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Date: 23 Apr 2007 13:26:38
From: WW
Subject: Worst day ever on the golf course!
No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
(17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
(par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.





 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 22:51:53
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
Sounds like the kid gets his intellect from his Mama.



 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 19:50:59
From: WW
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 23, 10:22 pm, "George Hibbard" <g...@perfectimpact.com > wrote:


> The issue for ALL beginners is that the body goes to a different place
> between setup and impact, AND THAT IS WHEN THE SWING IS GOOD. So a beginner
> does not know this and can't measure correctly for it.

Actually, I looked at his swing trying to figure out what the hell he
was doing AND SAW all kind of funky leg action. I told him he needed
to close his stance & make more of an arm swing and less leg & body
stuff. But by that time he was already beaten down.



 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 19:32:59
From: WW
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
> Golf is hard. Very hard for kids, who don't have as much patience for such
> a frustrating game. Sometimes this stupid game gets the best of me even
> now.
>
> He is probably making fundamental errors that a pro could identify and
> fix. Some real improvement might make things fun again. He might not want
> to see it that way, though.


I try telling him simple basics....same things the pro told me. You
can take a horse to water but can't make him drink. If he listened I
could help him. He'll have to come back & want it.



 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 01:15:19
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:26:38 -0700, WW wrote:

> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college course.
> 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down the hill
> in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting green, blows
> over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd hit from 2 he
> tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole (par 3, 100yrs),
> he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3 puts. On 4 he wiffs,
> I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he hit's his 1st good shot.
> Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids soo beat up & it's hurting
> me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9 on go home. I gave him a hug
> & tried to give a few words. It was a quiet ride home. I've tried to
> talk to him, to get him to take lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to
> see him struggle soo bad. He used to love golf & did well several yrs
> ago. Now he's done for ever I think. It bothered me for a good part of
> the morning.

Golf is hard. Very hard for kids, who don't have as much patience for such
a frustrating game. Sometimes this stupid game gets the best of me even
now.

He is probably making fundamental errors that a pro could identify and
fix. Some real improvement might make things fun again. He might not want
to see it that way, though.


  
Date: 23 Apr 2007 22:22:03
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!

"Carbon" <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com > wrote in message
news:462d5a27$0$4907$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:26:38 -0700, WW wrote:
>
>> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
>> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
>> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college course.
>> 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down the hill
>> in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting green, blows
>> over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd hit from 2 he
>> tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole (par 3, 100yrs),
>> he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3 puts. On 4 he wiffs,
>> I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he hit's his 1st good shot.
>> Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids soo beat up & it's hurting
>> me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9 on go home. I gave him a hug
>> & tried to give a few words. It was a quiet ride home. I've tried to
>> talk to him, to get him to take lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to
>> see him struggle soo bad. He used to love golf & did well several yrs
>> ago. Now he's done for ever I think. It bothered me for a good part of
>> the morning.
>
> Golf is hard. Very hard for kids, who don't have as much patience for such
> a frustrating game. Sometimes this stupid game gets the best of me even
> now.
>
> He is probably making fundamental errors that a pro could identify and
> fix. Some real improvement might make things fun again. He might not want
> to see it that way, though.

The issue for ALL beginners is that the body goes to a different place
between setup and impact, AND THAT IS WHEN THE SWING IS GOOD. So a beginner
does not know this and can't measure correctly for it.

The left shoulder is lefter and higher at impact than at setup--BY A LOT..
So it takes the club with it, causing tops and toe impacts - precisely what
the boy suffered AND WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT IT. And without experience where
the golfer consciously or unconsciously makes compensations during his swing
or setup to handle the difference, HE WILL NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO.

The problem is that there are no mainstream teachers or mag articles that
address that reality; an elephant in the living room!

Simple: STAND 2" TOO CLOSE TO THE BALL BEFORE YOU SWING.

George Hibbard
www.perfectimpact.com





 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 08:14:28
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
WW wrote:
> Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago.

Happens all the time to me....no one gives me a hug tho'.

:-(

david


 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 21:20:45
From: Jack Skwaht
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
First, he's 17, and although he may appear tough and independent, he's a
kid. A teenaged kid. Therefore, he knows everything; certainly a lot
more than his dad.

You say he played well a year or so ago, and now, with a taller,
stronger body, what worked then isn't working now. Not your fault. Don't
feel bad. ANd certainly don't stew. Kids will make a lot of dumb choices
about things they do. It's part of growing up. I am a father of two
boys, now in their 30s, who rarely listened to what I suggested, but who
now ask for advice all the time.

Let him be for a while, then at some point you might want to suggest he
take a tip or two from a pro so you can both go out together and enjoy
yourselves. Mention you noticed his struggles last time and that you
think it was probably due to his growth spurt since the last time he
played. "Maybe we can get a tune up together?"




--
Jack Skwaht

“Every time you tell me you don’t know, I’ll kill you.”
Knapp--victim recovery specialist on Kidnapped, holding a gun to the
head of a bad guy who (‘til now) refuses to talk.


 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 15:36:19
From:
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On 23 Apr 2007 13:26:38 -0700, WW <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote:

>No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
>(17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
>ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
>course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
>the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
>green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
>hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
>(par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
>puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
>hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
>soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
>on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
>quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
>lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
>used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
>think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.

You've done what you can. If he would rather quit than take lessons
(even one lesson might help) that's probably what he should do.

Craig

"Nothing matters but the weekend, from a Tuesday point of view."