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Date: 19 Mar 2007 18:44:01
From: Otto
Subject: Universal Truths
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There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
Do you have any?
I'll start with one:
1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
Any others out there?
Otto
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 16:29:58
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Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 27, 9:15 am, "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com > wrote:
> On 26, 7:51 pm, Andr...@aol.com wrote:
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> > On 22, 10:00 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net>
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> > > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > >news:1174350966.793938.241130@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > > > There are no universal truths in golf.
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> > > Herein lies much universal truth.
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> > > My subject title may be inappropriate.
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> > > Just trying to bring out those common lessons that seem to prevail.
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> > > Otto
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> > Otto's a jackass?
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> Dale Carnegie would've loved you.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
What would he have said to you? " Kiss off mate?"
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 06:15:49
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 26, 7:51 pm, Andr...@aol.com wrote:
> On 22, 10:00 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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> > "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >news:1174350966.793938.241130@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > > There are no universal truths in golf.
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> > Herein lies much universal truth.
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> > My subject title may be inappropriate.
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> > Just trying to bring out those common lessons that seem to prevail.
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> > Otto
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> Otto's a jackass?
Dale Carnegie would've loved you.
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 16:51:54
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Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 22, 10:00 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> "BigPurdueFan" <bigpu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> news:1174350966.793938.241130@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
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> > There are no universal truths in golf.
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> Herein lies much universal truth.
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> My subject title may be inappropriate.
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> Just trying to bring out those common lessons that seem to prevail.
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> Otto
Otto's a jackass?
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 02:37:24
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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Otto <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
: There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
:
: Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
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: Do you have any?
:
: I'll start with one:
:
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: 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
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: Any others out there?
When not between clubs, swing easier/smoother anyway.
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 22:51:13
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:1T3v23ekIje7N34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> When not between clubs, swing easier/smoother anyway.
OR
Swing easier/smoother.
Otto
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 12:14:23
From: me
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 19, 7:44 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
Yes, so you can see what a pure swing really looks like. Good
luck finding
the ball though.
> Any others out there?
Better to be lucky than good.
Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once and a while.
Better to be 2 out of the rough, than 3 off the tee.
There are 3 things that can happen with every shot, 2 of them are
bad.
When you're 3 down with 2 to play, you've lost.
You can put fade on a ball, and draw on a ball, I dare ya ta try
and put
STRAIGHT on a ball.
If you've got all afternoon to blow on a round of golf, you'll be
done in
3 hours. If you've got an appointment with anyone, it'll take 5.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:17:33
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"me" <oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com > wrote in message
news:1174504463.843624.213870@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Better to be lucky than good.
The harder you work, the luckier you get. ; >)
> Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once and a while.
Glasses can help.
> Better to be 2 out of the rough, than 3 off the tee.
Amen.
> There are 3 things that can happen with every shot, 2 of them are
> bad.
The voices in one's head can dominate.
> When you're 3 down with 2 to play, you've lost.
Concede and have a beverage.
> You can put fade on a ball, and draw on a ball, I dare ya ta try
> and put
> STRAIGHT on a ball.
That is the tough nut to crack. However, on many shots you don't want
straight.
> If you've got all afternoon to blow on a round of golf, you'll be
> done in
> 3 hours.
Then play another round. No sense in wasting daylight.
> If you've got an appointment with anyone, it'll take 5.
Cancel the appointment.
: >)
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 09:21:00
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On Mon, 19 2007 18:44:01 -0500, "Otto"
<ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
>There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
>Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
>Do you have any?
>
>I'll start with one:
>
>
>1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
>
>
>
>Any others out there?
>
>
>
>Otto
>
"Stop complaining about your crappy lie. Suck it up and hit the ball.
There are kids starving, for Chrissake!"
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 17:16:52
From: cankicker77
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 27, 7:12 pm, "cankicker77" <wesleykel...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On 20, 9:02 am, grizzledb...@webtv.net (Kenn Smith) wrote:
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> > The beer wench is always on the other side of the course when I am
> > dehydrated.
>
> Beer will make you laugh when you bounce a ball off the top of a golf
> cart in the fairway from the previous hole.
And when you crack a squirrel in the ribs 50 yds from the tee box bc
you weren't aiming at it, not a bad shot.
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 17:12:57
From: cankicker77
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 20, 9:02 am, grizzledb...@webtv.net (Kenn Smith) wrote:
> The beer wench is always on the other side of the course when I am
> dehydrated.
Beer will make you laugh when you bounce a ball off the top of a golf
cart in the fairway from the previous hole.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 09:02:20
From: Kenn Smith
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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The beer wench is always on the other side of the course when I am
dehydrated.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:13:17
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Kenn Smith" <grizzledbear@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:776-45FFE96C-916@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net...
> The beer wench is always on the other side of the course when I am
> dehydrated.
Amen!!
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 11:21:29
From: David
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On Mon, 19 2007 18:44:01 -0500, "Otto"
<ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
>There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
>Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
>Do you have any?
>
>I'll start with one:
>
>
>1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
If you really think that you are between clubs, think about where
you would rather be putting from. Using a longer club and swinging
smoother will most likely result in the purest shot that you ever hit
and you won't like the outcome.
>Any others out there?
The first rule when you find yourself in a greenside bunker is to
get the ball on to the putting surface.
>Otto
David
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:55:55
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"David" <dgold1958@yahoo.de > wrote in message
news:e9dvv2dkl0ppi7uob3r1fk66np8vj3e1bs@4ax.com...
> If you really think that you are between clubs, think about where
> you would rather be putting from.
An excellent point. How do you do this when playing a course you have never
played? How do you read the green from 200 yards?
> Using a longer club and swinging
> smoother will most likely result in the purest shot that you ever hit
> and you won't like the outcome.
I find my best shots are the ones that I hit pure and the ball flight and
result matches the picture in my mind. The distance is good. The line is
good. The ball sits good.
> The first rule when you find yourself in a greenside bunker is to
> get the ball on to the putting surface.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. However, I would fine tune it and say the
first rule is to get the ball out of the bunker. In a greenside situation,
that could be construed as on the putting surface. Imo, failure is only
defined by not getting the ball out of the bunker. We all want the "Sandie"
(sand save for par) but what we don't want is a double bogey because we left
the first attempt in the bunker.
Otto
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 02:51:15
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On Thu, 22 2007 20:55:55 -0500, "Otto"
<ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote:
>> If you really think that you are between clubs, think about where
>> you would rather be putting from.
>
>
>An excellent point. How do you do this when playing a course you have never
>played? How do you read the green from 200 yards?
My pro told me that when I am in between clubs - choke up. Which
means I should become as comfortable with a choked club as not.
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 08:51:26
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On Fri, 23 2007 02:51:15 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On Thu, 22 2007 20:55:55 -0500, "Otto"
><ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>> If you really think that you are between clubs, think about where
>>> you would rather be putting from.
>>
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>>An excellent point. How do you do this when playing a course you have never
>>played? How do you read the green from 200 yards?
>
>My pro told me that when I am in between clubs - choke up. Which
>means I should become as comfortable with a choked club as not.
Never use the word "choke" in golf. It's "grip down" on the club.
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 22:54:49
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:h3g603d3kdqjfr8pftcft731acp573h0ft@4ax.com...
> My pro told me that when I am in between clubs - choke up. Which
> means I should become as comfortable with a choked club as not.
I prefer to substitute for the term "choke up".
I prefer "grip down".
When conditions(slope, temp, wind) or yardage dictate a shot between clubs,
selecting the club that is longer and "gripping down" seems to work best.
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 04:03:26
From: FredK
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:ImELh.23413$sC.18351@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing
> easier/smoother.
>
>
>
> Any others out there?
>
2. Never bet with a stranger claiming a 16 hdcp who's right hand is white
against a dark tan arm.
3. Never stand in front of someone hitting a ball, or a VP firing a gun.
4. Never mix wine and beer. Ever.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:09:08
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"FredK" <fred.nospam@dec.com > wrote in message
news:i2JLh.1432$ui6.279@news.cpqcorp.net...
> 2. Never bet with a stranger claiming a 16 hdcp who's right hand is white
> against a dark tan arm.
Scary.
> 3. Never stand in front of someone hitting a ball, or a VP firing a gun.
Especially if you are a lawyer. ; >)
> 4. Never mix wine and beer. Ever.
Fun but Painful.
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 08:01:33
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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You can't do anything about your previous shot. Forget about it and
play from where you are.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:11:58
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:39qvv2lituarvugtfmvs4jciglnhvi7t8i@4ax.com...
> You can't do anything about your previous shot. Forget about it and
> play from where you are.
How do we do this?
How do we let go?
How do we maintain an even keel?
How do we stay "in the moment"?
Anyone have any practical tips we can use on the course?
Otto
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:49:15
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net > wrote in message
news:39qvv2lituarvugtfmvs4jciglnhvi7t8i@4ax.com...
> You can't do anything about your previous shot. Forget about it and
> play from where you are.
If I could only do this on every shot.
The same could be said about the previous hole; unless of course you are
playing stroke play in which you drag the collapse with you until the end of
the round/tournament.
Arggggg.
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 06:20:06
From: Tom Yost
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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FredK wrote:
>
> 4. Never mix wine and beer. Ever.
>
Wine AFTER beer is ok, but never beer after wine.
Tom
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:46:36
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Tom Yost" <tom@nunyabidness.com > wrote in message
news:icRLh.93162$6P2.48787@newsfe16.phx...
> Wine AFTER beer is ok, but never beer after wine.
I've always heard this:
Wine to beer----nothing but cheer.
Beer to liquor--a real kicker.
In other words, hard to soft is fun but soft to hard is
"BUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: >)
Otto
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 02:10:45
From: Michel Oui
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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Tom Yost wrote:
> FredK wrote:
>>
>> 4. Never mix wine and beer. Ever.
>
> Wine AFTER beer is ok, but never beer after wine.
Beer then whiskey, pretty risky
Whiskey then beer, nothing to fear
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 02:42:11
From: Robert Hamilton
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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Otto wrote:
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
>
> Any others out there?
>
People, including me, always think they are better than they are, and as a
consequence try to play agame they don't have. owever good you think you are,
you aren't. Get real and play the game you have.
R&B is one of the best examples of this I have ever seen. Even I have way more
game than he, but if we are equally prepared, he will beat me pretty much all
the time.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:06:22
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote in message
news:45FF55A8.10C0151E@att.net...
> People, including me, always think they are better than they are, and as a
> consequence try to play agame they don't have. owever good you think you
are,
> you aren't. Get real and play the game you have.
I agree---- we tend to think we can hit our best shot every time.
A major amateur flaw.
Otto
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 23:24:26
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Robert Hamilton" <DBID@att.net > wrote ...
>
>
> People, including me, always think they are better than they are, and as a
> consequence try to play agame they don't have. owever good you think you
> are,
> you aren't. Get real and play the game you have.
>
> R&B is one of the best examples of this I have ever seen. Even I have way
> more
> game than he, but if we are equally prepared, he will beat me pretty much
> all
> the time.
In fairness, I've always thought Rob had one of the prettiest golf swings
I've ever seen out of a recreational player. Whether or not he has more
game than I do, well, I won't go quite that far. I'd say we're pretty even
in the "natural skill" department, and I think I know more about the
mechanics of *MY* swing (not necessarily *THE* swing, which is an important
distinction). On a good day, I have no doubt he would beat me like a drum,
as he surely would have done the last time we played together, but got
rained out after about 5 holes (he was well on his way to leaving me behind
in a cloud of dust, although it was after I'd just sat behind the wheel of
my car driving for four hours and he was already warmed up from having just
completed an earlier round that day). But all things being equal, most
times, I would prevail. Not because I'm better, but because I have a more
reliable short game, and can putt anyone's lights out on almost any kind of
surface. That's partly because I never get nervous over a 4- or 5- footer.
I practice that length so much, I just have supreme confidence I'll make
'em, and as a result, never get too tense on lag putts because I know I'll
make the second one. Of course I won't make 'em all, but the ones I miss I
quickly forget. A selective memory is a huge asset in golf...or any sport,
for that matter.
If there's one universal golf truth that I've found, it's that putting
really is the great equalizer in golf. I've managed to keep up with (and
even beat on certain occasions) far superior players tee-to-green than I am
just because I can putt and they couldn't. That they would so routinely
reach a green in regulation, only to three-putt and lose the hole to me
after I scuffed the ball around the park, and then one-putt to save par, is
enough to drive some players bonkers. And once it does, I know I've got
'em.
Rob would be a much better player than he is if he just BELIEVED he is a
much better player. (I don't believe he honestly feels he is a better
player than he really is, despite his sometimes ridiculous boasts here. In
fact, I think those boasts sometimes haunt him on the golf course because he
knows full well he can't do some of the things he claims he can do, which
only leads to negative thoughts on the course.) If he actually played (and
talked) more within himself, and hence, started believing he's actually a
pretty darn good player, I think he'd score much, much better. I know that
sounds a little esoteric. But I believe it's true. He's got the skills,
and certainly has the smooth rhythm. But he lacks the confidence, despite
what you read here.
Randy
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:07:47
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:8NmdneRXMpZHzmLYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@giganews.com...
> If there's one universal golf truth that I've found, it's that putting
> really is the great equalizer in golf. I've managed to keep up with (and
> even beat on certain occasions) far superior players tee-to-green than I
am
> just because I can putt and they couldn't. That they would so routinely
> reach a green in regulation, only to three-putt and lose the hole to me
> after I scuffed the ball around the park, and then one-putt to save par,
is
> enough to drive some players bonkers. And once it does, I know I've got
> 'em.
; >)
My biggest goal when putting--hit the sweetspot.
Otto
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 22:21:02
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:IDGMh.160$QG2.80@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>
> ""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com> wrote in message
> news:8NmdneRXMpZHzmLYnZ2dnUVZ_sapnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> If there's one universal golf truth that I've found, it's that putting
>> really is the great equalizer in golf. I've managed to keep up with (and
>> even beat on certain occasions) far superior players tee-to-green than I
> am
>> just because I can putt and they couldn't. That they would so routinely
>> reach a green in regulation, only to three-putt and lose the hole to me
>> after I scuffed the ball around the park, and then one-putt to save par,
> is
>> enough to drive some players bonkers. And once it does, I know I've got
>> 'em.
>
>
>
>
> ;>)
>
>
>
> My biggest goal when putting--hit the sweetspot.
>
>
> Otto
Mine is merely to hit the putt I wanted to hit. If I fail to hole it (or on
longer putts, fail to lag it close) because I just flat-out misread the
putt, I can live with that. As long as I hit the putt I intended to hit, I
can't really complain much.
Today I had a real awkward putt. The green had a spine running down the
middle, from roughly 1:00 to 7:00 as you face the green from the tee. The
pin was up in the front on the left, to the left of the spine. I hung my
tee shot out to the right and hit it a little long, a few inches into the
fringe, just to the right of the spine. I figured putting it was the safest
play (although in hindsight, I wish I'd pitched it). As I sized up the
putt, I just knew the spine was going to cause the ball to break to the
right in the final stages of the putt. I just wasn't sure how far to the
left the first part of the putt would go. And I couldn't have judged it
more incorrectly. Sure enough, the first half of the putt broke left...a
lot more than I anticipated. Worse, the second half of the putt didn't come
back to the right as I though it would. And even worse still, once the ball
got past the spine, it picked up speed. I nearly putted the damn thing
clear off the green, and missed the hole by a mile to the left. Not one of
my better efforts. But I didn't get especially mad about it, because I hit
EXACTLY the putt I meant to hit. I just totally misjudged it.
It happens.
Next time I'm faced with that same shot on that hole, I'm pitching the damn
thing.
Randy
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Date: 24 Mar 2007 22:37:27
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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""R&B"" <noneofyourbusiness@all.com > wrote in message
news:8JudnTyGupQeQZjbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > ;>)
> >
> >
> >
> > My biggest goal when putting--hit the sweetspot.
> >
> >
> > Otto
>
> Mine is merely to hit the putt I wanted to hit. If I fail to hole it (or
on
> longer putts, fail to lag it close) because I just flat-out misread the
> putt, I can live with that. As long as I hit the putt I intended to hit,
I
> can't really complain much.
In terms of distance control and intended line, my biggest variable is how
close I get to contacting the ball on the exact sweet spot of the putter.
The variance in speed and line off the putter face increases exponentially
with small errors off the sweet spot of the putter.
The ball is round and the putter face is flat. That makes for a very small
gin for error.
I find that when I am putting well, it is because I am very close to making
a pure, sweet spot strike on the ball.
Otto
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 21:08:46
From: Martin Levac
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:ImELh.23413$sC.18351@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing
> easier/smoother.
>
>
>
> Any others out there?
>
>
>
> Otto
>
>
Certainly: Strike small ball first, large ball second.
Or: Put ball in hole, not foot in mouth.
Or: If you can't play, pray.
Or: If you can't use club, use pen.
Or: When you hit ball too short, hit ball again. Repeat until ball goes in
hole.
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 20:13:43
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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Otto wrote:
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
>
>
>
> Any others out there?
>
>
>
> Otto
>
>
Number Two: There are no universal truths.
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:04:57
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:568qq7F28661rU1@mid.individual.net...
> Number Two: There are no universal truths.
Point well made.
Are there any common tips that seem to hold up over time?
Otto
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Date: 23 Mar 2007 18:03:21
From: David Geesaman
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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Otto wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> news:568qq7F28661rU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Number Two: There are no universal truths.
>
>
> Point well made.
>
>
> Are there any common tips that seem to hold up over time?
>
>
> Otto
When planning a shot, plan to make the current shot as easy as possible,
rather than difficulty to make the next shot easy.
Another way to say it is: when you get into just a little bit of trouble
and make your goal of birdie/par/bogey more difficult, the next stroke
should be to get the ball back out of trouble, rather than to recover
the lost ground.
Dave
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 21:03:39
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:ImELh.23413$sC.18351@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
The short game is where you score (paraphrasing Dave Pelz)
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:04:16
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Frank Ketchum" <no-one@nowhere.com > wrote in message
news:nxGLh.369$aX1.82@newsfe05.lga...
> The short game is where you score (paraphrasing Dave Pelz)
A great one.
How many times have you heard the teachers push to work from the hole out.
Start with putting, then fringe side chipping, then the little wedgies, then
the partial wedges, then the short irons, and lastly the driver.
The short stuff is just not sexy. The big driver is sexy.
I am a big believer that a well struck drive opens up a course to good
scores. You have to hit fairways.
But the real scoring happens inside 100 yards.
Otto
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 17:53:36
From: WW
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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No peeking! When you look up you mishit. I FUCKING hate it when my bro
in law says it to me. NO SHIT, I know I flubbed it.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:01:10
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"WW" <dirtymm@msn.com > wrote in message
news:1174352016.243197.159250@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> No peeking! When you look up you mishit. I FUCKING hate it when my bro
> in law says it to me. NO SHIT, I know I flubbed it.
LOL!!
I feel your pain!!!!!!!
Otto
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 17:36:06
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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On 19, 7:44 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net >
wrote:
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
>
> Any others out there?
>
> Otto
I've only got one:
There are no universal truths in golf.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 21:00:34
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1174350966.793938.241130@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> There are no universal truths in golf.
Herein lies much universal truth.
My subject title may be inappropriate.
Just trying to bring out those common lessons that seem to prevail.
Otto
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 00:49:38
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"BigPurdueFan" <bigpufan@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1174350966.793938.241130@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 19, 7:44 pm, "Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
> >
> > Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and
universal.
> >
> > Do you have any?
> >
> > I'll start with one:
> >
> > 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing
easier/smoother.
> >
> > Any others out there?
> >
> > Otto
>
> I've only got one:
>
> There are no universal truths in golf.
>
>
Not quite properly stated.
"There are no universal truths in golf, and this univeral truth in golf is
not an exception to this rule".
dave
ps. Hmm, could this be this system's Godel Statement?
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 20:15:14
From: MoiMoi
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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In article <ImELh.23413$sC.18351@bignews2.bellsouth.net >, "Otto"
<ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > says...
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing easier/smoother.
And perfectly flush it right over the green, your only pro-length shot
of the round. For a double or worse.
MM
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:59:25
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"MoiMoi" <moimoi@example.com > wrote in message
news:MPG.2068f19be9fd2a06989728@news.individual.net...
> And perfectly flush it right over the green, your only pro-length shot
> of the round. For a double or worse.
Rare.
Severe overshoots will be driven by slope, temperature, and winds.
You just aren't going to overhit a club that much unless of course you have
totally misjudged actual distance or your ability.
Rangefinders rule!!
; >)
Otto
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 19:00:45
From: 3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"Otto" <ottondebREMOVE%$#%^%$@@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:ImELh.23413$sC.18351@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> There must be many universal truths pertaining to golf.
>
> Ideas that all handicappers can use. Simple, to the point, and universal.
>
> Do you have any?
>
> I'll start with one:
>
>
> 1. When between clubs, always use the longer club and swing
> easier/smoother.
>
>
>
> Any others out there?
>
>
>
> Otto
>
Sure. No lessons from strangers unless you know their qualifications.
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 20:57:18
From: Otto
Subject: Re: Universal Truths
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"3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina" <3putt@PawleysIslandSC > wrote in message
news:45ff161d$0$17140$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Sure. No lessons from strangers unless you know their qualifications.
The flip side is you might be surprised by what you can learn from a person
with no qualifications.
You might be surprised what you can learn from the worst golfer in the
world.
Otto
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