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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:02:06
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: The Whippy
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I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
I'll try it out.
It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
thought.
I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
it stays right on plane.
I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
though you might have a little flip in your swing.
So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
still there next time I go.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:04:23
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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Dene wrote:
> annika1980 wrote:
>
> > I got skills.
>
> And pills!
>
Better golf thru Chemistry!
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 17:02:15
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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annika1980 wrote:
> I got skills.
And pills!
-Greg
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:08:39
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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Dene wrote:
> > Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
> > whiff."
>
> Whiff....never.
> Woof....always. :>
>
Actually, I have whiffed a few in my day, but never off the tee.
My whiffs usually come either when I'm hitting under a tree and a limb
snags my club, or when I'm trying some stupid shot from a hazard and
the club bounces off a rock and goes over the ball.
I came close to whiffing a drive in a tournament recently when I teed
the ball up a little too close to an overhanging tree limb. The limb
grabbed my club, but fortunately I was able to stop my swing, ala
Tiger. I got skills.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 08:35:05
From: Dene
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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annika1980 wrote:
> John van der Pflum wrote:
> >
> > Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
> > --
>
> I left the trunk open in case I needed another ball.
> Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
> whiff."
Whiff....never.
Woof....always. : >
-Greg
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:07:05
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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John van der Pflum wrote:
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> Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
> --
I left the trunk open in case I needed another ball.
Besides, "Gambling is illegal at Pungent Municipal, sir, and I never
whiff."
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:18:53
From: annika1980
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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George Hibbard wrote:
>>
> It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
> be passive.
>
> It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
>
> AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
> differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
> your timing will have been educated/changed.
>
> Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
> for the purposes I list.
I agree with all that. I have a Whippy driver with a tiny (by today's
standards) head, probably around 200cc. If I get my swing to where I
can hit the Whippy well, hitting a ball with my normal driver is cake.
One day, I went by the course to eat lunch (it's only 5 min. from
downtown) and as I was leaving I noticed The Oldest Member was out
there in his usual spot on the range. He had a small gallery of two
that he was preaching to that day. I popped my trunk, got out my
Whippy Tempomaster, a tee and one ball. Without saying anything to
anybody I went over next to him, teed up the ball, took a few power
waggles (for effect) and laced a nice straight high one right down the
middle of the range. As I walked back to the car I turned and asked,
"Any Questions?"
For once in his life, The Oldest Member was speechless.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 09:03:51
From: John van der Pflum
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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On 19 Nov 2006 19:18:53 -0800, "annika1980" <annika1980@aol.com >
wrote:
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>George Hibbard wrote:
>>>
>> It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
>> be passive.
>>
>> It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
>>
>> AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
>> differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
>> your timing will have been educated/changed.
>>
>> Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
>> for the purposes I list.
>
>I agree with all that. I have a Whippy driver with a tiny (by today's
>standards) head, probably around 200cc. If I get my swing to where I
>can hit the Whippy well, hitting a ball with my normal driver is cake.
>
>One day, I went by the course to eat lunch (it's only 5 min. from
>downtown) and as I was leaving I noticed The Oldest Member was out
>there in his usual spot on the range. He had a small gallery of two
>that he was preaching to that day. I popped my trunk, got out my
>Whippy Tempomaster, a tee and one ball. Without saying anything to
>anybody I went over next to him, teed up the ball, took a few power
>waggles (for effect) and laced a nice straight high one right down the
>middle of the range. As I walked back to the car I turned and asked,
>"Any Questions?"
>For once in his life, The Oldest Member was speechless.
Good thing you didn't whiff. :-)
--
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 11:55:49
From: Birdie Bill
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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I'm not saying the Whippy is for everyone. It just happens
to fit pretty well with the swing I'm being taught, which
involves maintaining a lot of lag all the way to impact.
It does seem to amplify problems and give feedback.
On the other hand, If you just used the Whippy alone,
without any instruction, you could very well end up with
a different kind of swing. So, I don't think just using the
Whippy will automatically teach you a "correct" swing.
That's probably true of any swing aid.
And, I'm perfectly willing to accept that a "hitter" swing
is a valid way for someone to play golf, if they want to
go that way.
On Nov 19, 12:10 pm, "dhw" <dhwalk...@comcast.net > wrote:
> So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
> with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
> club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
> developing a much handsier swing?
>
>
>
> Birdie Bill wrote:
> > I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
> > to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
> > aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
> > I'll try it out.
>
> > It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
> > thought.
> > I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
> > my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
> > but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
> > with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
> > clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
> > can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
> > from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
> > it stays right on plane.
>
> > I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
> > normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
> > the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
>
> > One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
> > with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
> > though you might have a little flip in your swing.
> > So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
> > prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
> > problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
>
> > All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
> > still there next time I go.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:10:58
From: dhw
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
developing a much handsier swing?
Birdie Bill wrote:
> I went to my practice session at Goftec yesterday, and happened
> to notice that sitting over in the corner with all the other training
> aids and gadgets was a Whippy 5I. So, I thought, what the heck,
> I'll try it out.
>
> It was easier to hit than I expected. The shaft was stiffer than I
> thought.
> I thought that I might have a problem with my backswing, because
> my instructor has me cock and set my wrists pretty early,
> but the Whippy seemed OK with that, and behaved better than
> with my old backswing which tends to be flat and rolls the
> clubface open. I still get some of those old backswings, so I
> can compare. With the old backswing, the shaft visibly sags
> from the weight of the clubhead, while with the new backswing
> it stays right on plane.
>
> I hit some solid shots with it that went straight and about my
> normal distance (which ain't all that great) according to
> the launch monitor. But I also hit plenty of not-so-good shots.
>
> One thing I did confirm is that it is possible to time the swing
> with the Whippy so that you can hit the ball straight even
> though you might have a little flip in your swing.
> So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really
> prove you have a great swing. My swing still has a few
> problems, and I was able to hit some straight shots.
>
> All in all, though, I liked it and will use it again if it is
> still there next time I go.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 16:58:55
From: George Hibbard
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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"dhw" <dhwalker1@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:1163959858.788177.212510@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> So what is the advantage of practicing with a Whippy? I have a 3-wood
> with a very whippy shaft & I find I have to swing differently with this
> club versus my irons that feel a lot stiffer. Don't you just end up
> developing a much handsier swing?
>
It makes you more aware of the clubhead, furnishing the previously "unaware"
person more feedback. The skin of our hands provides an enormous amount of
information.
It cannot be swung effectively with an early thrust of the wrists: they must
be passive.
It forces patience in the sequencing of motion.
AFTER using the whippy effectively, you will want to use your stiffer clubs
differently and you'll discover that you get a lot more out of them because
your timing will have been educated/changed.
Of course we need stiffer shafts for playing golf: but the whippy is great
for the purposes I list.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 04:19:13
From: Carbon
Subject: Re: The Whippy
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:02:06 -0800, Birdie Bill wrote:
> So hitting the ball straight with a Whippy doesn't really prove you have
> a great swing.
I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
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