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Date: 23 Apr 2007 12:49:21
From: WW
Subject: Worst day ever on the golf course!
No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
(17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
(par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.





 
Date: 25 Apr 2007 19:42:49
From: WW
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 24, 8:23 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <no-...@nowhere.com > wrote:

Golf will bring out a person's true self. It will magnify how a
person
handles adversity. When things get hard in life, will your son give
up or
will he work his way through them? This could be a good opportunity
for the
young man to learn some things about life. If he does like golf, he
won't
be done.

I told Andrew (more than once), "If you can beat the little white
ball, every thing else is easy".
Golf really is all about adversity, getting past the bad shot & being
able to persever. I guess he's got other priorities. He just got his
drivers license 3 weeks ago & is putting job applications out. I'll
let it ride.......if he want's to learn he'll have to do it on his own
terms.



  
Date: 25 Apr 2007 22:57:20
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!

"WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote in message
news:1177555369.563934.205940@r30g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

> I told Andrew (more than once), "If you can beat the little white
> ball, every thing else is easy".
> Golf really is all about adversity, getting past the bad shot & being
> able to persever. I guess he's got other priorities. He just got his
> drivers license 3 weeks ago & is putting job applications out. I'll
> let it ride.......if he want's to learn he'll have to do it on his own
> terms.

I have 3 high school age boys and they all thought they wanted to play golf
until they found out how tough the game is. None of the three fell in love
with it.

I tried to make it fun and perhaps failed here.

I can not understand how they do not love it as I can remember how I felt as
a kid in junior high when I first played golf. I fell in love with it.

They have other priorities and likes and dislikes.

It's cool.

If golf is anything, it is a love that can not be forced on anyone.

Otto




 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 17:40:34
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
Humor usually works best in a situation like this. Tell him that
he has a LOFT problem - Lack of Friggin Talent. Make sure
you have fun yourself, and the humor might get to him,
and loosen him up.

Let him know that most everyone has gone through that
at one time, and it's no big deal to suck at golf. It's a tough
game, after all.

Change the rules. There are no rules for beginners! Play a
scramble, let him tee the ball up in the fairway, play stableford
and pick up after double-bogey, etc.

Of course, that's if you can ever get him back out on the golf
course.

Above all, don't give him lessons or tips, and don't let him
think that it's a big deal to you whether he plays poorly or
not.

Try to make it fun somehow. Buy him a beer.




 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 20:23:20
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!

"WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote in message
news:1177357761.550412.121020@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
> course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
> the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
> green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
> hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
> (par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
> puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
> hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn.

Golf will bring out a person's true self. It will magnify how a person
handles adversity. When things get hard in life, will your son give up or
will he work his way through them? This could be a good opportunity for the
young man to learn some things about life. If he does like golf, he won't
be done. Take him to the range and only take a 7 iron. Work on
fundamentals until solid contact happens every time. Try 3/4 swings,
hitting down on the ball. After he gets his confidence built back up he
will want to play again.

When things start to go south on the course, tell him to leave the driver in
the bag.

Good luck.




 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 14:31:13
From: WW
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
Why would you spread a story like this about your son on the internet
> even anonymously?

I shared this story w/ all, I didn't spread it. Maybe just venting,
I'm sure alot of fathers would empathize, and what the fuck....this is
what I get paid to do @ work when I'm bored. In response to the good
doctors post, what bothers me so much is his quitting. I'm sorry to
say he has a habit of quitting when the going gets tough. It must be
something from his mothers side of the family......his uncle (who
lives downstairs from him) is a notorius quitter. That & he so damn
stuborn he will accept help.



 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 09:44:34
From: Bill H.
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 23, 3:26 pm, WW <dirt...@msn.com > wrote:
> > Good. The courses are crowded enough as it is. ;-)

> > First of all, even on a bad day, it should be fun. If you're not
> > having fun, you really should stay home.

> YOUR ALL HEART. The post wasn't really about me having fun, it was
> about my sons issues.

My post was about your son, too. Simply saying that if it's not fun
for him, he shouldn't play. Why spend 4+ hours on a weekend being
miserable?

Then I went on to say that when I started having more fun, I started
playing better. It can be a spiral either way (up or down) depending
on your attitude.

Your son still has some growing up to do. Until he does, he's
probably going to hate golf and you two should maybe find another way
to spend time together.



 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 06:02:57
From: Traincontrol
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 23, 3:49 pm, WW <dirt...@msn.com > wrote:
> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
> course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
> the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
> green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
> hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
> (par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
> puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
> hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
> think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.

Why would you spread a story like this about your son on the internet
even anonymously?

How would your son feel about it if he knew you were talking about him
with a bunch or strangers like this?

Tom



 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 02:01:59
From: iowagolf
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 23, 2:49=EF=BF=BDpm, WW <dirt...@msn.com > wrote:
> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
> course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
> the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
> green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
> hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
> (par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
> puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
> hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. =A0It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
> think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.


Well,let me askyou aquestion here,was it, your kid quitting golf that
bothered you so much? or yourkid quitting on "something" ?


if it is golf that bothered you, then really you should let it go, I
know it's a nice way to spend time with your kid,but its just a game!

However,if it's your kid quitting on something is the issue, then you
have to face your self and say :do I think my kid is a quitter and
is that what bothered me so much? from your post it did not sound that
way though,but if it is the issue; then you have a problem deeper than
golf on you hand!

Golf; however,can really be so harsh on the soul,I am 36 yrs,twice
your kid age< and more > a physician, and I never panicked in an
emergency since I started practicing in the ICUs, and up untill a
month ago was loosing my temper after every bad shot <
unfortunately,there is lots of them >then I came to a decision,either
get rid the temper,or stop playing! well I love golf too much to
stop ,so I got rid of the bad temper,and start singing my favorite
song whenever I play, just repeat it in my head over and
over,suprisingly,my game improved more than I was hoping for.


Good luck with your kid!






 
Date: 24 Apr 2007 08:58:14
From: Blagovist
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
WW wrote:
> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
> course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
> the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
> green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
> hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
> (par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
> puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
> hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
> think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.

I've walked off after three holes before and now I'm scratch - so
there's hope for us all.
I can't really suggest lessons, as they did nothing for me.

Blago



 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 23:00:30
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!

"WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote in message
news:1177357761.550412.121020@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> No I didn't put up a bunch of snowballs.... I'm used to that. My son
> (17) stopped playing last yr, disgusted w/ his play. So he say's he's
> ready to try again. We went out Sat morn early @ a local college
> course. 1st tee he wiffs on 1st ball, 2nd try he rolls it 40 yrds down
> the hill in the woods. He picks up, drops one down near the putting
> green, blows over, doesnt finish. 2nd hole, he wiffs 1 & rolls 2. 2nd
> hit from 2 he tops it, another bad shot, picks up disgusted. 3rd hole
> (par 3, 100yrs), he mishits rolls it 50 yrds,blows his next shot, 3
> puts. On 4 he wiffs, I give him my driver which is an 1" shorter, he
> hit's his 1st good shot. Struggles all the way. Half way thru the kids
> soo beat up & it's hurting me soo much I tell him we'll cut over to 9
> on go home. I gave him a hug & tried to give a few words. It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
> think. It bothered me for a good part of the morning.
>

That is a painful story. However if he used to actually enjoy the game I
suspect that he'll ultimately get back to it. But it will be on his own
schedule (probably many years from now).

I played a lot of golf with my Dad when I was a kid. Hopefully you'll still
be around when the tide changes.

dave




  
Date: 24 Apr 2007 00:30:27
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
If he wants to play more - some kind of team events with other
struggling kid might work well. Anything to take off the pressure of
trying to impress his Dad.


 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 15:26:30
From: WW
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
> Good. The courses are crowded enough as it is. ;-)
>
> First of all, even on a bad day, it should be fun. If you're not
> having fun, you really should stay home.

YOUR ALL HEART. The post wasn't really about me having fun, it was
about my sons issues. I went thru it last yr b4 I got lessons myself.
I used to curse my inconsisteny but have seen the light. I will say
it's VERY hard to enjoy myself when my kids out there bleeding. I
stopped playing yesterday partly for my sake ( I couldn't take it
anymore) & my son was having a miserable time of it. He will have to
mature emotionally b4 he can try it again. Another user made a good
point. He played average several yrs ago but since has been working
out, grew taller & stronger. This has had an impact too. it's hard to
rationalize w/ a teenager.



 
Date: 23 Apr 2007 14:36:48
From: Bill H.
Subject: Re: Worst day ever on the golf course!
On Apr 23, 12:49 pm, WW <dirt...@msn.com > wrote:
> It was a
> quiet ride home. I've tried to talk to him, to get him to take
> lessons, but he's stuborn. It hurt me to see him struggle soo bad. He
> used to love golf & did well several yrs ago. Now he's done for ever I
> think.

Good. The courses are crowded enough as it is. ;-)

First of all, even on a bad day, it should be fun. If you're not
having fun, you really should stay home.

Secondly, golf isn't for everyone. To get any good at it requires a
lot of patience, time, money, and hard work. I gave up on the game
for long stretches, and used to get really upset when I played
poorly. I cursed. I broke clubs. I pouted. But I realized nobody
likes playing with a grouch, or someone who sulks after a bad round.

Eventually I decided that if I couldn't lighten up, I had to quit the
game. So I lightened up and now laugh at my mistakes on the course,
and enjoy the game a lot more than others. Oddly enough, the better
mood I'm in when I'm playing, the better I play. So laughing at my
mistakes and taking it one shot at a time instead of dwelling on the
mis-hits and shanks (which are inevitable) actually helped me
improve.

I don't know if there's a lesson in there or not, but that's been my
experience.