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Date: 17 Nov 2006 15:17:15
From: larry
Subject: Why you should fear Islam
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SUICIDE KILLERS
By - Pierre Rehov, documentary filmmaker
On July 15, MSNBC's "Connected" program discussed the July 7th London
attacks.
One of the guests was Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed
six documentaries on the intifada by going undercover in the
Palestinian areas. Pierre's upcoming film, "Suicide Killers," is
based on interviews that he conducted with the families of suicide
bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it.
Pierre agreed to a request for a Q&A interview here about his work on
the new film.
Q - What inspired you to produce "Suicide Killers," your seventh
film?
A - I started working with victims of suicide attacks to make a film
on PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) when I became fascinated with
the personalities of those who had committed those crimes, as they
were described again and again by their victims. Especially the fact
that suicide bombers are all smiling one second before they blow
themselves up.
Q - Why is this film especially important?
A - People don't understand the devastating culture behind this
unbelievable phenomenon. My film is not politically correct because it
addresses the real problem, showing the real face of Islam. It points
the finger against a culture of hatred in which the uneducated are
brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to
kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God whose word, as
transmitted by other men, has become their only certitude.
Q - What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know
that other experts do not know?
A - I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the
level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a
dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior.
In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure
frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness
or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between
men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who
are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure
anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no
coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated
subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot
satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil.
Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on Earth will
finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids,
killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes
their only solution.
Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their
families and survivors of suicide bombings?
A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing
with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own
logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so
convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure
craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say,
is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my
son is dead." Her son had become a shaheed, a tyr, which for her
was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a
doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.
This system of values works completely backwards since their
interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are
facing people whose only dream, only achievement goal is to fulfill
what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a Shaheed or the
family of a shaheed.
They don't see the innocent being killed; they only see the impure
that they have to destroy.
Q - You say suicide bombers experience a moment of absolute power,
beyond punishment. Is death the ultimate power?
A - Not death as an end, but death as a door opener to the after life.
They are seeking the reward that God has promised them. They work for
God, the ultimate authority, above all human laws. They therefore
experience this single delusional second of absolute power, where
nothing bad can ever happen to them, since they become God's sword.
Q - Is there a suicide bomber personality profile? Describe the
psychopathology.
A - Generally kids between 15 and 25 bearing a lot of complexes,
generally inferiority complexes. They must have been fed with
religion. They usually have a lack of developed personality. Usually
they are impressionable idealists. In the western world they would
easily have become drug addicts, but not criminals. Interestingly,
they are not criminals since they don't see good and evil the same way
that we do. If they had been raised in an Occidental culture, they
would have hated violence. But they constantly battle against their
own death anxiety. The only solution to this deep-seated pathology is
to be willing to die and be rewarded in the afterlife in Paradise.
Q - Are suicide bombers principally motivated by religious conviction?
A - Yes, it is their only conviction. They don't act to gain a
territory or to find freedom or even dignity. They only follow Allah,
the supreme judge, and what He tells them to do.
Q - Do all Muslims interpret jihad and tyrdom in the same way?
A - All Muslim believers believe that, ultimately, Islam will prevail
on earth.They believe this is the only true religion and there is no
room, in their mind, for interpretation. The main difference between
moderate Muslims and extremists is that moderate Muslims don't think
they will see the absolute victory of Islam during their lifetime,
therefore they respect other beliefs. The extremists believe that the
fulfillment of the Prophecy of Islam and ruling the entire world as
described in the Koran, is for today. Each victory of Bin Laden
convinces 20 million moderate Muslims to become extremists.
Q - Describe the culture that manufactures suicide bombers.
A - Oppression, lack of freedom, brain washing, organized poverty,
placing God in charge of daily life, total separation between men and
women, forbidding sex, giving women no power whatsoever, and placing
men in charge of family honor, which is mainly connected to their
women's behavior.
Q - What socio-economic forces support the perpetuation of suicide
bombings?
A - Muslim charity is usually a cover for supporting terrorist
organizations. But one has also to look at countries like Pakistan,
Saudi Arabia and Iran, which are also supporting the same
organizations through different networks. The ironic thing in the case
of Palestinian suicide bombers is that most of the money comes through
financial support from the Occidental world, donated to a culture that
utterly hates and rejects the West (mainly symbolized by Israel).
Q - Is there a financial support network for the families of the
suicide bombers? If so, who is paying them and how does that affect
the decision?
A - There used to be a financial incentive in the days of Saddam
Hussein ($25,000 per family) and Yasser Arafat (smaller amounts), but
these days are gone. It is a mistake to believe that these families
would sacrifice their children for money. Although, the children
themselves who are very attached to their families, might find in this
financial support another reason to become suicide bombers. It is like
buying a life insurance policy and then committing suicide.
Q - Why are so many suicide bombers young men?
A - As discussed above, libido is paramount. Also ego, because this is
a sure way to become a hero. The shaheeds are the cowboys or the
firemen of Islam. Shaheed is a positively reinforced value in this
culture. And what kid has never dreamed of becoming a cowboy or a
fireman?
Q - What role does the U.N. play in the terrorist equation?
A - The U.N. is in the hands of Arab countries and third world or
ex-communist countries. Their hands are tied. The U.N. has condemned
Israel more than any other country in the world, including the regime
of Castro, Idi Amin or Kaddahfi. By behaving this way, the U.N. leaves
a door open by not openly condemning terrorist organizations. In
addition, through UNRWA, the U.N. is directly tied to terror
organizations such as Hamas, representing 65 percent of their
apparatus in the so-called Palestinian refugee camps. As a support to
Arab countries, the U.N. has maintained Palestinians in camps with the
hope to "return" into Israel for more than 50 years, therefore making
it impossible to settle those populations, which still live in
deplorable conditions. Four hundred million dollars are spent every
year, mainly financed by U.S. taxes, to support 23,000 employees of
UNRWA, many of whom belong to terrorist organizations (see Congressman
Eric Cantor on this subject, and in my film "Hosta
ges of Hatred").
Q - You say that a suicide bomber is a 'stupid bomb and a st bomb'
simultaneously. Explain what you mean.
A - Unlike an electronic device, a suicide killer has until the last
second the capacity to change his mind. In reality, he is nothing but
a platform representing interests which are not his, but he doesn't
know it.
Q - How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and
terrorism in general?
A - Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this
culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a
new form of Naziism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in
the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with
the German people.
Q - Are these men traveling outside their native areas in large
numbers? Based on your research, would you predict that we are
beginning to see a new wave of suicide bombings outside the Middle
East?
A - Every successful terror attack is considered a victory by the
radical Islamists. Everywhere Islam expands there is regional
conflict. Right now, there are thousands of candidates for tyrdom
lining up in training camps in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Inside Europe, hundreds of illegal mosques are preparing the next step
of brain washing to lost young men who cannot find a satisfying
identity in the Occidental world. Israel is much more prepared for
this than the rest of the world will ever be. Yes, there will be more
suicide killings in Europe and the U.S. Sadly, this is only the
beginning.
====================================================================
It is almost inexplicable that our "politically correct" media is not
screaming this from the housetops. It should be front page news every
day of every week-- NOTHING could be more important than an imminent
attack that could kill thousands or even millions.
Larry
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Date: 23 Nov 2006 10:05:34
From:
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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bill-o wrote:
> On 21-Nov-2006, "Head Shot" <HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com> wrote:
>
> > In World War II; both the Allied Forces and Axis Forces would attack each
> >
> > other in waves of pure walls of humans;
>
> What about the WWI trenches, that still bogggles my mind. The French lost a
> whole generation of men due to that lovely tatic. A collegue of mine @ UGA
> did his dissertation on the letters home written by les poilus (French
> equivalent of doughboys). Talk about something that will make you hair stand
> on end.
>
> --
> bill-o
>
> A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
> two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
Yes. I'm so glad we have a peaceful society not beset by the violence
of Islam.
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Date: 21 Nov 2006 01:20:09
From:
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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larry wrote:
> SUICIDE KILLERS
Ever since I surrendered to Allah the length of my drive has increase,
my handicap is down four strokes, and my sand play, incredible! Then
there is... modesty forbids, suffice to say with my four wives I have
never felt less like committing suicide.
Try it.
You'll like it.
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Date: 23 Nov 2006 04:46:07
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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On 21-Nov-2006, frisbieinstein@yahoo.com wrote:
> Ever since I surrendered to Allah the length of my drive has increase,
> my handicap is down four strokes, and my sand play, incredible! Then
> there is... modesty forbids, suffice to say with my four wives I have
> never felt less like committing suicide.
>
> Try it.
>
> You'll like it.
as-salaam alaykum! ;-)
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 17:09:08
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Because scared people make good sheep and good sheep are needed
> to make Larry's plutocratic fantasies come true.
So uneducated people "will not end up in Iraq."
-Greg
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Date: 21 Nov 2006 02:02:10
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Dene <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:
:
: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > Because scared people make good sheep and good sheep are needed
: > to make Larry's plutocratic fantasies come true.
:
: So uneducated people "will not end up in Iraq."
Meaning, of course, like the current occupant of 1600.
Man, I've seen the right come up with some amazing fake outrage,
but I think that one may have taken the cake.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:00:39
From: multi
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:02:10 GMT, Chris Bellomy
<puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
>Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>:
>: Chris Bellomy wrote:
>:> Because scared people make good sheep and good sheep are needed
>:> to make Larry's plutocratic fantasies come true.
>:
>: So uneducated people "will not end up in Iraq."
>
>Meaning, of course, like the current occupant of 1600.
>
>Man, I've seen the right come up with some amazing fake outrage,
>but I think that one may have taken the cake.
No, I still think the Cheneys' fake outrage about Kerry saying they
loved their daughter takes the prize.
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Date: 21 Nov 2006 16:33:57
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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multi <multi@asm.org > wrote:
: On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 02:02:10 GMT, Chris Bellomy
: <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote:
:
: >Dene <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
: >:
: >: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: >:> Because scared people make good sheep and good sheep are needed
: >:> to make Larry's plutocratic fantasies come true.
: >:
: >: So uneducated people "will not end up in Iraq."
: >
: >Meaning, of course, like the current occupant of 1600.
: >
: >Man, I've seen the right come up with some amazing fake outrage,
: >but I think that one may have taken the cake.
:
: No, I still think the Cheneys' fake outrage about Kerry saying they
: loved their daughter takes the prize.
Yeah, I guess you're right. And truthfully, the fake outrage
about Clinton and Lewinsky was pretty amazing just for the
sheer volume of it.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 21:35:29
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Chris Bellomy wrote:
> Man, I've seen the right come up with some amazing fake outrage,
> but I think that one may have taken the cake.
I am outraged that really fat broads are allowed to buy spandex clothing.
That's just sick and there ought to be a law against it.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 17:06:59
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> I don't have time to fear Islam.
>
> I'm too busy fearing the home-schooling Baptists who live next door.
For those who have wondered who MAT is and where he lives, you can rule
out Utah.
-Greg
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:17:12
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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larry wrote:
> SUICIDE KILLERS
>
> By - Pierre Rehov, documentary filmmaker
>
> On July 15, MSNBC's "Connected" program discussed the July 7th London
> attacks.
>
> One of the guests was Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed
> six documentaries on the intifada by going undercover in the
> Palestinian areas. Pierre's upcoming film, "Suicide Killers," is
> based on interviews that he conducted with the families of suicide
> bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it.
> Pierre agreed to a request for a Q&A interview here about his work on
> the new film.
>
> Q - What inspired you to produce "Suicide Killers," your seventh
> film?
>
> A - I started working with victims of suicide attacks to make a film
> on PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) when I became fascinated with
> the personalities of those who had committed those crimes, as they
> were described again and again by their victims. Especially the fact
> that suicide bombers are all smiling one second before they blow
> themselves up.
>
> Q - Why is this film especially important?
>
> A - People don't understand the devastating culture behind this
> unbelievable phenomenon. My film is not politically correct because it
> addresses the real problem, showing the real face of Islam. It points
> the finger against a culture of hatred in which the uneducated are
> brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to
> kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God whose word, as
> transmitted by other men, has become their only certitude.
>
> Q - What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know
> that other experts do not know?
>
> A - I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the
> level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a
> dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior.
> In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure
> frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness
> or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between
> men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who
> are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure
> anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no
> coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated
> subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot
> satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil.
>
> Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on Earth will
> finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids,
> killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes
> their only solution.
>
> Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their
> families and survivors of suicide bombings?
>
> A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing
> with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own
> logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so
> convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure
> craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say,
> is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my
> son is dead." Her son had become a shaheed, a tyr, which for her
> was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a
> doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.
>
> This system of values works completely backwards since their
> interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are
> facing people whose only dream, only achievement goal is to fulfill
> what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a Shaheed or the
> family of a shaheed.
>
> They don't see the innocent being killed; they only see the impure
> that they have to destroy.
>
> Q - You say suicide bombers experience a moment of absolute power,
> beyond punishment. Is death the ultimate power?
>
> A - Not death as an end, but death as a door opener to the after life.
> They are seeking the reward that God has promised them. They work for
> God, the ultimate authority, above all human laws. They therefore
> experience this single delusional second of absolute power, where
> nothing bad can ever happen to them, since they become God's sword.
>
> Q - Is there a suicide bomber personality profile? Describe the
> psychopathology.
>
> A - Generally kids between 15 and 25 bearing a lot of complexes,
> generally inferiority complexes. They must have been fed with
> religion. They usually have a lack of developed personality. Usually
> they are impressionable idealists. In the western world they would
> easily have become drug addicts, but not criminals. Interestingly,
> they are not criminals since they don't see good and evil the same way
> that we do. If they had been raised in an Occidental culture, they
> would have hated violence. But they constantly battle against their
> own death anxiety. The only solution to this deep-seated pathology is
> to be willing to die and be rewarded in the afterlife in Paradise.
>
> Q - Are suicide bombers principally motivated by religious conviction?
> A - Yes, it is their only conviction. They don't act to gain a
> territory or to find freedom or even dignity. They only follow Allah,
> the supreme judge, and what He tells them to do.
>
> Q - Do all Muslims interpret jihad and tyrdom in the same way?
>
> A - All Muslim believers believe that, ultimately, Islam will prevail
> on earth.They believe this is the only true religion and there is no
> room, in their mind, for interpretation. The main difference between
> moderate Muslims and extremists is that moderate Muslims don't think
> they will see the absolute victory of Islam during their lifetime,
> therefore they respect other beliefs. The extremists believe that the
> fulfillment of the Prophecy of Islam and ruling the entire world as
> described in the Koran, is for today. Each victory of Bin Laden
> convinces 20 million moderate Muslims to become extremists.
>
> Q - Describe the culture that manufactures suicide bombers.
>
> A - Oppression, lack of freedom, brain washing, organized poverty,
> placing God in charge of daily life, total separation between men and
> women, forbidding sex, giving women no power whatsoever, and placing
> men in charge of family honor, which is mainly connected to their
> women's behavior.
>
> Q - What socio-economic forces support the perpetuation of suicide
> bombings?
>
> A - Muslim charity is usually a cover for supporting terrorist
> organizations. But one has also to look at countries like Pakistan,
> Saudi Arabia and Iran, which are also supporting the same
> organizations through different networks. The ironic thing in the case
> of Palestinian suicide bombers is that most of the money comes through
> financial support from the Occidental world, donated to a culture that
> utterly hates and rejects the West (mainly symbolized by Israel).
>
> Q - Is there a financial support network for the families of the
> suicide bombers? If so, who is paying them and how does that affect
> the decision?
>
> A - There used to be a financial incentive in the days of Saddam
> Hussein ($25,000 per family) and Yasser Arafat (smaller amounts), but
> these days are gone. It is a mistake to believe that these families
> would sacrifice their children for money. Although, the children
> themselves who are very attached to their families, might find in this
> financial support another reason to become suicide bombers. It is like
> buying a life insurance policy and then committing suicide.
>
> Q - Why are so many suicide bombers young men?
>
> A - As discussed above, libido is paramount. Also ego, because this is
> a sure way to become a hero. The shaheeds are the cowboys or the
> firemen of Islam. Shaheed is a positively reinforced value in this
> culture. And what kid has never dreamed of becoming a cowboy or a
> fireman?
>
> Q - What role does the U.N. play in the terrorist equation?
>
> A - The U.N. is in the hands of Arab countries and third world or
> ex-communist countries. Their hands are tied. The U.N. has condemned
> Israel more than any other country in the world, including the regime
> of Castro, Idi Amin or Kaddahfi. By behaving this way, the U.N. leaves
> a door open by not openly condemning terrorist organizations. In
> addition, through UNRWA, the U.N. is directly tied to terror
> organizations such as Hamas, representing 65 percent of their
> apparatus in the so-called Palestinian refugee camps. As a support to
> Arab countries, the U.N. has maintained Palestinians in camps with the
> hope to "return" into Israel for more than 50 years, therefore making
> it impossible to settle those populations, which still live in
> deplorable conditions. Four hundred million dollars are spent every
> year, mainly financed by U.S. taxes, to support 23,000 employees of
> UNRWA, many of whom belong to terrorist organizations (see Congressman
> Eric Cantor on this subject, and in my film "Hosta
> ges of Hatred").
>
> Q - You say that a suicide bomber is a 'stupid bomb and a st bomb'
> simultaneously. Explain what you mean.
>
> A - Unlike an electronic device, a suicide killer has until the last
> second the capacity to change his mind. In reality, he is nothing but
> a platform representing interests which are not his, but he doesn't
> know it.
>
> Q - How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and
> terrorism in general?
>
> A - Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this
> culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a
> new form of Naziism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in
> the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with
> the German people.
>
> Q - Are these men traveling outside their native areas in large
> numbers? Based on your research, would you predict that we are
> beginning to see a new wave of suicide bombings outside the Middle
> East?
>
> A - Every successful terror attack is considered a victory by the
> radical Islamists. Everywhere Islam expands there is regional
> conflict. Right now, there are thousands of candidates for tyrdom
> lining up in training camps in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
> Inside Europe, hundreds of illegal mosques are preparing the next step
> of brain washing to lost young men who cannot find a satisfying
> identity in the Occidental world. Israel is much more prepared for
> this than the rest of the world will ever be. Yes, there will be more
> suicide killings in Europe and the U.S. Sadly, this is only the
> beginning.
> ====================================================================
>
> It is almost inexplicable that our "politically correct" media is not
> screaming this from the housetops. It should be front page news every
> day of every week-- NOTHING could be more important than an imminent
> attack that could kill thousands or even millions.
>
> Larry
The people I most fear are people like you, who demonize an entire
religion because of the extremist views of a minority of its adherents.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 20:58:53
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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John B. wrote:
> The people I most fear are people like you, who demonize an entire
> religion because of the extremist views of a minority of its
> adherents.
If you start adding up all the lunatic nations that are Islamic (Iran,
Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Afghanestan, Pakistan, Lebanon, etc.) then you
will see that most adherents to that cult (Islam) are pretty extreme.
IMHO, of course.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:29:56
From: Loudon Briggs
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote:
(CLIP)
>> It is almost inexplicable that our "politically correct" media is not
>> screaming this from the housetops. It should be front page news every
>> day of every week-- NOTHING could be more important than an imminent
>> attack that could kill thousands or even millions.
>>
>> Larry
>
>
>The people I most fear are people like you, who demonize an entire
>religion because of the extremist views of a minority of its adherents.
Agreed, but unfortunately, the minority is growing extremely fast with
little deterrent effort from the majority.
--
Loudon R. Briggs larebe@bbz.net Phoenix, AZ
"How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"
(from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:19:59
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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In article <vigsl2l7a2ahih0e4rjluuqa283g1tnpc0@4ax.com >
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
Typical. Another repug telling us how to think when they have the most
trouble thinking for themselves. The little parrots never learn. Hey
larry, ELECTION DAY, NOV 7. THERE WAS A LESSON THERE!!!!!!!!!
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 00:36:34
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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I don't have time to fear Islam.
I'm too busy fearing the home-schooling Baptists who live next door.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 12:18:03
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Miss Anne Thrope wrote:
> I don't have time to fear Islam.
>
> I'm too busy fearing the home-schooling Baptists who live next door.
Don't worry about Baptists - worry about these loons:
www.StormFront.org
That will make you want to buy more guns and 10,000 more rounds of ammo
every time you go on the website.
--
___________________________________________________________
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:38:03
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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larry wrote:
> Q - What inspired you to produce "Suicide Killers," your seventh film?
>
> A - I knew these right-wing whackos would eat that shit up. I mean, those dumbasses will fall for anything. All we have to do is to pay Rush, Hannity, and that Beck guy a few bucks and every wingnut in the country will be shaking in their boots. Those fools now fear the Muslims almost as much as they do Hillary. "Allah, Akbhar!"
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:21:53
From:
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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George Orwell wrote:
> In article <vigsl2l7a2ahih0e4rjluuqa283g1tnpc0@4ax.com>
> larry <larry@deldata.com> wrote:
> (snip)
>
> Well, now we know what Limbaugh is telling all the neocons nitwits to
> complain about this week. Little parrots doing what they're told. It's
> sad but predictable for the masses that won't or are incapable of
> thinking for themselves. Larry is their poster boy.
Hey! Kill a Muslim for Jesus!
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 19:49:16
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey! Kill a Muslim for Jesus!
I don't care if I freeze my toe-zees long as I got my plastic Moses riding
on the dashboard of my car.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:07:38
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:16 -0500, "Head Shot"
<HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com > wrote:
>I don't care if I freeze my toe-zees long as I got my plastic Moses riding
>on the dashboard of my car.
Moses supposes his toeses are roses...
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 12:18:33
From: Head Shot
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:49:16 -0500, "Head Shot"
> <HeadShot@ThePinkMist.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't care if I freeze my toe-zees long as I got my plastic Moses
>> riding on the dashboard of my car.
>
>
> Moses supposes his toeses are roses...
You should make bumper stickers of that!
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A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises,
I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it
gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. -- Thomas
Jefferson
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:18:29
From: George Orwell
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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In article <vigsl2l7a2ahih0e4rjluuqa283g1tnpc0@4ax.com >
larry <larry@deldata.com > wrote:
(snip)
Well, now we know what Limbaugh is telling all the neocons nitwits to
complain about this week. Little parrots doing what they're told. It's
sad but predictable for the masses that won't or are incapable of
thinking for themselves. Larry is their poster boy.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:44:11
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Why you should fear Islam
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Because scared people make good sheep and good sheep are needed
to make Larry's plutocratic fantasies come true.
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Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 00:31:18
From: Buford Ressup
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:13:49 -0800, annika1980 wrote:
>
> the Moderator wrote:
>> > I believe the premise is that global warming, caused by greenhouse gas
>> > emissions, has already influenced global weather patterns (that seems
>> > plausible to me).>
>
>> It seems plausible, but they just haven't been able to prove it.
>
> Actually, they have.
No, they haven't. What they've been able to prove is that Earth's climate
changes from hot to cold to hot again over periods of tens of thousands of
years. They've known this for quite some time, in fact.
Thirty years ago the pseudo-scientific fad was global cooling. We were
supposed to be in imminent danger of the next ice age. Now it's global
warming, with pretty much the same breathless "scientists" telling us all
about it.
> There is a mountain of scientific evidence to
> support it.
Actually, there is a mountain of pseudo-scientific propaganda to support
it. But you do have Al Gore telling you it's scientific evidence, so I
guess that counts for something.
> But even if you refuse to believe (for whatever reason) that reducing
> these emissions will help save the planet, nobody has argued a down side
> to doing that. Why NOT try to reduce these potentially harmful gases?
> Making our environment cleaner is always a good thing.
This I agree with completely.
>
> It's a shame that some issues like this are constantly promoted by
> Democrats and as a result many Republicans automatically oppose them.
I want to see the *real* scientific evidence. Everything I've seen so
far is carefully presented propaganda. I want to see the data that prove
it. The complete data. I want to see the correlation between whatever
they're blaming and whatever they're warning us about. Give us the actual
data, ALL the data, and we can see for ourselves how strongly correlated
the variables are. The equations are simple enough. Let us investigate
it for ourselves.
> Cleaning the environment should be a priority for everyone, not just Al
> Gore.
There can be no argument there.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 07:31:40
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On 18-Nov-2006, "JJK" <surpher@verizon.net > wrote:
> "Jack Hollis" wrote:
> <snip>
> > Over the past 20 years, however, the number of sunspots has remained
> > roughly constant, yet the average temperature of the Earth has
> > continued to increase.
> >
> > This is put down to a human-produced greenhouse effect caused by the
> > combustion of fossil fuels.
> <snip>
>
>
> Perhaps you missed this part of the article?
Don't you speak English? "this is put down to" = this is assumed to be
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 23:40:36
From: JJK
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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"Jack Hollis" wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > Over the past 20 years, however, the number of sunspots has remained
> > > roughly constant, yet the average temperature of the Earth has
> > > continued to increase.
> > >
> > > This is put down to a human-produced greenhouse effect caused by the
> > > combustion of fossil fuels.
> > <snip>
JJK wrote:
> > Perhaps you missed this part of the article?
"bill-o" wrote:
> Don't you speak English? "this is put down to" = this is assumed to be
Can you follow the thread?
According to Hollis, that article attributed global warming solely to an
increase in solar activity. The snippet above suggested that Hollis' premise
was not entirely true.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 11:40:46
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:40:36 GMT, "JJK" <surpher@verizon.net > wrote:
>Can you follow the thread?
>
>According to Hollis, that article attributed global warming solely to an
>increase in solar activity. The snippet above suggested that Hollis' premise
>was not entirely true.
Actually, I never said that increased CO2 emissions were not a factor
in global warming. The theoretical models of the greenhouse effect
include CO2 as a factor and I don't see why increased CO2 would not
increase global temperatures. In addition, there is no doubt that CO2
levels are rising due to human activity.
The problem is that there is no historical record available to measure
this effect. Thus it's impossible to know exactly how much effect CO2
levels are having and will have in the future if they continue to
rise.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 04:05:29
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Checked Gas Prices Lately?
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On 19-Nov-2006, "JJK" <surpher@verizon.net > wrote:
> Can you follow the thread?
>
> According to Hollis, that article attributed global warming solely to an
> increase in solar activity. The snippet above suggested that Hollis'
> premise
> was not entirely true.
I have been following and I don't see where or how.
--
bill-o
A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.
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