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Date: 12 Sep 2006 23:24:30
From: shivas irons
Subject: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
hardest to get out of!
Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
number is 72%. Woopee! All the technology and world class instruction
and balls that don't hook or slice and training aids coming out the yin
tang. And the number of players that now break 90 has went up by a
wopping 3% in over 30 years!
These lies we tell ourselves about buying a better game are fantasies
and serve only to limit out true potential as players. A good dose of
inner game reality is long over due in my humbly biased opinion!
It has been my direct experience that a strong mental game is superior
to every other form of golf instruction, education, training and
practice combined. Give me a player with the pretty swing and a well
grooved swing path or a guy who has a home made swing and a killer
mental toughness and I'll take player number two everyday!
They say the game is all in your mind...well I like to say it's all in
your mind's eye.
Wade Pearse
www.golf-mental-game-coach.com
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 18:20:54
From: Mister Hand
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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JJK wrote:
> "shivas irons" wrote:
> <snip>
> > Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> > number is 72%. Woopee! <snip>
>
>
> On average, which 25% of every golfer breaks 90?
50% of the time I break 90 100% of the time.
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 12:48:59
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> shivas irons wrote:
> > No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
> > cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
> >
> > The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
> > I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
> > scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
> > hardest to get out of!
> >
>
> The new equipment is a giant hoax and idiot golfers fall for it all the
> time.
Right, that's why they're talking about rolling back the golf ball for
the past 5 years, because new technology doesn't mean anything. IDIOT!
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 11:23:50
From: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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shivas irons wrote:
> No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
> cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
>
> The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
> I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
> scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
> hardest to get out of!
>
The new equipment is a giant hoax and idiot golfers fall for it all the
time. They think that a new set of $1000 clubs will knock 5 strokes off
their game. But then all americans are idiots. They are more worried
about terrorists than the drunk driver who lives down the street.
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 10:00:55
From:
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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shivas irons wrote:
> No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
> cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
>
> The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
> I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
> scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
> hardest to get out of!
>
> Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> number is 72%. Woopee! All the technology and world class instruction
> and balls that don't hook or slice and training aids coming out the yin
> tang. And the number of players that now break 90 has went up by a
> wopping 3% in over 30 years!
>
> These lies we tell ourselves about buying a better game are fantasies
> and serve only to limit out true potential as players. A good dose of
> inner game reality is long over due in my humbly biased opinion!
>
> It has been my direct experience that a strong mental game is superior
> to every other form of golf instruction, education, training and
> practice combined. Give me a player with the pretty swing and a well
> grooved swing path or a guy who has a home made swing and a killer
> mental toughness and I'll take player number two everyday!
>
> They say the game is all in your mind...well I like to say it's all in
> your mind's eye.
>
> Wade Pearse
> www.golf-mental-game-coach.com
What, no Larry jokes?!
CJ
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Date: 14 Sep 2006 09:26:09
From: Steven Paul
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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In article <1158128669.917259.109850@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >,
shivas irons <googlekey@secretsite.zzn.com > wrote:
> Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> number is 72%. Woopee! All the technology and world class instruction
> and balls that don't hook or slice and training aids coming out the yin
> tang. And the number of players that now break 90 has went up by a
> wopping 3% in over 30 years!
On the other hand, if it was 25% and now it's 28%, that's a 12%
increase.
The golfers I know would be knocking pople down to get to the store if
they could buy equipment that improved their game by 12%.
(Yes, I'm just playing with the numbers.)
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 17:40:45
From: pete z
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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shivas irons wrote:
> No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
> cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
>
> The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
> I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
> scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
> hardest to get out of!
>
> Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> number is 72%. Woopee! All the technology and world class instruction
> and balls that don't hook or slice and training aids coming out the yin
> tang. And the number of players that now break 90 has went up by a
> wopping 3% in over 30 years!
>
> These lies we tell ourselves about buying a better game are fantasies
> and serve only to limit out true potential as players. A good dose of
> inner game reality is long over due in my humbly biased opinion!
>
> It has been my direct experience that a strong mental game is superior
> to every other form of golf instruction, education, training and
> practice combined. Give me a player with the pretty swing and a well
> grooved swing path or a guy who has a home made swing and a killer
> mental toughness and I'll take player number two everyday!
>
> They say the game is all in your mind...well I like to say it's all in
> your mind's eye.
>
> Wade Pearse
> www.golf-mental-game-coach.com
Has went up? What percentage of posters on rsg can write using correct
basic
English. Probably 75%.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 13:20:22
From: Miss Anne Thrope
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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The worst lie in golf.
"I'm not impotent, and people really like me."
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Date: 15 Sep 2006 03:33:42
From: Sparky
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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On 13-Sep-2006, High_Colonic@webtv.net (Miss Anne Thrope) wrote:
> The worst lie in golf.
>
> "I'm not impotent, and people really like me."
http://www.considereddesign.com/photos/boise/cricket.jpg
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 09:31:05
From: sfb
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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We're only playing 18. I'll be home in time to go to your mother's with you.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 06:00:05
From: Larry Bud
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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shivas irons wrote:
> No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
> cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
>
> The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
> I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
> scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
> hardest to get out of!
>
> Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> number is 72%.
You're giving a perfect example of junk science. Without having a
control group, or knowledge of the population sample, or a measure of
the difficulty of the course, your statement is dishonest at best.
Everybody and their mother "plays" golf now, so of course the average
score wouldn't go down. A real measure of if technology improves
scores is to have a control group before and after the technology
improvement.
Since we don't have that, let's use common sense. Bigger headed
drivers, perimeter weighted irons, and hybrid clubs are ALL easier to
hit (Easier=mishits aren't as punishing with these clubs and well
struck balls go farther) than their counterparts of 10, 20, and 30
years ago. So everything else being equal, scores would go down
because of it.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 08:16:45
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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Larry Bud wrote:
> shivas irons wrote:
>
>>No it aint when you find your bal plugged beneath the lip of a
>>cavernous bunker! There are lies that are far worse than that.
>>
>>The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves about the game. Like "If
>>I have a perfect swing I'll be a better player" or "Technology improves
>>scores". Now these are some seriously bad lies. Because they're the
>>hardest to get out of!
>>
>>Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
>>number is 72%.
>
>
> You're giving a perfect example of junk science. Without having a
> control group, or knowledge of the population sample, or a measure of
> the difficulty of the course, your statement is dishonest at best.
>
> Everybody and their mother "plays" golf now, so of course the average
> score wouldn't go down. A real measure of if technology improves
> scores is to have a control group before and after the technology
> improvement.
>
> Since we don't have that, let's use common sense. Bigger headed
> drivers, perimeter weighted irons, and hybrid clubs are ALL easier to
> hit (Easier=mishits aren't as punishing with these clubs and well
> struck balls go farther) than their counterparts of 10, 20, and 30
> years ago. So everything else being equal, scores would go down
> because of it.
>
To say nothing of whether they play by the rules or not.
I wonder what percentage of all golfers (defined as people who play at
least 6 times per year, 18 holes, let's say) could, if they played by
the rules of golf at an average course (slope=113), could produce a
score under 90.
My guess is fewer than 10 percent. That "no mulligans" stuff is hard!
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 19:14:14
From: Frank Ketchum
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@clubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:4mqeltF7capiU1@individual.net...
>
> I wonder what percentage of all golfers (defined as people who play at
> least 6 times per year, 18 holes, let's say) could, if they played by the
> rules of golf at an average course (slope=113), could produce a score
> under 90.
>
I would love to see some stats on things like this. Also sort of along the
lines of what the op mentioned, what percentages of golfers have ever broken
100, 90, 80, par etc. Does anyone know of a source for statistical info
like this?
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 22:07:05
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 19:14:14 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
<fketchum@earthlinknospaam.net > wrote:
>I would love to see some stats on things like this. Also sort of along the
>lines of what the op mentioned, what percentages of golfers have ever broken
>100, 90, 80, par etc. Does anyone know of a source for statistical info
>like this?
Make sure to find out what the assumptions were used in defining
"golfer", and even what rules the people polled were using.
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 12:38:11
From: JJK
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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"shivas irons" wrote:
<snip >
> Since 1975 up 'til 2004 75% of every golfer never broke 90. Now that
> number is 72%. Woopee! <snip>
On average, which 25% of every golfer breaks 90?
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Date: 13 Sep 2006 11:19:50
From: Tranny
Subject: Re: The worst "Lie" in golf...
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Spamming twat!
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