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Date: 29 Sep 2006 22:42:24
From: annika1980
Subject: Which was the greater feat?
Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?

Similarly, let's say Jason Gore won 18 Nationwide events one year and
10 PGA Tour events the next. Which was the better year?

Here are the tournaments Nelson won in '45 and Hogan won in '46.
See how many you recognize.

Byron Nelson - 1945 Ben Hogan - 1946

Phoenix Open Phoenix Open
Corpus Christi Open San Antonio Texas Open
New Orleans Open St. Petersburg Open
Charlotte Open Colonial National
Invitational
Greater Greensboro Open Western Open
Durham Open Winnipeg Open
Atlanta Open Golden State Open
Montreal Open Dallas Invitational
Philadelphia Inquirer North and South Open
Chicago Victory National Open Goodall Round Robin
Tam O'Shanter Open The PGA Championship
Canadian Open Miami Four-Ball
Knoxville Invitational Inverness Four-Ball
Esmeralda Open
Seattle Open
Glen Garden Invitational
The PGA Championship
Miami Four-Ball





 
Date: 02 Oct 2006 20:43:31
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?
annika1980 wrote:
> Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
>
> Similarly, let's say Jason Gore won 18 Nationwide events one year and
> 10 PGA Tour events the next. Which was the better year?
>

Who is the best minor league baseball player of all time?


 
Date: 30 Sep 2006 19:35:28
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?

Big_Fan wrote:
>
> McSpaden? That isn't fair. That would be like putting the #1 and #3
> player together today! They would be unstoppable. :-)

Luke Donald and Sergio Garcia are holding on line 2.
Darren Clarke and Lee Westwood are holding on line 3.

As for Nelson and McSpaden, I think it would be like putting the #2 and
the #4 player together, since #1 and #3 were out of town.



 
Date: 30 Sep 2006 19:29:51
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?

multi wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2006 17:25:08 -0700, "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >annika1980 wrote:
> >> Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
> >>
> >> Similarly, let's say Jason Gore won 18 Nationwide events one year and
> >> 10 PGA Tour events the next. Which was the better year?
> >>
> >> Here are the tournaments Nelson won in '45 and Hogan won in '46.
> >> See how many you recognize.
> >>
> >> Byron Nelson - 1945 Ben Hogan - 1946
> >>
> >> Phoenix Open Phoenix Open
> >> Corpus Christi Open San Antonio Texas Open
> >> New Orleans Open St. Petersburg Open
> >> Charlotte Open Colonial National
> >> Invitational
> >> Greater Greensboro Open Western Open
> >> Durham Open Winnipeg Open
> >> Atlanta Open Golden State Open
> >> Montreal Open Dallas Invitational
> >> Philadelphia Inquirer North and South Open
> >> Chicago Victory National Open Goodall Round Robin
> >> Tam O'Shanter Open The PGA Championship
> >> Canadian Open Miami Four-Ball
> >> Knoxville Invitational Inverness Four-Ball
> >> Esmeralda Open
> >> Seattle Open
> >> Glen Garden Invitational
> >> The PGA Championship
> >> Miami Four-Ball
> >
> >Four-ball? I don't think any team events in an individual sport should
> >count towards records.
>
> The 1945 Miami Four-Ball was the first event in Byron's 11-event
> winning streak. His partner was Jug McSpaden, who set a record for
> most runner-up finishes that year. And I agree, it should not count,
> but the PGA apparently misplaced my telegram.

I'm not picking on Byron, since Hogan seems to have a couple himself.

McSpaden? That isn't fair. That would be like putting the #1 and #3
player together today! They would be unstoppable. :-)



 
Date: 30 Sep 2006 17:25:08
From: Big_Fan
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?

annika1980 wrote:
> Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
>
> Similarly, let's say Jason Gore won 18 Nationwide events one year and
> 10 PGA Tour events the next. Which was the better year?
>
> Here are the tournaments Nelson won in '45 and Hogan won in '46.
> See how many you recognize.
>
> Byron Nelson - 1945 Ben Hogan - 1946
>
> Phoenix Open Phoenix Open
> Corpus Christi Open San Antonio Texas Open
> New Orleans Open St. Petersburg Open
> Charlotte Open Colonial National
> Invitational
> Greater Greensboro Open Western Open
> Durham Open Winnipeg Open
> Atlanta Open Golden State Open
> Montreal Open Dallas Invitational
> Philadelphia Inquirer North and South Open
> Chicago Victory National Open Goodall Round Robin
> Tam O'Shanter Open The PGA Championship
> Canadian Open Miami Four-Ball
> Knoxville Invitational Inverness Four-Ball
> Esmeralda Open
> Seattle Open
> Glen Garden Invitational
> The PGA Championship
> Miami Four-Ball

Four-ball? I don't think any team events in an individual sport should
count towards records.



  
Date: 30 Sep 2006 17:49:11
From: multi
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?
On 30 Sep 2006 17:25:08 -0700, "Big_Fan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote:

>
>annika1980 wrote:
>> Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
>>
>> Similarly, let's say Jason Gore won 18 Nationwide events one year and
>> 10 PGA Tour events the next. Which was the better year?
>>
>> Here are the tournaments Nelson won in '45 and Hogan won in '46.
>> See how many you recognize.
>>
>> Byron Nelson - 1945 Ben Hogan - 1946
>>
>> Phoenix Open Phoenix Open
>> Corpus Christi Open San Antonio Texas Open
>> New Orleans Open St. Petersburg Open
>> Charlotte Open Colonial National
>> Invitational
>> Greater Greensboro Open Western Open
>> Durham Open Winnipeg Open
>> Atlanta Open Golden State Open
>> Montreal Open Dallas Invitational
>> Philadelphia Inquirer North and South Open
>> Chicago Victory National Open Goodall Round Robin
>> Tam O'Shanter Open The PGA Championship
>> Canadian Open Miami Four-Ball
>> Knoxville Invitational Inverness Four-Ball
>> Esmeralda Open
>> Seattle Open
>> Glen Garden Invitational
>> The PGA Championship
>> Miami Four-Ball
>
>Four-ball? I don't think any team events in an individual sport should
>count towards records.

The 1945 Miami Four-Ball was the first event in Byron's 11-event
winning streak. His partner was Jug McSpaden, who set a record for
most runner-up finishes that year. And I agree, it should not count,
but the PGA apparently misplaced my telegram.


 
Date: 30 Sep 2006 14:15:13
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?

Chris Bellomy wrote:
> annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
> : Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
>
> Probably Hogan's '46, but you still can't convince me that Nelson
> could have played any better than he did in '45. Anybody who can
> go weeks without missing a fairway has got it goin' on.
>

Hell, I haven't missed a fairway in over 6 months. Haven't been on
one, of course, but I haven't missed it.



  
Date: 30 Sep 2006 22:14:23
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?
annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
:
: Chris Bellomy wrote:
: > annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> wrote:
: > : Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?
: >
: > Probably Hogan's '46, but you still can't convince me that Nelson
: > could have played any better than he did in '45. Anybody who can
: > go weeks without missing a fairway has got it goin' on.
:
: Hell, I haven't missed a fairway in over 6 months. Haven't been on
: one, of course, but I haven't missed it.

Oh, you've missed it, alright. You know you have.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
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Date: 30 Sep 2006 16:58:59
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Which was the greater feat?
annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:
: Nelson winning 18 times in 1945 or Hogan winning 13 times in 1946?

Probably Hogan's '46, but you still can't convince me that Nelson
could have played any better than he did in '45. Anybody who can
go weeks without missing a fairway has got it goin' on.

--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/