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Date: 27 Oct 2006 16:41:29
From: multi
Subject: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
"I want to let everyone know that I have decided not to play in The
TOUR Championship next week in Atlanta. Playing seven out of nine
weeks with an additional trip to Ireland for Ryder Cup practice was
taxing both mentally and physically and I feel like I need another
week away from competitive golf. I'm confident that this extended
break will help me to recharge my batteries for the 2007 season.

"I want to stress to everyone that missing The TOUR Championship for
the first time in my pro career is in no way a reflection of my
feelings towards the event. I am extremely excited to compete in next
year's FedExCup and inaugural PGA TOUR Playoffs, including The TOUR
Championship."

So he'd still rather sleep in than play golf, but at least he read my
post about the Vardon, and he didn't trash the TC to add insult to
injury.




 
Date: 15 Nov 2006 14:01:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
During his 11-consecutive streak in 1945, Byron Nelson checked himself
into the Mayo Clinic because of exhaustion.

I wonder if Tiger's streak could have been even more exhausting than
the stress of his Father's death.

I know that even when I am working or playing at my highest level for
a short amount of time, that tension can get quite tiring.


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 06:39:14
From: oconnell@slr.orl.lmco.com
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
ti285@umn.edu wrote:
[snip]
>
> And just maybe it is something personal that he wishes not to disclose
> so he comes up with a plausible reason to maintain his privacy. We
> can't know so why speculate on the details of any possible reason

Same reason we speculate on why Phil chokes, why Annika
played a men's tournament, why Vijay doesn't like Phil, etc.
You might re-read the newsgroup charter and see the entire
purpose and intent of the newsgroup in general.

About the only thing apparently we aren't suppose to speculate
upon is why ANGC doesn't want women members. THAT
is off limits.



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 21:57:44
From:
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
Tiger is world #1 has more money then he knows what to do with and has
won a heap of tournaments this year. I can see how he could be lacking
some motivation theres not much left he can do at the moment plus its
not just the golf its the media and sponsorship commitments that would
be the major drag on his energy levels i suspect.



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 13:33:16
From:
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

multi wrote:
> "I want to let everyone know that I have decided not to play in The
> TOUR Championship next week in Atlanta. Playing seven out of nine
> weeks with an additional trip to Ireland for Ryder Cup practice was
> taxing both mentally and physically and I feel like I need another
> week away from competitive golf. I'm confident that this extended
> break will help me to recharge my batteries for the 2007 season.
>
> "I want to stress to everyone that missing The TOUR Championship for
> the first time in my pro career is in no way a reflection of my
> feelings towards the event. I am extremely excited to compete in next
> year's FedExCup and inaugural PGA TOUR Playoffs, including The TOUR
> Championship."
>
> So he'd still rather sleep in than play golf, but at least he read my
> post about the Vardon, and he didn't trash the TC to add insult to
> injury.

Plus Tiger will probably get more money by going to China the next week
than he could
earn from the TC.
Taz



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 10:18:03
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

multi wrote:
> On 28 Oct 2006 06:27:17 -0700, "Mr 10" <jongreenmr10@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Is professional golf the most demanding of
> >all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
> >season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.
> >Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
> >play, and are forced to play with nagging injuries.
>
> I refuse to believe that anybody in good shape can be so tired, after
> seven weeks of playing golf, that it takes a month to recover. Most
> guys, in much worse shape than Tiger, would consider it a vacation.

Most guys don't have to shot 68 every time to compete.

I'm sure it's much more taxing on the mental side of things than the
physical side.



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 09:48:01
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

> I can't imagine a more demanding schedule than someone like him, who has
> extreme demands on his time.

And then there's Elin. That's got to wear him out two or three times a
day.

It's good to be the King.



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 09:45:56
From: BigPurdueFan
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

sfb wrote:
> Are you telling us the greatest golfer in the history of the game doesn't
> have the guts to say no? If Tiger has extreme demands on his time, he need
> only look in the mirror to find the culprit.
>
> "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6%K0h.1056$nG1.522@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
> >
> > I can't imagine a more demanding schedule than someone like him, who has
> > extreme demands on his time.
> >

And he did say "No", to the Tour Championship. Just like Phil did.



 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 06:27:17
From: Mr 10
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
So let's see, Tiger's last competitive tournament was the last weekend
of September, so he's had three weeks off and is drained after playing
the fewer PGA tour events than almost everyone in the top 125. OK, he
played the Ryder Cup and some other events around the World.

I won't judge TOO much, he's probably telling the truth about not
feeling up to it, although for such a big tournament, he probably could
suck it up.

It begs a question though. Is professional golf the most demanding of
all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.
Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
play, and are forced to play with nagging injuries.

Golf could be though, tournament weeks they play 4 or 5 hour rounds 4
days straight, not including practice rounds, practice on the range,
working out, etc. When they're not playing, they probably have to
spend a fair amount of time practicing to keep sharp, although I'll bet
they get a lot more days off than players in other sports, especially
those who can take 3 or 4 weeks off straight during the season.

Tiger takes more weeks off than any other player, although I don't know
what he's doing during that time. It would seem that he'd be the last
one to have to take off the Tour Championship because he's tired.

Jon



  
Date: 31 Oct 2006 09:32:01
From:
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
In article <1162042037.201670.306530@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
"Mr 10" <jongreenmr10@yahoo.com > wrote:

> So let's see, Tiger's last competitive tournament was the last weekend
> of September, so he's had three weeks off and is drained after playing
> the fewer PGA tour events than almost everyone in the top 125. OK, he
> played the Ryder Cup and some other events around the World.
>
> I won't judge TOO much, he's probably telling the truth about not
> feeling up to it, although for such a big tournament, he probably could
> suck it up.
>
> It begs a question though. Is professional golf the most demanding of
> all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
> season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.
> Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
> play, and are forced to play with nagging injuries.
>
> Golf could be though, tournament weeks they play 4 or 5 hour rounds 4
> days straight, not including practice rounds, practice on the range,
> working out, etc. When they're not playing, they probably have to
> spend a fair amount of time practicing to keep sharp, although I'll bet
> they get a lot more days off than players in other sports, especially
> those who can take 3 or 4 weeks off straight during the season.
>
> Tiger takes more weeks off than any other player, although I don't know
> what he's doing during that time. It would seem that he'd be the last
> one to have to take off the Tour Championship because he's tired.


And just maybe it is something personal that he wishes not to disclose
so he comes up with a plausible reason to maintain his privacy. We
can't know so why speculate on the details of any possible reason?

B. tin


  
Date: 28 Oct 2006 18:19:50
From: Mark A
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
"Mr 10" <jongreenmr10@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1162042037.201670.306530@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> So let's see, Tiger's last competitive tournament was the last weekend
> of September, so he's had three weeks off and is drained after playing
> the fewer PGA tour events than almost everyone in the top 125. OK, he
> played the Ryder Cup and some other events around the World.
>
> I won't judge TOO much, he's probably telling the truth about not
> feeling up to it, although for such a big tournament, he probably could
> suck it up.
>
> It begs a question though. Is professional golf the most demanding of
> all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
> season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.
> Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
> play, and are forced to play with nagging injuries.
>
> Golf could be though, tournament weeks they play 4 or 5 hour rounds 4
> days straight, not including practice rounds, practice on the range,
> working out, etc. When they're not playing, they probably have to
> spend a fair amount of time practicing to keep sharp, although I'll bet
> they get a lot more days off than players in other sports, especially
> those who can take 3 or 4 weeks off straight during the season.
>
> Tiger takes more weeks off than any other player, although I don't know
> what he's doing during that time. It would seem that he'd be the last
> one to have to take off the Tour Championship because he's tired.
>
> Jon


There are two things to consider:

First, Tiger actually has 4 more scheduled events to play this year, 2 of
which are in Asia, and one in Hawaii (which is 5 time zones from his home).
These do not include any private events, filming of commercials, etc, that
he may be obligated to show up for that he typically does in the "off
season".

- 11/9/06 HSBC Champions Tournament, Sheshan Golf Club, Shanghai, China

- 011/16/06 Dunlop Phoenix Tournament, Phoenix Country Club, Miyazaki, Japan

- 11/21/06 PGA Grand Slam of Golf, Poipu Bay Golf Course, Kauai, Hawaii

- 12/14/06 Target World Challenge presented by Countrywide, Sherwood Country
Club, Thousand Oaks, Calif.

Secondly, If someone gave me $1 million, I would have enough (with my other
investments) to retire immediately, and I would never work again. Tiger has
a net worth of probably $500 million by now (he gets $80 million per year in
endorsements), so he feels like someone that wealthy should not half to work
full time. I wouldn't either.




  
Date: 28 Oct 2006 15:50:26
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

"Mr 10" <jongreenmr10@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1162042037.201670.306530@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> It begs a question though. Is professional golf the most demanding of
> all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
> season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.

But they mostly watch daisies grow while they "play", or sit in the dugout
most of the day watching TV and chewing tobacco.

> Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
> play

Except that it's only once a week and their season is shorter

> and are forced to play with nagging injuries.

And so are golfers.

> Tiger takes more weeks off than any other player, although I don't know
> what he's doing during that time. It would seem that he'd be the last
> one to have to take off the Tour Championship because he's tired.

I can't imagine a more demanding schedule than someone like him, who has
extreme demands on his time.




   
Date: 28 Oct 2006 12:05:01
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
Are you telling us the greatest golfer in the history of the game doesn't
have the guts to say no? If Tiger has extreme demands on his time, he need
only look in the mirror to find the culprit.

"jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:6%K0h.1056$nG1.522@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
>
> I can't imagine a more demanding schedule than someone like him, who has
> extreme demands on his time.
>




  
Date: 28 Oct 2006 07:27:07
From: multi
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
On 28 Oct 2006 06:27:17 -0700, "Mr 10" <jongreenmr10@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Is professional golf the most demanding of
>all major sports?? Baseball players play almost every day during the
>season and do a heck of a lot of traveling, hectic schudules, etc.
>Hockey and football players get their clocks cleaned every time they
>play, and are forced to play with nagging injuries.

I refuse to believe that anybody in good shape can be so tired, after
seven weeks of playing golf, that it takes a month to recover. Most
guys, in much worse shape than Tiger, would consider it a vacation.
And Tiger didn't have a lot of stress during all of those weeks,
either. He only played one day at the Wentworth match play, and he
won in a walk in his last event, the Amex, so he should have been fine
with a week's rest at most.

On the other hand, his business activities are likely very
time-consuming, especially without his Dad to help him. He is
probably breaking in new advisors, and is not able to trust any of
them the way he trusted Earl. That has to be hard with so many
millions at stake, and that's probably why he's tired.


   
Date: 28 Oct 2006 15:51:18
From: jeffc
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

"multi" <multi@asm.org > wrote in message
news:9pp6k2h8cbnp4c5n04diqfh1atie2j36s6@4ax.com...
>
> I refuse to believe that anybody in good shape can be so tired, after
> seven weeks of playing golf, that it takes a month to recover.

It's not really that kind of tired. Ever take an 8 hour drive somewhere,
and when you get there you just want to sit on the couch and have a drink?




    
Date: 28 Oct 2006 08:58:53
From: multi
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:51:18 GMT, "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com > wrote:
>"multi" <multi@asm.org> wrote in message
>news:9pp6k2h8cbnp4c5n04diqfh1atie2j36s6@4ax.com...
>>
>> I refuse to believe that anybody in good shape can be so tired, after
>> seven weeks of playing golf, that it takes a month to recover.
>
>It's not really that kind of tired. Ever take an 8 hour drive somewhere,
>and when you get there you just want to sit on the couch and have a drink?

Sure, but not for a month.



     
Date: 28 Oct 2006 12:27:42
From: Bert Robbins
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
multi wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:51:18 GMT, "jeffc" <jeffc226@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "multi" <multi@asm.org> wrote in message
>> news:9pp6k2h8cbnp4c5n04diqfh1atie2j36s6@4ax.com...
>>> I refuse to believe that anybody in good shape can be so tired, after
>>> seven weeks of playing golf, that it takes a month to recover.
>> It's not really that kind of tired. Ever take an 8 hour drive somewhere,
>> and when you get there you just want to sit on the couch and have a drink?
>
> Sure, but not for a month.
>

If I had already won 70 real-large and had the string of victories like
Tiger has lately. I wouldn't have a problem taking a month off.

Does Tiger work for you?


 
Date: 28 Oct 2006 01:40:32
From: Manco
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship
multi wrote:
> "I want to let everyone know that I have decided not to play in The
> TOUR Championship next week in Atlanta. Playing seven out of nine
> weeks with an additional trip to Ireland for Ryder Cup practice was
> taxing both mentally and physically and I feel like I need another
> week away from competitive golf. I'm confident that this extended
> break will help me to recharge my batteries for the 2007 season.
>
> "I want to stress to everyone that missing The TOUR Championship for
> the first time in my pro career is in no way a reflection of my
> feelings towards the event. I am extremely excited to compete in next
> year's FedExCup and inaugural PGA TOUR Playoffs, including The TOUR
> Championship."
>
> So he'd still rather sleep in than play golf, but at least he read my
> post about the Vardon, and he didn't trash the TC to add insult to
> injury.

So does Furyk win the Vardon?




  
Date: 27 Oct 2006 23:54:13
From: SJ
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com > wrote in message
news:kyy0h.77$Gg5.30@trndny02...
multi wrote:
> "I want to let everyone know that I have decided not to play in The
> TOUR Championship next week in Atlanta. Playing seven out of nine
> weeks with an additional trip to Ireland for Ryder Cup practice was
> taxing both mentally and physically and I feel like I need another
> week away from competitive golf. I'm confident that this extended
> break will help me to recharge my batteries for the 2007 season.
>
> "I want to stress to everyone that missing The TOUR Championship for
> the first time in my pro career is in no way a reflection of my
> feelings towards the event. I am extremely excited to compete in next
> year's FedExCup and inaugural PGA TOUR Playoffs, including The TOUR
> Championship."
>
> So he'd still rather sleep in than play golf, but at least he read my
> post about the Vardon, and he didn't trash the TC to add insult to
> injury.

So does Furyk win the Vardon?

Yea, I would think he would.






 
Date: 27 Oct 2006 18:18:15
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: Tiger skipping Tour Championship

multi wrote:
> "I want to let everyone know that I have decided not to play in The
> TOUR Championship next week in Atlanta. Playing seven out of nine
> weeks with an additional trip to Ireland for Ryder Cup practice was
> taxing both mentally and physically and I feel like I need another
> week away from competitive golf. I'm confident that this extended
> break will help me to recharge my batteries for the 2007 season.
>
> "I want to stress to everyone that missing The TOUR Championship for
> the first time in my pro career is in no way a reflection of my
> feelings towards the event. I am extremely excited to compete in next
> year's FedExCup and inaugural PGA TOUR Playoffs, including The TOUR
> Championship."
>
> So he'd still rather sleep in than play golf, but at least he read my
> post about the Vardon, and he didn't trash the TC to add insult to
> injury.

At first i though this was a joke thread but it's true and very
surprising. Els had a snippy comment to make about it

"Tiger's not playing?" Ernie Els said Friday after a 5-under 66 in the
Chrysler Championship, leaving him one shot out of the lead.

He wondered aloud whether Woods was trying to protect his winning
streak -- six straight on the PGA Tour -- but did not begrudge Woods or
Mickelson for skipping the Tour Championship.

http://sports.espn.go.com/golf/news/story?id=2640959