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Date: 28 Jan 2007 15:54:12
From: Ben.
Subject: Torrey South in '08??
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Will this sea level 7568 yard beast be a par 70 in '08?!? Could the
USGA be this dastardly an organization? Hell, why not gorw the rough
to 9", make all the greens rodan style, and narrow the fairways to 22
yards. Anyway, the par 5's are as follows:
#6 - 560
#9 - 613
#13 - 541
#18 - 571
Not sure of the tee layouts, but the obvious candidates are six and 13
- one on the front and one on the back converted to par fours. Shave
~ 60 and 40 yards per hole, and you've still got close to 7500 yards.
This is gonna be awesome! Who's got the extrees?
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Date: 29 Jan 2007 17:33:58
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: Torrey South in '08??
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On Jan 29, 7:19 pm, "Darrell Jefress" <eve...@tokyo.com > wrote:
> Another question about this layout is whether the Tour has rescinded their
> rule, or if the rule never really existed, that the same course could not be
> used twice in the same year for different events. I remember one year -
> could it have been '95? - when the LA Open had to be moved away from Riviera
> because the PGA Championship was being played there that year.
>
Was it 2000 when the US Open was at Pebble Beach? They had 2
tournaments
there that year.
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Date: 30 Jan 2007 01:19:21
From: Darrell Jefress
Subject: Re: Torrey South in '08??
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"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1170028452.155614.77750@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Will this sea level 7568 yard beast be a par 70 in '08?!? Could the
> USGA be this dastardly an organization? Hell, why not gorw the rough
> to 9", make all the greens rodan style, and narrow the fairways to 22
> yards. Anyway, the par 5's are as follows:
>
> #6 - 560
> #9 - 613
> #13 - 541
> #18 - 571
>
> Not sure of the tee layouts, but the obvious candidates are six and 13
> - one on the front and one on the back converted to par fours. Shave
> ~ 60 and 40 yards per hole, and you've still got close to 7500 yards.
> This is gonna be awesome! Who's got the extrees?
I wish I could remember where, but I just read over the weekend that the
USGA has already picked which of the two will be made 4s, and that they will
play significantly shorter than their current yardage. (Nor can I remember
which two they were.)
Another question about this layout is whether the Tour has rescinded their
rule, or if the rule never really existed, that the same course could not be
used twice in the same year for different events. I remember one year -
could it have been '95? - when the LA Open had to be moved away from Riviera
because the PGA Championship was being played there that year.
It could have been a contractual thing with the PGA, rather than a Tour
rule, I suppose.
DJJ
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Date: 29 Jan 2007 20:37:39
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Torrey South in '08??
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The '95 La Open might have been conditioning the course for the PGA
Championship. Your rule probably isn't as there are three organizations in
the mix - PGA Tour, PGA of America, and the USGA - and counter examples -
Crosby and US Open at Pebble Beach.
"Darrell Jefress" <evely7@tokyo.com > wrote in message
news:t2xvh.482924$Fi1.25601@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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> "Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1170028452.155614.77750@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Will this sea level 7568 yard beast be a par 70 in '08?!? Could the
>> USGA be this dastardly an organization? Hell, why not gorw the rough
>> to 9", make all the greens rodan style, and narrow the fairways to 22
>> yards. Anyway, the par 5's are as follows:
>>
>> #6 - 560
>> #9 - 613
>> #13 - 541
>> #18 - 571
>>
>> Not sure of the tee layouts, but the obvious candidates are six and 13
>> - one on the front and one on the back converted to par fours. Shave
>> ~ 60 and 40 yards per hole, and you've still got close to 7500 yards.
>> This is gonna be awesome! Who's got the extrees?
>
> I wish I could remember where, but I just read over the weekend that the
> USGA has already picked which of the two will be made 4s, and that they
> will
> play significantly shorter than their current yardage. (Nor can I remember
> which two they were.)
>
> Another question about this layout is whether the Tour has rescinded their
> rule, or if the rule never really existed, that the same course could not
> be
> used twice in the same year for different events. I remember one year -
> could it have been '95? - when the LA Open had to be moved away from
> Riviera
> because the PGA Championship was being played there that year.
>
> It could have been a contractual thing with the PGA, rather than a Tour
> rule, I suppose.
>
> DJJ
>
>
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Date: 29 Jan 2007 02:14:08
From: \R&B\
Subject: Re: Torrey South in '08??
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Considering that three of those par fives are easily reachable in two by
most pro golfers, you can bet that the USGA will convert a couple of them to
par fours.
I mean, think about it. #18, which is the second longest of the four par
fives, is routinely reached in two (if the player finds the fairway off the
tee). So you KNOW the shorter two are not going to be par fives when the
USGA circus comes to town.
Randy
"Ben." <kombi45@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1170028452.155614.77750@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Will this sea level 7568 yard beast be a par 70 in '08?!? Could the
> USGA be this dastardly an organization? Hell, why not gorw the rough
> to 9", make all the greens rodan style, and narrow the fairways to 22
> yards. Anyway, the par 5's are as follows:
>
> #6 - 560
> #9 - 613
> #13 - 541
> #18 - 571
>
> Not sure of the tee layouts, but the obvious candidates are six and 13
> - one on the front and one on the back converted to par fours. Shave
> ~ 60 and 40 yards per hole, and you've still got close to 7500 yards.
> This is gonna be awesome! Who's got the extrees?
>
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