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Date: 19 Nov 2006 17:49:33
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.

And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
her to iraq?





 
Date: 28 Nov 2006 22:49:13
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Howard Brazee wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:17:17 -0600, "the Moderator"
> <sparky@no_spam_engineer.com> wrote:
>
> >> They've questioned me - and i gave each a three day ass-kicking. BTW -
> >> my name is the truth.
> >
> >Like your posts, nothing about you is the truth.
>
> If Laura Welsh's name was Laura Bush at the time, and if an accident
> was murder and if an acquaintance was a boy friend - then it would be
> technically accurate - but even then such a moniker wouldn't be about
> her.

HAHAHA. Is that all you got? It wasn't murder; just a mere case of
vehicular manslaughter? You are such a troll.



 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 19:24:28
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Andrcom@aol.com wrote:

>
> There are many things I do not like including the war and how it is
> being fought. If you want to be taken seriously loose the ugly,
> offensive screen name.

Truth hurts, huh?



 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 19:23:08
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> On Nov 19, 8:49 pm, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
> >
> > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > her to iraq?

> Has the secret service checked you out yet with that Assholic screen
> name?

They've questioned me - and i gave each a three day ass-kicking. BTW -
my name is the truth.



  
Date: 28 Nov 2006 14:17:17
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1164338588.830432.165150@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Andrcom@aol.com wrote:
> > On Nov 19, 8:49 pm, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
>
> > Has the secret service checked you out yet with that Assholic screen
> > name?
>
> They've questioned me - and i gave each a three day ass-kicking. BTW -
> my name is the truth.

Like your posts, nothing about you is the truth.




   
Date: 28 Nov 2006 13:38:53
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:17:17 -0600, "the Moderator"
<sparky@no_spam_engineer.com > wrote:

>> They've questioned me - and i gave each a three day ass-kicking. BTW -
>> my name is the truth.
>
>Like your posts, nothing about you is the truth.

If Laura Welsh's name was Laura Bush at the time, and if an accident
was murder and if an acquaintance was a boy friend - then it would be
technically accurate - but even then such a moniker wouldn't be about
her.


 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 10:57:53
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??


On Nov 20, 10:32 pm, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Jack Hollis wrote:
> > On 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
> > >guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.
>
> > Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
> > to learn. Any warm body can do them. Good CEO's are hard to come by.
> > BYW, most skilled factory jobs are often the highest paid jobs in the
> > community.Yeah - but most CEOs aren't good. They just sit around all day and get

I am really sick of you and those like you who bring bullshit OT crap
here and not only never post golf I bet youve never played golf...LETS
TAR AND FEATHER HIM BOYS.
> $10M a year. That is welfare pure and simple.



 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 10:53:50
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??


On Nov 19, 10:31 pm, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> lobshot...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> > > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > > her to iraq?
>
> > You might want to go back and review your History 101 as to who has led
> > us into wars.Changing the subject, i see. The issue is that people who support a
> war should be required to either fight in it or send their kids to
> fight. Down with chickenhawkery.

There are many things I do not like including the war and how it is
being fought. If you want to be taken seriously loose the ugly,
offensive screen name.



 
Date: 23 Nov 2006 10:52:00
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??


On Nov 19, 8:49 pm, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> her to iraq?
Has the secret service checked you out yet with that Assholic screen
name?



 
Date: 21 Nov 2006 11:38:28
From: John B.
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Dene wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > Tex wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > And yet asshats like
> > > you think "the rich" should pay more.
> >
> > Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
> > parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
> > politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.
>
> That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
> them work harder than you or me. Furthermore, they employ people.
> Where do you think private sector jobs come from?
>
> -Greg


And I know some rich people who don't do a goddamn thing. They employ
no one. They add nothing to society. All they do is drink and complain
about everybody who's trying to separate them from their money.



  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 15:17:29
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 21 Nov 2006 11:38:28 -0800, "John B." <johnb505@gmail.com > wrote:

>And I know some rich people who don't do a goddamn thing. They employ
>no one. They add nothing to society. All they do is drink and complain
>about everybody who's trying to separate them from their money.

They can't help it if they're lucky.


 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 22:12:48
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Jack Hollis wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2006 19:32:33 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Yeah - but most CEOs aren't good. They just sit around all day and get
> >$10M a year. That is welfare pure and simple.
>
> It's up to the Board of Directors to evaluate the CEO. I wouldn't
> agree that most of them are no good. I'd say some of them are very
> good, some of them are good, some of them a not so good and some of
> them are really bad.

Point is they are ALL overpaid. No CEO deserves a salary over $300,000
a year but some get 100 times that. And now we have this optons
backdating scandal where the CEOs are paid in options but there is no
date for the payment!! The CEO fills that in later after he finds out
what the yearly low for the stock is. AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION



  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 12:57:54
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 20 Nov 2006 22:12:48 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Jack Hollis wrote:
>> On 20 Nov 2006 19:32:33 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
>> <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Yeah - but most CEOs aren't good. They just sit around all day and get
>> >$10M a year. That is welfare pure and simple.
>>
>> It's up to the Board of Directors to evaluate the CEO. I wouldn't
>> agree that most of them are no good. I'd say some of them are very
>> good, some of them are good, some of them a not so good and some of
>> them are really bad.
>
>Point is they are ALL overpaid. No CEO deserves a salary over $300,000
>a year but some get 100 times that. And now we have this optons
>backdating scandal where the CEOs are paid in options but there is no
>date for the payment!! The CEO fills that in later after he finds out
>what the yearly low for the stock is. AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION


The top 5% of Real Estate Agents in NYC earn over 300K. There are
lots and lots of insurance salesmen who make over 300K a year. I own
a small consulting company and made twice that ten years ago. Most of
the senior managers of large corporations make over 300K.

It all comes down to supply and demand. If you want good people, you
have to pay for them. It's difficult to hire a CEO in a manufacturing
business for 300K when it's impossible to hire a competent Plant
Manager for under 400K.

Take a CEO like Jack Welch at GE, he added billions and billions of
dollars to the bottom line. He was worth every penny that GE paid him
and more.


 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:32:33
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Jack Hollis wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
> >guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.
>
> Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
> to learn. Any warm body can do them. Good CEO's are hard to come by.
> BYW, most skilled factory jobs are often the highest paid jobs in the
> community.

Yeah - but most CEOs aren't good. They just sit around all day and get
$10M a year. That is welfare pure and simple.



  
Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:31:59
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 20 Nov 2006 19:32:33 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Yeah - but most CEOs aren't good. They just sit around all day and get
>$10M a year. That is welfare pure and simple.

It's up to the Board of Directors to evaluate the CEO. I wouldn't
agree that most of them are no good. I'd say some of them are very
good, some of them are good, some of them a not so good and some of
them are really bad.


 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:28:56
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

tiggerspalewife wrote:
> In article <1163987372.981353.161850@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
> "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
> >
> > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > her to iraq?
>
> Probably for the same reasons those morons today that love this war are
> sitting behind their keyboards telling us why we should feel just like
> them. It's easier to talk than serve. It's easier to agree with this
> failed policy than to sign up their own kids and friends to go over there
> and fight, which none of the war lovers will ever do.

Yup - america is chickenhawk nation. We need a social policy that says
- Nobody can support a war unless they are fighting in it. If you
refuse to enlist then you can only be anti-war or neutral.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 13:11:37
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
I didnt change the subject at all, I addressed the point you made about
Republicans. Now, go back and review history 101.
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> lobshot694@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
> > >
> > > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > > her to iraq?
> >
> > You might want to go back and review your History 101 as to who has led
> > us into wars.
>
> Changing the subject, i see. The issue is that people who support a
> war should be required to either fight in it or send their kids to
> fight. Down with chickenhawkery.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:13:01
From: tiggerspalewife
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
In article <1163987372.981353.161850@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >
"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" <xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> her to iraq?

Probably for the same reasons those morons today that love this war are
sitting behind their keyboards telling us why we should feel just like
them. It's easier to talk than serve. It's easier to agree with this
failed policy than to sign up their own kids and friends to go over there
and fight, which none of the war lovers will ever do.




 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Dene wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > Tex wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > And yet asshats like
> > > you think "the rich" should pay more.
> >
> > Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
> > parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
> > politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.
>
> That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
> them work harder than you or me.
>
> -Greg

(sigh) As usual, you can't read. I didn't say they don't work; i said
they don't produce. Some CEO may spend 80 hours a week on the job but
it's all bullshitting around. Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.



  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 19:28:46
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

George Hibbard wrote:


>
> Some day some one in the auto bus. here will get the message from Japan:
> LONG TERM QUALITY serves the public and they will give you repeat business.
> Today's announcement of the 13 best cars in crash tests said they were all
> Japanese I think - not made in the good ole....

I read that report too. Just amazing how Detroit turns out an inferior
product and expects people to buy it. But that's american business for
you. Gates has been doing that with Windows for years. I hope Firefox
kicks billy's butt.



  
Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:26:10
From: Joe
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

> Dene wrote:
>
>>Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
>>
>>>Tex wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> And yet asshats like
>>>>you think "the rich" should pay more.
>>>
>>>Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
>>>parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
>>>politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.
>>
>>That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
>>them work harder than you or me.
>>
>>-Greg
>
>
> (sigh) As usual, you can't read. I didn't say they don't work; i said
> they don't produce. Some CEO may spend 80 hours a week on the job but
> it's all bullshitting around. Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
> guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.

Let me guess... You spent your life on the factory floor?

Conversely, how do you define "bullshitting around"?

Have you ever held a position of responsibility in a "for profit"
business? Thought not!

Joe



  
Date: 20 Nov 2006 16:36:05
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
>guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.

Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
to learn. Any warm body can do them. Good CEO's are hard to come by.
BYW, most skilled factory jobs are often the highest paid jobs in the
community.


   
Date: 20 Nov 2006 19:03:56
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
In article <8m74m2pfmq77g794cu3rk61gdtmgat6q41@4ax.com >,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote:

> On 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
> >guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.
>
> Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
> to learn. Any warm body can do them.

But no human should have to.

> Good CEO's are hard to come by.

Good anything is hard to come by. That's why it's called good.
Plenty of lousy CEO's making mulit-millions.

"In judging whether Corporate America is serious about reforming
itself, CEO pay remains the acid test. To date, the results
aren't encouraging." - Warren Buffett

> BYW, most skilled factory jobs are often the highest paid jobs in the
> community.

False, as usual.


    
Date: 21 Nov 2006 08:20:06
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

On 20-Nov-2006, The World Wide Wade <waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net >
wrote:

> In article <8m74m2pfmq77g794cu3rk61gdtmgat6q41@4ax.com>,
> Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > On 20 Nov 2006 10:48:52 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> > <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
> > >guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.
> >
> > Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
> > to learn. Any warm body can do them.
>
> But no human should have to.

Shoulda paid attention in school.....

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.


    
Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:29:15
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:03:56 -0800, The World Wide Wade
<waderameyxiii@comcast.remove13.net > wrote:

>> Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
>> to learn. Any warm body can do them.
>
>But no human should have to.
>

It beats starving to death.


     
Date: 20 Nov 2006 21:35:32
From: The World Wide Wade
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
In article <c205m21ijkd7qbbosiv620mavmmvfhsc0p@4ax.com >,
Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote:

> >> Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
> >> to learn. Any warm body can do them.
> >
> >But no human should have to.
> >
>
> It beats starving to death.

Thanks, I think you've made my point for me.


   
Date: 21 Nov 2006 01:13:33
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:36:05 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com >
wrote:

>> Yet he's paid say $10 M a year while the
>>guy on the factory floor actually making something gets 30K.
>
>Some factory jobs require zero intelligence and take about 5 minutes
>to learn. Any warm body can do them. Good CEO's are hard to come by.
>BYW, most skilled factory jobs are often the highest paid jobs in the
>community.

When CEOs made only 100 times as much as the average worker - they did
a damn good job. Are they so much better now?


    
Date: 20 Nov 2006 23:26:56
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:13:33 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>When CEOs made only 100 times as much as the average worker - they did
>a damn good job. Are they so much better now?

Like anything else, some CEO's aren't worth shit and others are worth
ten times what they make.


     
Date: 21 Nov 2006 05:02:03
From: S McFarlane
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

"Jack Hollis" <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote in message
news:ktv4m21l4n6nijgh8jn5mnamrel3kfp31k@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 01:13:33 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net>
> wrote:
>
>>When CEOs made only 100 times as much as the average worker - they did
>>a damn good job. Are they so much better now?
>
> Like anything else, some CEO's aren't worth shit and others are worth
> ten times what they make.

There is no American CEO alive that is worth 10x what they receive in
compensation these days. If you ask me (or even if you don't), there is no
CEO alive in the US that is worth 1x their compensation. Executive
compensation is just another cog in the wheel of a machine that is currently
grinding our way of life to shreds. Of course, when the dust settles, the
club members will be shrugging their shoulders saying it wasn't their fault.
'So sorry. You should have joined the club. Good thing we had such a nice
package. Now that everything is going down the toilet, aren't we so lucky
to be able to live above the fray'.

But, I thought the package was compensation for executive's amazing
abilities at stewardship? Is there a wizard behind those curtains????

American dream? It is still a reality, but if current trends continue it
will someday be nothing but a myth. Executive compensation isn't _the_
cause, but it is _a_ cause.

To touch on other posts, executives aren't idiots and they aren't worthless.
It's far easier to do a technical job requiring narrow expertise than it is
to intelligently steer the corporate ship. Anyone who thinks otherwise
is.... someone who hasn't given it much thought. The question is not
whether we need a captain, but rather what he should get paid. And what
should happen to him if he diverts half the supplies to himself everytime
the ship hits port...

Scott




 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 10:14:25
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

strat68@eudoramail.com wrote:
> On Nov 20, 5:59 am, bigoldc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > annika1980 wrote:. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> >
> > > carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> > > 120=B0 roof, Cookie.Please tell me more about that 120 degree roof.
> >> (construction talk)
>=20
>=20
> Ah, your fave Village People guy?

Nope, always liked the injun.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:22:42
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
Tex wrote:
>
> > As if most PGA Tour players have ever had a
> > real job in their lives. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> > carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> > 120=B0 roof, Cookie.
>
> And if you had the talent, you'd trade places with them in a heartbeat.
> Instead, you've just listed what all your talents are that pay money.
> So instead, you bitch and moan and want other people to pay the
> freight.

No, I simply listed some of my past jobs. I'm neither proud nor
embarrassed by them.
You do what you have to do to get by.


> For the record, I've done roofing, warehousing, even worked in a
> 7-11....never once bitched about the wages...even did a stint as an
> assembly worker at a Sears store putting bikes together...Even back
> then they took too much of MY money...that's right Cookie, it's MY
> money, I earned it, it's MINE.

Funny that when I list my job history you imply that I took those jobs
because I have no other talents, but when you list a similar history of
low-paying jobs it's a tribute to your work ethic. You're full of more
shit than a Thanksgiving turkey.

My original point was that very few PGA Tour players actually had to
work at low-paying jobs to get by as we both did. In fact, I once heard
Tiger's mom proudly proclaim that Tiger never worked a day in his life.
I guess that's something to be proud of in her culture.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:01:16
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??


On Nov 20, 5:59 am, bigoldc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
>
> > carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> > 120=B0 roof, Cookie.Please tell me more about that 120 degree roof.
>> (construction talk)


Ah, your fave Village People guy?



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 08:37:28
From: Dene
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> Tex wrote:
>
> >
> > And yet asshats like
> > you think "the rich" should pay more.
>
> Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
> parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
> politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.

That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
them work harder than you or me. Furthermore, they employ people.
Where do you think private sector jobs come from?

-Greg



  
Date: 20 Nov 2006 10:09:22
From: multi
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 20 Nov 2006 08:37:28 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com > wrote:

>
>Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
>> Tex wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > And yet asshats like
>> > you think "the rich" should pay more.
>>
>> Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
>> parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
>> politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.
>
>That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
>them work harder than you or me. Furthermore, they employ people.
>Where do you think private sector jobs come from?

I guess the question of whether the rich should help the poor is a
matter of opinion, although your Lord and Savior had some things to
say about it --- much more than about, say, gay riage or abortion.
But you seem to agree that money actually earned should be taxed less.
Why, then, does the current crop of Reps keep taxes on earned income
at about a third, while trying to totally eliminate taxes on unearned
income, i.e. dividends, capital gains, and inheritance? Why do they
write laws so that a worker who has faithfully served for 40 years can
see his pension wiped out, but his CEO who just joined the company two
years ago gets a fully protected pension of millions a year, after
getting fired for poor performance?


   
Date: 21 Nov 2006 08:17:49
From: bill-o
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

On 20-Nov-2006, multi <multi@asm.org > wrote:

> On 20 Nov 2006 08:37:28 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> >> Tex wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > And yet asshats like
> >> > you think "the rich" should pay more.
> >>
> >> Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
> >> parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
> >> politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.
> >
> >That's a stupid stereotype. I know some rich people and everyone of
> >them work harder than you or me. Furthermore, they employ people.
> >Where do you think private sector jobs come from?
>
> I guess the question of whether the rich should help the poor is a
> matter of opinion,

Taxing the rich more helps the pols not the poor.

--
bill-o

A "gimme" can best be defined as an agreement between
two golfers neither of whom can putt very well.


   
Date: 20 Nov 2006 13:59:12
From: the Moderator
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
news:19r3m29q8i4ne47l6r3kuspm7l9t8gajie@4ax.com...
> On 20 Nov 2006 08:37:28 -0800, "Dene" <gdstrue@aol.com> wrote:
>
> I guess the question of whether the rich should help the poor is a
> matter of opinion, although your Lord and Savior had some things to
> say about it --- much more than about, say, gay riage or abortion.
> But you seem to agree that money actually earned should be taxed less.
> Why, then, does the current crop of Reps keep taxes on earned income
> at about a third, while trying to totally eliminate taxes on unearned
> income, i.e. dividends, capital gains, and inheritance? Why do they
> write laws so that a worker who has faithfully served for 40 years can
> see his pension wiped out, but his CEO who just joined the company two
> years ago gets a fully protected pension of millions a year, after
> getting fired for poor performance?

I don't know what laws you are talking about. Are you sure the weren't
written by Democrats?




 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 08:31:59
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Tex wrote:

>
> And yet asshats like
> you think "the rich" should pay more.

Damn right they should pay more, you idiot. Most rich people are
parasites - They inherited the money or they're lawyers or
politicians or CEOs who don't produce a damn thing.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:50:59
From: Tex
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
annika1980 wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
> >
> > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > her to iraq?

Ending my posting silence...everyone gets an extra 1/side next year in
Beer Matches...

> As if most PGA Tour players have ever had a
> real job in their lives. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> 120=B0 roof, Cookie.

And if you had the talent, you'd trade places with them in a heartbeat.
Instead, you've just listed what all your talents are that pay money.
So instead, you bitch and moan and want other people to pay the
freight.

For the record, I've done roofing, warehousing, even worked in a
7-11....never once bitched about the wages...even did a stint as an
assembly worker at a Sears store putting bikes together...Even back
then they took too much of MY money...that's right Cookie, it's MY
money, I earned it, it's MINE. Haven't found one government (Fed,
State, local) entity worthy of what they take. And yet asshats like
you think "the rich" should pay more. Guess what Cookie, they haven't
earned the right to take more. Mostly because government agencies are
filled with asshats like that don't know who their customer
is....TAXPAYERS!

You want more money, Earn it. You want the government to raise taxes,
make them Earn it!

Now back to your regularly scheduled whine.

Tex



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:02:27
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

bigoldcat2@yahoo.com wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
>
> . Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> > carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> > 120=B0 roof, Cookie.
>
> Please tell me more about that 120 degree roof. (construction talk)

That was the temperature, not the pitch.



 
Date: 20 Nov 2006 02:59:05
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

annika1980 wrote:

. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> 120=B0 roof, Cookie.

Please tell me more about that 120 degree roof. (construction talk)



 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:35:52
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

annika1980 wrote:

>
> Oh, you must be talking about Paul "I ain't shakin hands with no
> draft-dodger" Azinger.
> That's still one of my favorite PGA Repug quotes, along with John
> Cook's immortal, "We work hard for our money and the Democrats just
> want to take all of it." As if most PGA Tour players have ever had a
> real job in their lives. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
> carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
> 120=B0 roof, Cookie.

I wasn't aware of that zinger quote. That's another great one. I do
remember that idiotic quote from cookie. Sheeit - pro golfers may
spend a lot of time practicing but that's not the same as working hard.



 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:31:11
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

lobshot694@bellsouth.net wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> > immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> > didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> > before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> > republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> > war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
> >
> > And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> > her to iraq?
>
> You might want to go back and review your History 101 as to who has led
> us into wars.

Changing the subject, i see. The issue is that people who support a
war should be required to either fight in it or send their kids to
fight. Down with chickenhawkery.



 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:18:30
From:
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> her to iraq?

You might want to go back and review your History 101 as to who has led
us into wars.



  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 07:08:11
From: carl llewellyn
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
Didn't realize that John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson were Republicans.



 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 18:43:24
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> her to iraq?

Oh, you must be talking about Paul "I ain't shakin hands with no
draft-dodger" Azinger.
That's still one of my favorite PGA Repug quotes, along with John
Cook's immortal, "We work hard for our money and the Democrats just
want to take all of it." As if most PGA Tour players have ever had a
real job in their lives. Call me when you've washed dishes at Denny's,
carried doubles twice in one day (caddy talk), or hung gutter off a
120=B0 roof, Cookie.



  
Date: 21 Nov 2006 11:14:58
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Jack Hollis wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2006 22:12:48 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> <xeton2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >
> >Point is they are ALL overpaid. No CEO deserves a salary over $300,000
> >a year but some get 100 times that. And now we have this optons
> >backdating scandal where the CEOs are paid in options but there is no
> >date for the payment!! The CEO fills that in later after he finds out
> >what the yearly low for the stock is. AMERICA = TOTAL CORRUPTION
>
>
> The top 5% of Real Estate Agents in NYC earn over 300K. There are
> lots and lots of insurance salesmen who make over 300K a year. I own
> a small consulting company and made twice that ten years ago. Most of
> the senior managers of large corporations make over 300K.
>
> It all comes down to supply and demand. If you want good people, you
> have to pay for them. It's difficult to hire a CEO in a manufacturing
> business for 300K when it's impossible to hire a competent Plant
> Manager for under 400K.

Supply and demand, my ass. Good people, my ass. Corporate exec
salaries are so high because american business is totally corrupt. If
businesses were run for profit, companies would try to keep salaries
DOWN, you idiot.



   
Date: 21 Nov 2006 15:15:25
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On 21 Nov 2006 11:14:58 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
<xeton2001@yahoo.com > wrote:

>> It all comes down to supply and demand. If you want good people, you
>> have to pay for them. It's difficult to hire a CEO in a manufacturing
>> business for 300K when it's impossible to hire a competent Plant
>> Manager for under 400K.
>
>Supply and demand, my ass. Good people, my ass. Corporate exec
>salaries are so high because american business is totally corrupt. If
>businesses were run for profit, companies would try to keep salaries
>DOWN, you idiot.


There's no need to be rude.

In some cases hiring the best man, or woman, for the job costs more
but the returns are worth it. Major corporations have to compete for
the best people. The idea that a major corporation is going to be
able to hire a CEO for $300,000 is somewhat unreasonable.

You might be of the opinion that American business is corrupt. However
I suggest that you look at the Fortune Global 500. You will see that
170 of the world's 500 largest corporations are American. If that's
what corruption brings, then I'm all for it.


    
Date: 21 Nov 2006 13:39:07
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:15:25 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com >
wrote:

>You might be of the opinion that American business is corrupt. However
>I suggest that you look at the Fortune Global 500. You will see that
>170 of the world's 500 largest corporations are American. If that's
>what corruption brings, then I'm all for it

CEOs are more motivated to have their companies big than to have them
profitable. The bigger the company, the more money and prestige the
CEO has.

The stockholder would be better off if the CEOs' number one priority
was profitability.

Also - bad CEOs make lots and lots of money, not just good ones. There
isn't a lot of connect between the owners and the board. In some
ways this is good, management isn't nearly as interested in fighting
labor as owners are.


     
Date: 21 Nov 2006 20:09:05
From: Jack Hollis
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:39:07 -0700, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:15:25 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>You might be of the opinion that American business is corrupt. However
>>I suggest that you look at the Fortune Global 500. You will see that
>>170 of the world's 500 largest corporations are American. If that's
>>what corruption brings, then I'm all for it
>
>CEOs are more motivated to have their companies big than to have them
>profitable. The bigger the company, the more money and prestige the
>CEO has.
>
>The stockholder would be better off if the CEOs' number one priority
>was profitability.


To your average CEO, profitability is everything. If that goal can be
achieved by getting bigger, then they get bigger, but many
corporations achieve that goal by getting smaller. The US auto
industry is a good example of downsizing to achieve profitability.

If I have any criticism of American corporations it's their inability
to look beyond the next quarter. There's so much pressure to show an
increase in profit every quarter that they lack the willingness to do
things in the long run that could lead to even greater profits. The
Japanese are better at setting long term goals than the Americans.


      
Date: 21 Nov 2006 20:17:01
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

"Jack Hollis" <xsleeper@aol.com > wrote in message
news:0587m2l3n4g341tm85ja46rd194pe4sm4s@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:39:07 -0700, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:15:25 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>You might be of the opinion that American business is corrupt. However
>>>I suggest that you look at the Fortune Global 500. You will see that
>>>170 of the world's 500 largest corporations are American. If that's
>>>what corruption brings, then I'm all for it
>>
>>CEOs are more motivated to have their companies big than to have them
>>profitable. The bigger the company, the more money and prestige the
>>CEO has.
>>
>>The stockholder would be better off if the CEOs' number one priority
>>was profitability.
>
>
> To your average CEO, profitability is everything. If that goal can be
> achieved by getting bigger, then they get bigger, but many
> corporations achieve that goal by getting smaller. The US auto
> industry is a good example of downsizing to achieve profitability.
>
> If I have any criticism of American corporations it's their inability
> to look beyond the next quarter. There's so much pressure to show an
> increase in profit every quarter that they lack the willingness to do
> things in the long run that could lead to even greater profits. The
> Japanese are better at setting long term goals than the Americans.

Some day some one in the auto bus. here will get the message from Japan:
LONG TERM QUALITY serves the public and they will give you repeat business.
Today's announcement of the 13 best cars in crash tests said they were all
Japanese I think - not made in the good ole....





 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 18:03:55
From: damnyankee
Subject: Re: Why didn't war-lover Azinger serve in Gulf War I??

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> In 1991 after America won the Ryder Cup, Mister Tough Guy uttered the
> immortal words "First we kicked the Iraqi's butt and now this". So why
> didn't he enlist and serve?? He was 30 at the time and that was
> before his cancer scare of 1993. I'll tell ya why - He's another
> republican ALL-TALK-CHICKENHAWK. Stinking hypocrites are all for war
> war war as long as they don't have to fight in it.
>
> And BTW - He has a daughter Sarah who is 21. Why doesn't Zinger send
> her to iraq?

Are you and Bret related?