whether I'm in your KF. "Chicken" is
> >responding to me through the reading of somebody' else's reply. AKA,
> >chuck, duck, and run.
> >
> >As for your golf challenge to Larry, I never saw it, because I rarely
> >read your posts. They are always focused on your need for one-up-man-
> >ship toward Larry in a lame attempt to make yourself look good. IOW,
> >your blather bores me. When Larry appears, you appear, rarely
> >contributing anything else noteworthy to this forum.
> >
> >Even your ridiculous signature is a prime example of this blather.
> >
> >Too much truth.....then KF me again, then be man enough to quit taking
> >potshots at me behind it.
> >
> >-Greg
>
> The final "challenge" is very simple. Lets compare USGA Indexes. Mine
> is on its way to ZERO.
>
> Larry
Nope. Let's look at what happened when I accepted your challenge to play
"straight up":
You assumed you'd lose. You wanted 12 strokes to play me.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 19:15:17
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1174578776.497907.306510@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 21, 7:53 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
> > > else's post.
> >
> > There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
> > make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
> >
> > How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
>
> Read again. I could care less whether I'm in your KF. "Chicken" is
> responding to me through the reading of somebody' else's reply. AKA,
> chuck, duck, and run.
Except I didn't "chuck, duck, and run", did I? As I said, since I
replied to what you'd written, I quite deliberately took you out of my
killfile for duration of the thread.
So in addition to being dull, you're just not very bright.
>
> As for your golf challenge to Larry, I never saw it, because I rarely
> read your posts. They are always focused on your need for one-up-man-
> ship toward Larry in a lame attempt to make yourself look good. IOW,
> your blather bores me. When Larry appears, you appear, rarely
> contributing anything else noteworthy to this forum.
I don't know if you've noticed, but it's *winter* here in Vancouver. At
the moment, I'm rather more focused on skiing and hockey than on golf.
>
> Even your ridiculous signature is a prime example of this blather.
My signature is aimed at someone who is as much of a twit as you, but
who is at least an *interesting* twit.
>
> Too much truth.....then KF me again, then be man enough to quit taking
> potshots at me behind it.
A. I didn't take a potshot, you did. Safe in the knowledge that I
wouldn't see it, you called *me* a chicken.
B. "Too much truth"? LOLOLOLOLOL
Don't flatter yourself. You're a legend only in your own mind.
>
> -Greg
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 08:36:04
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Tue, 20 2007 18:48:04 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:
>Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
>here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
>perfect very shortly.
>
>Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
That's an interesting swing. Does anybody have any link showing a
pro swinging like that? Or is this recommended for people with
particular swing faults?
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:58:55
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On Thu, 22 2007 08:36:04 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On Tue, 20 2007 18:48:04 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
>>here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
>>perfect very shortly.
>>
>>Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
>That's an interesting swing. Does anybody have any link showing a
>pro swinging like that? Or is this recommended for people with
>particular swing faults?
It is a drill.
Larry
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 02:11:40
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <d2d603tasakla3tf1ekfef1ag5v0mrmavr@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 22 2007 08:36:04 -0600, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 20 2007 18:48:04 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
> >>here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
> >>perfect very shortly.
> >>
> >>Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
> >>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
> >
> >That's an interesting swing. Does anybody have any link showing a
> >pro swinging like that? Or is this recommended for people with
> >particular swing faults?
>
> It is a drill.
>
> Larry
Funny that you need to learn a new drill to do something you've already
claimed you've mastered...
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 01:20:07
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
make it look so easy:
http://www.orrgolf.com/video/benhoganamazinggrace.wmv
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:58:20
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 22 2007 01:20:07 -0700, "Birdie Bill"
<bighorn_bill@hotmail.com > wrote:
>On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
>
>I'm amazed at how hard you make it look, while the pros
>make it look so easy:
I am sure every virtuoso piano player started by stumbling through
"chopsticks." so what?
The difference between the winners and the others in every endeavor is
persistence. I got it. You should have it too.
Larry
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 01:25:25
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 29, 10:55 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> In article <1175237050.238135.156...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On 29, 10:10 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > *I* live for this stuff?
>
> > > > "Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
>
> > > LOL
>
> > > This from the guy who just told me how he was off to his Easter vacation
> > > so wouldn't be posting again!
>
> > I changed my mind. I got a new laptop for my wife. The trip might
> > afford me some time to dial it in for her.
>
> Riiiiiight.
Dell to be exact. Nice machine. You should ask mommy for one.
> > > > > LOL
>
> > > > > *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not brave
> > > > > enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
>
> > > > "Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
> > > > in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
> > > > Disorder.
>
> > > You saw "google", where, precisely. Could it be in your imagination?
Apparently so. Still haven't carefully read that post after the
opening lines. Since you're nothing but a word-nerd, see no reason to
bother.
Especially since you keep referring to it......
> > Goes to show you that I barely scanned your post. I'm not going to
> > get into a he said/she said blather battle with you. Save that for
> > your Larry fetish
>
> IOW, you've been caught in an out and out lie, and now you want to try
> and obscure that fact.
>
Nope.
>
> > > And strange: in your previous post you said you'd read half of my post.
> > > Now, it's "no idea". It's awfully hard to keep it all straight if you
> > > lie all the time, isn't it?
>
> > More blather bait. Yawn....
>
> Simple facts, Greg.
>
I smell stinkybait.
One bit of truth you did say....you like to argue ad-nauseum with
people. Too bad I don't bite, word-nerd.
> > > > > For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of the
> > > > > world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six months),
> > > > > I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the 1998
> > > > > Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5 times
> > > > > a week in the winter months).
>
> > > > Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
> > > > your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
> > > > boy....who pays for this?
>
> > > Just little old me!
>
> > Little is right!
>
> I never claimed to be anything special, Greg. I was just giving you the
> simple facts.
Yeah....just a humble, ugly-ass, little hairball.
> > > > > > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to your
> > > > > > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac vs.
> > > > > > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
>
> > > > > Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
>
> > > > So chickens do live in Canada.
>
> > > I would imagine so. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm not
> > > interested in playing golf with you?
>
> > What it means is that when words evolve into something tangible, like
> > a golf match, you're all feathers.
>
> Nope.
Yup
> You made an incorrect claim: that I would back down from Larry in the
> offer of a golf match. You were wrong, but you were unable to accept
> that fact.
Nope
> The fact that I have no interest in playing golf with you is neither
> here nor there.
>
Wrong....it demonstrates you're all words, nerd.
> > > > > > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > > > > > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for golf,
>
> > > > > Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably even
> > > > > find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since, but
> > > > > only because I wanted the space back for other files.
>
> > > > Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
> > > > basement back?
>
> > > Wow. How long did it take you to think up that devastating witticism?
>
> > > LOL
>
> > 8.42 seconds. I can blather too if sufficiently bored,
>
> You must spend your life very bored then.
Nope. Just up late, trying to get caught up so I can leave town.
Self employed, working types have to do that. Doubt if you'd
understand.
> > > > But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
>
> > > > Post it again, brave guy.
>
> > > Is that as nicely as you can ask? Yeah... ...it probably is.
>
> > > OK.
>
> > > <http://www3.telus.net/bakermedia/Alan_3-wood.mov>
>
> > LOL. Nice hair.
>
> > Actually you have a pretty decent swing, which makes me wonder why
> > you're too chicken to play me for a possible 1k payout.
>
> > But that would require substance instead of words, huh?
>
> I have nothing I need to prove on a golf course with you. I accepted
> Larry's challenge because it amused me at the time. The simple fact is
> that *he* is the one who reneged.
Too bad he did, if he did, because it would have demonstrated, as I
have, that you're all words.
> I'm getting all the amusement I require from you right here!
>
Mental masturbation. No surprise. You gay? Pitch or catch??
>
> > > Not a practice swing, but the real thing. About 220 up a hill on a wet
> > > day. I pulled it a little.
>
> > Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Yeah. Little things like the difference between the range and the course
> wouldn't mean anything to you.
A golf match for $$ means a lot, Foghorn.
> > > Now let's see yours...
>
> > Google me up, Foghorn. Clary put it on his site.
>
> Nope. Not my responsibility to find your swing. Seems like you're all
> blather, doesn't it? Or are you just not bright enough to find a post
> referencing your own swing video?
Not my responsibility to do it either. Could care less if you ever
saw it, unless money is on the line, blather-boy.
> > > > > > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry
to
> > > > > > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round, Ho-
> > > > > > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
>
> > > > > Ah. The mature response, as always.
>
> > > > Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay you
> > > > $1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
>
> > > Nope. Sorry. Not interested.
>
> > You have feathers in your pillow?
Do you?
> > > > > > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
>
> > > > > Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
>
> > > > It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
> > > > you....slow, boring.....
>
> > > Yeah...
>
> > > I can see why sailing wouldn't be something you're interested in. It
> > > takes skill.
>
> > So does manuevering a yacht, wannabe.
>
> LOL
>
> Apparently you think sailboats maneuver themselves...
Nope...yachting in all forms requires both skill and $$....neither
qualities you possess.
> > > Any idiot can open a throttle so I'm certain that it's within your
> > > capacities.
True....but I used the word, manuever, wannabe.
> > Ah, the mature response, as always.
>
> Far more than most of your bon mots.
A clever clucker, aren't you.
Enjoy the last word, nerd. Guarantee I will not read it. Until next
time.....
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
-Greg
Ps. Hi Francis!
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 08:35:46
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1175243125.830576.266720@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 29, 10:55 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <1175237050.238135.156...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > On 29, 10:10 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > *I* live for this stuff?
> >
> > > > > "Live" is poor choice of words. "Exist" is more accurate.
> >
> > > > LOL
> >
> > > > This from the guy who just told me how he was off to his Easter
> > > > vacation
> > > > so wouldn't be posting again!
> >
> > > I changed my mind. I got a new laptop for my wife. The trip might
> > > afford me some time to dial it in for her.
> >
> > Riiiiiight.
>
> Dell to be exact. Nice machine. You should ask mommy for one.
More of the those sophisticated bon mots, eh Greg?
>
> > > > > > LOL
> >
> > > > > > *You* said you wouldn't be replying anymore, but here you are. Not
> > > > > > brave
> > > > > > enough to actually address anything I said, but still jawing.
> >
> > > > > "Declining, not ducking." Truthfully, I have no idea what you wrote
> > > > > in the previous post. I saw "google" and started giggling. RSG Alan
> > > > > Disorder.
> >
> > > > You saw "google", where, precisely. Could it be in your imagination?
>
> Apparently so. Still haven't carefully read that post after the
> opening lines. Since you're nothing but a word-nerd, see no reason to
> bother.
>
> Especially since you keep referring to it......
LOL
You read half of it, you didn't read it, you didn't read it carefully...
>
> > > Goes to show you that I barely scanned your post. I'm not going to
> > > get into a he said/she said blather battle with you. Save that for
> > > your Larry fetish
> >
> > IOW, you've been caught in an out and out lie, and now you want to try
> > and obscure that fact.
> >
>
> Nope.
Yup.
>
> >
> > > > And strange: in your previous post you said you'd read half of my post.
> > > > Now, it's "no idea". It's awfully hard to keep it all straight if you
> > > > lie all the time, isn't it?
> >
> > > More blather bait. Yawn....
> >
> > Simple facts, Greg.
> >
>
> I smell stinkybait.
>
> One bit of truth you did say....you like to argue ad-nauseum with
> people. Too bad I don't bite, word-nerd.
I've never denied that I like to argue.
>
> > > > > > For your information, in addition to golf (which in this part of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > world really hasn't been the sport of choice for the past six
> > > > > > months),
> > > > > > I'm a skier (an instructor, in fact), a sailor (competed at the
> > > > > > 1998
> > > > > > Soling World Championships) and I play a little hockey (like 4 - 5
> > > > > > times
> > > > > > a week in the winter months).
> >
> > > > > Soiling....I believe that. But more important, why are you giving me
> > > > > your resume? Could it be you're trying to impress me? Tell me Sport
> > > > > boy....who pays for this?
> >
> > > > Just little old me!
> >
> > > Little is right!
> >
> > I never claimed to be anything special, Greg. I was just giving you the
> > simple facts.
>
> Yeah....just a humble, ugly-ass, little hairball.
LOL
>
> > > > > > > I'm heading out for Easter vacation so I'll leave you for now to
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > ongoing Larry fetish and the life changing "debates" on the Mac
> > > > > > > vs.
> > > > > > > IBM. Just know that you are ducking a challenge to play golf,
> >
> > > > > > Not "ducking", Greg, declining.
> >
> > > > > So chickens do live in Canada.
> >
> > > > I would imagine so. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm
> > > > not
> > > > interested in playing golf with you?
> >
> > > What it means is that when words evolve into something tangible, like
> > > a golf match, you're all feathers.
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Yup
Nope. I just have no interest in playing golf with you.
>
> > You made an incorrect claim: that I would back down from Larry in the
> > offer of a golf match. You were wrong, but you were unable to accept
> > that fact.
>
> Nope
Yup. That's what started all the obfuscating.
>
> > The fact that I have no interest in playing golf with you is neither
> > here nor there.
> >
>
> Wrong....it demonstrates you're all words, nerd.
LOL
You think "nerd" stings? Really?
LOL
>
> > > > > > > demonstrating what a nutless NG nerd you are. My swing is on the
> > > > > > > net. So is Larry's. Your's isn't....what a surprise. As for
> > > > > > > golf,
> >
> > > > > > Actually, mine was. And if you're bright enough, you can probably
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > find the posts where it was mentioned. I've taken it down since,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > only because I wanted the space back for other files.
> >
> > > > > Speaking of space, what's going to happen when mommy wants her
> > > > > basement back?
> >
> > > > Wow. How long did it take you to think up that devastating witticism?
> >
> > > > LOL
> >
> > > 8.42 seconds. I can blather too if sufficiently bored,
> >
> > You must spend your life very bored then.
>
> Nope. Just up late, trying to get caught up so I can leave town.
> Self employed, working types have to do that. Doubt if you'd
> understand.
Sure I understand. I'm self-employed too.
What we know is that you *said* you weren't going to reply to me
anymore; you were going to let me have the last word. Only you couldn't
follow through.
We know you said you were going on Easter vacation and thus wouldn't be
replying for a little while. Only you didn't follow through.
>
> > > > > But if you ask nicely, I'll see if I can put it up again.
> >
> > > > > Post it again, brave guy.
> >
> > > > Is that as nicely as you can ask? Yeah... ...it probably is.
> >
> > > > OK.
> >
> > > > <http://www3.telus.net/bakermedia/Alan_3-wood.mov>
> >
> > > LOL. Nice hair.
> >
> > > Actually you have a pretty decent swing, which makes me wonder why
> > > you're too chicken to play me for a possible 1k payout.
> >
> > > But that would require substance instead of words, huh?
> >
> > I have nothing I need to prove on a golf course with you. I accepted
> > Larry's challenge because it amused me at the time. The simple fact is
> > that *he* is the one who reneged.
>
> Too bad he did, if he did, because it would have demonstrated, as I
> have, that you're all words.
We'll never know, will we? Since he -- what did you call it? --
chickened out.
>
> > I'm getting all the amusement I require from you right here!
> >
>
> Mental masturbation. No surprise. You gay? Pitch or catch??
LOL
You're really...
...quite ordinary, aren't you?
>
> >
> > > > Not a practice swing, but the real thing. About 220 up a hill on a wet
> > > > day. I pulled it a little.
> >
> > > Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >
> > Yeah. Little things like the difference between the range and the course
> > wouldn't mean anything to you.
>
> A golf match for $$ means a lot, Foghorn.
To you, maybe.
>
> > > > Now let's see yours...
> >
> > > Google me up, Foghorn. Clary put it on his site.
> >
> > Nope. Not my responsibility to find your swing. Seems like you're all
> > blather, doesn't it? Or are you just not bright enough to find a post
> > referencing your own swing video?
>
> Not my responsibility to do it either. Could care less if you ever
> saw it, unless money is on the line, blather-boy.
So, you *are* all blather. You tried to pretend that I hadn't posted my
swing, but I had and now you can't actually show that you ever did post
yours.
>
> > > > > > > you don't have to come very far south. Just take a ferry
> to
> > > > > > > Anacortes, where my yacht is moored. I'll pay for your round,
> > > > > > > Ho-
> > > > > > > Ho's, daily supply of pimple Rx, and the round trip ferry ride.
> >
> > > > > > Ah. The mature response, as always.
> >
> > > > > Nice diversion, Foghorn. I'll up the ante. You beat me, I'll pay
> > > > > you
> > > > > $1000. I beat you, then your mommy pays me $100.
> >
> > > > Nope. Sorry. Not interested.
> >
> > > You have feathers in your pillow?
>
> Do you?
What do you think your question means?
>
> > > > > > > If I like you, I'll even take for a boat ride afterwards.
> >
> > > > > > Sorry, but I don't sail with people I don't like.
> >
> > > > > It's a motoryacht. Ya know....engines, fuel. Sailing reminds me of
> > > > > you....slow, boring.....
> >
> > > > Yeah...
> >
> > > > I can see why sailing wouldn't be something you're interested in. It
> > > > takes skill.
> >
> > > So does manuevering a yacht, wannabe.
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Apparently you think sailboats maneuver themselves...
>
> Nope...yachting in all forms requires both skill and $$....neither
> qualities you possess.
Sorry, Greg. Simply untrue. I've been sailing since I was 6 or 7. Nearly
forty years.
>
>
> > > > Any idiot can open a throttle so I'm certain that it's within your
> > > > capacities.
>
> True....but I used the word, manuever, wannabe.
LOL
And tried to pretend that that was something that sailing didn't
require, when in fact it requires even more skill since wind and tide
constrain your maneuvers even more than when maneuvering a powerboat.
>
> > > Ah, the mature response, as always.
> >
> > Far more than most of your bon mots.
>
> A clever clucker, aren't you.
>
> Enjoy the last word, nerd. Guarantee I will not read it. Until next
> time.....
IOW, you now don't even have the balls to say one way or the other.
>
> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
>
> -Greg
>
> Ps. Hi Francis!
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 23:47:07
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote ...
>I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> http://www.mytpi.com
>
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
It's one of the causes of slicing, but not THE cause.
In fact, the whole idea of getting rotated to the post in the throughswing
can often cause problems of its own when the person trying to do it fails to
execute it properly. Too often, lesser-skilled players will simply allow
themselves to get out ahead of the ball, which is another cause of slicing
and blocking shots and will be (wrongly) perceived as evidence that this
idea doesn't work.
You're actually right about this, as I will elaborate on further below...
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
Bingo. This is the best thing you've posted here. (No pun intended.)
Really.
However, I must add one caveat. The trick is not merely to post on the
front foot. The trick is to post on the front HEEL. Or as several TOUR
players put it to me, the idea is to "rotate to the post" (the "post" being
an imaginary stake running down the left leg and through the left heel in a
right-hander's swing). The proof of this concept being one that is
universally understood and adopted by TOUR professionals can be viewed when
you see almost ever TOUR player in his finish position. The toe end of his
front shoe is always slightly raised, and his weight is almost entirely on
his front heel -- not evenly spread throughout his left foot He's "posted"
his swing on the left heel. Or as I prefer to say it, "he's rotated to the
post.".
This whole discussion of the so-called "post" is something I've only heard
discussed in professional golf circles, and I've never seen it mentioned in
any golf publication that provides instruction for recreational players. I
assume they figure it's too advanced a concept for the masses to grasp.
I've mentioned it a time or two on this forum, and found little to no
interest in it.
That you're now advocating it all but assures that it will be dismissed by
most people here.
That's unfortunate, because this is one of the very few times you've
actually been right about something.
Randy
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:56:00
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 23:47:07 -0400, "\"R&B\""
<noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote:
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote ...
>>I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
>> http://www.mytpi.com
>>
>>
>> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
>> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
>> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
>> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
>> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
>> around a golf course.
>>
>> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
>> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
>> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
>> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
>> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
>> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
>> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
>> miracles.
>
>
>It's one of the causes of slicing, but not THE cause.
>
>In fact, the whole idea of getting rotated to the post in the throughswing
>can often cause problems of its own when the person trying to do it fails to
>execute it properly. Too often, lesser-skilled players will simply allow
>themselves to get out ahead of the ball, which is another cause of slicing
>and blocking shots and will be (wrongly) perceived as evidence that this
>idea doesn't work.
>
>You're actually right about this, as I will elaborate on further below...
>
>
>> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
>> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
>
>Bingo. This is the best thing you've posted here. (No pun intended.)
>Really.
>
>However, I must add one caveat. The trick is not merely to post on the
>front foot. The trick is to post on the front HEEL. Or as several TOUR
>players put it to me, the idea is to "rotate to the post" (the "post" being
>an imaginary stake running down the left leg and through the left heel in a
>right-hander's swing). The proof of this concept being one that is
>universally understood and adopted by TOUR professionals can be viewed when
>you see almost ever TOUR player in his finish position. The toe end of his
>front shoe is always slightly raised, and his weight is almost entirely on
>his front heel -- not evenly spread throughout his left foot He's "posted"
>his swing on the left heel. Or as I prefer to say it, "he's rotated to the
>post.".
>
> This whole discussion of the so-called "post" is something I've only heard
>discussed in professional golf circles, and I've never seen it mentioned in
>any golf publication that provides instruction for recreational players. I
>assume they figure it's too advanced a concept for the masses to grasp.
>I've mentioned it a time or two on this forum, and found little to no
>interest in it.
>
>That you're now advocating it all but assures that it will be dismissed by
>most people here.
>
>That's unfortunate, because this is one of the very few times you've
>actually been right about something.
>
>Randy
Hi Randy,
I am enrolled in TPI, Titleist Performance Institute. My teachers
teach touring pros.
As you correctly identified, we must POST on our front leg
simultaneous with the clubhead striking the ball. And also the
clubhead path must approach the ball along or from inside the target
line-- which means that we must have started our downswing with a
movement of the hips toward the target-- which provides room for the
dominant arm elbow to come in against our side--remain there through
the pivot turn forward, and thus NOT push the clubhead outside the
target or "magic" line as described by Bobby Jones.
It is always scary for some pros when an engineer takes up golf. We
want to know the physics of the swing.
TPI now has me doing endless right foot only hitting. Since I was
late doing the "baseball" drill, this is my punishment, ha. They
realized that I was not ready-- and was inadvertantly ingraining a
major fault. Now I am to hit off my right foot until I completely
ingrain the feeling of totally being on that HEEL at impact, and
naturally go there as soon as possible during the downswing. I will
play the course this weekend doing that.
As you identify, this is indeed rarefied territory. TPI said only 1
in 100 or fewer amateurs is not always late at impact. Learning to
get forward is the price of low handicap golf for late beginners.
Larry
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 15:50:22
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:cqKdnQkMXtGnYZzbnZ2dnUVZ_viunZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> This whole discussion of the so-called "post" is something I've only heard
> discussed in professional golf circles, and I've never seen it mentioned
> in any golf publication that provides instruction for recreational
> players. I assume they figure it's too advanced a concept for the masses
> to grasp. I've mentioned it a time or two on this forum, and found little
> to no interest in it.
>
Thanks for your description of this concept. It makes sense. I would like
to read some more about it, do you have any resources to recommend?
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:15:05
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21, 2:22 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 21 2007 10:45:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 21, 9:25 am, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>
> >> Thanks Greg,
>
> >> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
> >> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
> >> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
> >> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
> >> golfer over the years.
>
> >Thanks for the kind welcome, Larry. I'm a long time lurker who is
> >just now getting the nerve to post here. Even as write this, there is
> >sweat on my brow, fearing that these meanie regulars will soon turn on
> >me.
>
> >I'm in awe of your omniscient observations. Thanks for being so
> >brave.
>
> >-Greg Ross
>
> Thanks Greg,
>
> Well, I have two secrets. First, I only participate here now and
> then. I always give it a healthy break of several days, sometimes
> several weeks. The nutcase regulars have become myopic from 12 hours
> a day of just lurking on RSG. They have lost all common sense and
> perspective-- and of course they don't know that.
>
> Second, I see the regulars here as my entertainment. I can operate
> them like ionettes. I have started threads that lasted weeks!
> Thousand and thousands of posts-- I would go away for days and come
> back and they were still posting seething invective about me and/or my
> thread premise. I even tell them they are here to amuse me and they
> bite anyhow! I love it.
>
> Larry (KING of RSG)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Wow. Hook, line, sinker.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 15:53:11
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21, 10:50 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
>
> > >If you two were to play, my money would be on Larry.
>
> > >-Greg
>
> LOL
>
> Just to let Greg know (I've got him in my killfile, so I don't see his
> messages except in other's replies):
>
> Larry challenged me to a match "straight up"...
>
> ...but then he chickened out.
Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
else's post.
> > The RSG couch potatoes are high handicappers with possibly an
> > exception or two who can actually play. The rest, even the guy who
> > says he is a "TGM Instructor," are back foot hackers, "chops" they
> > call such golfers since they have learned to "hit" with their hands
> > and arms to compensate for their incorrect weight shift and lack of
> > transition.
>
> The simple truth is that I have a way better swing than you. I play less
> than once a week and really only from April to September/October.
>
> And I could beat you any time you're willing to make could on the
> straight up match you offered.
Ya know Larry. How about inviting myself, Baker, and Knight to your
club. You play Baker, I play Knight, or we play together against
them. Loser leaves RSG.
You game?
-Greg
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 18:44:46
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21 2007 15:53:11 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
Loser leaves RSG.
That's all I saw. When are you going to quit posting??
Larry
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 03:53:19
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <1174517591.251358.104450@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
> On 21, 10:50 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > > >If you two were to play, my money would be on Larry.
> >
> > > >-Greg
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Just to let Greg know (I've got him in my killfile, so I don't see his
> > messages except in other's replies):
> >
> > Larry challenged me to a match "straight up"...
> >
> > ...but then he chickened out.
>
> Chicken....like in killfilling someone, then replying through someone
> else's post.
There: you're out of my killfile for today! (I figured you'd want to
make some stupid reply and so I made allowances).
How is putting someone as boring as you in my killfile "chicken"?
You're not in my killfile because I'm "afraid", Greg. How can I possibly
be "afraid" of text on a screen? You're just too dull to bother with.
>
> > > The RSG couch potatoes are high handicappers with possibly an
> > > exception or two who can actually play. The rest, even the guy who
> > > says he is a "TGM Instructor," are back foot hackers, "chops" they
> > > call such golfers since they have learned to "hit" with their hands
> > > and arms to compensate for their incorrect weight shift and lack of
> > > transition.
> >
> > The simple truth is that I have a way better swing than you. I play less
> > than once a week and really only from April to September/October.
> >
> > And I could beat you any time you're willing to make could on the
> > straight up match you offered.
>
> Ya know Larry. How about inviting myself, Baker, and Knight to your
> club. You play Baker, I play Knight, or we play together against
> them. Loser leaves RSG.
>
> You game?
Larry made a challenge and then welched. Him I still want to make good
on his challenge.
Are you Larry? No.
Do I want to play golf with you? No.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 14:11:06
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 11:41 am, frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
> Dene wrote:
> > On 21, 10:23 am, frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
>
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................
>
> > (Ambien doesn't hold a candle to you)
>
> > -Greg
>
> Which means that you don't have a reasonable answer.
> Figures.
> Frank Ross
It simply means I'm not going to waste my time with you.
Bye Francis.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 12:27:09
From: Steve H.
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21, 3:21 pm, "FredK" <fred.nos...@google.com > wrote:
> "larry" <l...@deldata.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ujt203p569siiahsq6vf3gie03lojdear0@4ax.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 21 2007 10:45:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdst...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>On 21, 9:25 am, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks Greg,
>
> >>> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
> >>> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
> >>> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
> >>> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
> >>> golfer over the years.
>
> >>Thanks for the kind welcome, Larry. I'm a long time lurker who is
> >>just now getting the nerve to post here. Even as write this, there is
> >>sweat on my brow, fearing that these meanie regulars will soon turn on
> >>me.
>
> >>I'm in awe of your omniscient observations. Thanks for being so
> >>brave.
>
> >>-Greg Ross
>
> > Thanks Greg,
>
> > Well, I have two secrets. First, I only participate here now and
> > then. I always give it a healthy break of several days, sometimes
> > several weeks. The nutcase regulars have become myopic from 12 hours
> > a day of just lurking on RSG. They have lost all common sense and
> > perspective-- and of course they don't know that.
>
> > Second, I see the regulars here as my entertainment. I can operate
> > them like ionettes. I have started threads that lasted weeks!
> > Thousand and thousands of posts-- I would go away for days and come
> > back and they were still posting seething invective about me and/or my
> > thread premise. I even tell them they are here to amuse me and they
> > bite anyhow! I love it.
>
> > Larry (KING of RSG)
>
> To cut Miss Anne Thrope to the chase...
>
> I thought your two secrets were a small penis and lack of a life.
A well deserved "rimshot" is in order.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:54:31
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 10:23 am, frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................
(Ambien doesn't hold a candle to you)
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 14:41:06
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
Dene wrote:
> On 21, 10:23 am, frank ross <f...@net.net> wrote:
>
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......................
>
> (Ambien doesn't hold a candle to you)
>
> -Greg
Which means that you don't have a reasonable answer.
Figures.
Frank Ross
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:34:49
From: Mister Hand
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21, 10:15 am, "FredK" <fred.nos...@dec.com > wrote:
> Larry here.
>
> We have never played golf, ...blah snipped
Miss Anne Thrope you ain't. Cut it down. Tempo. Think, 'tempo'.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 19:36:10
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
"Mister Hand" <mister-hand@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1174502089.426795.264740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 21, 10:15 am, "FredK" <fred.nos...@dec.com> wrote:
>> Larry here.
>>
>> We have never played golf, ...blah snipped
>
> Miss Anne Thrope you ain't. Cut it down. Tempo. Think, 'tempo'.
>
Yes I know, but with so much material it's hard to edit it down to its
essence. Each facet of Larrys persona is so rich, so deep. As originally
envisioned it was a "serial" - multiple replies starting with a note from
larry_v1 and progressing on. But as Larry so insightfully pointed out - the
minutes left on this Earth to the denzions of RSG is limited.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:08:43
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 10:04 am, francis <f...@net.net > wrote:
Not nibblin on yer stinkybait, Francis.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 13:23:15
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
You left out a whole lot. First, there was no mention that anyone
*needs* to receive instruction here. The Moderator said that he had
pointed out one of Larry's *secrets* earlier. Then,there's the hint
that Larry's offerings are worthy. Some are...but when he says that
each one is the final answer it calls to question his credibility.
If you're going to call every one out that has criticized him for this,
you're going to very busy...and generally laughed at.
Dene wrote:
> On 21, 10:04 am, francis <f...@net.net> wrote:
>
> Not nibblin on yer stinkybait, Francis.
>
> -Greg
>
Because you have no answer. You seem to be an intelligent person, and
you have to know that Larry's a joke. Why do you continue to harass
just a few of the people that call him on his over the top claims? You
just seem to pick a couple of them. Hmmmmm.
Frank Ross
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:54:24
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 9:50 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
>
> Damned right. I have never, never, offered swing advice or claimed
> to be able to reveal the secret of golf.
>
> That hasn't stopped LLLLarrrry though, he knows all of them. LOL
Fair enough....you haven't. Yet you state that he needs to receive
instruction from RSG instead of offering it. One could make a case
for pointing out the flaws in both scenarios.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 13:04:01
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Dene wrote:
> On 21, 9:50 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>
>> Damned right. I have never, never, offered swing advice or claimed
>> to be able to reveal the secret of golf.
>>
>> That hasn't stopped LLLLarrrry though, he knows all of them. LOL
>
> Fair enough....you haven't. Yet you state that he needs to receive
> instruction from RSG instead of offering it. One could make a case
> for pointing out the flaws in both scenarios.
>
> -Greg
>
You left out a whole lot. First, there was no mention that anyone
*needs* to receive instruction here. The Moderator said that he had
pointed out one of Larry's *secrets* earlier. Then,there's the hint
that Larry's offerings are worthy. Some are...but when he says that
each one is the final answer it calls to question his credibility.
If you're going to call every one out that has criticized him for this,
you're going to very busy...and generally laughed at.
Frank Ross
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Date: 25 Mar 2007 00:05:14
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"frank ross" <fross@net.net > wrote
>
> Then,there's the hint that Larry's offerings are worthy. Some are...but
> when he says that each one is the
> final answer it calls to question his credibility.
I have a slightly different take on this.
I agree with you that some of Larry's offerings are worthy. This "late"
thread is one of them.
But where Larry falls short is in his forthrightness. Face it, Larry is a
hack. He's no different from a lot of other people on this board. He's a
recreational player who, like many others, is looking for "the answer."
You gotta hand it to him. He does seem to love the game, and is is,
unquestionably, enthusiastic in his search for the magic formula that will
transform him into a scratch golfer (or something closely approximating it).
And he seems willing to work at it. You can't fault him for any of that.
But like most recreational players seeking to find golf nirvana, Larry is
easily sucked in by the promise of success that each new discovery offers.
As a result, he does what a lot of us have done in the past. He discovers
something new, it causes him to hit a few (or even a lot of) good shots,
and -- bang! -- he says he's found "the secret."
We've all been there, done that.
I really don't fault him for that, either. In fact, I admire his enthusiasm
and his moxie.
Where I find huge fault with him is in his condescending attitude that
causes him to frequently opine that he's the only one who has found those
secrets. In fact, he often conveys an attitude that suggests that he thinks
he's the only one who knows anything at all. Setting aside the
ridiculousness of that foolish attitude, it speaks volumes about a
fundamental character flaw. He seems to honestly believe he's better than
everyone else. Not just a better golfer (which he's clearly not), but a
better, ster, more inquisitive person. You see it in his bravado, you
see it in his political rants, and you see it in his off-handed dismissals
of others, which are often accompanied with a downright mean-spiritedness
that exceeds the mean-spiritedness of some of his more vociferous critics.
This is not a happy person. Quite to the contrary -- this is a person who
craves attention and affirmation. That he would look to a Usenet group for
such a thing is...well...sad.
But as far as his golf journey goes, I really don't have any problem with
him. I just hope that newbies who come along looking, as newbies so often
do, for the "secret," hoping to find it here, and read his stuff, will take
his offerings with a pound of salt, as they should with anything written in
Usenet.
Personally, I hope Larry succeeds in becoming the golfer he wants to be.
There's no reason to wish anyone anything but success on the golf course
(unless, of course, you're playing them for money). If he really gets that
good, he'll have to spend more time practicing, and less time online.
But more importantly, I wish he'd realize he's just another one of millions
of golfers seeking that magic formula that will transform them into a better
player, and that eventually, if he lives long enough to realize it, he'll
discover tha there is no such magic formula. There is merely knowledge to
be gained. And nobody has a corner on that ket.
As any world-class player will tell you, there is no final destination in
the golf knowledge journey. Only a path. Or an infinite number of paths,
actually. That's one of the things that makes golf so intriguing -- you
can't "perfect" it.
Not every golfer craves to be a great at golf. Some play strictly for the
enjoyment of it, and find no less enjoyment from playing their relatively
poor brand of golf than better players find when they're playing well. Some
play (and practice) to get good. Some are driven to try to become great.
Some reach their goal. Some don't. There is no right or wrong way to
approach it. But no matter how good you become, there's always someone
better. Even Tiger has days or weeks when he's not the best. And no matter
how bad you suck at golf, there's always someone worse. Even Bobby Knight
has days when there's someone he can beat. (Sorry Bobby, I had to.) <g >
Larry just needs to settle down and realize that whatever the latest
"secret" is that he's found that he thinks is "the answer," there's another
"secret" awaiting him right around the next corner, and someone else
discovered it before he did. He's not the only one searching...and finding.
Randy
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Date: 25 Mar 2007 07:58:38
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"R&B" wrote:
<Snip >
> Larry just needs to settle down and realize that whatever the latest
> "secret" is that he's found that he thinks is "the answer," there's another
> "secret" awaiting him right around the next corner, and someone else
> discovered it before he did. He's not the only one searching...and finding.
And finding, and finding, and finding...
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 25 Mar 2007 12:53:19
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:56n9vvF2a1t3lU1@mid.individual.net...
> "R&B" wrote:
> <Snip>
>> Larry just needs to settle down and realize that whatever the latest
>> "secret" is that he's found that he thinks is "the answer," there's
>> another "secret" awaiting him right around the next corner, and someone
>> else discovered it before he did. He's not the only one searching...and
>> finding.
>
> And finding, and finding, and finding...
Bullseye.
Randy
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Date: 25 Mar 2007 14:48:38
From: Don A Roof
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Nothing better than a "LLLlarry post" to crack me up! Keep 'em coming,
Lar.
Is he a troll, or just an asshole? I have seen that argued on both
sides quite convincingly either way. My own take is that the answer is
somewhere in the middle. He's obviously a troll - "now." but I also
believe that LLLLlarry IS Larry and vice versa. He is what he has
presented himself to be on this ng, which means that he is definitely an
asshole.
This thread is made up of some great posts, written by some gifted
writers (imo).
Way back ...waaaaaay back when I first became aware of Larry on the ng,
I viewed him as just "Larry." Just a guy who you'll find in almost any
weekend group. The guy who just read the latest tip in Golf or Golf
Digest or heard Ken Venturi or Johnny Miller say something that "turned
HIS game around" and now HE wants to tell the rest of us how screwed up
we are unless we also adopt the latest band aid.
Taken in small doses those guys are harmless and easy to ignore. Taken
over a period of time and in large doses they ARE aggrevating and hard
to take for all of the reasons that the "regulars" have outlined in
LLLlarry's case.
I choose to read the LLLlarry threads for a number of reasons not the
least of which being that they bring out the creative rebuttals to his
nonsense that this thread illustrates. Sure, much of what the
self-proclaimed king of RSG says is fundamental golf knowledge suddenly
discovered by him, but it is never the topic itself that causes me to
click on "Larry," it is his feigned or real ego that keeps him thinking
that someday Lucy will NOT pull the ball away as he approaches it....
Good luck in reaching scratch, Char...er..Larry.
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 09:40:44
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"Don A Roof" <donaroof@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:23020-4606C406-918@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
> Nothing better than a "LLLlarry post" to crack me up! Keep 'em coming,
> Lar.
>
> Is he a troll, or just an asshole? I have seen that argued on both
> sides quite convincingly either way. My own take is that the answer is
> somewhere in the middle. He's obviously a troll - "now." but I also
> believe that LLLLlarry IS Larry and vice versa. He is what he has
> presented himself to be on this ng, which means that he is definitely an
> asshole.
I don't see larry as a troll. I think he is like this in real life. He has
done some trollish things, because of all the negativity he has drawn to
himself, but I don't doubt that his personality is the same in real life.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:50:13
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 10:31 am, "FredK" <fred.nos...@google.com > wrote:
>
> Larry, you are one of the most humorous guys on the web. It's like clubbing
> baby seals. Or fishing with dynamite. You are pure gold.
>
> Oh, you spend probably 1000% more time here and in other forums than I do...
> and statistically appear to have many fewer days left on earth than I.
Uh oh....death wish.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:49:09
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 9:38 am, frank ross <f...@net.net > wrote:
Hi Francis!
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:48:16
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 9:45 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net > wrote:
> > Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
> I didn't actually watch the video the first time, but now that I realize
> (from reading other replies) that it was of your swing, I just had to
> take a peek.
>
> And all I can say is:
>
> Bwahhhahhahahahahahhahaah!
If you two were to play, my money would be on Larry.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:26:04
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21 2007 10:48:16 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>On 21, 9:45 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> > Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>>
>> I didn't actually watch the video the first time, but now that I realize
>> (from reading other replies) that it was of your swing, I just had to
>> take a peek.
>>
>> And all I can say is:
>>
>> Bwahhhahhahahahahahhahaah!
>
>
>If you two were to play, my money would be on Larry.
>
>-Greg
The RSG couch potatoes are high handicappers with possibly an
exception or two who can actually play. The rest, even the guy who
says he is a "TGM Instructor," are back foot hackers, "chops" they
call such golfers since they have learned to "hit" with their hands
and arms to compensate for their incorrect weight shift and lack of
transition.
Larry
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:50:50
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <c0u2031m9nccvl9b7ubmk2ojtjd90i4o37@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 21 2007 10:48:16 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On 21, 9:45 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
> >
> >> > Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
> >>
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
> >>
> >> I didn't actually watch the video the first time, but now that I realize
> >> (from reading other replies) that it was of your swing, I just had to
> >> take a peek.
> >>
> >> And all I can say is:
> >>
> >> Bwahhhahhahahahahahhahaah!
> >
> >
> >If you two were to play, my money would be on Larry.
> >
> >-Greg
LOL
Just to let Greg know (I've got him in my killfile, so I don't see his
messages except in other's replies):
Larry challenged me to a match "straight up"...
...but then he chickened out.
> The RSG couch potatoes are high handicappers with possibly an
> exception or two who can actually play. The rest, even the guy who
> says he is a "TGM Instructor," are back foot hackers, "chops" they
> call such golfers since they have learned to "hit" with their hands
> and arms to compensate for their incorrect weight shift and lack of
> transition.
The simple truth is that I have a way better swing than you. I play less
than once a week and really only from April to September/October.
And I could beat you any time you're willing to make could on the
straight up match you offered.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:45:01
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
On 21, 9:25 am, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
>
> Thanks Greg,
>
> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
> golfer over the years.
>
Thanks for the kind welcome, Larry. I'm a long time lurker who is
just now getting the nerve to post here. Even as write this, there is
sweat on my brow, fearing that these meanie regulars will soon turn on
me.
I'm in awe of your omniscient observations. Thanks for being so
brave.
-Greg Ross
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 11:22:55
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21 2007 10:45:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>On 21, 9:25 am, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Greg,
>>
>> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
>> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
>> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
>> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
>> golfer over the years.
>>
>
>Thanks for the kind welcome, Larry. I'm a long time lurker who is
>just now getting the nerve to post here. Even as write this, there is
>sweat on my brow, fearing that these meanie regulars will soon turn on
>me.
>
>I'm in awe of your omniscient observations. Thanks for being so
>brave.
>
>-Greg Ross
Thanks Greg,
Well, I have two secrets. First, I only participate here now and
then. I always give it a healthy break of several days, sometimes
several weeks. The nutcase regulars have become myopic from 12 hours
a day of just lurking on RSG. They have lost all common sense and
perspective-- and of course they don't know that.
Second, I see the regulars here as my entertainment. I can operate
them like ionettes. I have started threads that lasted weeks!
Thousand and thousands of posts-- I would go away for days and come
back and they were still posting seething invective about me and/or my
thread premise. I even tell them they are here to amuse me and they
bite anyhow! I love it.
Larry (KING of RSG)
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 19:21:28
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:ujt203p569siiahsq6vf3gie03lojdear0@4ax.com...
> On 21 2007 10:45:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On 21, 9:25 am, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Greg,
>>>
>>> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
>>> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
>>> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
>>> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
>>> golfer over the years.
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for the kind welcome, Larry. I'm a long time lurker who is
>>just now getting the nerve to post here. Even as write this, there is
>>sweat on my brow, fearing that these meanie regulars will soon turn on
>>me.
>>
>>I'm in awe of your omniscient observations. Thanks for being so
>>brave.
>>
>>-Greg Ross
>
> Thanks Greg,
>
> Well, I have two secrets. First, I only participate here now and
> then. I always give it a healthy break of several days, sometimes
> several weeks. The nutcase regulars have become myopic from 12 hours
> a day of just lurking on RSG. They have lost all common sense and
> perspective-- and of course they don't know that.
>
> Second, I see the regulars here as my entertainment. I can operate
> them like ionettes. I have started threads that lasted weeks!
> Thousand and thousands of posts-- I would go away for days and come
> back and they were still posting seething invective about me and/or my
> thread premise. I even tell them they are here to amuse me and they
> bite anyhow! I love it.
>
> Larry (KING of RSG)
To cut Miss Anne Thrope to the chase...
I thought your two secrets were a small penis and lack of a life.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:45:00
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> http://www.mytpi.com
>
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
>
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
> perfect very shortly.
>
> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
I didn't actually watch the video the first time, but now that I realize
(from reading other replies) that it was of your swing, I just had to
take a peek.
And all I can say is:
Bwahhhahhahahahahahhahaah!
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:17:01
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21, 6:03 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net > wrote:
> On Wed, 21 2007 08:54:30 -0500, "the Moderator"
>
>
>
>
>
> <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>
> >"larry" <l...@deldata.com> wrote in message
> >news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
> >> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> >>http://www.mytpi.com
>
> >> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> >> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> >> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> >> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> >> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> >> around a golf course.
>
> >> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> >> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> >> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> >> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> >> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> >> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> >> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> >> miracles.
>
> >> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> >> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
> >I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
>
> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
> bestows THE secret.
>
> Weekly.
> ___,
> \o
>
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 12:38:00
From: frank ross
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Dene wrote:
> On 21, 6:03 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 2007 08:54:30 -0500, "the Moderator"
>>> I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
>> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
>> bestows THE secret.
>>
>> Weekly.
>> "Someone likes every shot"
>> bk- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Yeah.....based on your skill level, what exactly would you teach him
> or anybody about the golf swing?
>
> -Greg
The Moderator was the one saying that he had pointed out the flaw.
I don't recall BK ever saying that he knew the *secret* to the golf
swing. That's Larry's job. :-)
You just can't stop skulking.
Frank Ross
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:50:32
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 12:38:00 -0500, frank ross <fross@net.net > wrote:
>Dene wrote:
>> On 21, 6:03 am, Bobby Knight <bkni...@conramp.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 2007 08:54:30 -0500, "the Moderator"
>
>>>> I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
>
>>> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
>>> bestows THE secret.
>>>
>>> Weekly.
>
>
>>> "Someone likes every shot"
>>> bk- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Yeah.....based on your skill level, what exactly would you teach him
>> or anybody about the golf swing?
>>
>> -Greg
>The Moderator was the one saying that he had pointed out the flaw.
>I don't recall BK ever saying that he knew the *secret* to the golf
>swing. That's Larry's job. :-)
>
>You just can't stop skulking.
>Frank Ross
Damned right. I have never, never, offered swing advice or claimed
to be able to reveal the secret of golf.
That hasn't stopped LLLLarrrry though, he knows all of them. LOL
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:32:12
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21 2007 10:17:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>>
>> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
>> bestows THE secret.
>
>Yeah.....based on your skill level, what exactly would you teach him
>or anybody about the golf swing?
>
>-Greg
BK is just a fat old toad likely with high blood pressure. Becoming
increasingly bitter and curmudgeonly.
Listening to Al Gore speaking to congress- about the hoax of Global
Warming. Why didn't someone ask, "Senator, we've all seen your
college transcripts, what qualifies you to talk on this subject?"
FYI, he took ONE general science class at Harvard and made a "D." His
transcript overall was so poor that the US Army would not recognize
his "degree" and commission him as an officer--thus he was obliged to
enter the Army as an Enlisted Man-- Now he is lecturing the nation
on science??
Larry
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 00:32:45
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:5nq203l5cl4fi71dq1pgfnal7t6muvp4p5@4ax.com...
> On 21 2007 10:17:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
>>> bestows THE secret.
>>
>>Yeah.....based on your skill level, what exactly would you teach him
>>or anybody about the golf swing?
>>
>>-Greg
>
> BK is just a fat old toad likely with high blood pressure. Becoming
> increasingly bitter and curmudgeonly.
>
> Listening to Al Gore speaking to congress- about the hoax of Global
> Warming. Why didn't someone ask, "Senator, we've all seen your
> college transcripts, what qualifies you to talk on this subject?"
>
> FYI, he took ONE general science class at Harvard and made a "D." His
> transcript overall was so poor that the US Army would not recognize
> his "degree" and commission him as an officer--thus he was obliged to
> enter the Army as an Enlisted Man-- Now he is lecturing the nation
> on science??
Larry, as long as you're admonishing people for speaking about subjects for
which you believe they have no expertise, don't you think you would be wise
to refrain from speaking on the science of global warming?
Or anything else besides picking your nose?
Randy
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:43:02
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
|
In article <5nq203l5cl4fi71dq1pgfnal7t6muvp4p5@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> On 21 2007 10:17:01 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
> >> bestows THE secret.
> >
> >Yeah.....based on your skill level, what exactly would you teach him
> >or anybody about the golf swing?
> >
> >-Greg
>
> BK is just a fat old toad likely with high blood pressure. Becoming
> increasingly bitter and curmudgeonly.
>
And then Larry went on to say some things to try and deflect from the
fact that Bobby had him dead to rights.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:13:37
From: Dene
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 20, 5:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPIhttp://www.mytpi.com
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
>
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
> perfect very shortly.
>
> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
For the life of me, I cannot figure out what is wrong with this
*particular* post. It's about golf, about his personal quest to
become a better golfer. Dave Lee posts similar stuff about his
quest. All an enjoyable read.
Larry's enrolled with a Titlelist program. Obviously he has the means
to the make the investment. Are Baker and the other anklebiter's
jealous? Whatever their motives are, it's pathetic to watch them turn
Larry's OP into another pissing match.
FWIW, the one and only time I attended a golf school, my instructor
used the same drill that Larry has videoed. It's also a featured
drill in SLAP. There is a lot of merit to it.
-Greg
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:25:46
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 21 2007 10:13:37 -0700, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
>On 20, 5:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com> wrote:
>> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPIhttp://www.mytpi.com
>>
>> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
>> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
>> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
>> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
>> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
>> around a golf course.
>>
>> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
>> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
>> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
>> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
>> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
>> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
>> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
>> miracles.
>>
>> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
>> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>>
>> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
>> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
>> perfect very shortly.
>>
>> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
>For the life of me, I cannot figure out what is wrong with this
>*particular* post. It's about golf, about his personal quest to
>become a better golfer. Dave Lee posts similar stuff about his
>quest. All an enjoyable read.
>
>Larry's enrolled with a Titlelist program. Obviously he has the means
>to the make the investment. Are Baker and the other anklebiter's
>jealous? Whatever their motives are, it's pathetic to watch them turn
>Larry's OP into another pissing match.
>
>FWIW, the one and only time I attended a golf school, my instructor
>used the same drill that Larry has videoed. It's also a featured
>drill in SLAP. There is a lot of merit to it.
>
>-Greg
Thanks Greg,
Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
golfer over the years.
But I knew a few would be genuinely interested in TPI and a late
beginner's progress in his quest to learn golf.
You can find a TPI Certified instructor on http://www.mytpi.com
Thanks again,
Larry
>
>
>
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 00:29:17
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote
>
> Thanks Greg,
>
> Welcome to RSG. As we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
> indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
> self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
> endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
> golfer over the years.
Larry, the "regulars," whoever they are, have targeted you because you have
made boastful statements and failed to accept challenges to prove yourself
capable of living up to your claims of grandeur. They see you as a sham,
and justifiably so. Furthermore, you have egged them on by playing it up to
the hilt. Admit it, Larry -- you love being the center of attention.
So let's call it what it really is. You're a troll, and they're easy bait.
That said, while I have disagreed with a lot of what you've posted here over
the year(s) you've been around, I found this partuclar article (the one that
started this thread) worthy of comment. You'll see my reply to that
original article elsewhere in this thread. I'm a "regular" here, and I
don't think you can justifiably characterize my reks as a hateful attack.
So how do you explain THAT?
Randy
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 17:43:07
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 10:25:46 -0700, larry <larry@deldata.com >
wrote:
>
>Welcome to RSG
Welcome? He's been here longer than you.
>A we see, the regulars here are a hateful bunch--and
>indeed jealous and envious-- the attributes of losers with very low
>self-esteem. Rather than encourage someone striving to improve, they
>endeavor to bring him down. They have run off nearly every serious
>golfer over the years.
>
Then you aren't serious, because you're still spouting the secrets of
the golf world. I haven't seen anyone that has criticized you for
trying to better yourself, only that you say AGAIN that you have THE
secret.
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:15:43
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"...is the source of essentially all their problems."
Golf swing is responsible for impotence, social ineptness, and lousy
fashion sense?
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:10:49
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 10:15:43 -0400, High_Colonic@webtv.net (Miss Anne
Thrope) wrote:
>"...is the source of essentially all their problems."
>
>Golf swing is responsible for impotence, social ineptness, and lousy
>fashion sense?
Amazing. You RSG regulars cannot stop proving my contention that RSG
has become irrelvant for serious golfers. I get a picture of a
domino salon in the ghetto part of town, rheumatic old farts just
sitting around, smoking cigarettes and spitting.
Larry
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:34:22
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:uhp203pjperpujvg09ic4e5u9s2aam22kg@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 2007 10:15:43 -0400, High_Colonic@webtv.net (Miss Anne
> Thrope) wrote:
>
>>"...is the source of essentially all their problems."
>>
>>Golf swing is responsible for impotence, social ineptness, and lousy
>>fashion sense?
>
> Amazing. You RSG regulars cannot stop proving my contention that RSG
> has become irrelvant for serious golfers. I get a picture of a
> domino salon in the ghetto part of town, rheumatic old farts just
> sitting around, smoking cigarettes and spitting.
>
Yet you return for another helping. After a long day at the TGC forums
being abused in much the same way. As you are fond of saying... get help.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 15:14:14
From: Silvio Bierman
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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The guy in the video is late with his forward hip rotation as well, making
the swing look a bit armsy. He also bends his left arm too much for my taste
on his backswing. The swingspeed looks as if he might be late at impact as
well, plenty of time for someone to come around and pick up that nice
looking golf ball.
"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> http://www.mytpi.com
>
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
>
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
> perfect very shortly.
>
> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:04:44
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 15:14:14 +0100, "Silvio Bierman"
<sbierman@jambo-software.nl > wrote:
>The guy in the video is late with his forward hip rotation as well, making
>the swing look a bit armsy. He also bends his left arm too much for my taste
>on his backswing. The swingspeed looks as if he might be late at impact as
>well, plenty of time for someone to come around and pick up that nice
>looking golf ball.
I exaggerated the long stride--which makes that drill even more
difficult. I recognize that I was slightly late-- and I am working on
that. Thanks
Larry
>
>
>
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
>news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>>I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
>> http://www.mytpi.com
>>
>>
>> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
>> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
>> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
>> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
>> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
>> around a golf course.
>>
>> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
>> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
>> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
>> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
>> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
>> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
>> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
>> miracles.
>>
>> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
>> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>>
>> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
>> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
>> perfect very shortly.
>>
>> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 08:54:30
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> http://www.mytpi.com
>
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
>
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:02:43
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 08:54:30 -0500, "the Moderator"
<sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
>news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
>> http://www.mytpi.com
>>
>>
>> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
>> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
>> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
>> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
>> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
>> around a golf course.
>>
>> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
>> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
>> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
>> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
>> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
>> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
>> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
>> miracles.
>>
>> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
>> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
>I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
If you did, you were absolutely correct. My swing (and my physical
conditioning) are a work in progress, of course.
Larry
>
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 14:03:39
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 08:54:30 -0500, "the Moderator"
<sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:
>
>"larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
>news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
>> http://www.mytpi.com
>>
>>
>> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
>> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
>> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
>> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
>> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
>> around a golf course.
>>
>> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
>> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
>> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
>> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
>> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
>> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
>> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
>> miracles.
>>
>> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
>> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
>
>I pointed this out to you when you posted your swing video.
>
LLLLLarrrry cannot learn anything from someone on RSG, he only
bestows THE secret.
Weekly.
___,
\o
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 07:27:03
From: Alan Baker
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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In article <pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com >,
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
> I am enrolled in Titleist Performance Institute---TPI
> http://www.mytpi.com
>
>
> I am doing a 3 month program of series of strenuous exercises to
> strengthen and increase my range of motion. That is integrated with
> unlimited golf swing instruction. I intend to play scratch golf. TPI
> seems to be offering a path for amateurs to acquire the strength,
> flexibiity and coordination necesssary to repeat a good golf swing all
> around a golf course.
Funny...
Last year you told us you didn't care if you reached scratch or not.
It couldn't be because your secret de jour wasn't panning out, could it?
>
> One of the things the TPI gurus told me is that 99% of amateurs are
> LATE. They hit EVERY ball with some weight retained on their back
> foot, and that lagging back is the source of essentially all their
> problems. The clubhead cannot be propelled along or from inside the
> target line to the ball --if any weight is on the back foot.! Lagging
> back is the cause slicing--and thus the reason for the invention of
> all sorts of compensations. The high handicapper's search for
> miracles.
>
> The whole deal is learning to POST on our front foot, making a weight
> shift during the transition from backswing to downswing--
And here we go around again!
>
> Here is a TPI transition drill. Can you do it? I am slightly late
> here, but I am getting closer-- and who will bet that I won't have it
> perfect very shortly.
>
> Learn this or be doomed to hitting it sideways.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
Sorry, but I already hit it straight.
--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone and how he missed
the demo of the iPhone speakerphone.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 14:15:06
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Larry here.
We have never played golf, but we are an accomplished pilot, actor,
subiner, tennis star, raconteur, and we are rich beyond your wildest
dreams. We were watching a late night show on our 105" LCD HDTV and saw an
ad for the Tippy Whipmaster and we rang for Jeeves (his true name is Jesus,
but we do not feel right using that name) to call and purchase it. What a
discovery! It is THE secret to this game, and we will soon be playing
scratch golf. At first it was difficult to use, and we kept hitting
ourselves in our enormous scrotum. But now we have grooved a smooth swing
and we can now hit a 9 iron 150 yards high and straight that lands as soft
as butter.
It is THE secret. Buy one today and see how much better you play! But only
if you are serious about the game.
--------
We were at the range yesterday trying to unravel the reason why our handicap
has not quite reached scratch. Bill the guy who runs the cart that picks up
balls noticed my obvious athleticism and potential and he imparted some
wisdom to us - and Bill spends 8 hours a day watching all the best players
hit balls. It is the weight shift - we were not getting our weight to the
left side. A few swings later and we were hitting a 1 iron 280 yards like a
rocket. The secret gentle readers is that we must get our weight to the
left side.
---------
When we strive for perfection, we must do our research. We have spent the
last night extensively reading the golf literature from the greatest minds
to ever play the game. We have distilled this knowledge and now understand
that the left side MUST be dominant. We have tested this theory by taping
our right hand to our buttocks and swinging ONLY with our left hand. What a
revelation! We believe scratch is right around the corner for us - and it
can be for you too - but ONLY if you are serious about the game.
---------
We have been playing more tennis than golf lately, since we remain a ranked
player and tennis remains our first love. But after drinks with a member -
a former touring pro - we have returned to the links with renewed vigor.
The pro told us the secret - DON'T THINK. JUST SWING. We shot a 59 later
that day which included two hole in ones and a double eagle. We will be
moving back from the red tees to the white tees for the challenge later this
week.
---------
We flew into our airstrip and Rancho Larry this morning after attending a
$10,000-a-plate dinner at the White House. We were concerned about the
pessimism in the room, and delivered an oratory that stiffened the backbones
of all - Dick offered us a position as press secretary but we had to decline
as we knew that Tony was not only one of the best - but he is also
expendable.
As we exited our Ferrari at the Country Club, we noticed that a *major* club
maker was giving free custom fittings and personalized training. This is to
be expected, since they are all members here and some of the best state
amateurs play here (we are rich, and playing golf for money seems so... well
working class). They have a new program TIPPY which has at long last
delivered us the final puzzle piece to becoming a scratch golfer. It turns
out that we need to develop specific types of strength and flexibility -
simply having 6-pack abs, being able to run a 1 minute mile, and crush
walnuts with our thighs isn't what is needed for the complete golfer. We
have embarked upon a 3 month program to rebuild our body as the perfect
golfer. This will allow us to deliver a perfectly timed swing every time.
It turns out that we are LATE in our delivery and we will now CATCH UP!
We have posted our latest swing to YOUTUBE.COM (which when GOOGLE bought out
my controlling interest made me even richer) for your amazement. Can YOU do
it? Learn this or be DOOMED like a illegal immigrant shining our shoes.
---------
We do not know why we continue to share our insights into the game with such
low-life scum who cannot appreciate the GIFT of our words. We have a IQ of
210 and can buy and sell all of you. Your job is to admire and praise us!
Learn your place or LEAVE. WE OWN RSG! Truly! We purchased it on e-bay.
Larry, KING of RSG!
K (ook)
I (n)
N (ews)
G (groups)
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:06:58
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On Wed, 21 2007 14:15:06 GMT, "FredK" <fred.nospam@dec.com > wrote:
>
>Larry here.
>
>We have never played golf, but we are ...
And then there was some more stuff. I didn't read it, did anyone
else? Oh yes, a few did. I forgot that many RSG denizens have
absolutely nothing else to do with their remaining hours on Earth.
Larry
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 18:31:57
From: FredK
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:nep203lpefqvkqtg44fbk37serp7t5jso9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 2007 14:15:06 GMT, "FredK" <fred.nospam@dec.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Larry here.
>>
>>We have never played golf, but we are ...
>
> And then there was some more stuff. I didn't read it, did anyone
> else? Oh yes, a few did. I forgot that many RSG denizens have
> absolutely nothing else to do with their remaining hours on Earth.
>
Larry, you are one of the most humorous guys on the web. It's like clubbing
baby seals. Or fishing with dynamite. You are pure gold.
Oh, you spend probably 1000% more time here and in other forums than I do...
and statistically appear to have many fewer days left on earth than I.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 23:12:13
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Always good for a laugh. Thanks!
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 22:10:53
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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"larry" <larry@deldata.com > wrote in message
news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
Sort of a half-assed Happy Gilmore swing.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 22:15:15
From: BAR
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Frank Ketchum wrote:
> "larry" <larry@deldata.com> wrote in message
> news:pt2103poh2pes7om4fon9q26j8a2aesle2@4ax.com...
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI5eQW5QrQ
>
> Sort of a half-assed Happy Gilmore swing.
>
How much did Larry pay someone to tell him to do that?
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 19:09:38
From: WW
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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Honestly...... I think weight transfer IS THE SECRET to golf if there
is any 1 magic thing. I think the guy in the video is actually late,
he should be planted on the front b4 he moves club down. I consciencly
put all my weight on my rear on backswing (almost lifting the front
foot alittle). When I go to the downswing I move weight to the ball of
my front foot, only then do I start downswing, finishing so I can lift
my R toes up w/ no load at all on that foot. I saw this drill 2 weeks
ago actually on a DVD someone gave me. It's easier to shift w/ woods.
When hitting a pitching wedge or a finese swing it's a lot more
subtle. That is a VERY good tip but I don't like the drill.
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:01:05
From: larry
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 20 2007 19:09:38 -0700, "WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote:
>Honestly...... I think weight transfer IS THE SECRET to golf if there
>is any 1 magic thing. I think the guy in the video is actually late,
>he should be planted on the front b4 he moves club down. I consciencly
>put all my weight on my rear on backswing (almost lifting the front
>foot alittle). When I go to the downswing I move weight to the ball of
>my front foot, only then do I start downswing, finishing so I can lift
>my R toes up w/ no load at all on that foot. I saw this drill 2 weeks
>ago actually on a DVD someone gave me. It's easier to shift w/ woods.
>When hitting a pitching wedge or a finese swing it's a lot more
>subtle. That is a VERY good tip but I don't like the drill.
I was indeed slightly late--but that was a very long stride. The
drill teaches us to backswing WHILE striding forward-- to stretch our
torso muscles by making two opposite moves, the top of our torso
turning away to make the backswing--WHILE our hips are turning toward
the target. This is the "transition" weight shift move that generates
at least 30% more clubhead speed. If you do it sequentially as you
describe, you don't get the dynamic stretching of your oblique torso
muscles-- you don't pop the whip like long hitters do.
This is indeed difficult-- which may explain why less than 1% of
amateurs can do it. In a typical golf club of 600 members only 2 or
3 guys make that move-- and of course they are your club champion and
his peers.
The effortless distance and enhanced accuracy that accrues from
striking the ball AS our weight is posted on our front leg-- is the
difference between high and low handicap golf. That move is
absolutely required to consistently hit enough fairways and greens to
shoot scratch.
The demonstrated swing, slightly late, would probably result in a high
fade. It would hit the green or fairway, but not the middle.
Larry
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:58:05
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: You are LATE
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On 20, 8:48 pm, larry <l...@deldata.com > wrote:
snippitt:
You shoud do the bombsquad golf (BSG) fitting. I think it's only $35K!
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