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Date: 27 Sep 2006 04:07:36
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Subject: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
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Date: 28 Sep 2006 23:37:42
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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George Hibbard wrote:
> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1159358471.696708.107670@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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> > Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> >> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> >> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
> >
> > Body chemistry changes from day to day, amount of sleep, what you eat,
> > the weather, etc. How often do you even FEEL the same day to day?
> >
>
> And it doesn't take more than an extremely small difference in balance,
> posture, alignment, or other detail to draw upon totally different muscular
> involvement to fulfill the basic mandate of making the club go where we
> perceive it needs to be moved. I have noticed ked differences in feel
> sometimes with as little as a couple degrees difference, for example, in my
> right hand grip vs. the left hand, and in the placement of my weight on my
> right foot - whether more towards the ball of the foot or more towards the
> heel. VERY big diff in feeling for something invisible to an observer or
> camera.
George, you may think you are invisible, but you are not. We all
saw those swings. At least I know I suck.
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Date: 28 Sep 2006 12:52:13
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: Forged v/s other type of irons
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:07:08 -0700, Ben. wrote:
> If you have hit both and can't tell the difference, you don't know
> anything to begin with. A pure strike with a forged blade is hands down
> the best feeling in golf. No cast club even comes close.
So you're saying if you had two clubheads that were identical except that
one was cast and the other was forged, you would be able to tell the
difference between them. Based up on what, the hardness of the metal? Get
real.
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 21:17:13
From: Gordo
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> jeffc wrote:
> > <Andrcom@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > > Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> > > well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
> >
> > It's because you don't really have A swing. Well you have a swing, but the
> > less good your swing is in terms of fundamentals, the more variance there
> > will be in it from day to day. As Jack Nicklaus has pointed out, there are
> > not these lofty plateaus that pros achieve and amateurs don't. It's simply
> > a matter of refinement. Since his swing is so good, there are only small
> > fractions of an inch in variance in each of his swings. There are larger
> > variances in our swings, so there are bigger differences in our results.
>
> How do you know how consistant (and by design) my swing is?
Day in and day out, our body undergoes small changes. I know for me,
it's the way that my knees feel, or my lower back. On the days that
I'm swinging really well, I play without a good deal of pain. If one
of these areas is hurting, then my swing is slightly different. Plus,
I'm a mid handicapper. Without practice (which I loathe) it's not
going to be consistent from day to day.
However, I am working on coming back to the fold...........
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 18:50:23
From:
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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jeffc wrote:
> <Andrcom@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> > well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
>
> It's because you don't really have A swing. Well you have a swing, but the
> less good your swing is in terms of fundamentals, the more variance there
> will be in it from day to day. As Jack Nicklaus has pointed out, there are
> not these lofty plateaus that pros achieve and amateurs don't. It's simply
> a matter of refinement. Since his swing is so good, there are only small
> fractions of an inch in variance in each of his swings. There are larger
> variances in our swings, so there are bigger differences in our results.
How do you know how consistant (and by design) my swing is?
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Date: 29 Sep 2006 02:41:42
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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<Andrcom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159408223.667591.107130@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
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> jeffc wrote:
>> <Andrcom@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> > Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
>> > well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
>>
>> It's because you don't really have A swing. Well you have a swing, but
>> the
>> less good your swing is in terms of fundamentals, the more variance there
>> will be in it from day to day. As Jack Nicklaus has pointed out, there
>> are
>> not these lofty plateaus that pros achieve and amateurs don't. It's
>> simply
>> a matter of refinement. Since his swing is so good, there are only small
>> fractions of an inch in variance in each of his swings. There are larger
>> variances in our swings, so there are bigger differences in our results.
>
> How do you know how consistant (and by design) my swing is?
That sentence didn't seem to make grammatical sense, but if you're asking
how I know your swing isn't consistent, it's because you told.
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 14:55:00
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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<Andrcom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
It's because you don't really have A swing. Well you have a swing, but the
less good your swing is in terms of fundamentals, the more variance there
will be in it from day to day. As Jack Nicklaus has pointed out, there are
not these lofty plateaus that pros achieve and amateurs don't. It's simply
a matter of refinement. Since his swing is so good, there are only small
fractions of an inch in variance in each of his swings. There are larger
variances in our swings, so there are bigger differences in our results.
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 14:30:42
From: MichaelJP
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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<Andrcom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
I find the opposite, my swing feels exactly the same every single time I
execute it.
Only problem is the result can be anything from a perfect pro strike to a
near-whiffed cold-topped shocker!
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 12:17:45
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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<Andrcom@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1159355256.492419.259340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
>
I heard an interview with Kenny Perry a number of years ago. Someone had
written a book titled (approximately) "A Swing for a Lifetime" and Kenny
commented on it. He said...
"A lifetime? I'd be happy to find one that lasts 4.5 hours"
dave
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 05:12:54
From: Ken Meltzer
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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Larry Bud wrote:
> Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> > Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> > well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
>
> Body chemistry changes from day to day, amount of sleep, what you eat,
> the weather, etc. How often do you even FEEL the same day to day?
I don't even feel the same on the same day!
Best,
Ken
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 05:01:11
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
Body chemistry changes from day to day, amount of sleep, what you eat,
the weather, etc. How often do you even FEEL the same day to day?
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 13:15:34
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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On 27 Sep 2006 05:01:11 -0700, "Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com >
wrote:
>Body chemistry changes from day to day, amount of sleep, what you eat,
>the weather, etc. How often do you even FEEL the same day to day?
With some health difficulties, I have had some rounds where the
fatigue hits half way through the round - and my scores show it.
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 08:05:39
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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"Larry Bud" <larrybud2002@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1159358471.696708.107670@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
>> Tuesdays swing felt like a well oiled machine that never worked so
>> well. Saturdays swing felt like a train wreck.
>
> Body chemistry changes from day to day, amount of sleep, what you eat,
> the weather, etc. How often do you even FEEL the same day to day?
>
And it doesn't take more than an extremely small difference in balance,
posture, alignment, or other detail to draw upon totally different muscular
involvement to fulfill the basic mandate of making the club go where we
perceive it needs to be moved. I have noticed ked differences in feel
sometimes with as little as a couple degrees difference, for example, in my
right hand grip vs. the left hand, and in the placement of my weight on my
right foot - whether more towards the ball of the foot or more towards the
heel. VERY big diff in feeling for something invisible to an observer or
camera.
George Hibbard
www.perfectimpact.com
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Date: 27 Sep 2006 11:32:27
From: Brad
Subject: Re: Why does a swing feel different 1 day to another?
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Because you are using AOL.
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