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Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:43:42
From: Stephen
Subject: What do you call it?

What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
for each hole?

Date: 05 Apr 2007 23:15:44
From: Bob
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

"Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1175543022.779235.32260@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?
>

Just ran across a similar thing on the Master's web site. They call it a
ringer round ... the difference here is it's not just one guy's lowest score
it's everyone ... still pretty impressive: 33 (17-16). And the highest (no,
not Phil's round today!!) 164 (76-88).

http://www.masters.org/en_US/history/records/highest.html#hl_hole1

Bob

Date: 03 Apr 2007 15:51:43
From: Bob
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Date: 03 Apr 2007 13:06:00
From: David
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On 2 Apr 2007 12:43:42 -0700, "Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com >
wrote:

>What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>for each hole?

Dreaming

David

Date: 02 Apr 2007 21:37:07
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Apr 2, 3:52 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org >
wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2007 12:43:42 -0700, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> >for each hole?
>
> I've always called it a "Ringer Score".
> --

That's correct. Ringer score or eclectic score.
I guess your worst score on each hole might be called your epileptic
score.

Date: 03 Apr 2007 15:49:22
From: Bear
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On 2 Apr 2007 21:37:07 -0700, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com > wrote:

>On Apr 2, 3:52 pm, John van der Pflum <nowhammymyspa...@bite.org>
>wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2007 12:43:42 -0700, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>> >for each hole?
>>
>> I've always called it a "Ringer Score".
>> --
>
>That's correct. Ringer score or eclectic score.

>I guess your worst score on each hole might be called your epileptic
>score.

Funny I call it last Saturday :(

Date: 02 Apr 2007 21:15:12
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

"Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com > wrote ...
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?

Fantasy.

Randy

Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:41:12
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Apr 2, 3:43 pm, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com > wrote:
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?

I call it the "Smails".

Put me down for a 2!

Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:36:44
From: MnMikew
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:31:42
From: That_Rich
Subject: Re: Annika1980 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:01:29 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>On 2 Apr 2007 11:54:34 -0700, "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Apr 2, 4:32 am, "Carrol J D" <car...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>> Bret Douglas
>>> 3505 Oak Ridge Dr
>>> Chattanooga, TN 37415
>>> (423) 876-0393
>>> Email: annika1...@aol.com
>>
>>If you are going to post addresses at least get them right, I happen
>>to know Bret lives at 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613
>>
>>Scott
>>
>
>Weird.
> I had it as:
>333 W 35th St
>Chicago, IL 60616
> ___,
> \o
>

Date: 02 Apr 2007 21:32:53
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: Annika1980 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:31:42 -0600, That_Rich <rich@wrongaddress.net >
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:01:29 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 2 Apr 2007 11:54:34 -0700, "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Apr 2, 4:32 am, "Carrol J D" <car...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bret Douglas
>>>> 3505 Oak Ridge Dr
>>>> Chattanooga, TN 37415
>>>> (423) 876-0393
>>>> Email: annika1...@aol.com
>>>
>>>If you are going to post addresses at least get them right, I happen
>>>to know Bret lives at 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613
>>>
>>>Scott
>>>
>>
>>Weird.
>> I had it as:
>>333 W 35th St
>>Chicago, IL 60616
>>
>
>1901 West Madison
>Chicago 60612

1400 S. Museum Campus Drive
Chicago, IL 60605

That should do it.
___,
\o

Date: 02 Apr 2007 16:55:44
From: That_Rich
Subject: Re: Annika1980 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:32:53 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:31:42 -0600, That_Rich <rich@wrongaddress.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:01:29 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 2 Apr 2007 11:54:34 -0700, "Scott W" <biphoto@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Apr 2, 4:32 am, "Carrol J D" <car...@operamail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Bret Douglas
>>>>> 3505 Oak Ridge Dr
>>>>> Chattanooga, TN 37415
>>>>> (423) 876-0393
>>>>> Email: annika1...@aol.com
>>>>
>>>>If you are going to post addresses at least get them right, I happen
>>>>to know Bret lives at 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613
>>>>
>>>>Scott
>>>>
>>>
>>>Weird.
>>> I had it as:
>>>333 W 35th St
>>>Chicago, IL 60616
>>>
>>
>>1901 West Madison
>>Chicago 60612
>
>1400 S. Museum Campus Drive
> Chicago, IL 60605
>
>
> That should do it.
> ___,
> \o
>

Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:10:49
From: Peter Chant
Subject: Re: Annika1980 1060 W Addison St, Chicago, 60613

> Finis(?)

Mornington Crescent!

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Date: 02 Apr 2007 20:26:25
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: what to practice w/ golf pro?

On 2 Apr 2007 13:23:00 -0700, "WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote:

>HEY BLAGO, SUCK MY ASS!! How's that for proper grammer.

Perfect. He deserves that.

P.S. grammar.

> The rest of
>you....thanks. I'll sign up for a few more lessons. Course management
>is big, and I'm improving. I bought some Tietlest DTR irons on ebay
>cheap & regripped them w/ oversize grips. I already see a difference
>w/ these clubs. Although slightly smaller in profile from my cleveland
>quadpro's, they seem much more accurate. I'm hitting some fine shots.
>
>
>> Since you claim to be hitting the ball "pretty good" and "put pretty
>> good too", the problem must be your recovery game, as 100 sucks big
>> time. How many drops are you taking a round?
>>
>> Blago.
>>
>> PS. while your with the pro, ask him/her for some English lessons.
>
___,
\o

Date: 03 Apr 2007 10:11:02
From: Blagovest
Subject: Re: what to practice w/ golf pro?

Bobby Knight wrote:
> On 2 Apr 2007 13:23:00 -0700, "WW" <dirtymm@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> HEY BLAGO, SUCK MY ASS!! How's that for proper grammer.
>
> Perfect. He deserves that.
>
> P.S. grammar.

ROFL

Date: 02 Apr 2007 10:54:40
From: Aress Gee
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

"Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com > writes:

> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?

Considering the delusions that most golfers
operate under, I think the term is 'average.'

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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:09:28
From: Draco
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Apr 2, 3:43 pm, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com > wrote:
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?

Trophy?

Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.

Being better does.

Date: 02 Apr 2007 19:57:08
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On 2 Apr 2007 12:43:42 -0700, "Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com >
wrote:

>What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>for each hole?

I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
golf course.
___,
\o

Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:52:18
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:57:08 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net >
wrote:

>I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
>golf course.

It would have to be, otherwise, the eclectic score could consist of
all par-3s.

A good player should have a reasonable shot of scoring eagles on each
par 5 and birdies on every other hole if he plays long enough at a
course.

Date: 03 Apr 2007 00:44:10
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:52:18 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:57:08 GMT, Bobby Knight <bknight@conramp.net>
>wrote:
>
>>I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
>>golf course.
>
>It would have to be, otherwise, the eclectic score could consist of
>all par-3s.
>
>A good player should have a reasonable shot of scoring eagles on each
>par 5 and birdies on every other hole if he plays long enough at a
>course.

Well, he said the best scores *ever*. Colin is talking about a yearly
contest that they have at their club.
___,
\o

Date: 03 Apr 2007 01:03:23
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Bobby Knight wrote:

> Well, he said the best scores *ever*. Colin is talking about a yearly
> contest that they have at their club.

As an aside, 'eclectic' comes from the Greek *eklektikos*, a
philosopher's term for 'selecting from each school of thought those
doctrines that pleased him'. It derives from the Greek 'eklego', which
means 'to pick out'.

Our handicapper keeps players best hole scores in a book (I'm presently
converting the system to an Excel spreadsheet). He goes through all the
Saturday competition cards and records whether players had pars, birdies
and eagles for each of the 18 holes. The gross eclectic is 'off the
stick', normally around 52-54 wins (i.e. a birdie per hole for 18 holes,
par 70). The handicap eclectic is the gross eclectic score minus the
player's finishing handicap for the year.

BTW, anyone know an Excel formula that would total the highest three of
four selected cells i.e. for a trophy where the scores taken are the
best three of four rounds?

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Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 01:00:18
From: Joe
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Colin Wilson wrote:
>
> BTW, anyone know an Excel formula that would total the highest three of
> four selected cells i.e. for a trophy where the scores taken are the
> best three of four rounds?
>

Try

=sum(range)-min(range)

where range is the four selected cells.

If contiguous cells use colon if not contiguous, use comma

Ex:

Contiguous Range is in a1 thru a4 =sum(a1:a4)-min(a1:a4)

Non Contiguous Range is in a1 d1 e1 h1

=sum(a1,d1,e1,h1)-min(a1,d1,e1,h1)

Joe

Date: 03 Apr 2007 11:41:17
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Joe wrote:

> =sum(range)-min(range)

Works fine. Actually for Stableford and Par it's -MIN, for stroke it's
-MAX, but I figured that out myself. :-)

Thanks again for your help.

--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 09:26:48
From: Joe
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Colin Wilson wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
>> =sum(range)-min(range)
>
> Works fine. Actually for Stableford and Par it's -MIN, for stroke it's
> -MAX, but I figured that out myself. :-)
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>

my pleasure

J

Date: 03 Apr 2007 06:51:47
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Joe wrote:

> Try
>
> =sum(range)-min(range)
>
> where range is the four selected cells.
>
> If contiguous cells use colon if not contiguous, use comma
>
>
> Ex:
>
> Contiguous Range is in a1 thru a4 =sum(a1:a4)-min(a1:a4)
>
> Non Contiguous Range is in a1 d1 e1 h1
>
> =sum(a1,d1,e1,h1)-min(a1,d1,e1,h1)

Thanks a lot. I'll try that.

Sounds easy when you think of it! Problem is I can't think of it. :-(

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Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 14:05:35
From: david s-a
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Colin Wilson wrote:

> BTW, anyone know an Excel formula that would total the highest three of
> four selected cells i.e. for a trophy where the scores taken are the
> best three of four rounds?
>

Colin,

Why not 'sort' selected cells in appropriate order, then sum total cells
less discards?

eg. for highest three of four scores sort the cells into descending
order then sum the top three cells.

cheers
david

Date: 03 Apr 2007 04:29:44
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

david s-a wrote:

> Why not 'sort' selected cells in appropriate order, then sum total cells
> less discards?
>
> eg. for highest three of four scores sort the cells into descending
> order then sum the top three cells.

The spreadsheet would be for trophy events where there are four rounds,
best three of four to be taken. The sheet would have six columns, one
for the player's name, then four scores (for rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4), then
a total.

I don't think you could just sort into descending order, because one
player might drop round 1 and another might drop round 3, etc. What I'd
want is a formula for the 'total' column that for each player picks his
best scores from rounds 1, 2, 3 and 4.

--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 22:57:19
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Bobby Knight wrote:

> I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
> golf course.

Most Australian clubs have an "eclectic" trophy for the golfing season.

At least it's one the low handicappers can win. :-)

--
Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 03 Apr 2007 09:45:14
From: sfb
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Playing gross, it becomes the number of eagles trophy.

"Colin Wilson" <publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote in message
news:jTfQh.8489$M.7024@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
>> golf course.
>
> Most Australian clubs have an "eclectic" trophy for the golfing season.
>
> At least it's one the low handicappers can win. :-)
>
> --
> Cheers
> Colin Wilson
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Trentham Golf Club: http://www.trenthamgolf.com
> Barnbougle Dunes: http://publishing.kyneton.net.au/barnbougle
> ------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: 03 Apr 2007 14:26:29
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 09:45:14 -0400, "sfb" <sfb@spam.net > wrote:

>Playing gross, it becomes the number of eagles trophy.
>
Yep. My eclectic, over a 26 year period, stands at 42 on a par 71
course. The only hopes of it going lower is the possibility of a
hole in one on one of the par threes, because the 4 par fours that I
haven't eagled are now out of reasonable second shot range for me.
--
___,
\o

Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:12:28
From: Bobby Knight
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:57:19 GMT, Colin Wilson
<publish@removethis.kyneton.net.au > wrote:

>Bobby Knight wrote:
>
>> I've heard it called one's eclectic score, but that would be from one
>> golf course.
>
>Most Australian clubs have an "eclectic" trophy for the golfing season.
>
>At least it's one the low handicappers can win. :-)

What does one's handicap do with it?
___,
\o

Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:19:32
From: Colin Wilson
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

Bobby Knight wrote:

> What does one's handicap do with it?

The gross eclectic is off the stick. Not many 20-handicappers birdie
most of the holes throughout the year.

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Cheers
Colin Wilson
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:53:38
From: cja
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Apr 2, 3:43 pm, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com > wrote:
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?
>
Eclectic score.

Date: 02 Apr 2007 15:52:38
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On 2 Apr 2007 12:43:42 -0700, "Stephen" <stephen.r.gray@gmail.com >
wrote:

>What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>for each hole?

I've always called it a "Ringer Score".
--

jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:51:15
From: Herbert
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Apr 2, 2:43 pm, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com > wrote:
> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
> for each hole?

eclectic score?

Date: 02 Apr 2007 22:54:07
From: seveniron
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

"Herbert" <humphrey_Herbert@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1175543475.433641.203960@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 2, 2:43 pm, "Stephen" <stephen.r.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>> for each hole?
>
> eclectic score?
>

Usually over ten rounds
Rog

Date: 02 Apr 2007 23:49:46
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:54:07 +0100, "seveniron" <rog@repairman.com >
wrote:

>>> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>>> for each hole?
>>
>> eclectic score?
>>
>
>Usually over ten rounds

I had never heard that. I wonder if that 10 rounds thing may be
regional.

Date: 04 Apr 2007 12:06:14
From: seveniron
Subject: Re: What do you call it?

"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:54:07 +0100, "seveniron" <rog@repairman.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>> What's the term for your scorecard that includes your best ever scores
>>>> for each hole?
>>>
>>> eclectic score?
>>>
>>
>>Usually over ten rounds
>
> I had never heard that. I wonder if that 10 rounds thing may be
> regional.

Just checked with a club member, they have an Eclectic Trophy over ten
rounds, gross (lowest) score minus half handicap.
Usual names on the board are the low handicappers due to the amount of
birdies they can notch up.
Rog