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Date: 18 Mar 2007 17:32:27
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Subject: Taper Tip
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How would you drill a raw iron head to a .355(taper0tip) bore? I've
seen the 3-step drill bits in Golfsmith and Golfworks. Any help would
be great.
Thanks,
Big Mack
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Date: 22 Mar 2007 09:29:28
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 18, 7:32 pm, rvi...@gmail.com wrote:
> How would you drill a raw iron head to a .355(taper0tip) bore? I've
> seen the 3-step drill bits in Golfsmith and Golfworks. Any help would
> be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Big Mack
This thread has got me thinking about making a set of taper tip
ironsd. I'll have to make sure I get a good set of shafts, and check
them! ...but all in all seems to me to be the way to go for a set of
premium irons.
If I had a raw head and wanted it drilled, I'd take it to a metal
shop. They should have the right equipment to do it right. I'd never
try it myself, especially freehand!!
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 14:24:52
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 20, 9:35 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com > wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <m...@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
>
> news:56bjcjF28b5vfU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > Dave Lee wrote:
> > > "Mike Dalecki" <m...@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> > >news:56bhukF28jatcU1@mid.individual.net...
> > >> Dave Lee wrote:
> > >>> "Mike Dalecki" <m...@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
> > >>>> S.D. wrote:
> > >>>>> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>
> > >>>>>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> > >>>>>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> > >>>>>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
> > >>>>> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips;
> mostly
> > > to
> > >>>>> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can
> feel
> > >>>>> the difference though.
> > >>>> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was
> > > in
> > >>>> there. They're not inherently better.
>
> > >>>> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> > >>>> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> > >>>> he's making that up.
>
> > >>>> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>
> > >>>> Mike
>
> > >>> snip
>
> > >>> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper
> > > tip
> > >>> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference
> > > that I
> > >>> found quickly is
>
> > >>>http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
>
> > >>> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> > >>> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
>
> > >>> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
>
> > >> I'm not too impressed w/ the article, Dave. "Constant weight" means
> > >> what? That a 37" blank weighs the same as a 41" blank? I have a very
> > >> hard time believing that's the case. What I've read in the past is
> that
> > >> taper tip is simply for the convenience of manufacture. If you think
> > >> about it, there's no reason you couldn't "constant weight" parallel tip
> > >> shafts, so why bother with tapers?
>
> > > Mike, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But this constant weight/taper
> thing
> > > is out there.
>
> > >http://www.calgolftech.com/thesaurus/shafts_taper.html
>
> > > is an interesting little snip that comes down on the side of parallel
> > > shafts. Personally I wish my skills were good enough to care (they are
> not).
>
> > > As I understand the TT DG taper shafts are true constant weight while TT
> DG
> > > parallel shafts are not (all blanks weigh the same). And then there is
> the
> > > Black Gold taper which is not constant weight. Just never seen a
> parallel
> > > iron shaft that doesn't end up lighter the shorter the shaft.
>
> > > dave
>
> > If you had constant weight shafts how would you swingweight match normal
> > heads at normal lengths?
>
> snip
>
> It should not be that hard as the total weight of the shaft isn't really
> changing all that much with parallel shafts. Messing around with a SW
> calculator showed that it affects things by around 1 SW point. Shouldn't be
> that hard to find 2 grams somewhere in the head/hosel.
>
> dave- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Except that there is an ideal progression of headweights as well. You
would probably be better off to weight the heads and adujust them to
match a progression, weight sort the shafts you want (better shafts
are supposed to be weight sorted) and cut them appropriately with
parallels rather than try to get the shafts to the same weight. They
just aren't made for that.
You can't really beat the idea of taper tips if you want things to
"match".
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 19:24:11
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 20, 8:18 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com > wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <m...@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
>
> news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > S.D. wrote:
> > > On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>
> > >> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> > >> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> > >> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
>
> > > The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
> > > match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
> > > the difference though.
>
> > Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was in
> > there. They're not inherently better.
>
> > Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> > that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> > he's making that up.
>
> > "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>
> > Mike
>
> snip
>
> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper tip
> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference that I
> found quickly is
>
> http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
>
> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
>
> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
FWIW, the horses mouth says...
http://www.truetemper.com/golf/faq.asp
Apparently the idea is that better golfers have better feel with the
irons when the shafts have constant weight. Some clubmakers want to
manipulate butt frequency by differential trimming of parallel shafts,
which is OK I guess, but butt freq. is *A* shaft property. Some shafts
have soft butts and stiff tips, and others have stiff butts and soft
tips and yet others have stiff butts and stiff tips...and then there's
the effect of kickpoint, which, IMHO is a fairly meaningful parameter
because of its effect on ballflight (high kickpoint = low ballflight,
mid kickpoint = higher ballflight all else being equal to some
degree).
Nice thing about good taper tip shafts is they are all matched to the
same parameters. A bad thing you can get these days in parallels is
say a 4I vs a 5I shaft that are supposed to be say 3/8" different in
length, the 4I 3/8" longer than the 5I, but the "clubmaker" wants to
match the butt freq. to some prescribed progression at all costs, and
it doesn't at 3/8" length difference for a given club, so he either
violates the 3/8" rule for one of the clubs or differentially butt
trims to get the freq to match, but these sorts of compromises can
affect the kickpoint and/or the tip stiffness (one tip is less
circumcized than the "proper" progression...that you see in the other
irons...requires. The less that is cut from the tip, the less stiff it
is.). Taper tips can get around all this nonsense...but it can cost
you! Stuff like this is why I make my own clubs. No hidden
compromises...I know what I have, for whatever that is worth...and
it's fun and I "save money"....to buy more components with which to
fill the already overloaded garage!
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 18:56:42
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 20, 8:18 pm, "Dave Lee" <DaveLe...@ix.netcom.RemovE.com > wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <m...@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
>
> news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > S.D. wrote:
> > > On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>
> > >> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> > >> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> > >> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
>
> > > The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
> > > match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
> > > the difference though.
>
> > Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was in
> > there. They're not inherently better.
>
> > Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> > that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> > he's making that up.
>
> > "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>
> > Mike
>
> snip
>
> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper tip
> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference that I
> found quickly is
>
> http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
>
> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
>
> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
A pretty well known, long standing preference preference. The last
high end OEM irons I ever bought were Mizuno MP 29's, and they have
taper tips.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 13:43:05
From: The_Professor
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 20, 11:56 am, "S.D." <s...@twomuchspam.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 18 2007 20:07:31 -0500, Mike Dalecki wrote:
> > The only real reason for using taper tip
> > shafts and heads is that OEMs get a mechanical bond when they force the
> > shaft into the clubhead (and they use epoxy too).
>
> What I don't quit understand is why? have specially designed tips just
> for bonding? Makes no sense, and seems as though they'd be paying more
> per shaft. There has to be more to his issue...
> --
> Hit'em long and straight:)
> SDig
Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 17:20:52
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
the difference though.
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:03:22
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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S.D. wrote:
> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>
>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
>
> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
> the difference though.
Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was in
there. They're not inherently better.
Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
he's making that up.
"Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
Mike
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 01:18:16
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
> S.D. wrote:
> > On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
> >
> >> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> >> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> >> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
> >
> > The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
> > match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
> > the difference though.
>
> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was in
> there. They're not inherently better.
>
> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> he's making that up.
>
> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>
> Mike
>
snip
I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper tip
shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference that I
found quickly is
http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 21:00:52
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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Dave Lee wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
>> S.D. wrote:
>>> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
>>>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
>>>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
>>> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly to
>>> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
>>> the difference though.
>> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was in
>> there. They're not inherently better.
>>
>> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
>> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
>> he's making that up.
>>
>> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> snip
>
> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper tip
> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference that I
> found quickly is
>
> http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
>
> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
>
> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
>
>
I'm not too impressed w/ the article, Dave. "Constant weight" means
what? That a 37" blank weighs the same as a 41" blank? I have a very
hard time believing that's the case. What I've read in the past is that
taper tip is simply for the convenience of manufacture. If you think
about it, there's no reason you couldn't "constant weight" parallel tip
shafts, so why bother with tapers?
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 02:20:38
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:56bhukF28jatcU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dave Lee wrote:
> > "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> > news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> S.D. wrote:
> >>> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> >>>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> >>>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
> >>> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly
to
> >>> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
> >>> the difference though.
> >> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was
in
> >> there. They're not inherently better.
> >>
> >> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> >> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> >> he's making that up.
> >>
> >> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> > snip
> >
> > I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper
tip
> > shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference
that I
> > found quickly is
> >
> > http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
> >
> > But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> > shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
> >
> > dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
> >
> >
>
> I'm not too impressed w/ the article, Dave. "Constant weight" means
> what? That a 37" blank weighs the same as a 41" blank? I have a very
> hard time believing that's the case. What I've read in the past is that
> taper tip is simply for the convenience of manufacture. If you think
> about it, there's no reason you couldn't "constant weight" parallel tip
> shafts, so why bother with tapers?
>
Mike, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But this constant weight/taper thing
is out there.
http://www.calgolftech.com/thesaurus/shafts_taper.html
is an interesting little snip that comes down on the side of parallel
shafts. Personally I wish my skills were good enough to care (they are not).
As I understand the TT DG taper shafts are true constant weight while TT DG
parallel shafts are not (all blanks weigh the same). And then there is the
Black Gold taper which is not constant weight. Just never seen a parallel
iron shaft that doesn't end up lighter the shorter the shaft.
dave
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 20:25:44
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On Wed, 21 2007 02:20:38 GMT, Dave Lee wrote:
> But this constant weight/taper thing
> is out there.
Good article, thanks.
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 21:25:24
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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Dave Lee wrote:
> "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> news:56bhukF28jatcU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Dave Lee wrote:
>>> "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
>>> news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> S.D. wrote:
>>>>> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
>>>>>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
>>>>>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
>>>>> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips; mostly
> to
>>>>> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can feel
>>>>> the difference though.
>>>> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was
> in
>>>> there. They're not inherently better.
>>>>
>>>> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
>>>> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
>>>> he's making that up.
>>>>
>>>> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper
> tip
>>> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference
> that I
>>> found quickly is
>>>
>>> http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
>>>
>>> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
>>> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
>>>
>>> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not too impressed w/ the article, Dave. "Constant weight" means
>> what? That a 37" blank weighs the same as a 41" blank? I have a very
>> hard time believing that's the case. What I've read in the past is that
>> taper tip is simply for the convenience of manufacture. If you think
>> about it, there's no reason you couldn't "constant weight" parallel tip
>> shafts, so why bother with tapers?
>>
>
> Mike, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But this constant weight/taper thing
> is out there.
>
> http://www.calgolftech.com/thesaurus/shafts_taper.html
>
> is an interesting little snip that comes down on the side of parallel
> shafts. Personally I wish my skills were good enough to care (they are not).
>
> As I understand the TT DG taper shafts are true constant weight while TT DG
> parallel shafts are not (all blanks weigh the same). And then there is the
> Black Gold taper which is not constant weight. Just never seen a parallel
> iron shaft that doesn't end up lighter the shorter the shaft.
>
> dave
>
>
If you had constant weight shafts how would you swingweight match normal
heads at normal lengths?
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 21 Mar 2007 02:35:06
From: Dave Lee
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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"Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com > wrote in message
news:56bjcjF28b5vfU1@mid.individual.net...
> Dave Lee wrote:
> > "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> > news:56bhukF28jatcU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> Dave Lee wrote:
> >>> "Mike Dalecki" <mike@removeclubdoctor.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:56beiqF28mk3oU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> S.D. wrote:
> >>>>> On 20 2007 13:43:05 -0700, The_Professor wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Better players have preferred taper tips, especially in the irons.
> >>>>>> It's another one of those unquantifiable things, but in any event,
> >>>>>> most high end irons have taper tips, at least historically.
> >>>>> The only shafts I've had installed in my clubs are taper tips;
mostly
> > to
> >>>>> match and insure shafts fit the hosel properly. Can't say I can
feel
> >>>>> the difference though.
> >>>> Two things: First, you're getting taper tips because that's what was
> > in
> >>>> there. They're not inherently better.
> >>>>
> >>>> Second, you might ask "The Professor" for some citation or reference
> >>>> that better players have preferred taper tips. I'll bet you a dollar
> >>>> he's making that up.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Better players have preferred taper tips..." Yeah, sure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>> snip
> >>>
> >>> I have read more than once that PGA tour players tend to prefer taper
> > tip
> >>> shafts because 'they are (or can be) constant weight'. The reference
> > that I
> >>> found quickly is
> >>>
> >>> http://www.golftodaymagazine.com/0309sep/golfeqpt.htm
> >>>
> >>> But it is somewhat dated. It is also interesting to note that parallel
> >>> shafts have an off-setting advantage WRT inventory costs.
> >>>
> >>> dave - can I have the dolloar :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I'm not too impressed w/ the article, Dave. "Constant weight" means
> >> what? That a 37" blank weighs the same as a 41" blank? I have a very
> >> hard time believing that's the case. What I've read in the past is
that
> >> taper tip is simply for the convenience of manufacture. If you think
> >> about it, there's no reason you couldn't "constant weight" parallel tip
> >> shafts, so why bother with tapers?
> >>
> >
> > Mike, I don't have a dog in this hunt. But this constant weight/taper
thing
> > is out there.
> >
> > http://www.calgolftech.com/thesaurus/shafts_taper.html
> >
> > is an interesting little snip that comes down on the side of parallel
> > shafts. Personally I wish my skills were good enough to care (they are
not).
> >
> > As I understand the TT DG taper shafts are true constant weight while TT
DG
> > parallel shafts are not (all blanks weigh the same). And then there is
the
> > Black Gold taper which is not constant weight. Just never seen a
parallel
> > iron shaft that doesn't end up lighter the shorter the shaft.
> >
> > dave
> >
> >
>
> If you had constant weight shafts how would you swingweight match normal
> heads at normal lengths?
>
>
snip
It should not be that hard as the total weight of the shaft isn't really
changing all that much with parallel shafts. Messing around with a SW
calculator showed that it affects things by around 1 SW point. Shouldn't be
that hard to find 2 grams somewhere in the head/hosel.
dave
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 08:10:25
From: sfb
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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Find a local club maker to do the deed. You might be money ahead as you need
a drill press and jig to hold the club head in addition to the bits to say
nothing of replacing the clubs after you miss.
<rvinum@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1174264347.127644.238620@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> How would you drill a raw iron head to a .355(taper0tip) bore? I've
> seen the 3-step drill bits in Golfsmith and Golfworks. Any help would
> be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Big Mack
>
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Date: 18 Mar 2007 20:07:31
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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rvinum@gmail.com wrote:
> How would you drill a raw iron head to a .355(taper0tip) bore? I've
> seen the 3-step drill bits in Golfsmith and Golfworks. Any help would
> be great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Big Mack
>
You have to do it with the different drills, which step down the bore.
You have to buy the set which has the drills and use the instructions in
one of the books (like the Maltby book).
I've never done this--I see no value at all in taper tip hosels for a
person making their own clubs. The only real reason for using taper tip
shafts and heads is that OEMs get a mechanical bond when they force the
shaft into the clubhead (and they use epoxy too).
The problem with taper tip shafts is that there's no way to adjust them
if (and likely when) their flex is off. You're stuck with what you've
got, because you can't, obviously, tip-trim the shaft.
If it were me, and I had a raw clubhead with no hosel drilled (where do
you get one of those? And why?), I'd drill it parallel, not tapered.
That allows you to use tons of different shafts with parallel tip
sections, not the relatively few that are made for tapered hosels.
Either way, make sure you get one of those club drilling jigs sold by
the major clubmaking houses. You need this to be dead straight down the
hosel, or either or both the lie angle and loft will be off.
Mike
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Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 09:56:31
From: S.D.
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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On Sun, 18 2007 20:07:31 -0500, Mike Dalecki wrote:
> The only real reason for using taper tip
> shafts and heads is that OEMs get a mechanical bond when they force the
> shaft into the clubhead (and they use epoxy too).
What I don't quit understand is why? have specially designed tips just
for bonding? Makes no sense, and seems as though they'd be paying more
per shaft. There has to be more to his issue...
--
Hit'em long and straight:)
SDig
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Date: 20 Mar 2007 14:14:54
From: Mike Dalecki
Subject: Re: Taper Tip
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S.D. wrote:
> On Sun, 18 2007 20:07:31 -0500, Mike Dalecki wrote:
>
>> The only real reason for using taper tip
>> shafts and heads is that OEMs get a mechanical bond when they force the
>> shaft into the clubhead (and they use epoxy too).
>
> What I don't quit understand is why? have specially designed tips just
> for bonding? Makes no sense, and seems as though they'd be paying more
> per shaft. There has to be more to his issue...
In re-reading what I wrote, I realized I left something out that would
have made it clearer. By jamming the shaft in the head, the
manufacturer doesn't have to worry about the shaft pulling out or
shifting position during epoxy cure. So they put epoxy in the joint to
hold it, and use the taper-tip jamming approach to hold the shaft in place.
Mike
--
Mike Dalecki GCA Accredited Clubmaker http://clubdoctor.com
RSG-Wisconsin 2007: June 22-24----Lawsonia!
Website: http://clubdoctor.com/rsgwis2007
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