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Date: 07 Sep 2006 16:11:41
From: Ben.
Subject: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about shooting 78: "You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two over." Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for her tomorrow...who knows.
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 02:29:36
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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bill-o wrote: > You're seriously wacked F, or is that seriouly F'ed whack(o)? Whatever makes you happy. F
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 15:59:17
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 11-Sep-2006, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: > Whatever makes you happy. F Being -- bill-o A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 16:21:02
From: greenkeeper
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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In message <me46g2lhg8qfk9dhk5m87o1pup8l68cq86@4ax.com >, multi <multi@asm.org > writes >On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:44:16 +0100, greenkeeper ><greenkeeper@xxxalancampbell.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>In message <glv3g21r9rpq6tfjdu1tibp5q0c73lpgsq@4ax.com>, multi >><multi@asm.org> writes >>>Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. I'll bet that 90% of the >>>Americans who tuned in, did it to see her. I'll bet that 0% of >>>anybody who tuned in gave a crap who the announcers were. I wonder >>>how much *they* were paid? How much do you think the Bank of Scotland >>>paid Jack to miss the cut at St. Andrews last year, which just >>>happened to be when they literally printed money with his picture on >>>it? >> >> >>Obviously didn't work too well, The Bank of Scotland didn't print any >>notes to do with golf. It was The Royal Bank of Scotland. Kind of like >>mixing up Coke and Pepsi, just because they have cola in their name. > >I have disgraced myself and my ancestors. My shame is more than I can >bear. Will you do me the honor of striking off my head after I >disembowel myself? Surely ten lashes with a birch twig would be punishment enough!! Just back from the annual golf weekend at Alnmouth. -- alan
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 08:44:16
From: greenkeeper
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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In message <glv3g21r9rpq6tfjdu1tibp5q0c73lpgsq@4ax.com >, multi <multi@asm.org > writes >Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. I'll bet that 90% of the >Americans who tuned in, did it to see her. I'll bet that 0% of >anybody who tuned in gave a crap who the announcers were. I wonder >how much *they* were paid? How much do you think the Bank of Scotland >paid Jack to miss the cut at St. Andrews last year, which just >happened to be when they literally printed money with his picture on >it? Obviously didn't work too well, The Bank of Scotland didn't print any notes to do with golf. It was The Royal Bank of Scotland. Kind of like mixing up Coke and Pepsi, just because they have cola in their name. -- alan
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 12:12:19
From: multi
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:44:16 +0100, greenkeeper <greenkeeper@xxxalancampbell.demon.co.uk > wrote: >In message <glv3g21r9rpq6tfjdu1tibp5q0c73lpgsq@4ax.com>, multi ><multi@asm.org> writes >>Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. I'll bet that 90% of the >>Americans who tuned in, did it to see her. I'll bet that 0% of >>anybody who tuned in gave a crap who the announcers were. I wonder >>how much *they* were paid? How much do you think the Bank of Scotland >>paid Jack to miss the cut at St. Andrews last year, which just >>happened to be when they literally printed money with his picture on >>it? > > >Obviously didn't work too well, The Bank of Scotland didn't print any >notes to do with golf. It was The Royal Bank of Scotland. Kind of like >mixing up Coke and Pepsi, just because they have cola in their name. I have disgraced myself and my ancestors. My shame is more than I can bear. Will you do me the honor of striking off my head after I disembowel myself?
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 06:53:53
From: David Sneddon
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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greenkeeper wrote: > In message <glv3g21r9rpq6tfjdu1tibp5q0c73lpgsq@4ax.com>, multi > <multi@asm.org> writes > >> Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. I'll bet that 90% of the >> Americans who tuned in, did it to see her. I'll bet that 0% of >> anybody who tuned in gave a crap who the announcers were. I wonder >> how much *they* were paid? How much do you think the Bank of Scotland >> paid Jack to miss the cut at St. Andrews last year, which just >> happened to be when they literally printed money with his picture on >> it? > > > > Obviously didn't work too well, The Bank of Scotland didn't print any > notes to do with golf. It was The Royal Bank of Scotland. Kind of like > mixing up Coke and Pepsi, just because they have cola in their name. Alan - don't you miss the old Clydesdale, National Commercial, Linen Banks etc - all printing their own notes in such a variety of designs and colours??? :-) :-) David
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 22:30:37
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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> > Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. > > Why? Publicity. They got more fans to attend and watch on television as well.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 18:10:59
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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multi wrote: > I love how people morph their speculations into solid fact. "It > occurred to me, so it must be true." Irony meter off the charts....we're heading for full ironic meltdown....thanks, Multi, you broke the irony meter. > Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. Why? > > But yeah, you're right, she belongs there. > > You must have me mixed up with someone else. I never said she > belonged there <snip> Finally something we agree on.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 17:01:47
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Wie - the good news!
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Michel Oui wrote: > Fairway wrote: > > >>From the BBC: > > > > Wie has now missed the cut in nine of her 10 men's appearances and > > European Tour boss George O'Grady said he would need "a lot of > > persuading" before she was invited back to a tour event. > > Some folks are finally waking up and smelling the coffee. That > is good news. Well, after that performance, I don't blame him. But if she missed by 2 or 4 shots like she has before, you think he'd be saying that? I doubt it.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 15:08:13
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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> Also, no one has mentioned here that she is sponsored by Omega and that > the Euro Tour allows, but doesn't publicize or encourage, appearance > fees on the actual continent - usually reserved for the off-continent > tourneys - Dubai and the like. Anyway, this reeks to me of a > promotional appearance, nothing more. I mean, she lives in Hawaii - > why some random Euro event in Switzerland? Money and contractual > obligations. So what? You think Tiger would play the Buick events if he wasn't sponsored by them?
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 11:25:10
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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multi wrote: > On 8 Sep 2006 10:01:55 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Also, no one has mentioned here that she is sponsored by Omega and that > >the Euro Tour allows, but doesn't publicize or encourage, appearance > >fees on the actual continent - usually reserved for the off-continent > >tourneys - Dubai and the like. Anyway, this reeks to me of a > >promotional appearance, nothing more. I mean, she lives in Hawaii - > >why some random Euro event in Switzerland? Money and contractual > >obligations. > > Yes, we wouldn't want to sully a professional golf tour with people > who play for money. The least they could do is make her sleep in her > car, like Hagen. There is a difference between "playing" for sponsorship/appearance money and "competing" for prize money. She is very clearly in the category of the former in this instance. Omega? Random event in Switzerland? Even the announcers pondered how much she was paid to appear. But yeah, you're right, she belongs there. DFL/15 over par for two days in a random Euro event played on a 6800 yard course in the Alps (10% altitude factor = ~ 6200 yds) is a stellar showing doing her psyche a world of good. I'll say it again: Most talented 16 year old golfer on the planet, male or female? Probably. Ridiculous phenom? Of course. Ready for the bigs? 78/79 says no.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 16:48:44
From: multi
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 8 Sep 2006 11:25:10 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote: >multi wrote: >> On 8 Sep 2006 10:01:55 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >Also, no one has mentioned here that she is sponsored by Omega and that >> >the Euro Tour allows, but doesn't publicize or encourage, appearance >> >fees on the actual continent - usually reserved for the off-continent >> >tourneys - Dubai and the like. Anyway, this reeks to me of a >> >promotional appearance, nothing more. I mean, she lives in Hawaii - >> >why some random Euro event in Switzerland? Money and contractual >> >obligations. >> >> Yes, we wouldn't want to sully a professional golf tour with people >> who play for money. The least they could do is make her sleep in her >> car, like Hagen. > >There is a difference between "playing" for sponsorship/appearance >money and "competing" for prize money. She is very clearly in the >category of the former in this instance. I love how people morph their speculations into solid fact. "It occurred to me, so it must be true." > Omega? Random event in >Switzerland? Even the announcers pondered how much she was paid to >appear. Whatever they paid her, she's worth it. I'll bet that 90% of the Americans who tuned in, did it to see her. I'll bet that 0% of anybody who tuned in gave a crap who the announcers were. I wonder how much *they* were paid? How much do you think the Bank of Scotland paid Jack to miss the cut at St. Andrews last year, which just happened to be when they literally printed money with his picture on it? > But yeah, you're right, she belongs there. You must have me mixed up with someone else. I never said she belonged there, I just said I don't blame her for accepting either the invitation or the money. But let me know when they print $5 bills with Michelle's picture on them, and sell them for $10.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 10:06:07
From:
Subject: Re: Wie - the good news!
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Fairway wrote: > >From the BBC: > > Teenager Michelle Wie crashed out of the European Masters after > finishing 15 over for two round at Crans-sur-Sierre. > > The 16-year-old again hit some wild shots and ran up successive double > bogeys in a 79 that left her three adrift at the bottom of the field. > > Playing partner Nick Dougherty did not fare much better, suffering a > quadruple bogey in a 72 for a nine-over total. > > cel Siem and Bradley Dredge shared the early halfway lead at seven > under, with Sergio Garcia a later starter. > > Wie was at a loss to explain her wayward driving and said: "I didn't > even know what sport I was playing out there." > > She dismissed suggestions that she did not warrant a place on the > leading Europeam men's tour. > > She said: "You can't learn to play against men by playing against > women. This doesn't scare me off it makes me more determined." > > The Hawaiian now intends to work with coaching guru David Leadbetter > ahead of an appearance on the men's tour in America. > > "I think I know what to work on," she said. "But I'm looking forward to > wider fairways and bigger greens!" Interesting comment because of Sergio's earlier in the week. It seems like this European course was not well suited to her game. I have no problem with Wie playing in "men's" tournaments, but she and her entourage should be more selective about the events that they choose. This choice didn't work.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 18:27:40
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: Wie - the good news!
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<rastafarians2002@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157735167.140505.49110@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Interesting comment because of Sergio's earlier in the week. It seems > like this European course was not well suited to her game. I have no > problem with Wie playing in "men's" tournaments, but she and her > entourage should be more selective about the events that they choose. > This choice didn't work. Given that she's had a considerable break, and mentioned in an interview having just started school again, I wonder if it may be in part a case of her game just not being in good shape at the moment. I haven't seen any of the coverage, but a couple reports of atrocious play sound like she was just 'off' the past two days. hope she can get it together next week - she's going to get a lot more attention at the 84 Lumber, with its 7500+ yards, and a course that long is going to be more of a challenge than maybe any of the events she's yet played against the guys. DJJ
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 10:01:55
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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Larry Bud wrote: > Ben. wrote: > > Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about > > shooting 78: > > > > "You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two > > over." > > > > Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for > > her tomorrow...who knows. > > What do you want her to say? If she isn't going to think positive, she > might as well flip burgers. I don't care what she says up or down, I found it funny; and are you telling me if your buddy told you "I would have only shot 17 over if I didn't have to play the par threes today!" you wouldn't laugh him out of the grill room? Whatebber... Also, no one has mentioned here that she is sponsored by Omega and that the Euro Tour allows, but doesn't publicize or encourage, appearance fees on the actual continent - usually reserved for the off-continent tourneys - Dubai and the like. Anyway, this reeks to me of a promotional appearance, nothing more. I mean, she lives in Hawaii - why some random Euro event in Switzerland? Money and contractual obligations.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 10:39:42
From: multi
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 8 Sep 2006 10:01:55 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote: >Also, no one has mentioned here that she is sponsored by Omega and that >the Euro Tour allows, but doesn't publicize or encourage, appearance >fees on the actual continent - usually reserved for the off-continent >tourneys - Dubai and the like. Anyway, this reeks to me of a >promotional appearance, nothing more. I mean, she lives in Hawaii - >why some random Euro event in Switzerland? Money and contractual >obligations. Yes, we wouldn't want to sully a professional golf tour with people who play for money. The least they could do is make her sleep in her car, like Hagen.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 07:12:35
From: Fairway
Subject: Wie - the good news!
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>From the BBC: Teenager Michelle Wie crashed out of the European Masters after finishing 15 over for two round at Crans-sur-Sierre. The 16-year-old again hit some wild shots and ran up successive double bogeys in a 79 that left her three adrift at the bottom of the field. Playing partner Nick Dougherty did not fare much better, suffering a quadruple bogey in a 72 for a nine-over total. cel Siem and Bradley Dredge shared the early halfway lead at seven under, with Sergio Garcia a later starter. Wie was at a loss to explain her wayward driving and said: "I didn't even know what sport I was playing out there." She dismissed suggestions that she did not warrant a place on the leading Europeam men's tour. She said: "You can't learn to play against men by playing against women. This doesn't scare me off it makes me more determined." The Hawaiian now intends to work with coaching guru David Leadbetter ahead of an appearance on the men's tour in America. "I think I know what to work on," she said. "But I'm looking forward to wider fairways and bigger greens!" Wie has now missed the cut in nine of her 10 men's appearances and European Tour boss George O'Grady said he would need "a lot of persuading" before she was invited back to a tour event. "She is a phenomenal talent that has not played to her potential. We can see the interest it created but I think it's time to evaluate and take stock."
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 19:13:58
From: tiggerspalebride
Subject: Re: Wie - the good news!
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In article <1157724755.460522.159430@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com > "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: With a comment like "You can't learn to play against men by playing against women." should certainly get her a lot of support and even more friends on the LPGA tour she should be playing on. Makes it sound like no one on the women's tour is worth the clubs they pick up. Open her yap with these comments might seal the deal on her never being welcome back with the women but then again, they need the coverage so they'll take her.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 14:21:18
From: Michel Oui
Subject: Re: Wie - the good news!
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Fairway wrote: >>From the BBC: > > Wie has now missed the cut in nine of her 10 men's appearances and > European Tour boss George O'Grady said he would need "a lot of > persuading" before she was invited back to a tour event. Some folks are finally waking up and smelling the coffee. That is good news.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 04:53:34
From: Fairway
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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David wrote: > I watched her play yesterday. It was simply awful. They showed her > live from the 13th hole onwards and she did not hit a single shot that > I could say was good. As a matter of fact, she struck the ball > extremely poorly and was lucky to be only +6 at the end of the day. I > did not read any post-round interviews. I hope that she did not say > she putted well, because she did not. Her bunker play was attrocious, > too. It=B4s an insult to sportsmanship to let her play in men=B4s contests, an insult to her partner and - yes, insult to everyone. Making golf a farce. I don=B4t like it. Let the silly little bitch play on her own playground. F
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 04:47:39
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 8-Sep-2006, "Fairway" <arminsson@yahoo.com > wrote: > Itīs an insult to sportsmanship to let her play in menīs contests, an > insult to her partner and - yes, insult to everyone. Making golf a > farce. I donīt like it. Let the silly little bitch play on her own > playground You're seriously wacked F, or is that seriouly F'ed whack(o)? -- bill-o A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 06:26:23
From: Mark Holmes
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is advising you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. k Holmes ion, IL
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 06:08:51
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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"k Holmes" <kinillinois@webtv.net > wrote in message news:17630-4501535F-27@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is advising > you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. > > k Holmes > ion, IL > LOL! k Holmes from ion Illinois had an epiphany. Post something like she is actually going to read it, and validate it with your hometown. That makes this worthy of the post of the year!!
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 08:45:50
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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In article <EXdMg.3637$TA5.1653@fed1read09 >, "Chris S" <golfzlf@coxyahoo.com > wrote: > "k Holmes" <kinillinois@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:17630-4501535F-27@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > > Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is advising > > you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. > > > > k Holmes > > ion, IL > > > > LOL! k Holmes from ion Illinois had an epiphany. Post something like > she is actually going to read it, and validate it with your hometown. That > makes this worthy of the post of the year!! Chris, you don't understand the importance of his post. Since he is from the 'hub of the universe' as the mayor describes it, it is obvious she was just waiting for his post... ;-)
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 07:50:38
From: Chris S
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydparsons@mac.com > wrote in message news:lloydparsons-A49E38.08455008092006@individual.net... > In article <EXdMg.3637$TA5.1653@fed1read09>, > "Chris S" <golfzlf@coxyahoo.com> wrote: > >> "k Holmes" <kinillinois@webtv.net> wrote in message >> news:17630-4501535F-27@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... >> > Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is >> > advising >> > you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. >> > >> > k Holmes >> > ion, IL >> > >> >> LOL! k Holmes from ion Illinois had an epiphany. Post something >> like >> she is actually going to read it, and validate it with your hometown. >> That >> makes this worthy of the post of the year!! > > Chris, you don't understand the importance of his post. Since he is > from the 'hub of the universe' as the mayor describes it, it is obvious > she was just waiting for his post... ;-) I've been to ion Illinois many times. Not worthy of publicizing that one is from there! LOL! Enjoy your day.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 07:43:56
From: Lloyd Parsons
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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In article <17630-4501535F-27@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net >, kinillinois@webtv.net (k Holmes) wrote: > Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is advising > you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. > > k Holmes > ion, IL Wow! This is the first time I've seen a post from my neck of the woods. And since I'm from Herrin, I see we disagree on this too! ;-) Lloyd
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 11:59:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 06:26:23 -0500, kinillinois@webtv.net (k Holmes) wrote: >Michelle Wie, would you please dry up and blow away. Whoever is advising >you on your golfing career decisions is totally clueless. As long as people like you are responding to her, the advertisers win.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 04:25:20
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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> > Much respect for the game she does have - which is obviously > > considerable. The skills are not in question; the choice of venues is > > definitely suspect. > > > > I agree - at this point if she ever made a cut in a men's tourney, it would > seem more of a fluke rather than a real accomplishment. It too bad - but > also too late. Yeah, cause at 16, she's obviously washed up.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 04:24:42
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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Ben. wrote: > Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about > shooting 78: > > "You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two > over." > > Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for > her tomorrow...who knows. What do you want her to say? If she isn't going to think positive, she might as well flip burgers.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 19:08:13
From: tiggerspalebride
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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In article <1157714682.680199.128840@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com > "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com > wrote: Maybe she could do that burger flipping in a boys school somewhere. If she measures up, she could call that making the cut.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 19:49:59
From: David
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 8 Sep 2006 04:24:42 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com > wrote: > >Ben. wrote: >> Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about >> shooting 78: >> >> "You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two >> over." >> >> Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for >> her tomorrow...who knows. > >What do you want her to say? If she isn't going to think positive, she >might as well flip burgers. Well, I could say to her what my buddies would say to me after shooting rounds where two triple bogies kept me from being under par: "Golf is 18 holes, not 16..get the f--k over it!" David
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 12:22:49
From: David
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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On 7 Sep 2006 16:11:41 -0700, "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote: >Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about >shooting 78: > >"You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two >over." > >Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for >her tomorrow...who knows. I watched her play yesterday. It was simply awful. They showed her live from the 13th hole onwards and she did not hit a single shot that I could say was good. As a matter of fact, she struck the ball extremely poorly and was lucky to be only +6 at the end of the day. I did not read any post-round interviews. I hope that she did not say she putted well, because she did not. Her bunker play was attrocious, too. David
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 17:33:23
From: Ben.
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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spring wrote: > When will the circus show end? And now she wants to get on the Ryder Cup > team.... > Please MW go win a junior or LPGA tournament and leave the PGA alone Too late for the juniors, but I agree; she hasn't proven herself on courses just north of 6000 yards - there is no reason aside from Nike dollars for her to continually subject herself to these drubbings by men on both sides of The Pond. Speaking of short courses, this course they are playing is 6800 and change - then knock 10% off for altitude, and she should be right at home. As an aside, she just looked awful out there today. Drivers pulled dead left, par three tee shots that would make "Ben Hogan puke", I saw a couple of green side sand shots skanked over the green completely, a ginched putt from three feet that didn't even sniff the hole, miserable pitches/half wedges. I don't think this round was indicative of her ability on her best day, but it is indicative of how she performs in the big picture on the PGA/Euro/Nationwide Tours. Much respect for the game she does have - which is obviously considerable. The skills are not in question; the choice of venues is definitely suspect.
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Date: 08 Sep 2006 01:10:27
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157675603.031343.223400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > spring wrote: > > > When will the circus show end? And now she wants to get on the Ryder Cup > > team.... > > Please MW go win a junior or LPGA tournament and leave the PGA alone > > Too late for the juniors, but I agree; she hasn't proven herself on > courses just north of 6000 yards - there is no reason aside from Nike > dollars for her to continually subject herself to these drubbings by > men on both sides of The Pond. Speaking of short courses, this course > they are playing is 6800 and change - then knock 10% off for altitude, > and she should be right at home. > > As an aside, she just looked awful out there today. Drivers pulled > dead left, par three tee shots that would make "Ben Hogan puke", I saw > a couple of green side sand shots skanked over the green completely, a > ginched putt from three feet that didn't even sniff the hole, miserable > pitches/half wedges. I don't think this round was indicative of her > ability on her best day, but it is indicative of how she performs in > the big picture on the PGA/Euro/Nationwide Tours. > > Much respect for the game she does have - which is obviously > considerable. The skills are not in question; the choice of venues is > definitely suspect. > I agree - at this point if she ever made a cut in a men's tourney, it would seem more of a fluke rather than a real accomplishment. It too bad - but also too late. dave
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Date: 07 Sep 2006 20:13:41
From: spring
Subject: Re: Wie's response to today's score (sperler)
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When will the circus show end? And now she wants to get on the Ryder Cup team.... Please MW go win a junior or LPGA tournament and leave the PGA alone Bill "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:1157670701.443833.128190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Shot 78 on the Euro Tour. In response to one of the questions about > shooting 78: > > "You know, if you think about it, minus the par threes, I only shot two > over." > > Sure...two over for 14 holes. Maybe they'll "minus" the par threes for > her tomorrow...who knows. >
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