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Date: 15 Jan 2007 22:44:14
From: Simon
Subject: Winter golf
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Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
when we get to ch...
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 14:34:26
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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dugjustdug wrote:
> Everyone should experience putting on frozen greens. Closest thing
> we'll get to playing in the US Open.
You need to try the bald winrter greens around here, especially when
they are dry. Downhill putts have to roll of the green. They are
totally flat and smooth packed clay with no grass. The 11th at a local
muni is totally amazing! You cannot put the ball down (with your hands)
at the back of the green and not have it roll off the front, and about
30 yards down the fairway on a dry winter day!
Of course we also have to walk 15 miles though muck in driving Tstorms,
through woods loaded with crazed fundamentalist redneck survivalists,
to get to the golf course....!
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 12:22:02
From: dugjustdug
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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Everyone should experience putting on frozen greens. Closest thing
we'll get to playing in the US Open.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 15:35:38
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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On 16 Jan 2007 12:22:02 -0800, "dugjustdug" <prestigerealty@yvn.com >
wrote:
>Everyone should experience putting on frozen greens. Closest thing
>we'll get to playing in the US Open.
We did that at my dad's club a couple of winters ago. You had to
underclub by at least one to get the ball to stop rolling on the
green. Otherwise -- BOING!!!!! -- and you'd be 20 yards off the back.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 11:56:30
From: jf-golf
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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What's the problem? it's still golf, nowhere in the rule book does it
state 'warm climes only'.
When I lived in yland we played all year round, when it snowed they
set the course up backwards; we'd play from in front of the green and
aim for a hold cut in the tee box. Or, we'd play cross-country golf -
stand on a tee box and decide to which hole you're playing and off you
go.
There's always the 19th hole at the end of it.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 14:40:20
From: A Brick in the Wall
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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"Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1168929854.180991.23700@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
> good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
> Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
> months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
> the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
> doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
> any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
> during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
> away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
> to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
> There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
> the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
> when we get to ch...
>
Yup -- only the hardcores are out there with me -- it is the goose droppings
that drive me crazy.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 09:42:50
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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In article <1168929854.180991.23700@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
> good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
> Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
> months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
> the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
> doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
> any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
> during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
> away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
> to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
> There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
> the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
> when we get to ch...
I play winter golf, but it is a very different game because of the
conditions. Especially this year, very wet, way over normal and one of
the weather guessers claims last year was the wettest ever.
The rules are basically out the window when the course is staying this
wet. Lift, clean and place is the norm, usually looking for a tuft of
grass somewhere close by.
But it is still a very good day and oft times more enjoyable than in the
middle of summer with the weekend crowds that take over the course. I
get the chance to play a leisurely round enjoying the wildlife that is
all around me.
As to improving my game, I don't think that playing in the winter is
doing that at all. Since the game is so much different because of the
conditions and extra layers of clothing, it isn't the same game which
means that the 'skills' learned to play in the winter don't translate to
a better swing come spring...
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 07:15:53
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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Simon wrote:
> Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
> good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
> Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
> months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
> the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
> doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
> any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
> during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
> away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
> to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
> There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
> the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
> when we get to ch...
Winter? Oh, yeah, I remember that. Gets cold. Snows. Last weekend, my
pal and I showed up at a course in Delaware at 10am for 18 leisurely
holes off winter golf. The course was packed and we couldn't get on
until 12:40. It was no different from playing in August. When we
actually had winter around here, I enjoyed winter golf a lot. Very
peaceful. No one in front of you, no one behind you.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 09:05:20
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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"Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1168929854.180991.23700@l53g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
> good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
> Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
> months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
> the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
> doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
> any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
> during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
> away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
> to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
> There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
> the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
> when we get to ch...
>
Well in Northern Illinois I play whenever there isn't too much snow on the
ground and yes, I enjoy it. It's different but it has it's charms:
No complaints about slow play.
No carts
No bother with tee times
No need to worry much about the score (our official recording season is
limited)
A very different course to play (frozen ponds and fairways and very
different playing characteristics at low temperatures).
There are some bummers:
thin hits really hurt
playing in 4 layers of clothing.
Mud on everything, and no functional ballwashers
Playing the same pin positions most of the winter.
On balance though it is fun to get outside, it's nice to be able to try
things you wouldn't try in the "real" season, and it's nice to avoid the
crowds. I may be unusual, but I don't like heat and humidity. 65 and dry
is perect golf weather, and if I had my choice between 45 and 85, I'd take
45, especially if the 85 comes with humidity. You won't find me looking to
move to the south after retiring. Those guys have it just as bad or
worse -- when the weather is nice for golf, the grass is dead, the prices
are outrageous, the courses are crowded, and the days are too short to play
more than 36 (and sometimes to play that many). During the summer you can
play all you want and it's cheap, but it's too hot. (Maybe it would be
different if I liked riding, but mostly I'd much rather walk,)
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 09:23:50
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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On 15 Jan 2007 22:44:14 -0800, "Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
>good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
>Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
>months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
>the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
>doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
>any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
>during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
>away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
>to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
>There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
>the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
>when we get to ch...
I enjoy winter golf. I don't typically even worry about score -- more
just trying to make a decent swing. We don't get much snow and it
rarely gets below 30* but the courses are usually pretty soggy. You
gotta play cheap balls so that you don't lose the expensive ones
because they pluh.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 15:19:11
From: Bear
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:23:50 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:
>On 15 Jan 2007 22:44:14 -0800, "Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
>>good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>>
>>Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
>>months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
>>the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
>>doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
>>any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
>>during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
>>away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
>>to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>>
>>There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
>>the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
>>when we get to ch...
>
>I enjoy winter golf. I don't typically even worry about score -- more
>just trying to make a decent swing. We don't get much snow and it
>rarely gets below 30* but the courses are usually pretty soggy. You
>gotta play cheap balls so that you don't lose the expensive ones
>because they pluh.
Sounds just like here usually but our balls plug :)
During the winter golf season we play different games than during non
ball plugging season. Rules are relaxed greatly because of the
conditions. If your ball decides that it doesn't want to continue and
takes a subterranean holiday you get to drop...errr place your ball at
the closest dryish spot and keep going. It is just good to get out and
walk and swing.
Last time out our only companions on the course were the deer and the
eagles. On the local muni there is a young pair of bald eagles that
have built and are continually rebuilding their nest in a tree that is
between the 4th and 6th green. Due to the gazillion wind storms we
have had there is no shortage of branches for them to collect and use
so we get to watch as they land, grab a branch and the fly off to the
nest. Been able to get to within 10 to 15 feet of them on the ground.
One of these days I gotta bring a camera.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 10:23:43
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:19:11 GMT, Bear <bearlysane@XShawX.ca > wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:23:50 -0500, John van der Pflum
><nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jan 2007 22:44:14 -0800, "Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
>>>good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>>>
>>>Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
>>>months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
>>>the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
>>>doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
>>>any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
>>>during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
>>>away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
>>>to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>>>
>>>There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
>>>the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
>>>when we get to ch...
>>
>>I enjoy winter golf. I don't typically even worry about score -- more
>>just trying to make a decent swing. We don't get much snow and it
>>rarely gets below 30* but the courses are usually pretty soggy. You
>>gotta play cheap balls so that you don't lose the expensive ones
>>because they pluh.
>
>
>Sounds just like here usually but our balls plug :)
>
>During the winter golf season we play different games than during non
>ball plugging season. Rules are relaxed greatly because of the
>conditions. If your ball decides that it doesn't want to continue and
>takes a subterranean holiday you get to drop...errr place your ball at
>the closest dryish spot and keep going. It is just good to get out and
>walk and swing.
>
>Last time out our only companions on the course were the deer and the
>eagles. On the local muni there is a young pair of bald eagles that
>have built and are continually rebuilding their nest in a tree that is
>between the 4th and 6th green. Due to the gazillion wind storms we
>have had there is no shortage of branches for them to collect and use
>so we get to watch as they land, grab a branch and the fly off to the
>nest. Been able to get to within 10 to 15 feet of them on the ground.
>One of these days I gotta bring a camera.
I'd love to see a picture of that nest. I've only seen one nest in
the wild in NC. It was absolutely huge.
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 16:27:51
From: Bear
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:23:43 -0500, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:19:11 GMT, Bear <bearlysane@XShawX.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:23:50 -0500, John van der Pflum
>><nowhammymyspammy@bite.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15 Jan 2007 22:44:14 -0800, "Simon" <hancock_simon@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
>>>>good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>>>>
>>>>Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
>>>>months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
>>>>the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
>>>>doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
>>>>any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
>>>>during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
>>>>away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
>>>>to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>>>>
>>>>There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
>>>>the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
>>>>when we get to ch...
>>>
>>>I enjoy winter golf. I don't typically even worry about score -- more
>>>just trying to make a decent swing. We don't get much snow and it
>>>rarely gets below 30* but the courses are usually pretty soggy. You
>>>gotta play cheap balls so that you don't lose the expensive ones
>>>because they pluh.
>>
>>
>>Sounds just like here usually but our balls plug :)
>>
>>During the winter golf season we play different games than during non
>>ball plugging season. Rules are relaxed greatly because of the
>>conditions. If your ball decides that it doesn't want to continue and
>>takes a subterranean holiday you get to drop...errr place your ball at
>>the closest dryish spot and keep going. It is just good to get out and
>>walk and swing.
>>
>>Last time out our only companions on the course were the deer and the
>>eagles. On the local muni there is a young pair of bald eagles that
>>have built and are continually rebuilding their nest in a tree that is
>>between the 4th and 6th green. Due to the gazillion wind storms we
>>have had there is no shortage of branches for them to collect and use
>>so we get to watch as they land, grab a branch and the fly off to the
>>nest. Been able to get to within 10 to 15 feet of them on the ground.
>>One of these days I gotta bring a camera.
>
>I'd love to see a picture of that nest. I've only seen one nest in
>the wild in NC. It was absolutely huge.
I'll try and remember to take a decent camera with me next time out.
Usually throw the old 2 megapixel, no zoom camera in my bag and have
tried to take a couple of pics but none really turned out worth crap.
Big nest, big bird... not the yellow one but a big bird none the less.
On sunny days (rare around these parts lately) I'll sit on my deck and
watch as they ride the thermals to great heights and glide over
to...well where ever they go. Quite a sight watching 10 or so circling
higher and higher.
Closest I've been to an eagle was golden eagle that had been hit by a
semi about 60 km north of Campbell River. It broke a wing (wonder what
the truck looked like:) ) and some how a couple of loggers returning
to CR managed to get it into the back of their back of their pickup.
The pickup had a canopy with tinted glass so you had to press your
face against the glass to see him/her. As soon as the eagle saw you it
would attack the glass with beak and talons. It was huge. Wingspan was
as big as the back of the pickup and it wasn't a small truck. The bird
must have been stunned when the guys got it in the back 'cause there
is no way you could get close to it without losing a pint or two if it
wasn't.
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Date: 16 Jan 2007 05:01:16
From: SKIPPER
Subject: Re: Winter golf
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Simon wrote:
> Does anyone here really enjoy winter golf? Those people who live with
> good weather all year shouldn't reply - I hate you.
>
> Even though our links course is perfectly playable through all 12
> months, it's normally cold, even windier than normal and any shot from
> the rough is horrible. The speed of the greens is so different, that it
> doesn't really help my short game feel.I don't think it does my swing
> any good. Part of me thinks it's good to keep things ticking over
> during the winter, but there's another part that wants to put the clubs
> away for a few months. I go out every few weeks for a game, but I try
> to consider it as fresh air and exercise and not worry about the game.
>
> There are some guys who play 2 or 3 times a week through the worst of
> the conditions. I can't say I notice any improvement in their games
> when we get to ch...
mid 70s and light SW breeze yesterday...I really hate it when it gets
so cold I have to wear pants instead of shorts...
-PA
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