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Date: 16 Oct 2006 11:06:05
From: CKF
Subject: Taper tip questions
Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install? I bought some brand
new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put them
together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it. The shafts are
graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it. Is
there any additional prepping that is normally done? Also, can these be
trimmed to adjust flex? If so, how much should be taken off to make a
regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?

Thanks,

Chris






 
Date: 16 Oct 2006 13:12:11
From: Kenny Stultz
Subject: Re: Taper tip questions
In article <xIJYg.8436$6D3.4972@trnddc01 >, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com says...
>
>Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install? I bought some brand
>new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put them
>together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it. The shafts are
>graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it. Is
>there any additional prepping that is normally done? Also, can these be
>trimmed to adjust flex? If so, how much should be taken off to make a
>regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Chris
>
>

Chris,

I would only add one thing to Mike's response. You cone the heads if you are
going to be installing graphite shafts. That will relieve a potential stress
concentration where the shaft enters the hosel. I also like to lightly sand
the ibside of the hosel and then wipe it with acetone to make sure I have a
clean surface.

Kenny

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Date: 17 Oct 2006 00:23:33
From: CKF
Subject: Re: Taper tip questions

"Kenny Stultz" <stultz@wai.com > wrote in message
news:4phepbFisorkU1@individual.net...
> In article <xIJYg.8436$6D3.4972@trnddc01>, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com
> says...
>>
>>Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install? I bought some brand
>>new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put
>>them
>>together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it. The shafts are
>>graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it. Is
>>there any additional prepping that is normally done? Also, can these be
>>trimmed to adjust flex? If so, how much should be taken off to make a
>>regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>
> Chris,
>
> I would only add one thing to Mike's response. You cone the heads if you
> are
> going to be installing graphite shafts. That will relieve a potential
> stress
> concentration where the shaft enters the hosel. I also like to lightly
> sand
> the ibside of the hosel and then wipe it with acetone to make sure I have
> a
> clean surface.

What does that mean (cone the heads)? Makes me think of Dan Akroyd.

Chris




   
Date: 17 Oct 2006 09:46:26
From: Kenny Stultz
Subject: Re: Taper tip questions
In article <9oVYg.8986$6D3.2462@trnddc01 >, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com says...
>
>
>"Kenny Stultz" <stultz@wai.com> wrote in message
>news:4phepbFisorkU1@individual.net...
>> In article <xIJYg.8436$6D3.4972@trnddc01>, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com
>> says...
>>>
>>>Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install? I bought some brand
>>>new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put
>>>them
>>>together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it. The shafts are
>>>graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it. Is
>>>there any additional prepping that is normally done? Also, can these be
>>>trimmed to adjust flex? If so, how much should be taken off to make a
>>>regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> I would only add one thing to Mike's response. You cone the heads if you
>> are
>> going to be installing graphite shafts. That will relieve a potential
>> stress
>> concentration where the shaft enters the hosel. I also like to lightly
>> sand
>> the ibside of the hosel and then wipe it with acetone to make sure I have
>> a
>> clean surface.
>
>What does that mean (cone the heads)? Makes me think of Dan Akroyd.
>
>Chris
>
>

It means that you put a bevel on the top edge of the hosel. You can see a
picture of a hosel being coned at http://www.truetemper.com/golf/assembly3.asp

Kenny

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Date: 17 Oct 2006 11:17:21
From: Peter Strauss
Subject: Re: Taper tip questions
On 17 Oct 2006 09:46:26 GMT, kstultz@comcast.net (Kenny Stultz) wrote:

> In article <9oVYg.8986$6D3.2462@trnddc01>, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >"Kenny Stultz" <stultz@wai.com> wrote in message
> >news:4phepbFisorkU1@individual.net...
> >> In article <xIJYg.8436$6D3.4972@trnddc01>, fairchildchris@hotrmail.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>>Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install? I bought some brand
> >>>new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put
> >>>them
> >>>together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it. The shafts are
> >>>graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it. Is
> >>>there any additional prepping that is normally done? Also, can these be
> >>>trimmed to adjust flex? If so, how much should be taken off to make a
> >>>regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>Chris
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Chris,
> >>
> >> I would only add one thing to Mike's response. You cone the heads if you
> >> are
> >> going to be installing graphite shafts. That will relieve a potential
> >> stress
> >> concentration where the shaft enters the hosel. I also like to lightly
> >> sand
> >> the ibside of the hosel and then wipe it with acetone to make sure I have
> >> a
> >> clean surface.
> >
> >What does that mean (cone the heads)? Makes me think of Dan Akroyd.
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
>
> It means that you put a bevel on the top edge of the hosel. You can see a
> picture of a hosel being coned at http://www.truetemper.com/golf/assembly3.asp
>

Pictures are kind of small.

Here's what coning does, in cutaway view:

Unconed hosel:
__ __


 
Date: 16 Oct 2006 06:52:28
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper tip questions
CKF wrote:
> Do taper tip shafts generally come ready-to-install?

Not sure what you mean, other than whether you might have to prep the
tip or not. Usually they need to be prepped (removing the finish on
graphite or roughing up the steel on a steel shaft).

> I bought some brand
> new shafts and heads and thought I might just get some adhesive and put them
> together myself rather than pay the local guy to do it.

Do you know that the heads have tapered hosels?

> The shafts are
> graphite, and the last inch of the shaft has an unpainted look to it.

That doesn't necessarily mean they're tapered, but sometimes graphite
comes with the paint removed on the tip. Sounds to me like they have
been tip-prepped already, at least to some extent.

> Is
> there any additional prepping that is normally done?

If the paint is removed, no. I'd make sure, though, that they're
prepped far enough up the shaft that you don't have any part with paint
in the hosel, plus I'd prep lightly under where the ferrule will sit
(assuming you'll need one).

> Also, can these be
> trimmed to adjust flex?

If they're taper-tip shafts, absolutely not. As soon as you trim them
you'll find you can't insert them into a tapered hosel.

> If so, how much should be taken off to make a
> regular flex shaft closer to a firm flex?

If they are parallel shafts, and you have parallel hosels, you'd want to
consult the trim tables for your model shaft to get an idea, but
probably an inch to an inch and a half, something like that. But if
they're taper-tip, don't do it.


Mike


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