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Date: 08 Apr 2007 21:54:56
From: warren montgomery
Subject: The shot nobody is talking about
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That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going to
hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new shaft,
but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury, either to his
wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came free and
bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a shot knowing the follow
through was going to break the club. Did he ever practice something like
that to know he had the nerve to go through with it? If Tiger had won, I
would be nominating that one, not the shot into the 13th that set up the
eagle, as the one that did it.
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 07:19:53
From: johnty
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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On 9 Apr, 14:42, "warren montgomery" <wamontgom...@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:
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> I wondered about that. Yes, the rules say you can replace the club, but are
> there any limits on how? Can anyone bring him a new club or must it be done
> by himself or his caddy? I suppose it's okay to make a phone call and have
> someone bring it to him, but it's one more way in which the professional
> game is different from the one the rest of us play I guess.
If you have someone to get a replacement club for you, then you can do
it. Tiger probably has more willing volunteers for this sort of thing
(moving boulders, etc) than you - popular though you undoubtedly are -
but the rules are no different.
> Another question
> that occurred to us was whether he had to replace it with the same club. If
> not I could imagine deciding that there was no further use for whatever long
> iron was broken but that an extra wedge or a second driver might help in the
> final holes.
That is ok.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 11:53:47
From: Howard Brazee
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:54:56 -0500, "warren montgomery"
<wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
>That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
>follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going to
>hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new shaft,
>but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury, either to his
>wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came free and
>bounced back at him.
It was an amazing shot. It appeared that he pretty much let go of
the club in the back swing to lessen the impact on his hand, but was
still rubbing his wrist. And he was expecting a rebound which might
hit him.
I wonder if he had another shot at that club's distance. Not that it
makes much difference with him.
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 08:57:51
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:53:47 GMT, Howard Brazee <howard@brazee.net >
wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 21:54:56 -0500, "warren montgomery"
><wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
>>follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going to
>>hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new shaft,
>>but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury, either to his
>>wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came free and
>>bounced back at him.
>
>It was an amazing shot. It appeared that he pretty much let go of
>the club in the back swing to lessen the impact on his hand, but was
>still rubbing his wrist. And he was expecting a rebound which might
>hit him.
>
>I wonder if he had another shot at that club's distance. Not that it
>makes much difference with him.
It doesn't matter. I'm sure the club was replaced before he got to
the next tee.
--
jvdp
RSG Cincinnati July 13-15, 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 11 Apr 2007 11:00:12
From: David
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:57:51 -0400, John van der Pflum
<nowhammymyspammy@bite.org > wrote:
<snipped >
>It doesn't matter. I'm sure the club was replaced before he got to
>the next tee.
I am sure that he did not have the club replaced. If he had, it
would have been shown during the telecast. He only needed that club
for one more shot, anyway, so I am sure it was not sorely missed.
David
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 08:42:11
From: warren montgomery
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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>>
>>I wonder if he had another shot at that club's distance. Not that it
>>makes much difference with him.
>
> It doesn't matter. I'm sure the club was replaced before he got to
> the next tee.
>
I wondered about that. Yes, the rules say you can replace the club, but are
there any limits on how? Can anyone bring him a new club or must it be done
by himself or his caddy? I suppose it's okay to make a phone call and have
someone bring it to him, but it's one more way in which the professional
game is different from the one the rest of us play I guess. If I break a
club (and I have several times), even if I have another club to replace it
it's not going to be in the bag and I don't have anyone to bring it to me,
so I can't replace it until I get to where the club is. Another question
that occurred to us was whether he had to replace it with the same club. If
not I could imagine deciding that there was no further use for whatever long
iron was broken but that an extra wedge or a second driver might help in the
final holes. I can't imagine a player actually being able to deliberately
plan to exploit this to in effect get around the 14 club limit, since you
can't replace a club unless it was broken in the normal course of play.
--
Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 23:48:53
From: Simon
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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On Apr 9, 3:54 am, "warren montgomery" <wamontgom...@worldnet.att.net >
wrote:
> That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
> follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going to
> hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new shaft,
> but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury, either to his
> wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came free and
> bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a shot knowing the follow
> through was going to break the club. Did he ever practice something like
> that to know he had the nerve to go through with it? If Tiger had won, I
> would be nominating that one, not the shot into the 13th that set up the
> eagle, as the one that did it.
>
> --
> Warren Montgomery (wamontgom...@att.net)http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
A friend of mine hit exactly the same shot in a playoff for our club
championship a few years ago. He was about 100 yards from the green
and needed a birdie. He managed to make a par from there, but it
wasn't enough.
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Date: 08 Apr 2007 22:16:24
From: Pickmaster
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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I had head a true story a good while back of an amateur golfer hitting a
shot like that and the end of the broken shaft whirling around and sticking
in the guy's jugular vein, killing him
"warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:9sudnUoZwqJiN4TbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
> That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
> follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going
> to hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new
> shaft, but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury,
> either to his wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came
> free and bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a shot knowing the
> follow through was going to break the club. Did he ever practice
> something like that to know he had the nerve to go through with it? If
> Tiger had won, I would be nominating that one, not the shot into the 13th
> that set up the eagle, as the one that did it.
>
> --
> Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
>
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 03:44:29
From: Michael Simmons-Smith
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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Urban legend....
"Pickmaster" <hotshot@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:JdiSh.30689$B7.17646@bigfe9...
>I had head a true story a good while back of an amateur golfer hitting a
>shot like that and the end of the broken shaft whirling around and sticking
>in the guy's jugular vein, killing him
>
> "warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:9sudnUoZwqJiN4TbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
>> That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
>> follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going
>> to hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new
>> shaft, but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury,
>> either to his wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead
>> came free and bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a shot
>> knowing the follow through was going to break the club. Did he ever
>> practice something like that to know he had the nerve to go through with
>> it? If Tiger had won, I would be nominating that one, not the shot into
>> the 13th that set up the eagle, as the one that did it.
>>
>> --
>> Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
>> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
>>
>
>
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 18:21:30
From: Pickmaster
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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Not according to Peter Aliss---check out under "Fatalities"
http://books.google.com/books?id=Qcr4M_5xNe0C&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=club+shaft+killed&source=web&ots=izqEjf9Wws&sig=QrbFRoGfDpTVQ5sWfJTFMUdl0Vs#PPA97,M1
"Michael Simmons-Smith" <simmonssmith@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:xEiSh.15348$Um6.14561@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Urban legend....
>
> "Pickmaster" <hotshot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JdiSh.30689$B7.17646@bigfe9...
>>I had head a true story a good while back of an amateur golfer hitting a
>>shot like that and the end of the broken shaft whirling around and
>>sticking in the guy's jugular vein, killing him
>>
>> "warren montgomery" <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
>> news:9sudnUoZwqJiN4TbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
>>> follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's
>>> going to hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of
>>> a new shaft, but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of
>>> injury, either to his wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the
>>> clubhead came free and bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a
>>> shot knowing the follow through was going to break the club. Did he
>>> ever practice something like that to know he had the nerve to go through
>>> with it? If Tiger had won, I would be nominating that one, not the shot
>>> into the 13th that set up the eagle, as the one that did it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warren Montgomery (wamontgomery@att.net)
>>> http://home.att.net/~wamontgomery
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 03:14:12
From: Chris Bellomy
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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warren montgomery <wamontgomery@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
> That shot from behind the tree on 11 where Tiger busted his club on the
> follow through. I can't see how he can hit that shot, knowing he's going to
> hit the tree. Sure, he doesn't have to worry about the cost of a new shaft,
> but that shot had to carry a fairly signficant risk of injury, either to his
> wrists from the impact or anywhere else if the clubhead came free and
> bounced back at him. I can't imagine hitting a shot knowing the follow
> through was going to break the club. Did he ever practice something like
> that to know he had the nerve to go through with it? If Tiger had won, I
> would be nominating that one, not the shot into the 13th that set up the
> eagle, as the one that did it.
To us great unwashed, the idea of driving the shaft into a tree
trunk is scary indeed. But think of it as a pro might -- think of
how they get injured: when the clubhead sticks on them. This sends
all the energy they're imparting on the ball back up the shaft and
into their hands. That's what hurts them.
When you're intentionally taking the shaft of the club into the
tree trunk, you can rest fairly assured that the shaft is going to
take the brunt of the energy. People still get hurt sometimes when
they gouge themselves with the broken ends of the shafts, but when
you know that it's coming and your name is Tiger Woods... well,
that's always a bit different, isn't it?
--
Chris Bellomy
C-List Charter Member
http://clist.org/
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 00:12:10
From: Otto
Subject: Re: The shot nobody is talking about
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"Chris Bellomy" <puevf@tbbqfubj.arg.invalid > wrote in message
news:1T40evo5I20iN34@redshark.goodshow.net...
> To us great unwashed, the idea of driving the shaft into a tree
> trunk is scary indeed. But think of it as a pro might -- think of
> how they get injured: when the clubhead sticks on them. This sends
> all the energy they're imparting on the ball back up the shaft and
> into their hands. That's what hurts them
Like when you hit down on a tree root or a large rock that you never saw and
never expected.
> When you're intentionally taking the shaft of the club into the
> tree trunk, you can rest fairly assured that the shaft is going to
> take the brunt of the energy. People still get hurt sometimes when
> they gouge themselves with the broken ends of the shafts, but when
> you know that it's coming and your name is Tiger Woods... well,
> that's always a bit different, isn't it?
Tiger clearly knew the club was history and in fact he released the grip on
the follow through. He had no chance of injury.
Otto
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